Guest guest Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Hi all, I was reading Thom Hartmann's COMPLETE GUIDE TO ADHD. He refers to to ADHDers as Hunters. He doesn't see ADHD as a disorder that needs to be medicated. He feels that ADHD has its own gifts. He even pointed out that adults with ADHD are 300 percent more likely to start or own their own companies than are "normal" people. That was according to 1994 article in NEWSWEEK. Here is something how ADHD is viewed in India........page 78 to 79 Thom Hartman asked "Are you familiar with the personality type where people seem to crave stimulation but have a hard time staying with one thing? They hop from career to career, and sometimes even from relationship to relationship, and never seem to settle down?" "Ah we know this type well" one of the men said, the other 2 men nodding in agreement. "What do you call it?" Thom asked "Very holy," he said, "These are old souls, near the end of their karmic cycle." Again the other two nodded agreement, perhapsa bit more vigorously in response to my startled look(Thom) "Yes," the physican said, taking his turn in the conversation. "In our religion, we believe that the purpose if reincarnation is to eventually free oneself from worldly entanglement and desire. In each lifetime we experience certain lessons, until finally we are free of this earth and can merge into the oneness of what you would call God. When a soul is very close to the end of those thousands of incarnations, he must take a few lifetimes and do many, many things, to clean up the little threads left over from his previous lifetimes. "This is a man very close to becoming enlightened," the first businessman added. "We have great respect for such individuals, although their lives may be difficult." The other businessman raised a finger and interjected; "But it is the difficulties of such lives that purify the soul." the others nodded in agreement. "In America we consider this a psychiatric disorder" Thom said. All three looked startled, then laughed. "In America, you consider our most holy men, our yogis and swamis, to be crazy people too," said the physician with sadness in his voice. "So it is with different cultures. We live in different worlds." I am diagnosed inattentive type ADHD. I guess that I am far better off living in India than here in USA. Some people even think that I look Indian. heheheeheheh Here is something from my Vedic report In your mind you think of spiritual life as real and true and so you know that material life is not the aim of life. This comes gradually as you get older, as material expectations are one by one ruled out as unfulfilling. Therefore, gradually through life, you spend more of your time and energy towards serving good causes. Also, in an attempt to sort things out in this transition, you become restless, and sometimes try to spend for pleasure, only to feel increased frustration. Overall, you should do well because of your sincere approach to life. Areas to try to prevent disease troubles would include the feet, eyes and private parts. Ketu is in 12. Yep...but I wouldn't talk to psychiatrists about that stuff. In Vedic Astrology, I feel that Ketu,Rahu, and 12th could be related to ADHD........My interest in Vedic Astrology has greatly increased,and I am voraciously reading Vedic Astrology material and looking at Vedic Astrology charts. I have also considered using the whole house method(Vedic Astrology house system) in Western Astrology. In Western Astrology, the outer planets as well as Chiron "Disorders" might actually be gifts in other cultures. Therefore, I don't feel a person should be forced to fix which is viewed as not being broken in other cultures. This is what I will keep in mind when I have children. I know that I will have to deal with teachers and educational psychologists who tell me "You're kid has ADHD,and he/she needs medication." I am romantically interested in a woman that is also Dyslexic and ADHD like me, and she's really against medicating children with ADHD. She has been a daycare/preschool teacher that worked with special needs children. In her Vedic chart, she has Moon conj Ketu in Pisces in 5th. That seems very fitting for a person that works with special needs children. It could reflect her own Dyslexia and ADHD. She has Venus conj Ketu and 12th house lord(Jupiter)in her Navamsha chart(9th harmonic chart used for marriage and finetuning),and that can indicate that her partners could have been involved with special needs. I definitely fit that including my history of special ed, Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,and ADHD. I have 12th house lord(Moon) in my Vedic chart,and that could indicate my partner could have Dyslexia,ADHD,and special needs. My 12th house lord(Moon) conjunct 4th house lord(Mars) could indicate my mother with Dyslexic and ADHD traits. My 12th house lord conjunct my 9th house lord(Mars) can indicate my father that had Dyslexic and ADHD traits. Both my parents had substance abuse problems and spent time in jail. I have 12th house lord in 5th in my Navamsha chart,and that could indicate I could have children with special needs. I have Moon conj Ketu in 4th house in Navamsha chart,and this could indicate my mother who has ADHD personality traits. Of course, it can indicate my own ADHD traits. Of course, my Ketu in Cancer in 12th could indicate my ADHD,Dyslexia,Dyspraxia stuff too. My mother has Ketu in 1st and Sun in 12th in her Vedic chart. Interestingly her Ketu is conjunct Jupiter and Jupiter,and that can indicate her children can have special special problems in communications,speech,and learning. That was definitely me. Jupiter is the indicator of Children in Vedic Astrology. The thing is that Special Needs,ADHD,high sensitivity,and spirituality can actually be one in the same It just really depends on the culture. Also depends on how others view you. To me, spirituality is real. Nobody will ever convince me otherwise. Psychiatrists definitely won't. I wish that everybody can embrace their spirituality without worrying about being labeled "psychotic" I wish that all ADHDers can be viewed in a much positive light all over the world and not just in India. Raymond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 vedic astrology, "astynaz" <astynaz> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I was reading Thom Hartmann's COMPLETE GUIDE TO ADHD. He refers to to > ADHDers as Hunters. He doesn't see ADHD as a disorder that needs to > be medicated. He feels that ADHD has its own gifts. He even pointed > out that adults with ADHD are 300 percent more likely to start or own > their own companies than are "normal" people. That was according to > 1994 article in NEWSWEEK. > > > > Here is something how ADHD is viewed in India........page 78 to 79 > > > Thom Hartman asked "Are you familiar with the personality type where > people seem to crave stimulation but have a hard time staying with > one thing? They hop from career to career, and sometimes even from > relationship to relationship, and never seem to settle down?" > > "Ah we know this type well" one of the men said, the other 2 men > nodding in agreement. > > "What do you call it?" Thom asked > > "Very holy," he said, "These are old souls, near the end of their > karmic cycle." Again the other two nodded agreement, perhapsa bit > more vigorously in response to my startled look(Thom) > > "Yes," the physican said, taking his turn in the conversation. "In > our religion, we believe that the purpose if reincarnation is to > eventually free oneself from worldly entanglement and desire. In each > lifetime we experience certain lessons, until finally we are free of > this earth and can merge into the oneness of what you would call God. > When a soul is very close to the end of those thousands of > incarnations, he must take a few lifetimes and do many, many things, > to clean up the little threads left over from his previous lifetimes. > > "This is a man very close to becoming enlightened," the first > businessman added. "We have great respect for such individuals, > although their lives may be difficult." > > The other businessman raised a finger and interjected; "But it is the > difficulties of such lives that purify the soul." the others nodded > in agreement. > > "In America we consider this a psychiatric disorder" Thom said. All > three looked startled, then laughed. > > "In America, you consider our most holy men, our yogis and swamis, to > be crazy people too," said the physician with sadness in his > voice. "So it is with different cultures. We live in different > worlds." > > > > > I am diagnosed inattentive type ADHD. I guess that I am far better > off living in India than here in USA. Some people even think that I > look Indian. heheheeheheh > > > Here is something from my Vedic report > In your mind you think of spiritual life as real and true and so you > know that material life is not the aim of life. This comes gradually > as you get older, as material expectations are one by one ruled out > as unfulfilling. Therefore, gradually through life, you spend more of > your time and energy towards serving good causes. Also, in an attempt > to sort things out in this transition, you become restless, and > sometimes try to spend for pleasure, only to feel increased > frustration. Overall, you should do well because of your sincere > approach to life. Areas to try to prevent disease troubles would > include the feet, eyes and private parts. Ketu is in 12. > > Yep...but I wouldn't talk to psychiatrists about that stuff. > > In Vedic Astrology, I feel that Ketu,Rahu, and 12th could be related > to ADHD........My interest in Vedic Astrology has greatly > increased,and I am voraciously reading Vedic Astrology material and > looking at Vedic Astrology charts. I have also considered using the > whole house method(Vedic Astrology house system) in Western Astrology. > > In Western Astrology, the outer planets as well as Chiron > > > > "Disorders" might actually be gifts in other cultures. Therefore, I > don't feel a person should be forced to fix which is viewed as not > being broken in other cultures. This is what I will keep in mind when > I have children. I know that I will have to deal with teachers and > educational psychologists who tell me "You're kid has ADHD,and he/she > needs medication." I am romantically interested in a woman that is > also Dyslexic and ADHD like me, and she's really against medicating > children with ADHD. She has been a daycare/preschool teacher that > worked with special needs children. In her Vedic chart, she has Moon > conj Ketu in Pisces in 5th. That seems very fitting for a person that > works with special needs children. It could reflect her own Dyslexia > and ADHD. She has Venus conj Ketu and 12th house lord(Jupiter)in her > Navamsha chart(9th harmonic chart used for marriage and > finetuning),and that can indicate that her partners could have been > involved with special needs. I definitely fit that including my > history of special ed, Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,and ADHD. I have 12th house > lord(Moon) in my Vedic chart,and that could indicate my partner could > have Dyslexia,ADHD,and special needs. My 12th house lord(Moon) > conjunct 4th house lord(Mars) could indicate my mother with Dyslexic > and ADHD traits. My 12th house lord conjunct my 9th house lord (Mars) > can indicate my father that had Dyslexic and ADHD traits. Both my > parents had substance abuse problems and spent time in jail. I have > 12th house lord in 5th in my Navamsha chart,and that could indicate I > could have children with special needs. I have Moon conj Ketu in 4th > house in Navamsha chart,and this could indicate my mother who has > ADHD personality traits. Of course, it can indicate my own ADHD > traits. Of course, my Ketu in Cancer in 12th could indicate my > ADHD,Dyslexia,Dyspraxia stuff too. My mother has Ketu in 1st and Sun > in 12th in her Vedic chart. Interestingly her Ketu is conjunct > Jupiter and Jupiter,and that can indicate her children can have > special special problems in communications,speech,and learning. That > was definitely me. Jupiter is the indicator of Children in Vedic > Astrology. > > The thing is that Special Needs,ADHD,high sensitivity,and > spirituality can actually be one in the same It just really depends > on the culture. Also depends on how others view you. > > > To me, spirituality is real. Nobody will ever convince me otherwise. > Psychiatrists definitely won't. I wish that everybody can embrace > their spirituality without worrying about being labeled "psychotic" I > wish that all ADHDers can be viewed in a much positive light all over > the world and not just in India. > > > > Raymond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Raymond, In my findings, Jupiter is the main culprit. A vegetarian diet consisting of 80 - 90% whole grains, and the rest pulses and dark leafy greens, sugar free and foods free of colour additives (eg tetrazine) helps 100% Set out a rigid routine for the child. Best wishes, Swee RK [krshna78] 20 December 2004 03:17 vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: How ADHD is viewed in India vedic astrology, "astynaz" <astynaz> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I was reading Thom Hartmann's COMPLETE GUIDE TO ADHD. He refers to to > ADHDers as Hunters. He doesn't see ADHD as a disorder that needs to > be medicated. He feels that ADHD has its own gifts. He even pointed > out that adults with ADHD are 300 percent more likely to start or own > their own companies than are "normal" people. That was according to > 1994 article in NEWSWEEK. > > > > Here is something how ADHD is viewed in India........page 78 to 79 > > > Thom Hartman asked "Are you familiar with the personality type where > people seem to crave stimulation but have a hard time staying with > one thing? They hop from career to career, and sometimes even from > relationship to relationship, and never seem to settle down?" > > "Ah we know this type well" one of the men said, the other 2 men > nodding in agreement. > > "What do you call it?" Thom asked > > "Very holy," he said, "These are old souls, near the end of their > karmic cycle." Again the other two nodded agreement, perhapsa bit > more vigorously in response to my startled look(Thom) > > "Yes," the physican said, taking his turn in the conversation. "In > our religion, we believe that the purpose if reincarnation is to > eventually free oneself from worldly entanglement and desire. In each > lifetime we experience certain lessons, until finally we are free of > this earth and can merge into the oneness of what you would call God. > When a soul is very close to the end of those thousands of > incarnations, he must take a few lifetimes and do many, many things, > to clean up the little threads left over from his previous lifetimes. > > "This is a man very close to becoming enlightened," the first > businessman added. "We have great respect for such individuals, > although their lives may be difficult." > > The other businessman raised a finger and interjected; "But it is the > difficulties of such lives that purify the soul." the others nodded > in agreement. > > "In America we consider this a psychiatric disorder" Thom said. All > three looked startled, then laughed. > > "In America, you consider our most holy men, our yogis and swamis, to > be crazy people too," said the physician with sadness in his > voice. "So it is with different cultures. We live in different > worlds." > > > > > I am diagnosed inattentive type ADHD. I guess that I am far better > off living in India than here in USA. Some people even think that I > look Indian. heheheeheheh > > > Here is something from my Vedic report > In your mind you think of spiritual life as real and true and so you > know that material life is not the aim of life. This comes gradually > as you get older, as material expectations are one by one ruled out > as unfulfilling. Therefore, gradually through life, you spend more of > your time and energy towards serving good causes. Also, in an attempt > to sort things out in this transition, you become restless, and > sometimes try to spend for pleasure, only to feel increased > frustration. Overall, you should do well because of your sincere > approach to life. Areas to try to prevent disease troubles would > include the feet, eyes and private parts. Ketu is in 12. > > Yep...but I wouldn't talk to psychiatrists about that stuff. > > In Vedic Astrology, I feel that Ketu,Rahu, and 12th could be related > to ADHD........My interest in Vedic Astrology has greatly > increased,and I am voraciously reading Vedic Astrology material and > looking at Vedic Astrology charts. I have also considered using the > whole house method(Vedic Astrology house system) in Western Astrology. > > In Western Astrology, the outer planets as well as Chiron > > > > "Disorders" might actually be gifts in other cultures. Therefore, I > don't feel a person should be forced to fix which is viewed as not > being broken in other cultures. This is what I will keep in mind when > I have children. I know that I will have to deal with teachers and > educational psychologists who tell me "You're kid has ADHD,and he/she > needs medication." I am romantically interested in a woman that is > also Dyslexic and ADHD like me, and she's really against medicating > children with ADHD. She has been a daycare/preschool teacher that > worked with special needs children. In her Vedic chart, she has Moon > conj Ketu in Pisces in 5th. That seems very fitting for a person that > works with special needs children. It could reflect her own Dyslexia > and ADHD. She has Venus conj Ketu and 12th house lord(Jupiter)in her > Navamsha chart(9th harmonic chart used for marriage and > finetuning),and that can indicate that her partners could have been > involved with special needs. I definitely fit that including my > history of special ed, Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,and ADHD. I have 12th house > lord(Moon) in my Vedic chart,and that could indicate my partner could > have Dyslexia,ADHD,and special needs. My 12th house lord(Moon) > conjunct 4th house lord(Mars) could indicate my mother with Dyslexic > and ADHD traits. My 12th house lord conjunct my 9th house lord (Mars) > can indicate my father that had Dyslexic and ADHD traits. Both my > parents had substance abuse problems and spent time in jail. I have > 12th house lord in 5th in my Navamsha chart,and that could indicate I > could have children with special needs. I have Moon conj Ketu in 4th > house in Navamsha chart,and this could indicate my mother who has > ADHD personality traits. Of course, it can indicate my own ADHD > traits. Of course, my Ketu in Cancer in 12th could indicate my > ADHD,Dyslexia,Dyspraxia stuff too. My mother has Ketu in 1st and Sun > in 12th in her Vedic chart. Interestingly her Ketu is conjunct > Jupiter and Jupiter,and that can indicate her children can have > special special problems in communications,speech,and learning. That > was definitely me. Jupiter is the indicator of Children in Vedic > Astrology. > > The thing is that Special Needs,ADHD,high sensitivity,and > spirituality can actually be one in the same It just really depends > on the culture. Also depends on how others view you. > > > To me, spirituality is real. Nobody will ever convince me otherwise. > Psychiatrists definitely won't. I wish that everybody can embrace > their spirituality without worrying about being labeled "psychotic" I > wish that all ADHDers can be viewed in a much positive light all over > the world and not just in India. > > > > Raymond Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Raymond, Moon-Mercury afflictions cause allergies, asthma, TB, leprosy etc. Fatty Acid deficiency is due to Jupiter's weakness. Saturn causes depression. He is the Karmic reminder. Afflicted Moon with Rahu causes psychotic syndrome. The aggression can be caused either Mars or Ketu. Your speech/ear problem is related to the 2nd house with Mercury as the significator. The 2nd house Lord probably "fell" in yuti when the illness happened to you. The 6th house and Sashtamsa with Paryaya Dasa should be used in combination to look at diseases and to time them. Pluto takes 249 years to go round the zodiac. This means 2-3 life span or a human being are affected. Pluto is in the loka loka mountains, as are Uranus and Neptune. Chiron, I would akin it to one of Saturn's sons (upaketu). (Reference: Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 3 or more reading material from Bhagavata Purana). When I began Vedic astrology, it was very difficult for me not to delineate with Uranus etc. Try and "unlearn" and you'll see a whole new pattern in Vedic astrology italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal">alone that is very pertinent indeed. Incidentally, the people from China, Korea etc are denoted by Ketu. Best wishes, Swee -----Original Message----- astynaz [astynaz ] 20 December 2004 16:13 swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm Re: How ADHD is viewed in India Hi, I have to disagree. Not all ADHD and learning disabilities are caused by allergies. I read that allergies cause less than 10 percent of ADHD. Some are caused by ear infections that result in cerebellar vestibular dysfunction. I had a severe ear infection when I was an infant,and I developed auditory processing problems that led to speech problems as well as problems with coordination and balance. I was always hypersensitive to surroundings but not as much as autistics and Aspergers. Some believe that ADHD,Dyspraxia,and Dyslexia are caused by Essential Fatty Acid deficiencies. Dyslexics,Dyspraxics,and ADHDers have been found to be deficient in those things including especially DHA. Therefore some people believe that DHA can help with ADHD,Dyslexia,and Dyspraxia. There have also been connections with not being breastfed and fatty acid deficiencies. My mother told me that I wasn't breastfed. I doubt that she was breastfed too. My mother was unwanted by her mother. My mother was unplanned pregnancy. Many people with ADHD have sensory integration problems. Those things are common in people with ADHD. ADHD is not necessarily a disorder. It can just be an alternative way of thinking and doing things. It depends on how others see it. In different cultures, ADHD can be something else. That was the whole point of my post. How India sees ADHD personality characteristics differently. High sensitivity,vivid imaginations,high energy,nonlinear and intuitive thinking,predominant picture thinking,visual spatial learners,problems with rote memorization,disorganization are common in people with ADHD and other learning disabilities......that fits right in with Ketu,Rahu..especially with connections to Moon and Mercury Definitely Uranus,Pluto and Neptune in Western Astrology. I do have a strong influence of those energies in my Western Astrology chart. So does everybody else in my family who have ADHD personality characteristics. The interpretation of Ketu in 12th seems so ADD like and reflects what I posted about how Indians see the ADD personality type. The view of what ADHD is relative. You think that its a disorder that is caused by allergies. Some think that its a disorder that is caused by different brain wiring like a smaller cerebellum. Some think that its a disorder caused by cerebellar vestibular dysfunction. Some think that it is caused by Essential Fatty Acid Deficiencies. Some think its just nonlinar,picturethinking. Some think that its caused by disorientation. Some people are hyperactive because they have poor sense of time. They might not know that they are doing things too quickly or too slow. ADHD people can be creative. In DRIVEN TO DISTRACTION, John Ratey and Ed Hallowell said that creativity is ADHD gone right. There is a strong connection between creativity and ADHD. I know this personally. There is strong connection between Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD,and sensory integration dysfunction. 20 percent of people with ADHD have Dyslexia. 40 percent of Dyslexics have ADHD. The symptoms overlap too including problems with organization,learning by rote,attention problems,coordination problems,and poor sense of time. I still have problems with those things. I do have a history of Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD. Keep in mind that Bipolar and other mood disorders overlap with ADHD. I was misdiagnosed Bipolar myself, and I have a history of Anxiety and Depression problems. There are so many people with learning disabilities and ADHD that have comorbid disorders that include mood disorders. A lot of people with Aspergers were misdiagnosed as ADHD. In the book,THE BIPOLAR CHILD, Aspergers is listed as one of the conditions that can be misdiagnosed as ADHD. Also learning disabilities is listed as one of the common symptoms and traits in bipolar children. Oversensitivity to environmental influences is listed as one of the very common symptoms and traits in bipolar children. Some things don't work for everybody. There can be different causes for ADHD. ADHD is not necessarily a disorder. That view is relative. A lot of people believe that people that talk about having psychic and metaphysical experiences are psychotic. A lot of people have been diagnosed for being open about those things. I believe in those things myself, and I would never talk about those things to people that believe in psychiatry and psychology. Also keep in mind that there are 3 different types of ADHD Inattentive type Hyperactive type Combined type You don't have to be hyperactive to be diagnosed ADHD inattentive type You don't have to be inattentive to be diagnosed ADHD inattentive type. To be diagnsoed ADHD combined type, you have to have many symptoms of inattentive type symptoms and hyperactive type symptoms. I was diagnosed inattentive type ADHD,and so I don't have hyperactivity. http://www.dys-add.com/symptoms.html http://www.levinsonmedical.com/information/syndrome.html http://www2.smumn.edu/stupages/~kseichma/Dyslexia.htm http://www.dyslexia.com/ http://www.clubi.ie/dyslexia/charactr.html#percept http://www.dyslexia-add.org/issues.html http://www.washington.edu/newsroom/news/1999archive/10- 99archive/k100499a.html http://www.dyslexiacentre.co.uk/ http://www.isn.net/~jypsy/dyspraxia.htm http://www.hdsg.20m.com/custom2.html http://www.dyspraxia.org.nz/what_is.htm http://www.dyspraxiafoundation.org.uk/dyspraxia- information/Adults/inadults.html page 3 ADD and ADHD COMPLEMENTARY MEDICINE SOLUTIONS ......Finally, a science-based, natural approach without dangerous,addictive drugs By Charles Gant MD, PhD PHYSIOLOGICAL RISK FACTORS FOR ADHD WITH AUTHORS OF PUBLISHED ARTICLES 1) Food and Additive Allergies and Sensitivities (Boris, Kaplan, Egger, Rapp, O'Shea, Hughes, McGovern, Mayron, Crook) - 9 references 2) Heavy and Toxic Metal Toxicity (Eppright, Howard, Thomson, Hansen, Gittelman, David, Tuthill) - 7 references 3) Low-Protein, High-Carbohydrate Diet (Long-Term, not Acute) (Connors, Stein, Prone, Kershner) - 4 references 4) Mineral Imbalances (Marlowe, Brenner 1, Lozoff 2, Durlach, Martinus, Waither, Ward) - 8 references 5) Essential Fatty Acid and Phospholid Deficiencies (Colquhoun, Mitchell, Stevens) - 3 references 6) Amino Acid Deficiences (Wood, Reimherr, Wender, Nemzer) - 4 references 7) Thyroid Disorders (Matocik, Hauser,Weiss) - 3 references 8) B Vitamin Deficiencies (Longnecker, Brenner(2), Coleman, Bhagavan, Hoffer) - 6 references General Nutrient Support DHA (docosahexaenoic acid) is a polyunsaturated fatty acid, and is an essential building block of brain and nerve tissue. DHA, can not be synthesized by the body, and therefore must be obtained by a diet high is deep-sea cold water fish. DHA, which constitutes a large percentage of the brain, supports brain development during the last trimester of pregnancy when the unborn child's demand for neurological growth increases greatly. If added to the mother's diet, it can help prevent the depletion of the mother's store of DHA, and support the developing baby's essential fatty acid needs.* I have some other things that I have written about ADHD and learning disabilities including western astrological things about them. I wrote about Neptune especially. Neptune has to do with misdiagnosis. Please feel free to message me in private. I can email you some of the things. Then you might see that ADHD is not all that cut and dry. One cure doesn't work everybody. Not all ADHD have the same traits. Raymond --- In vedic astrology, "Swee Chan" <swee@c...> wrote: > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Raymond, > > In my findings, Jupiter is the main culprit. A vegetarian diet consisting of > 80 - 90% whole grains, and the rest pulses and dark leafy greens, sugar free > and foods free of colour additives (eg tetrazine) helps 100% > > Set out a rigid routine for the child. > > Best wishes, > > Swee > > > RK [krshna78] > 20 December 2004 03:17 > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: How ADHD is viewed in India > > > > > vedic astrology, "astynaz" <astynaz> > wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I was reading Thom Hartmann's COMPLETE GUIDE TO ADHD. He refers to > to > > ADHDers as Hunters. He doesn't see ADHD as a disorder that needs to > > be medicated. He feels that ADHD has its own gifts. He even pointed > > out that adults with ADHD are 300 percent more likely to start or > own > > their own companies than are "normal" people. That was according to > > 1994 article in NEWSWEEK. > > > > > > > > Here is something how ADHD is viewed in India........page 78 to 79 > > > > > > Thom Hartman asked "Are you familiar with the personality type > where > > people seem to crave stimulation but have a hard time staying with > > one thing? They hop from career to career, and sometimes even from > > relationship to relationship, and never seem to settle down?" > > > > "Ah we know this type well" one of the men said, the other 2 men > > nodding in agreement. > > > > "What do you call it?" Thom asked > > > > "Very holy," he said, "These are old souls, near the end of their > > karmic cycle." Again the other two nodded agreement, perhapsa bit > > more vigorously in response to my startled look(Thom) > > > > "Yes," the physican said, taking his turn in the conversation. "In > > our religion, we believe that the purpose if reincarnation is to > > eventually free oneself from worldly entanglement and desire. In > each > > lifetime we experience certain lessons, until finally we are free > of > > this earth and can merge into the oneness of what you would call > God. > > When a soul is very close to the end of those thousands of > > incarnations, he must take a few lifetimes and do many, many > things, > > to clean up the little threads left over from his previous > lifetimes. > > > > "This is a man very close to becoming enlightened," the first > > businessman added. "We have great respect for such individuals, > > although their lives may be difficult." > > > > The other businessman raised a finger and interjected; "But it is > the > > difficulties of such lives that purify the soul." the others nodded > > in agreement. > > > > "In America we consider this a psychiatric disorder" Thom said. All > > three looked startled, then laughed. > > > > "In America, you consider our most holy men, our yogis and swamis, > to > > be crazy people too," said the physician with sadness in his > > voice. "So it is with different cultures. We live in different > > worlds." > > > > > > > > > > I am diagnosed inattentive type ADHD. I guess that I am far better > > off living in India than here in USA. Some people even think that I > > look Indian. heheheeheheh > > > > > > Here is something from my Vedic report > > In your mind you think of spiritual life as real and true and so > you > > know that material life is not the aim of life. This comes > gradually > > as you get older, as material expectations are one by one ruled out > > as unfulfilling. Therefore, gradually through life, you spend more > of > > your time and energy towards serving good causes. Also, in an > attempt > > to sort things out in this transition, you become restless, and > > sometimes try to spend for pleasure, only to feel increased > > frustration. Overall, you should do well because of your sincere > > approach to life. Areas to try to prevent disease troubles would > > include the feet, eyes and private parts. Ketu is in 12. > > > > Yep...but I wouldn't talk to psychiatrists about that stuff. > > > > In Vedic Astrology, I feel that Ketu,Rahu, and 12th could be > related > > to ADHD........My interest in Vedic Astrology has greatly > > increased,and I am voraciously reading Vedic Astrology material and > > looking at Vedic Astrology charts. I have also considered using the > > whole house method(Vedic Astrology house system) in Western > Astrology. > > > > In Western Astrology, the outer planets as well as Chiron > > > > > > > > "Disorders" might actually be gifts in other cultures. Therefore, I > > don't feel a person should be forced to fix which is viewed as not > > being broken in other cultures. This is what I will keep in mind > when > > I have children. I know that I will have to deal with teachers and > > educational psychologists who tell me "You're kid has ADHD,and > he/she > > needs medication." I am romantically interested in a woman that is > > also Dyslexic and ADHD like me, and she's really against medicating > > children with ADHD. She has been a daycare/preschool teacher that > > worked with special needs children. In her Vedic chart, she has > Moon > > conj Ketu in Pisces in 5th. That seems very fitting for a person > that > > works with special needs children. It could reflect her own > Dyslexia > > and ADHD. She has Venus conj Ketu and 12th house lord(Jupiter)in > her > > Navamsha chart(9th harmonic chart used for marriage and > > finetuning),and that can indicate that her partners could have been > > involved with special needs. I definitely fit that including my > > history of special ed, Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,and ADHD. I have 12th > house > > lord(Moon) in my Vedic chart,and that could indicate my partner > could > > have Dyslexia,ADHD,and special needs. My 12th house lord(Moon) > > conjunct 4th house lord(Mars) could indicate my mother with > Dyslexic > > and ADHD traits. My 12th house lord conjunct my 9th house lord > (Mars) > > can indicate my father that had Dyslexic and ADHD traits. Both my > > parents had substance abuse problems and spent time in jail. I have > > 12th house lord in 5th in my Navamsha chart,and that could > indicate I > > could have children with special needs. I have Moon conj Ketu in > 4th > > house in Navamsha chart,and this could indicate my mother who has > > ADHD personality traits. Of course, it can indicate my own ADHD > > traits. Of course, my Ketu in Cancer in 12th could indicate my > > ADHD,Dyslexia,Dyspraxia stuff too. My mother has Ketu in 1st and > Sun > > in 12th in her Vedic chart. Interestingly her Ketu is conjunct > > Jupiter and Jupiter,and that can indicate her children can have > > special special problems in communications,speech,and learning. > That > > was definitely me. Jupiter is the indicator of Children in Vedic > > Astrology. > > > > The thing is that Special Needs,ADHD,high sensitivity,and > > spirituality can actually be one in the same It just really depends > > on the culture. Also depends on how others view you. > > > > > > To me, spirituality is real. Nobody will ever convince me > otherwise. > > Psychiatrists definitely won't. I wish that everybody can embrace > > their spirituality without worrying about being > labeled "psychotic" I > > wish that all ADHDers can be viewed in a much positive light all > over > > the world and not just in India. > > > > > > > > Raymond > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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