Partha, please elaborate -ketu in d-10-dear venkat

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Dear Rama

 

THe dieties show what karma a person has to undergo. Planets in

nirriti and Yama can mean problems, or some sort of suffering. He

might be famous, but still he has to suffer. Whereas planet say in

Ananta can pave the way for moksha

best wishes

partha

 

 

vedic astrology, "venkatarama_sastry"

<venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

> Dear Partha,

>

> Thank you for this very detailed explanation. I, and the rest of

the

> students on this forum, are lucky! Yes, I can see how the saints

> are "working" towards Moksha and this shows in their 10th. And the

> point about "building" is a great one too, I clearly see the logic

> now.

>

> I'm afraid I missed the point regarding the dieties. How do these

> play into the rest of your posting?

>

> Thanks,

> Venkatarama

>

> vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

> <partvinu5> wrote:

> > Dear Venkatarama and list

> >

> > The dasamsa is also called Swargamsa. This divisional chart shows

> us

> > what we can do, or would do rather to attain the Swarga.

> > The dieties of the Dasamsa as explained by Narasimha earlier are

> >

> > Indra East

> > Agni Southeast

> > Yama South

> > RakshasaSouthwest

> > Varuna West

> > Vayu Northwest

> > Kubera North

> > Isana Northeast

> > Brahma Down

> > Ananta Up

> >

> > Now the dasamsa shows the key to the karma of a person.

> > Artha and earth are from the same root, latin and sankrit

> > notwithstanding. So when we talk about earth, we talk about the

> work

> > that has to be done. The work that paves the way to Moksha or

> final

> > emancipation. Thus the planets in the various dasamsas, show what

> > karma we have to undergo!

> >

> > The three goals/ayanas of Dharma, artha, kama are ultimately for

> only

> > one goal that is of Moksha.

> >

> > A soul has to undergo all these by choice and the boundaries of

> karma

> > before it realises its true self. SO when we talk about artha, we

> are

> > talking about the Mool(The root), the Cause, isn't that the

> > foundation of all Shankara's Philosophies.

> > Excuse me, i am not starting a thread on shankara or any

> philosophy,

> > but just trying to point out that all the great gurus, the

> monists,

> > the dualists, actually tried to understand the Moola, the Cause,

> > whether there was any cause or not for any effect to be produced.

> > Curious readers may go through Advaitam, Vishista Advaitam, and

> > Dvaitam for understanding the same,

> >

> > Now coming back, we see saints have Ketu in arthatrikona in

> dasamsa.

> > Which shows that they were "working" towards Moksha. WIthout

> action

> > there is no reaction, they were all trying to understand action.

> > According to some rare classifed teachings, thought itself is

> action,

> > and not the act itself. Otherwise, how could you explain injury

to

> a

> > person, when many people became "jealous" of him recieving an

> award,

> > or getting married probably. Rama , you can appreciate this as

you

> > know in our marriages, the groom wears a "disthi chukka" or a

> small

> > black til on his cheek, to avoid spurios "thoughts", which are

> > nothing but actions.

> >

> > Once Guru Sanjay said, all the arudhas are similar to thoughts

> which

> > are the manifestation of Karma.

> >

> > When we talk about moksha trikona, we should go for appropriate

> > divisional charts such as d-20, and d-60. The root for these

> > divisional cahrts are the 8th house and the 12th house.

> > 10th house is the root for the dasamsa chart, so work, prestige,

> or

> > things associated with the same are to be seen in this chart.

> > Most famous saints, built temples, institutions(YSS, RK Mission)

> etc.

> > So any act to build foundations on earth(Artha) should have

strong

> > ketu connection in artha trikonas.

> > best wishes

> > partha

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "venkatarama_sastry"

> > <venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

> > > Wonderful explanation, Lakshman Ji. Yes, that makes a lot of

> sense,

> > > the artha trikona determines the livelihood. You also talked

> about

> > > the Dharma and Moksha trikonas, that I asked about. How about

> the

> > > Kaama trikona? Will the 3rd house similarly show the existing

> > > desires, the 7th what you do to achieve those desires and 11th

> the

> > > gains thereof? That actually makes a lot of sense, given what

> each

> > > of thsoe houses represent.

> > >

> > > Thank you for sharing your knowledge, I appreciate it!

> > > Venkatarama

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, Lakshman Brahma

> > > <lbrahma> wrote:

> > > > Dear Venkatrama

> > > > even though your question is directed to guru Partha,I

> > > > am giving my $0.02 worth..

> > > > The Dharma trikona tells the dharma one need to follow

> > > > where as the artha trikona determines ones lively

> > > > hood. 2nd house is the house of sustainence and the

> > > > trines to it and planets there in helps the growth of

> > > > the same. See 2nd house is the resource you have. the

> > > > 5th from it is 6th house which will determinr the

> > > > efforts you need to put in to survive and the fifth

> > > > from 6th is 10th, which is the Karma sthana or the

> > > > gains of your efforts from 6th.

> > > > If you look at the charts of these great saints, it

> > > > was their lively hood. Not only they followed it but

> > > > also helped and guided others. As far as moksha

> > > > trikona is concerned it is what you would like to give

> > > > away willingly. you see the 4th house is the house of

> > > > sukha, properties.. in order to give that away easily

> > > > you will be over come with lot of obstacles as denoted

> > > > by 8th house to attain the gains which is Moksha

> > > > denoted by 12th house.

> > > >

> > > > I would appreciate if Gurus can enlighten more.

> > > >

> > > > Lakshman

> > > >

> > > > --- venkatarama_sastry <venkatarama_sastry>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear Sundeep and Partha,

> > > > >

> > > > > Why "Arthatrikona", rather than Dharmatrikona or

> > > > > really,

> > > > > Mokshatrikona, which I would connect with

> > > > > religiosity?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks!

> > > > > Venkatarama

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha

> > > > > sarathy"

> > > > > <partvinu5> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Sundeep

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If you have read the entire article, there is a

> > > > > mention of Ketu in

> > > > > > arthatrikonas. Fixed sign as dasamsa lagna(Like

> > > > > ShankaraCharya)

> > > > > and

> > > > > > ketu in arthatrikona. IF i remember, it was not

> > > > > mentioned

> > > > > > specifically, but is inferred from the article.

> > > > > There were lot of

> > > > > > charts discussed, one point was ketu in Capricorn

> > > > > Dasamsa, that

> > > > > was

> > > > > > also your point.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Quote from the article

> > > > > > "Aurobindo Ghose,The Dasamsa of Jagadguru Adi

> > > > > Sankara (Chart – 7)

> > > > > has

> > > > > > Ketu and the Sun in the Arthatrikona indicating

> > > > > religiosity and

> > > > > the

> > > > > > founding of institution to propagate his Advaita

> > > > > philosophy. In

> > > > > the

> > > > > > Dasamsa of Sri Tyagaraja (Chart – 8), Ketu flanked

> > > > > by the

> > > > > luminaries

> > > > > > dominates the arthtrikona showing that he was a

> > > > > Saint first and

> > > > > that

> > > > > > music was his medium of expression,Chart – 11 is

> > > > > the Dasamsa of a

> > > > > > temple priest. The arthtrikona has exalted Ketu in

> > > > > the second."

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So i hope you are reading the article properly.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now coming to your second question

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I meant future part of the Present life, and not

> > > > > future lives. SO

> > > > > i

> > > > > > hope the confused caused is cleared.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thus 2nd, 5th, 8th and 11th consist of the later

> > > > > part of the

> > > > > present

> > > > > > life, it is applicable in rasi and d-10.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > WHen i look at random charts, i tell or rather ask

> > > > > the person

> > > > > whether

> > > > > > his first job, or initial part of the career had

> > > > > anything to do

> > > > > with

> > > > > > what the "6th" house signified. I asked Vinay

> > > > > patwardhan the same

> > > > > > Thing, and he confirmed!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > > partha

> > > > > >

> > > > > >