Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Yes, you have correctly described a Kala-amrita Yoga where the planets are moving towards Ketu. From what i remember, breakage occurs only if there is a planet conjoining Rahu or Ketu, which does not appear to be the case. However since Ketu and Rahu are in movable signs, it seems much milder than if it were fixed or common signs. Also, since the 10th house's 2nd house argala (11th house from lagna) is being blocked by Rahu's Virodh-argala from the 12th (from the 10th house), check and see who wins. If Rahu's virodh argala wins, there is an even stronger influence of the nodes on the 10th house. Hope this helps and hope the gurus are overseeing whatever i write. Regards, - Jaivenkatarama_sastry <venkatarama_sastry > wrote: Dear friends,I know that KSY and KAY have been discussed multiple times before, and I tried to find the answer to my question in the archieves, but was unsuccessful in grasping a fundamental concept. Could someone set me straight on this doubt? I am looking at a chart with Taurus Lagna, with Ketu in 3rd and Rahu in 9th, and all the planets in houses 2, 10 and 11. So, in effect, they are between Rahu and Ketu, starting from Rahu and going towards Ketu. Is this KAY, since they are all moving towards Ketu? If so, is the age that this breaks, 42 or 45? Will strengtheing the nodes help or hurt in the case of KSY or KAY? I guess the reason for my confusion is the backwards movement of Rahu and Ketu, and I am not sure if I should take that into account in any way....Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Sincerely,Venkatarama------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Companion Toolbar.Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free!http://us.click./L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/.8XolB/TM--~-> Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:vedic astrology/<*> To from this group, send an email to:vedic astrology<*> Your use of is subject to:om tat sat Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Om Krishna Guru Dear Venkatrama As you have described it is a KAY. As there are no planets conjoining Rahu or Ketu or there are no Natural Benefics in the Lagna or the 7th house, this yoga will continue till the naural age of Ketu. Do not strengthen the nodes, already the effects are going to be extreme! Rahu is in marana karaka avastha. Did you give the birth details in an earlier mail? regards viswanadham > venkatarama_sastry <venkatarama_sastry> wrote: > Dear friends, > > I know that KSY and KAY have been discussed multiple times before, > and I tried to find the answer to my question in the archieves, but > was unsuccessful in grasping a fundamental concept. Could someone > set me straight on this doubt? > > I am looking at a chart with Taurus Lagna, with Ketu in 3rd and Rahu > in 9th, and all the planets in houses 2, 10 and 11. So, in effect, > they are between Rahu and Ketu, starting from Rahu and going towards > Ketu. Is this KAY, since they are all moving towards Ketu? If so, is > the age that this breaks, 42 or 45? Will strengtheing the nodes help > or hurt in the case of KSY or KAY? I guess the reason for my > confusion is the backwards movement of Rahu and Ketu, and I am not > sure if I should take that into account in any way.... > > Thanks for sharing your knowledge. > Sincerely, > Venkatarama > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > Links om tat sat > > > > > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 dear group, let us suppose that i chant the navgrha mantra everyday. now it contains the mantras off all the planet.so is it that some of them will strenthen a particular planet like rahu in the below case and cause harm. my friend chants the mantra of dasam mahavidya each of the 10 mantra 108 times. so is it that some of them will harm him.how do we know which mantra is suitable or harmful. JP --- vishwanatham <vishwanatham wrote: > > Om Krishna Guru > > Dear Venkatrama > > As you have described it is a KAY. As there are no > planets conjoining > Rahu or Ketu or there are no Natural Benefics in the > Lagna or the 7th > house, this yoga will continue till the naural age > of Ketu. > > Do not strengthen the nodes, already the effects are > going to be > extreme! Rahu is in marana karaka avastha. Did you > give the birth > details in an earlier mail? > > regards > viswanadham > > > venkatarama_sastry <venkatarama_sastry> > wrote: > > Dear friends, > > > > I know that KSY and KAY have been discussed > multiple times before, > > and I tried to find the answer to my question in > the archieves, but > > was unsuccessful in grasping a fundamental > concept. Could someone > > set me straight on this doubt? > > > > I am looking at a chart with Taurus Lagna, with > Ketu in 3rd and > Rahu > > in 9th, and all the planets in houses 2, 10 and > 11. So, in effect, > > they are between Rahu and Ketu, starting from Rahu > and going > towards > > Ketu. Is this KAY, since they are all moving > towards Ketu? If so, > is > > the age that this breaks, 42 or 45? Will > strengtheing the nodes > help > > or hurt in the case of KSY or KAY? I guess the > reason for my > > confusion is the backwards movement of Rahu and > Ketu, and I am not > > sure if I should take that into account in any > way.... > > > > Thanks for sharing your knowledge. > > Sincerely, > > Venkatarama > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om tat sat > > > > > > > > > > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger > > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger. http://messenger./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 Dear JP, In the following case, strengthening was used as it were by using Gems. Mantras & stotras are used to appease the planets. It is a separate issue that some mantras may not be suitable for all. regards viswanadhamJatin Prakash <jatinprakash > wrote: dear group,let us suppose that i chant the navgrhamantra everyday. now it contains the mantras off allthe planet.so is it that some of them will strenthen aparticular planet like rahu in the below case andcause harm. my friend chants the mantra of dasammahavidyaeach of the 10 mantra 108 times. so is it that some ofthem will harm him.how do we know which mantra issuitable or harmful.JP --- vishwanatham wrote:> > Om Krishna Guru> > Dear Venkatrama> > As you have described it is a KAY. As there are no> planets conjoining > Rahu or Ketu or there are no Natural Benefics in the> Lagna or the 7th > house, this yoga will continue till the naural age> of Ketu.> > Do not strengthen the nodes, already the effects are> going to be > extreme! Rahu is in marana karaka avastha. Did you> give the birth > details in an earlier mail?> > regards> viswanadham> > > venkatarama_sastry > wrote:> > Dear friends,> > > > I know that KSY and KAY have been discussed> multiple times before, > > and I tried to find the answer to my question in> the archieves, but > > was unsuccessful in grasping a fundamental> concept. Could someone > > set me straight on this doubt? > > > > I am looking at a chart with Taurus Lagna, with> Ketu in 3rd and > Rahu > > in 9th, and all the planets in houses 2, 10 and> 11. So, in effect, > > they are between Rahu and Ketu, starting from Rahu> and going > towards > > Ketu. Is this KAY, since they are all moving> towards Ketu? If so, > is > > the age that this breaks, 42 or 45? Will> strengtheing the nodes > help > > or hurt in the case of KSY or KAY? I guess the> reason for my > > confusion is the backwards movement of Rahu and> Ketu, and I am not > > sure if I should take that into account in any> way....> > > > Thanks for sharing your knowledge. > > Sincerely,> > Venkatarama> > > > > > > > > > Archives:> vedic astrology> > > > Group info:>vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Links> > > > > > > > > > > > > > om tat sat> > > > > > > > > > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger> > Do you ?Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger.http://messenger./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 Dear friends, Thank you for all your kindness in clarifying my doubt. I really appreciate all of your help. Since the nodes move backwards all the time, I get a little mixed up with them! Viswanadham Garu, I don't have the birth details, this is a paper chart of a friend, sorry. Also, I am not even sure if Rahu is alone in the 9th. Mars and Saturn are marked between 9th and 10th. If those two were indeed in the 9th, it would break the yoga, so there is no issue.(For completeness, here are the other planets, Venus is in 10th, Sun in 11th, Me in 12th and Ju and Moon in 2nd, with Ketu in 3rd.) Thanks for the advise to not strengthen the nodes, and for drawing the distinction between gemstones and mantras/stotras. No, I was not thinking of gemstones, my personal belief and experience has been that mantras and stotras work, and I am sticking to that. I was wondering if prayer to Ganesha and Kanakadurga will help her, that was why I asked. Maybe prayer to Mars and Saturn, (or the Gods they represent) since they are breaking the yoga? Saturn is already strong in Capricorn anyway. Let me ask, Rao garu, you mentioned that benefics conjoining the nodes will break the yoga, is this true if malefics conjoin too? What can be done about the maraka karaka avastha of Rahuvu? Thanks, Venkatarama vedic astrology, H S Viswanadham <vishwanatham@r...> wrote: > Om Krishna Guru > > Dear JP, > > In the following case, strengthening was used as it were by using Gems. Mantras & stotras are used to appease the planets. It is a separate issue that some mantras may not be suitable for all. > > regards > viswanadham > > Jatin Prakash <jatinprakash> wrote: > dear group, > let us suppose that i chant the navgrha > mantra everyday. now it contains the mantras off all > the planet.so is it that some of them will strenthen a > particular planet like rahu in the below case and > cause harm. my friend chants the mantra of dasam > mahavidya > each of the 10 mantra 108 times. so is it that some of > them will harm him.how do we know which mantra is > suitable or harmful. > JP > --- vishwanatham wrote: > > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > Dear Venkatrama > > > > As you have described it is a KAY. As there are no > > planets conjoining > > Rahu or Ketu or there are no Natural Benefics in the > > Lagna or the 7th > > house, this yoga will continue till the naural age > > of Ketu. > > > > Do not strengthen the nodes, already the effects are > > going to be > > extreme! Rahu is in marana karaka avastha. Did you > > give the birth > > details in an earlier mail? > > > > regards > > viswanadham > > > > > venkatarama_sastry > > wrote: > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > I know that KSY and KAY have been discussed > > multiple times before, > > > and I tried to find the answer to my question in > > the archieves, but > > > was unsuccessful in grasping a fundamental > > concept. Could someone > > > set me straight on this doubt? > > > > > > I am looking at a chart with Taurus Lagna, with > > Ketu in 3rd and > > Rahu > > > in 9th, and all the planets in houses 2, 10 and > > 11. So, in effect, > > > they are between Rahu and Ketu, starting from Rahu > > and going > > towards > > > Ketu. Is this KAY, since they are all moving > > towards Ketu? If so, > > is > > > the age that this breaks, 42 or 45? Will > > strengtheing the nodes > > help > > > or hurt in the case of KSY or KAY? I guess the > > reason for my > > > confusion is the backwards movement of Rahu and > > Ketu, and I am not > > > sure if I should take that into account in any > > way.... > > > > > > Thanks for sharing your knowledge. > > > Sincerely, > > > Venkatarama > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Group info: > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om tat sat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger. > http://messenger./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2004 Report Share Posted June 5, 2004 Om Krishna Guru Dear Venkatrama, There is no way to find out the AK of this chart? For appeasing Rahu, reading first chapter of Durga Saptasati is good. Hope this helps. regards viswanadham vedic astrology, "venkatarama_sastry" <venkatarama_sastry> wrote: > Dear friends, > > Thank you for all your kindness in clarifying my doubt. I really > appreciate all of your help. Since the nodes move backwards all the > time, I get a little mixed up with them! > > Viswanadham Garu, I don't have the birth details, this is a paper > chart of a friend, sorry. Also, I am not even sure if Rahu is alone > in the 9th. Mars and Saturn are marked between 9th and 10th. If > those two were indeed in the 9th, it would break the yoga, so there > is no issue.(For completeness, here are the other planets, Venus is > in 10th, Sun in 11th, Me in 12th and Ju and Moon in 2nd, with Ketu > in 3rd.) > > Thanks for the advise to not strengthen the nodes, and for drawing > the distinction between gemstones and mantras/stotras. No, I was not > thinking of gemstones, my personal belief and experience has been > that mantras and stotras work, and I am sticking to that. I was > wondering if prayer to Ganesha and Kanakadurga will help her, that > was why I asked. Maybe prayer to Mars and Saturn, (or the Gods they > represent) since they are breaking the yoga? Saturn is already > strong in Capricorn anyway. Let me ask, Rao garu, you mentioned that > benefics conjoining the nodes will break the yoga, is this true if > malefics conjoin too? > > What can be done about the maraka karaka avastha of Rahuvu? > > Thanks, > Venkatarama > > vedic astrology, H S Viswanadham > <vishwanatham@r...> wrote: > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > Dear JP, > > > > In the following case, strengthening was used as it were by using > Gems. Mantras & stotras are used to appease the planets. It is a > separate issue that some mantras may not be suitable for all. > > > > regards > > viswanadham > > > > Jatin Prakash <jatinprakash> wrote: > > dear group, > > let us suppose that i chant the navgrha > > mantra everyday. now it contains the mantras off all > > the planet.so is it that some of them will strenthen a > > particular planet like rahu in the below case and > > cause harm. my friend chants the mantra of dasam > > mahavidya > > each of the 10 mantra 108 times. so is it that some of > > them will harm him.how do we know which mantra is > > suitable or harmful. > > JP > > --- vishwanatham wrote: > > > > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > > > Dear Venkatrama > > > > > > As you have described it is a KAY. As there are no > > > planets conjoining > > > Rahu or Ketu or there are no Natural Benefics in the > > > Lagna or the 7th > > > house, this yoga will continue till the naural age > > > of Ketu. > > > > > > Do not strengthen the nodes, already the effects are > > > going to be > > > extreme! Rahu is in marana karaka avastha. Did you > > > give the birth > > > details in an earlier mail? > > > > > > regards > > > viswanadham > > > > > > > venkatarama_sastry > > > wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > I know that KSY and KAY have been discussed > > > multiple times before, > > > > and I tried to find the answer to my question in > > > the archieves, but > > > > was unsuccessful in grasping a fundamental > > > concept. Could someone > > > > set me straight on this doubt? > > > > > > > > I am looking at a chart with Taurus Lagna, with > > > Ketu in 3rd and > > > Rahu > > > > in 9th, and all the planets in houses 2, 10 and > > > 11. So, in effect, > > > > they are between Rahu and Ketu, starting from Rahu > > > and going > > > towards > > > > Ketu. Is this KAY, since they are all moving > > > towards Ketu? If so, > > > is > > > > the age that this breaks, 42 or 45? Will > > > strengtheing the nodes > > > help > > > > or hurt in the case of KSY or KAY? I guess the > > > reason for my > > > > confusion is the backwards movement of Rahu and > > > Ketu, and I am not > > > > sure if I should take that into account in any > > > way.... > > > > > > > > Thanks for sharing your knowledge. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Venkatarama > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > Group info: > > > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om tat sat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger. > > http://messenger./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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