Guest guest Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 ||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah|| Dear Rameshji , You have attempted honestly and really appreciate you for your detailed efforts! If you read carefully in last part of my post I'd written So initially he's in Electronics and Telecommunication Engineering and now changes to other stream! while replying to Raman! You flow in opposite direction ! Regarding timing of brake pls try when he resume to studies again? He's not involved in any teaching or research.Regarding 2nd House if you see Sat is vakri and should be taken from previous house!! My two cents to your D24 analysis, I read somewhere (I think on jyotish Discovery site) that Jup a karka for D24 chart hence analyse the 4th,9th,2nd H from Jup also! (Correct me if I'm wrong) If you observe Jup is having exalted mars+nodes in 2nd H from Jup, 9th H is of Sun who is placed in 8th to Jup get aspected by mars+nodes from Cp also having argala of ven who is strong in own H and bitter enemy of sun, and 4th H is own by Jup himself and placed in own House and having primary argala of mars+nodes and so on!! This solves the current case efficiently. If you club it u may explore more!! That is just my suggestion and if wrong pls consider me. I got the ref for above mentions. Article name is :--NOTES ON THE IMPORTANCE OF DIVISIONAL CHARTS, AND THEIR USE Robert A. Koch Under SubTitle :-- Karka Bhavas Take Jupiter as the natural karaka for education, and find its location in the Chaturvimsamsa chart (D-24), or education. Then you will get a good idea of when the person might make progress in studies, or whether or not the person will take education seriously at all. Looking Forwrd for your reply and intersting explanations! Regards, Vinay Patwardhan "Ramesh Gangaramani" <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> Sat Jun 19, 2004 2:31 pm RE: [vedic astrology] RE:--Re: Puzzel no 1 (To Raman, Pradeep,Sabri ) Click Here Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Vinay, Sorry to butt in at this stage. I am making an attempt by looking at the divisional chart D24. My observations are as follows: 1. 4H is for basic formal education say O level. Saturn is placed in friendly Gemini rashi.The house is aspected by Jupiter placed in own house. 4L is exalted Mercury placed in 7H. Saturn shows traditional studies and also hints at Mechanical or Chemical studies. Jupiter leads to legal, philosophical. I presume 2. 9H shows graduate studies. it is aspected by Venus which gives an indication of education related to Chemicals. 9L is exalted Mars conjoined by Rahu and Ketu and aspected by Sun. Mars shows focus on logic, Ketu computers or precision machinery and Rahu, say Big (Mechanical) engineering. 3. 2H shows master level education: Moon is placed in 2H. 2L is again exalted Mars, conjoined by Rahu and Ketu and aspected by Sun. 4. 7H is for doctoral studies: 7L is exalted Mercury placed in own house, aspected by Rahu (research). 5. 10H is Marka for 4H and 9H: It would therefore show end of studies. It has Jupiter in own house, aspected by Saturn. Based on above, I feel the native may have started off which Chemical engineering and then moved over to Computers (probably software). Since Mercury is debilitated in D1 and is being seen as a pointer for this break, dasa could be Rahu-Rahu-Mercury. (March 96- July 96). Since 2H and 7H are also very strong, the native will pursue further studies. The native may also get involved in teaching which helps him to continue to be in touch with education and research! I apologies in advance if I am off mark. One more point, Chadrashekharji often looks at 2nd house (Vidya) affliction for beak in education. I presume it is only one of the factors. I do not see affliction to 2H in D1. May be this case appears to be more of a change than break! Kind regards Ramesh patwardhanvinay [patwardhanvinay (AT) hotmail (DOT) com]Saturday, June 19, 2004 9:11 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] RE:--Re: Puzzel no 1 (To Raman, Pradeep,Sabri ) ||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah|| Dear Pradeep,Sabri and Raman thanks for participating and make me more thinkable with diff views to locate an event. Now as every one is confirmed about brakes in education , I admit there is brake in education Now if one want to see the real intersting part pls try out the timings when he'd brakes in education and when he resumed again? (Stream is technical and variation is in technical line again with diff stream of Engineering) Pls find here with my comments to every one:- Dear Pradeep, Thanks for comments but believe me it's Aarudha effect not real! I think I'd given u the hint in above lines. Not tried on too many options! Also don't forget to keep Rahu in asc being running Dasa lord and complete your analysis!! I think you have not taken any role of star also!! And main point pls check up the Transit of main planets and especially nodes w.r.t. all 4 refrences.Pls look in lines below to get more hints! Dear Sabri, Thanks for attempting on puzzel. He's stream is Engineering with diversion in Engineering again!! No touch of spirituality nor knows any mantra shstra and not in scientific reaserch also. Your tries on period of interuption is on right way pls try to look into it carefuly!! Regarding other observations pls add kartari yoga to 4th and vesi and kemdrum yoga in chart along with exaltion of planets!! I think for any chart along with Other yogas and strengths moon,sun are important and may vary results accordingly.This is my opinion pls get confirmed from learned ones. Dear Raman , Thanks for giving comments and looking forward for another interesting post! Change in stream is correctly pointed out by you but in same stream !! Engineering stream!! If you stress on star level also you can see 4th lord is in star of Saturn placed in 9th but retro hence to be consider giving effects of 8th house also! From mercury point of view , mer is going to meet mars and both are in mercury star (I'm not writing for rasi as it's well explained by all participents!!) So initially he's in Electronics and Telecommunication Engineering and now changes to other stream!(Other than electronics so complete change is there!) Regarding astrology he used to here about astrology from myself only!! No interest in studing charts or hands I suggest him to try to learn the RamalShastra. But not serious yet!! I think I'd given enough hints for this and now mainly just guess about period of interruption in studies!! By tomorrow night , I'll give you whole scenario!! Wishing a good luck to all of you. Regards, Vinay Patwardhan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Vinay, Thank you for the pointers that you have given. They will help me to learn and understand better. I was lucky to have saved Robert Koch's article referred by you. It does suggest looking up the relevant houses also from Karka, which I didn’t do. As mentioned by him ; “This way, the vital harmonic associated with each varga is not lost in our search to interpret a chart correctly, just because the birth time might be off by a few minutes. Anyway, as I said earlier, if the rasi lagna is very close to the border of a certain varga, or division, then use that varga specifically to adjust the birth time. If the event or possibility does not make sense in the respective varga chart, then the birth time is probably off. “ And divisional charts are truly susceptible to change in Lagna. Incidentally I was also impressed by Sun in 5th house from Lagna in D24, Lagna Lord being Jupiter placed in Kendra in own house. I will now wait for responses from other members and see how the analysis moves on. Kind regards Ramesh "patwardhanvinay" <patwardhanvinay@h...> Sat Jun 19, 2004 3:19 pm RE:--RE: [vedic astrology] RE:--Re: Puzzel no 1 (To Raman, Pradeep,Sabri ) -------> Rameshji ||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah|| Dear Rameshji , You have attempted honestly and really appreciate you for your detailed efforts! If you read carefully in last part of my post I'd written So initially he's in Electronics and Telecommunication Engineering and now changes to other stream! while replying to Raman! You flow in opposite direction ! Regarding timing of brake pls try when he resume to studies again? He's not involved in any teaching or research. Regarding 2nd House if you see Sat is vakri and should be taken from previous house!! My two cents to your D24 analysis, I read somewhere (I think on jyotish Discovery site) that Jup a karka for D24 chart hence analyse the 4th,9th,2nd H from Jup also! (Correct me if I'm wrong) If you observe Jup is having exalted mars+nodes in 2nd H from Jup, 9th H is of Sun who is placed in 8th to Jup get aspected by mars+nodes from Cp also having argala of ven who is strong in own H and bitter enemy of sun, and 4th H is own by Jup himself and placed in own House and having primary argala of mars+nodes and so on!! This solves the current case efficiently. If you club it u may explore more!! That is just my suggestion and if wrong pls consider me. I got the ref for above mentions. Article name is :--NOTES ON THE IMPORTANCE OF DIVISIONAL CHARTS, AND THEIR USE Robert A. Koch Under SubTitle :-- Karka Bhavas Take Jupiter as the natural karaka for education, and find its location in the Chaturvimsamsa chart (D-24), or education. Then you will get a good idea of when the person might make progress in studies, or whether or not the person will take education seriously at all. Looking Forwrd for your reply and intersting explanations! Regards, Vinay Patwardhan Ramesh Gangaramani Saturday, June 19, 2004 1:01 PMvedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] RE:--Re: Puzzel no 1 (To Raman, Pradeep,Sabri ) Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Vinay, Sorry to butt in at this stage. I am making an attempt by looking at the divisional chart D24. My observations are as follows: 1. 4H is for basic formal education say O level. Saturn is placed in friendly Gemini rashi.The house is aspected by Jupiter placed in own house. 4L is exalted Mercury placed in 7H. Saturn shows traditional studies and also hints at Mechanical or Chemical studies. Jupiter leads to legal, philosophical. I presume 2. 9H shows graduate studies. it is aspected by Venus which gives an indication of education related to Chemicals. 9L is exalted Mars conjoined by Rahu and Ketu and aspected by Sun. Mars shows focus on logic, Ketu computers or precision machinery and Rahu, say Big (Mechanical) engineering. 3. 2H shows master level education: Moon is placed in 2H. 2L is again exalted Mars, conjoined by Rahu and Ketu and aspected by Sun. 4. 7H is for doctoral studies: 7L is exalted Mercury placed in own house, aspected by Rahu (research). 5. 10H is Marka for 4H and 9H: It would therefore show end of studies. It has Jupiter in own house, aspected by Saturn. Based on above, I feel the native may have started off which Chemical engineering and then moved over to Computers (probably software). Since Mercury is debilitated in D1 and is being seen as a pointer for this break, dasa could be Rahu-Rahu-Mercury. (March 96- July 96). Since 2H and 7H are also very strong, the native will pursue further studies. The native may also get involved in teaching which helps him to continue to be in touch with education and research! I apologies in advance if I am off mark. One more point, Chadrashekharji often looks at 2nd house (Vidya) affliction for beak in education. I presume it is only one of the factors. I do not see affliction to 2H in D1. May be this case appears to be more of a change than break! Kind regards Ramesh patwardhanvinay [patwardhanvinay (AT) hotmail (DOT) com]Saturday, June 19, 2004 9:11 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] RE:--Re: Puzzel no 1 (To Raman, Pradeep,Sabri ) ||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah|| Dear Pradeep,Sabri and Raman thanks for participating and make me more thinkable with diff views to locate an event. Now as every one is confirmed about brakes in education , I admit there is brake in education Now if one want to see the real intersting part pls try out the timings when he'd brakes in education and when he resumed again? (Stream is technical and variation is in technical line again with diff stream of Engineering) Pls find here with my comments to every one:- Dear Pradeep, Thanks for comments but believe me it's Aarudha effect not real! I think I'd given u the hint in above lines. Not tried on too many options! Also don't forget to keep Rahu in asc being running Dasa lord and complete your analysis!! I think you have not taken any role of star also!! And main point pls check up the Transit of main planets and especially nodes w.r.t. all 4 refrences.Pls look in lines below to get more hints! Dear Sabri, Thanks for attempting on puzzel. He's stream is Engineering with diversion in Engineering again!! No touch of spirituality nor knows any mantra shstra and not in scientific reaserch also. Your tries on period of interuption is on right way pls try to look into it carefuly!! Regarding other observations pls add kartari yoga to 4th and vesi and kemdrum yoga in chart along with exaltion of planets!! I think for any chart along with Other yogas and strengths moon,sun are important and may vary results accordingly.This is my opinion pls get confirmed from learned ones. Dear Raman , Thanks for giving comments and looking forward for another interesting post! Change in stream is correctly pointed out by you but in same stream !! Engineering stream!! If you stress on star level also you can see 4th lord is in star of Saturn placed in 9th but retro hence to be consider giving effects of 8th house also! From mercury point of view , mer is going to meet mars and both are in mercury star (I'm not writing for rasi as it's well explained by all participents!!) So initially he's in Electronics and Telecommunication Engineering and now changes to other stream!(Other than electronics so complete change is there!) Regarding astrology he used to here about astrology from myself only!! No interest in studing charts or hands I suggest him to try to learn the RamalShastra. But not serious yet!! I think I'd given enough hints for this and now mainly just guess about period of interruption in studies!! By tomorrow night , I'll give you whole scenario!! Wishing a good luck to all of you. Regards, Vinay Patwardhan Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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