Final Dispositor, final host, final say?

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Dear J_R jyotish clubmembers,

 

While there is so much to ponder about in the wealth of thoughts and

gemstones (ideas) that exist in classics, some of the modern thoughts

have been quite intriguing too and one such has tugged at my mind

too. This is the concept of dispositors or as some call these:

depositors.

 

Essentially, a planet is placed in a rashi and the lord of that

rashi/sign then becomes the representative of the planet. If lagnesh

saturn is placed in the 4th (e.g., taurus) then venus becomes the

dispositor of lagnesh and lagna. Semantic debates have occurred

around the label and other labels, such as 'surrogate', alternate,

representative, secondary image etc have been tossed around. The

venus in this instance will, one posits, act as the lagnesha's ally.

Depending on its strength and manifest nature, it will support or not

the planet that it has invited into its house! There we have another

term! Lagnesha in this case, saturn, is a guest in venus' sign, so

venus must be the host! The concept is attractive, but does it work

in practical astrology?

 

Final dispositor or final host (if you go with the new terminology

just hatched -- is the planet that you end up with, if you consider

the host's host and that host's host and so on.

 

Let us say lagnesh mercury is in scorpio

and mars is in aries. Then mars becomes the final host for mercury.

Say the venus, rahu and moon in the same chart are in sagittarius and

jupiter is in capricorn and saturn is in gemini and mercury as we

already know is in scorpio and mars is in aries, so again the buck

stops in aries and mars becomes the final dispositor.

 

Now, what if the chart is so arranged at birth that the same planet

becomes the final host, final dispositor for ALL planets in the

chart? Surely, this must mean something and worthy of note and

attention.

 

I believe the concept was originally put forward by Sri Manik Chand

Jain.

 

Has anyone played around with it in charts and observed what happened

in these peoples' lives? I am sure we can all have opinions and

surmises about this situation, given our enormous divine creativity,

but let us begin with sharing observations if any exist out there.

 

Is it good to have a single final host? Does it not put all the eggs

in one basket? If the final planet happens to be weak or malefic, is

it case closed for the individual?

 

I hope and pray, NOT!

 

RR

 

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RRji,

The spectrum of light has seven colours, if a person

is intensely focussed on a single colour, the shades

of other colours fade away, any person born on this

earth needs to have a sprinkling of all of them to

have sufficient resources to accomplish their tasks.

 

The dispositor concept is intriguing, a single finite

dispositor basically implies that only one graha out

of seven sits at home and should not be a very common

phenomena....but...

Consider this data, however, it has been taken out of

the ephemeris for a decade beginning Jan 1, 1999 to

Dec 31, 2008. A sample in which Saturn is between

Aries and Leo and is not dispositor in any of the

days. The total data is of 3654 days.

 

Graha    rashi    Total days    Final dispositor     

                                                     

                                  (in days)

 

Sun         Leo    310 199                            

Moon      Cn       306  148                 

Jupiter    Sg/Pi   516  256                      Mars

     Ar/Sc    741   471                    

Mercury  Ge/ vi       645  271

Venus      Ta/Li      676 434                     Rahu

       Aq        544  229

That is if we take Ra as the Lord of Aquarius and

treat it as a dispositor too, we have as many as 2208

days out of 3654 when a chart is likely to have a

single dispositor. Leaving Rahu aside we still have

1979 days out of 3654 almost 54 % charts with single

final dispositor.

And then we have so many arrows in the jyotisha bow,

how about nakshatra dispositors?

regards

 

rishi

 

 

--- crystal pages <rrgb (AT) sprint (DOT) ca> wrote:

 

> Dear J_R jyotish clubmembers,

>

> While there is so much to ponder about in the wealth

> of thoughts and

> gemstones (ideas) that exist in classics, some of

> the modern thoughts

> have been quite intriguing too and one such has

> tugged at my mind

> too. This is the concept of dispositors or as some

> call these:

> depositors.

>

> Essentially, a planet is placed in a rashi and the

> lord of that

> rashi/sign then becomes the representative of the

> planet. If lagnesh

> saturn is placed in the 4th (e.g., taurus) then

> venus becomes the

> dispositor of lagnesh and lagna. Semantic debates

> have occurred

> around the label and other labels, such as

> 'surrogate', alternate,

> representative, secondary image etc have been tossed

> around. The

> venus in this instance will, one posits, act as the

> lagnesha's ally.

> Depending on its strength and manifest nature, it

> will support or not

> the planet that it has invited into its house! There

> we have another

> term! Lagnesha in this case, saturn, is a guest in

> venus' sign, so

> venus must be the host! The concept is attractive,

> but does it work

> in practical astrology?

>

> Final dispositor or final host (if you go with the

> new terminology

> just hatched -- is the planet that you end up with,

> if you consider

> the host's host and that host's host and so on.

>

> Let us say lagnesh mercury is in scorpio

> and mars is in aries. Then mars becomes the final

> host for mercury.

> Say the venus, rahu and moon in the same chart are

> in sagittarius and

> jupiter is in capricorn and saturn is in gemini and

> mercury as we

> already know is in scorpio and mars is in aries, so

> again the buck

> stops in aries and mars becomes the final

> dispositor.

>

> Now, what if the chart is so arranged at birth that

> the same planet

> becomes the final host, final dispositor for ALL

> planets in the

> chart? Surely, this must mean something and worthy

> of note and

> attention.

>

> I believe the concept was originally put forward by

> Sri Manik Chand

> Jain.

>

> Has anyone played around with it in charts and

> observed what happened

> in these peoples' lives? I am sure we can all have

> opinions and

> surmises about this situation, given our enormous

> divine creativity,

> but let us begin with sharing observations if any

> exist out there.

>

> Is it good to have a single final host? Does it not

> put all the eggs

> in one basket? If the final planet happens to be

> weak or malefic, is

> it case closed for the individual?

>

> I hope and pray, NOT!

>

> RR

>

> <please do not crosspost this thread in other forums

> -- we do not

> want to confuse all of them while we are merely

> exploring!>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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