Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Tue, 12 Oct 2004 21:32:37 +0100 Swee Chan swee User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (Windows/20040707) lakshmi ramesh b_lakshmi_ramesh Re: [vedic astrology] Re: RE:-mail on Pt S Raths article In-20041012165900.10759.qmail Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sanjayji and Smt. Lakshmi, "The official version of the story given out by TTD goes that when Srinivasa wanted to stay on the Tirumala Hills, he sought permission from Varaha murthy, who was already being worshipped there. While Sri Varaha willingly gave permission, He also expressed the sentiment that once Srinivasa stays on the Hills, no one would be inclined to worship Varaha. Then Srinivasa said that unless one worships Sri Varaha before worshipping Balaji, the visit would be fruitless. So, Sri Varahamurthy, as Rahu avatar, had been worshipped on the Tirumala hills from time immemorial." >From which Purana is this story? I heard your story from Gauranga Das and we followed your instructions by visiting Sri Varaha's temple first before Sri Venkateshwara's and lastly, Padmavati's temple. When I was in Puri, someone adviced me that I should have Chandi Path and puja done as my Rahu is debilitated. I had this done for 2 others and so far, they has been no change to these people's lives. I have also enquired from Visti whom the Vaisnava equivalent of Chandi is and was told that it is Dattatreya. >From what I gather here, Chandi puja is offered only when one is in Rahu's period. Please clear my doubts. love, Swee lakshmi ramesh wrote: Om Gurave Namah Namaste Gurudeva, I am indeed honoured to have your reply, Sir, and may I say with a great deal of nostalgia that it seems like old times again. What more can a sishya ask for than a correction / clarification from the Guru? Suddenly there seems to be a full moon lighting up the sky on this nearly new moon day! Guruji, the question of verifying the puranic basis of your teaching does not arise, because this very thread started with me trying to explain the import of your words, through my inadequate intellect. By the way, has the discussion discovered the real meaning of your words or were we miles off? Sanjayji, there is a varahamurthy temple on the Tirumala Hills (next to the Pushkarini) and unless one visits this temple first, it is said that there is no accrual of punya on account of visit to Balaji temple. I think most of the Telugu people know this, you can ask Narasimha Ji also. The official version of the story given out by TTD goes that when Srinivasa wanted to stay on the Tirumala Hills, he sought permission from Varaha murthy, who was already being worshipped there. While Sri Varaha willingly gave permission, He also expressed the sentiment that once Srinivasa stays on the Hills, no one would be inclined to worship Varaha. Then Srinivasa said that unless one worships Sri Varaha before worshipping Balaji, the visit would be fruitless. So, Sri Varahamurthy, as Rahu avatar, had been worshipped on the Tirumala hills from time immemorial. Sri Saamavedam Shanmukha Sarma, in his breath-taking pravachanams, repeatedly says that the “tattwa / nature /intention /specific power” of the deity must be understood by the study of the vigraha. Balaji’s vigraha is distinctive because of the huge “naamam” that hides half of His eyes and the entire “aagnya” chakra. The “netra darsanam” is allowed only on Thursdays, when the full power of the Lord is said to be experienced. Again, it is also known that the Lord also sports a golden sword (Nandaka, which reincarnated as Annamayya, as the legend goes), which is symbolic of Aakasa tattwa, apart from the chakra (agni)and Sankha (jala), that usually adorn the Vishnu vigrahas. And, Gurudeva, I think only Light can remove the tamas. Infact, Rathasaptami (the birthday of Sun), is celebrated as one-day brahmotsvam of the Lord in Tirumala, when the Lord is taken out in procession on various vahanas throughout the day, from sunrise to sunset. If He is indeed Rahu avatar, I think it is unlikely to happen. I feel that Sri Varaha as Rahu (downward movement) indicates the basic impulse of Kaliyuga and Srinivasa as Trivikrama (Anantha=upward movement) negates it. Infact, because of the “sword” factor, there are quite a few who argue that Balaji could be Kalki avatar, and they could very well be right. Anyway, as you have very beautifully pointed out, whatever be the name, they all belong to Him, The Nameless One. Guruji, I could be wrong on hundred counts, and I will gleefully wait for your corrections, because that would be great education in itself, for the entire list. Om Namo Naarayanaaya. Regards, Lakshmi Sanjay Rath <guruji (AT) srath (DOT) com> wrote: ::Sri Guru:: Dear Lakshmi The dictum is Kaloh Chandi Vinayaka meaning that during the period/effects of the dark or tamas planets Rahu and Ketu one should propitiate Chandi (for Rahu) and Vinayaka or Ganesha (for Ketu). The similar dictum "Kalou Venkata Nayakasya". refers to the Lord Balaji as having te special form of the Varaha Avatar and removing all the negatives of Rahu during Kali yuga. This Varaha Murty is also described in the Puranas - very specifically in the Skanda Purana and is called Venkatesvara Mahatmya. I think my teaching is based on the foundation of the Puranas. However, you can worship Balaji with every mantra for every avatar as well and you will get the results. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath Web Pages: http://srath.com B Lakshmi Ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh ] Tuesday, October 12, 2004 7:04 AM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: RE:-mail on Pt S Raths article .. Anyway, I'll check more and revert to you with comments on your chart. Om Gurave Namah Namaste Hari, There is a Varaha Murthy also on Tirumala Hills, which is also known as Varaha Kshetram. So, Rahu represents that Varaha Murthy and certainly not Lord Venkateshwara. If my memory serves me right, I think if you search the archives of Vedic-astrology you'd find a mail from Sarbani quoting Guruji that Lord Venkateshwara represents Vamana avatar and Lord Jagannath represents Nrisimha avatar. Perhaps Guruji could have revised his opinion after more introspection. I wouldn't know about it. The opinion of the poojaris of the temple is that the vigraha of the lord extends even below the floor of the sanctum sanctorum and that the archaka can often hear the sound of water near the Lord's idol. You must also know that no aircraft can fly above Tirumala, as the influence of the Lord and the congregation of Gods who are supposed to reside on the Hills is supposed to extend much upwards. Hence, I feel that He is more of Trivikrama. It is said "Kalou Venkata Nayakasya". There is a similar saying about vinayaka, who is represented by Ketu+Jupiter. Since, the Lord is posited in Varaha khestra and the sway of the Lord is supposed to last till the end of Sweta Varaha kalpa, I think the Lord is that form of Jupiter (maraka for the signs of saturn), who alone can counter the all pervasive influence of Kali (Capricorn/Saturn/Rahu). Hair = false ego (Saturn/rahu) is symbolically sacrificed in front of Him, so it is a sort of re-enactment of Vamana & Bali episode. Annamayya often refers to the Lord as guru and eulogises His feet in his sankeertanas and i am sure our Telugu friends can vouch for this. Sravana nakshatra is ruled by Vishnu and is a very special nakshatra. As far as I know, Goddess Saraswathi was born in Moola nakshatra, thus Saraswathi pooja is held on moola nakshatra day during Dassera Regards, Lakshmi P.S: I did know the meaning of "adios" when I said it and I had no doubt that Sanjayji knew it also. But i have to give guru dakshina first. vedic astrology, Hari M <onlyhari> wrote: > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > Dear Lakshmi, > > Namaste. > > [sanjayji also opines that He represents the Vamana Avatar ( born in Sravana nakshatra like Sri Vamana )…in astro-lingo, Jupiter!] > > Are you sure about this? Sanjay told me and also has written in the latest issue of Jyotish Digest (on the swearing-in chart of the Prime minister) that Lord Srinivasa represents Rahu and therefore Varaha avatar. > > About Sravana nakshatra, I have been pondering on this for quite sometime and the root of this thinking lies in the observation that {my} atmakaraka (Mars) and Rahu are both posited in Sravana nakshatra...I read that one of the deities for Sravana nakshatra is Goddess Saraswathi and I was born on Saraswathi Pooja day. Is this a mere coincidence? This is what I have been trying to understand the spiritual dimensions of this observation...Narasimha opined (and I accept) that {my} istadevata is Srinivasa & PadmaLakshmi. Again this Rahu connection! > > I think that you have my chart and so I request you to comment on the spiritual dimensions of this observation...I have recently read your mails on Vishnu Purana in the forum and I wonder if you knew that 'Adios' is spanish for good bye...Sanjay must have read quite a few western novels! > > regards > Hari > > > > > Mail – CNET Editors' Choice 2004. Tell them what you think. a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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