Pt. Rath & other Astrologers... My 2 cents worth.

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. Poolaat,

 

Knowledge of self is very limited . But simple principles read in

simple manner give true picture.

 

Only thing that self always considers in win/lose contests or

elections is,Take 1st house and 6th house as two contestants.

(7th house may be considered as opposition but it does not apply in

contests )

 

One must take contestants as enemies.

Hence take 6th lord as opposit of 1st lord.

Now see if 1st house has more number of Natural Krura planets like

Mars, Saturn Rahu Sun etc.

If Lagna has them and 6th lord is either Shubha graha or 6th lord is

weak etc, or if 6th house is rendered powerless by papakartari yoga

etc , then the candidate signifying Lagna will win.

 

1st case,

 

Lets take the case of REPUBLICAN NOMINATION CHART as displayed in the

above mentioned article, you will note that Lagna has Rahu and Moon

whereas 6th house is occupied by Guru which is rendered weak by

Papakartari yoga.This much is enough to indicate Democrat candidate

will lose.Hence Bush won the election.

 

2nd case of 2001 election,

 

2000 TP chart clearly shows 6th house is more powerful than

ascendent . Saturn and Jupiter are in 6th and Lagna is having no

planets. Lagna lord is in 6th with Saturn. 6th lord venus is with

Sun, Mercury and Mars, thus Bush had an upper hand . So Democrats

were pushed out at the end from white house.

 

3rd case

 

Take 1996 election.

Apply the rule and you will notice that Lagna has Mars and is fully

aspected by Saturn from 11th house.

6th lord Venus has surrendered in Lagna . 6th house has no planets .

Sitting president Bill clinton won the re-election easily.

 

Do one needs to prove this more?

 

If Gurus have suggestions/corrections , please correct the

undersigned.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "poolaat" <poolaat>

wrote:

>

> Dear astrologers,

>

> Could anybody share his view points as what is the wrong in the

> following prediction:

>

> http://parasara.blogspot.com/

>

> Really the approach of prediction in the above is new and very

> impressive.Please treat this for learning , not for any criticisims.

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Poolaat.

[Guest guest]

Namaste Sir,

 

IMHO, your interpretation of US annual charts is not logical at all. In

natal/annual charts of individuals (e.g. competing politicians), 1st shows the

native and 6th shows the rival. That is perfect. However, in the chart of the

nation itself, the 1st house shows the entire nation and the 6th house shows

the rivals/enemies of the nation. Using the 1st and 6th for the rulers and the

opposition is not at all logical. A nation and its leader are different. US

annual chart belongs to the nation and not just to its leader.

 

Application of 1st/6th criterion to the Republican nomination chart is fine.

But, applying it to the annual charts of USA is not logical.

 

The criterion used by Sanjay ji (10th showing rulers and 3rd showing opposition)

is quite logical in mundane astrology.

 

However, I am not 100% sure if houses should be seen or if graha arudhas of

those house lords would be more appropriate. The 10th house shows the overall

administration experienced by the nation. The 10th lord shows the application

of intelligence towards that end. Always, houses are inanimate and house lords

are animate. House lords show the animated life force (or engine) driving the

matters of a house. Arudhas of house lords show the tangible manifestation of

the driving force, i.e. real people in flesh. If the 10th house in an annual

chart of a nation is bad, administration in a year is poor. If the 10th lord is

bad, the thinking and attitude of the administration is poor. If the graha

arudha of 10th lord is afflicted, it is bad for the ruler(s).

 

Arudhas are always tangible things. Arudhas of houses are tangible inanimate

things (e.g. A5 can be an award). Arudhas of house lords are tangible animated

things (i.e. persons).

 

In any case, I must make one very basic point regarding the original question

raised. With due respect to Sanjay ji and others involved in this discussion, I

must point out the data used is extremely suspect. Do you honestly think that

the USA chart used is correct? God knows. There are so many versions. Sanjay ji

himself earlier talked about a mundane chart becoming invalid after 144 years

and used the 1920 chart (cast after 144 years from 1776) for timing the Iraq

war. God knows why he still uses the 1776 chart for TP. This whole approach he

outlined in the article quoted is interesting, but there are too many questions

regarding it.

 

In general, it is wise to use data that we are confident of. This includes natal

charts of leaders, nomination acceptance charts, lunar/solar new year charts

and lunar/solar eclipse charts. Independence charts of nations are usually

suspect. USA chart is the worst (i.e. most controversial) in that respect.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

 

> Dear Mr. Poolaat,> > Knowledge of self is very limited . But simple principles

read in > simple manner give true picture.> > Only thing that self always

considers in win/lose contests or > elections is,Take 1st house and 6th house

as two contestants.> (7th house may be considered as opposition but it does not

apply in > contests )> > One must take contestants as enemies.> Hence take 6th

lord as opposit of 1st lord.> Now see if 1st house has more number of Natural

Krura planets like > Mars, Saturn Rahu Sun etc.> If Lagna has them and 6th lord

is either Shubha graha or 6th lord is > weak etc, or if 6th house is rendered

powerless by papakartari yoga > etc , then the candidate signifying Lagna will

win.> > 1st case,> > Lets take the case of REPUBLICAN NOMINATION CHART as

displayed in the > above mentioned article, you will note that Lagna has Rahu

and Moon > whereas 6th house is occupied by Guru which is rendered weak by >

Papakartari yoga.This much is enough to indicate Democrat candidate > will

lose.Hence Bush won the election.> > 2nd case of 2001 election,> > 2000 TP

chart clearly shows 6th house is more powerful than > ascendent . Saturn and

Jupiter are in 6th and Lagna is having no > planets. Lagna lord is in 6th with

Saturn. 6th lord venus is with > Sun, Mercury and Mars, thus Bush had an upper

hand . So Democrats > were pushed out at the end from white house.> > 3rd case>

> Take 1996 election.> Apply the rule and you will notice that Lagna has Mars

and is fully > aspected by Saturn from 11th house.> 6th lord Venus has

surrendered in Lagna . 6th house has no planets . > Sitting president Bill

clinton won the re-election easily.> > Do one needs to prove this more?> > If

Gurus have suggestions/corrections , please correct the > undersigned.> >

Tatvam-Asi> > > Dear astrologers,> > > > Could anybody share his view points as

what is the wrong in the> > following prediction:> > > >

http://parasara.blogspot.com/> > > > Really the approach of prediction in the

above is new and very> > impressive.Please treat this for learning , not for

any criticisims.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > Poolaat.