anyone have the birth data for John Wayne Bobbit

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Hare Krishna

Dear friends,

Following the discussion.

Does anyone have the birth data of John Wayne Bobbit?

All the best

Lakshmi

 

 

y, "Sarbani Sarkar" <sarbani@s...> wrote:

> Dear Narasimha,

>

>

>

> I do not wish to butt into a discussion among gurus but if I

recollect

> correctly, what Sanjayji was trying to tell us at that point is

that Libra

> represents the visible organs of the pelvic region. This includes

the

> clitoris (excretory (urinary) organ) and the phallus (excretory

(urinary)

> and reproductive organ). Scorpio represents the organs which are not

> visible, rather they are hidden…or that they ought to be hidden.

These

> include the anus (excretory organ), vagina (reproductive organ) and

the

> testicles (reproductive organs). The phallus is primarily

excretory,

> sometimes used for discharging seminal fluid; the testicles are on

the other

> hand purely reproductive organs. So the classification is more on

the lines

> of visibility/hiding/enshrouding. Scorpio hides both reproductive

and

> excretory organs. This is as far as I understood.

>

>

>

> Best regards,

>

>

>

> Sarbani

>

_____

>

> Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [pvr@c...]

> Wednesday, June 16, 2004 9:35 AM

> Vedic Astrology Group

> [vedic astrology] More on Scorpio and Guhya

>

>

>

> Namaste Visti,

>

>

>

> > Dear Chandrashekhar and Narasimha, Namaskar

> > The highlighted portion about people's minds was not meant for

you, but

> all

> > the other translators of the word Guhya in the classical books.

I'm sorry

> if

> > you took this phrase wrongly upon you.

>

>

>

> Well, thanks for the clarification. But I am even more offended now.

>

>

>

> It is well within your right to believe in what you *think* your

guru taught

> you. But, you have no business speculating about the mindsets of

people who

> translate otherwise. Scholars translated Guhya the way they did

because it

> is the only correct way and because other classics used far less

ambiguous

> words to make things clearer. They did so for valid and intelligent

reasons.

> It is certainly not because their "mind is on sex" as your slur

says. Your

> phrase is offensive even if it was not meant for Chandrashekhar ji

and me.

>

>

>

> For example, the great Dr. B. Suryanarain Row (grandfather of Dr.

Raman)

> associated the term "sexual organs" with Scorpio in his

translations of

> Brihajjatakam and Sarvartha Chintamani. In fact, this is the

standard view

> of most scholars. If you disagree with them, do so respectfully.

There is no

> need for arrogant slurs.

>

>

> > Now keep in mind that I did not come up with this idea - This is

the

> > explanation given to me by Guruji, here goes; Guhya means hidden

and

> refers

> > to those parts of the body which one cannot see - not those one

should

> hide.

> > If you stand up straight and look at the mirror the genitals will

be

> > perfectly visible, however the anus will not and is hidden by the

> buttocks.

> > This is what is meant by hidden.

>

>

>

> In Sanskrit, the suffixes -ya and -ta are different. Looks like

you do

> not understand the difference between them. For example, pooj

means "to pray

> to". Poojita means "prayed to". OTOH, "poojya" means "prayable"

or "one who

> is worthy of being prayed to". Similarly, laksh means "to view".

Lakshita

> means "viewed". Lakshya means "one that is worthy of being viewed".

That is

> why lakshya means target. Sish means "to refine, discipline and

culture".

> Sishta means a cultured person (i.e. one who has been refined and

cultured).

> OTOH, sishya means one who needs to be refined and cultured. That

is why

> sishya means a student. Similarly, gupta means hidden (e.g. gupta

> dhana=hidden treasure). But guhya means one that needs to be

hidden. In

> mantras, secretive mantras that need to be hidden are said to

be "guhyam".

> Anyone who knows Sanskrit well will know that gupta means hidden

and guhya

> means "one that needs to be hidden".

>

>

>

> So guhyas are not parts that you cannot see in the mirror or

something like

> that. They are parts that need to be hidden. Basically they are the

> secretive parts of the body (that is why Jataka Parijatam uses the

term

> "rahasya desa" (secret area) instead of Guhya).

>

>

>

> Even if you disagree, please see my earlier quotes from other

classics which

> are far less ambiguous. Other scholars such as Varahamihira,

Kalyana Verma

> and Mantreswara used clearer words in the place of Guhya. If one

looks at

> all the classics, all doubts should be cleared.

>

>

>

> > Libra is the natural 7th house and deals

>

> > with mating, and this being for the sake of producing children.

> >

> > Now I never said that Päräçara said this, I said my Guruji said

this. Take

> > it or leave it.

>

>

>

> Visti, had you said just that, it would've been a perfectly

acceptable

> stand. But there is a huge difference between following one's guru

and

> *insulting* other great scholars. You have made great contributions

to this

> list, including the recent postings on celibacy. But slurs on

scholars such

> as this "mind on sex" thing are unbecoming of you. Please control

yourself

> in future. You have been such a great contributor and I do not want

to

> punish you. I do not even want to have to warn you again. Please co-

operate.

>

>

>

> Also, kindly make sure that you are not misrepresenting your guru

here. I

> say it especially because all the classics are in agreement on

Scorpio and

> you are contradicting all of them in the name of your guru (who is

my guru

> too)!

>

>

>

> Libra does represent the pelival region that includes some body

parts that

> are important for sexual activity, but the classics are clear in

saying that

> genitals themselves are represented by Scorpio and not Libra.

>

>

> > As for celibacy, I have AGAIN quoted my Guruji. The rest is up to

you.

>

>

>

> I have no complaints with you in that matter! :-)

>

>

>

> Role of Mars in celibabcy (or lack of it) is quite complicated and

> dualistic.

>

>

>

> For example, Parasara and Jaimini both taught that Venus and Mars

in 2nd

> from swamsa make one very licentious in sexual matters. This is the

opposite

> of celibabcy! At the same time, Mars rules over Brahmacharyashrama.

He has a

> dual role to play and various scholars, including you, have pointed

out

> various factors very nicely. It was a nice discussion. Keep it up!

>

>

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

>

> Narasimha

>

>

> > Monier Williams gives the following for Basti (vasti);

> > lower belly , abdomen VarBr2S. Ka1s3i1Kh. the pelvis MW.

>

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> > visti@s...

> >

> >

> > Chandrashekhar [boxdel]

> > 14 June 2004 23:05

> > Visti @ Denmark

> > Cc: vedic astrology

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Mars.... is he really karaka

for

> celebecy

> > ? To Sjt.Visti Larsen

> >

> > Dear Visti,

> > You wrote" As for sexual organs, Scorpio represents the private

parts...

> > this is not

> > the sexual organs but the anus, which is hidden and hence

private -* when

> > ones mind is on sex then even private parts become sexual organs!*

> > Now I quote Guruji and again state; the 8th house indicates the

Anus (it

> is

> > private because it is hidden) whilst the 7th house shows the

reproductive

> > organs."

> > Your statement which I have made in bold types is utterly

uncalled for

> > and crosses the boundaries of decency.Desist from such comments

in

> > future.They are not in good taste.

> > As to what is 8th house, I wish some body takes pains to read

BPHS

> > Chapter 4 and Shloka3 and 4 before attributing something to

Parashara.I

> > would like to know what is your English translation of Sanskrit

word

> > Basti and Guhya that are said to be the body parts of Kalapurusha

> > represented by Tula and Vrishchika rasi by the Venerated Sage.

> > Perhaps I am not as good at English as others, but I do not think

that

> > Private parts does not refer to sexual organs.Perhaps some

gentleman

> > having good command over English language would like to comment.

As for

> > Deha-vivar, the hole you are reffering to, do I really need to

teach

> > anatomy on the list? Please check up the meaning of Navadwara.

> > Regards,

> > Chandrashekhar.

>

>

>

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