Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 Dear Shri Pasupulati Jupiter also represents fat.When fat is not properly broken down (when one is idle) it can also lead to unfulfilled lust.As Hamsa is Swan ,swimming and playing in water is understandable.Though present in all cases, this may be more pronounced in watery signs. Though not mentioned here, Jupiter rules the natural 9th ,the house of dharma, Sagittarius.Thus being Just is inherent. For establishment of dharma, peaceful disposition may not be efficient always.Discretion to use what and where is important.When one suffers a lot because of peaceful disposition, one may understand and gain the practical discretion, needed. Now as learned members have pointed out ,there are other overall factors combined with strength of yoga forming planet to judge the final. Thanks Pradeep vedic astrology, "plnlu2001" <plnlu2001> wrote: > > Dear members, > > Pancha mahapurusha yoga is not an infrequent yoga. But in many > cases we see that the persons lead ordinary life. Somewhere I read > that a Panchamahapurusha yoga becomes defunct or gets toned down if > the planet causing the yoga is with or aspected by the nodes or > Saturn or 8th lord. In essence, like many other yogas, the > panchamahapurusha yoga manifests fully or partially depending on the > dignity and strength of the planet causing the yoga, and the <a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=lord%20of" onmouseover="window.status='lord of'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">lord of</a> > the house. My copy of Brihat Parasara Hora, translated by sri. G.S. > Kapoor says the following about Hamsa Yoga: > > The Hamsa native has voice like a hamsa (swan), has a handsome > appearance and well developed nose. He is a king with phlegmatic > temparament, honey like tawny coloured eyes, red coloured nails, > sharp intelligence, sturdy cheeks, round forehead and beautiful > feet. He has marks of matsya(fish), ankush(iron hook), dhanus (bow), > sankh(conch), kamal(lotus) in his hands and feet. He is very > passionate and his lust remains unfulfilled. He is 96 anguls in > height. He is fond of swimming and playing games in watery places. > He enjoys life fully and as a ruler of land situated between the > Ganga and Yamuna dies after attaining the age of 100 years. > > In the above description, we do not find anywhere qualities > like broadmindedness, being just, honoring elders, saints, being > dharmic, characteristics of jupiter. On the other hand we see the > person is very passionate and lustful which is the very anti thesis > of Jupiter the planet of divine wisdom. The <a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=bottom%20line" onmouseover="window.status='bottom line'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">bottom line</a> is > Jayalalitha's hamsa yoga need not make her a person who upholds > dharma in letter and spirit. > > Jupiter is not considered an auspicious planet for Gemini > ascendant. As pointed out by other learned members, Jupiter suffers > from Kendradhipatya dosha and being staioned in 7th is a potent > maraka. He is aspected by rahu from Aries. Unfortunately, seventh > house is the badhakastana for Gemini lagna and jupiter being badhaka > is stationed in bhadhaka house. May be it prevented her from getting > married. My understanding is badhaka lord, planets with it and the > planets in badhaka house indicate the obstructions caused by > previous birth sins. Jupiter's situation as badhaka in badhakasthana > may show dishonoring or causing trouble to elders,saints, religious > institutions, spouse in previous birth. > > The 10th house (karmasthan) which represents the work/public > work and fame, no doubt has exalted Venus causing Malavya yoga but > it is sandwiched on one side by Sun and on the other side by Rahu. > When the 10th house has papakarthari, one can not expect the person > to perform good karma. Moreover 10th house and Venus are aspected by > Mars which can make the person very aggreesive and proactive in > action. > > Time and again, she humilated, insulted and harassed almost > every one who crossed her path or criticized her. People may still > remember how she humiliated Sri. Vajpayee during 1998-1999. During > her second tunure of cheifministership, she jailed karunanidhi, and > put Vaiko behind bars and filed many cases against the news paper > The Hindu. In fact Tamil nadu police went to Bangalore to take the > editor of the paper N. Ram into custody without the knowledge of > Karnataka police. Only supreme court intervention saved the day and > the Central government provided CISF security to the news paper > because they were not sure of Tamil nadu police. > > During 1999 when trnsit Rahu was exactly on her natal saturn and > transit saturn was in Aries where natal Rahu is, after lot of drama, > she withdrew support to sri.Vajpayee and caused the 1999 elections. > Of course she lost her clout with central government. Now the > trnasit saturn has retrograded in Cancer where her natal saturn is > and transit rahu is in Aries where her natal rahu is. > > In Kanchi swami's horoscope, transit jupiter is in the 8th house > from moon. Moreover the October solar eclipse occured in Virgo > having transit jupiter, transit sun, transit venus and transit mars. > With so many planets in transit in the 8th house from moon and an > eclipse occuring there when Dasa and bhkthi are not very good can > cause lot of bad things. A clear picture about the murder may emerge > by the time jupiter leaves Virgo and the Kanchi seer may come out > unscathed. > > Transit saturn has become retrograde on the exact degree of > natal moon in Indian independence horoscope. The country no doubt is > having searing experiences. 30 years back, in 1975 when Saturn > entered Cancer emergency was imposed on the country. But Saturn > before leaving cancer, punished the rulers by defeating congress and > Mrs.Indira gandhi and heralding a <a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=new%20era" onmouseover="window.status='new era'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">new era</a>. For the first time in > post independence history, there was a non-congress government. I > only hope Saturn will punish the wrong doing rulers before he leaves > Cancer in 2006. > > Ravana was a great devotee of lord Shiva. He was also a great > musician who standardized veena and an expert in singing Sama veda. > He might have had some of these pancha mahapursha yogas, but that > did not make him a dharmic person. > > Dharmo Rakshathi rakshithiha > > Pasupulati. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 Dear Pradeep, If I may add, it could also relate to the fact of the person being a much moneyed man. You will find many Raj yogas including Bahudara indications, in the texts. The reason, I think, was that in those days a rich person was allowed to marry more than one woman and till recent past it was one of the signs of being Rich. Chandrashekhar. vijayadas_pradeep wrote: Dear Shri Pasupulati Jupiter also represents fat.When fat is not properly broken down (when one is idle) it can also lead to unfulfilled lust.As Hamsa is Swan ,swimming and playing in water is understandable.Though present in all cases, this may be more pronounced in watery signs. Though not mentioned here, Jupiter rules the natural 9th ,the house of dharma, Sagittarius.Thus being Just is inherent. For establishment of dharma, peaceful disposition may not be efficient always.Discretion to use what and where is important.When one suffers a lot because of peaceful disposition, one may understand and gain the practical discretion, needed. Now as learned members have pointed out ,there are other overall factors combined with strength of yoga forming planet to judge the final. Thanks Pradeep vedic astrology, "plnlu2001" <plnlu2001> wrote: > > Dear members, > > Pancha mahapurusha yoga is not an infrequent yoga. But in many > cases we see that the persons lead ordinary life. Somewhere I read > that a Panchamahapurusha yoga becomes defunct or gets toned down if > the planet causing the yoga is with or aspected by the nodes or > Saturn or 8th lord. In essence, like many other yogas, the > panchamahapurusha yoga manifests fully or partially depending on the > dignity and strength of the planet causing the yoga, and the <a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=lord%20of" onmouseover="window.status='lord of'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">lord of</a> > the house. My copy of Brihat Parasara Hora, translated by sri. G.S. > Kapoor says the following about Hamsa Yoga: > > The Hamsa native has voice like a hamsa (swan), has a handsome > appearance and well developed nose. He is a king with phlegmatic > temparament, honey like tawny coloured eyes, red coloured nails, > sharp intelligence, sturdy cheeks, round forehead and beautiful > feet. He has marks of matsya(fish), ankush(iron hook), dhanus (bow), > sankh(conch), kamal(lotus) in his hands and feet. He is very > passionate and his lust remains unfulfilled. He is 96 anguls in > height. He is fond of swimming and playing games in watery places. > He enjoys life fully and as a ruler of land situated between the > Ganga and Yamuna dies after attaining the age of 100 years. > > In the above description, we do not find anywhere qualities > like broadmindedness, being just, honoring elders, saints, being > dharmic, characteristics of jupiter. On the other hand we see the > person is very passionate and lustful which is the very anti thesis > of Jupiter the planet of divine wisdom. The <a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=bottom%20line" onmouseover="window.status='bottom line'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">bottom line</a> is > Jayalalitha's hamsa yoga need not make her a person who upholds > dharma in letter and spirit. > > Jupiter is not considered an auspicious planet for Gemini > ascendant. As pointed out by other learned members, Jupiter suffers > from Kendradhipatya dosha and being staioned in 7th is a potent > maraka. He is aspected by rahu from Aries. Unfortunately, seventh > house is the badhakastana for Gemini lagna and jupiter being badhaka > is stationed in bhadhaka house. May be it prevented her from getting > married. My understanding is badhaka lord, planets with it and the > planets in badhaka house indicate the obstructions caused by > previous birth sins. Jupiter's situation as badhaka in badhakasthana > may show dishonoring or causing trouble to elders,saints, religious > institutions, spouse in previous birth. > > The 10th house (karmasthan) which represents the work/public > work and fame, no doubt has exalted Venus causing Malavya yoga but > it is sandwiched on one side by Sun and on the other side by Rahu. > When the 10th house has papakarthari, one can not expect the person > to perform good karma. Moreover 10th house and Venus are aspected by > Mars which can make the person very aggreesive and proactive in > action. > > Time and again, she humilated, insulted and harassed almost > every one who crossed her path or criticized her. People may still > remember how she humiliated Sri. Vajpayee during 1998-1999. During > her second tunure of cheifministership, she jailed karunanidhi, and > put Vaiko behind bars and filed many cases against the news paper > The Hindu. In fact Tamil nadu police went to Bangalore to take the > editor of the paper N. Ram into custody without the knowledge of > Karnataka police. Only supreme court intervention saved the day and > the Central government provided CISF security to the news paper > because they were not sure of Tamil nadu police. > > During 1999 when trnsit Rahu was exactly on her natal saturn and > transit saturn was in Aries where natal Rahu is, after lot of drama, > she withdrew support to sri.Vajpayee and caused the 1999 elections. > Of course she lost her clout with central government. Now the > trnasit saturn has retrograded in Cancer where her natal saturn is > and transit rahu is in Aries where her natal rahu is. > > In Kanchi swami's horoscope, transit jupiter is in the 8th house > from moon. Moreover the October solar eclipse occured in Virgo > having transit jupiter, transit sun, transit venus and transit mars. > With so many planets in transit in the 8th house from moon and an > eclipse occuring there when Dasa and bhkthi are not very good can > cause lot of bad things. A clear picture about the murder may emerge > by the time jupiter leaves Virgo and the Kanchi seer may come out > unscathed. > > Transit saturn has become retrograde on the exact degree of > natal moon in Indian independence horoscope. The country no doubt is > having searing experiences. 30 years back, in 1975 when Saturn > entered Cancer emergency was imposed on the country. But Saturn > before leaving cancer, punished the rulers by defeating congress and > Mrs.Indira gandhi and heralding a <a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=new%20era" onmouseover="window.status='new era'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">new era</a>. For the first time in > post independence history, there was a non-congress government. I > only hope Saturn will punish the wrong doing rulers before he leaves > Cancer in 2006. > > Ravana was a great devotee of lord Shiva. He was also a great > musician who standardized veena and an expert in singing Sama veda. > He might have had some of these pancha mahapursha yogas, but that > did not make him a dharmic person. > > Dharmo Rakshathi rakshithiha > > Pasupulati. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 Dear Chandrashekhar ji Thanks for providing this information.In relation to this i think when lagna lord is in lagna, it may give (if other factors support) good health for the individual with Gods grace and hence the ability to earn more(because physical labour was predomininant).Thus in olden days this placement was considered to give multiple marriages.Is my assumption correct. Respect Pradeep vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Pradeep, > If I may add, it could also relate to the fact of the person being a > much moneyed man. You will find many Raj yogas including Bahudara > indications, in the texts. The reason, I think, was that in those days a > rich person was allowed to marry more than one woman and till recent > past it was one of the signs of being Rich. > Chandrashekhar. > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > Dear Shri Pasupulati > > > > Jupiter also represents fat.When fat is not properly broken down > > (when one is idle) it can also lead to unfulfilled lust.As Hamsa is > > Swan ,swimming and playing in water is understandable.Though present > > in all cases, this may be more pronounced in watery signs. > > > > Though not mentioned here, Jupiter rules the natural 9th ,the house > > of dharma, Sagittarius.Thus being Just is inherent. For > > establishment of dharma, peaceful disposition may not be efficient > > always.Discretion to use what and where is important.When one > > suffers a lot because of peaceful disposition, one may understand > > and gain the practical discretion, needed. > > > > Now as learned members have pointed out ,there are other overall > > factors combined with strength of yoga forming planet to judge the > > final. > > > > Thanks > > Pradeep > > > > vedic astrology, "plnlu2001" <plnlu2001> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > > > Pancha mahapurusha yoga is not an infrequent yoga. But in many > > > cases we see that the persons lead ordinary life. Somewhere I read > > > that a Panchamahapurusha yoga becomes defunct or gets toned down > > if > > > the planet causing the yoga is with or aspected by the nodes or > > > Saturn or 8th lord. In essence, like many other yogas, the > > > panchamahapurusha yoga manifests fully or partially depending on > > the > > > dignity and strength of the planet causing the yoga, and the <a > > href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=lord%20of > > <http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=lord%20of>" > > onmouseover="window.status='<a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=lord%20of" onmouseover="window.status='lord of'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">lord of</a>'; return true;" > > onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">lord of</a> > > > the house. My copy of Brihat Parasara Hora, translated by sri. > > G.S. > > > Kapoor says the following about Hamsa Yoga: > > > > > > The Hamsa native has voice like a hamsa (swan), has a handsome > > > appearance and well developed nose. He is a king with phlegmatic > > > temparament, honey like tawny coloured eyes, red coloured nails, > > > sharp intelligence, sturdy cheeks, round forehead and beautiful > > > feet. He has marks of matsya(fish), ankush(iron hook), dhanus > > (bow), > > > sankh(conch), kamal(lotus) in his hands and feet. He is very > > > passionate and his lust remains unfulfilled. He is 96 anguls in > > > height. He is fond of swimming and playing games in watery places. > > > He enjoys life fully and as a ruler of land situated between the > > > Ganga and Yamuna dies after attaining the age of 100 years. > > > > > > In the above description, we do not find anywhere qualities > > > like broadmindedness, being just, honoring elders, saints, being > > > dharmic, characteristics of jupiter. On the other hand we see the > > > person is very passionate and lustful which is the very anti > > thesis > > > of Jupiter the planet of divine wisdom. The <a > > href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=bottom% 20line > > <http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=bottom%20line>" > > onmouseover="window.status='<a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=bottom%20line" onmouseover="window.status='bottom line'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">bottom line</a>'; return true;" > > onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">bottom line</a> is > > > Jayalalitha's hamsa yoga need not make her a person who upholds > > > dharma in letter and spirit. > > > > > > Jupiter is not considered an auspicious planet for Gemini > > > ascendant. As pointed out by other learned members, Jupiter > > suffers > > > from Kendradhipatya dosha and being staioned in 7th is a potent > > > maraka. He is aspected by rahu from Aries. Unfortunately, seventh > > > house is the badhakastana for Gemini lagna and jupiter being > > badhaka > > > is stationed in bhadhaka house. May be it prevented her from > > getting > > > married. My understanding is badhaka lord, planets with it and the > > > planets in badhaka house indicate the obstructions caused by > > > previous birth sins. Jupiter's situation as badhaka in > > badhakasthana > > > may show dishonoring or causing trouble to elders,saints, > > religious > > > institutions, spouse in previous birth. > > > > > > The 10th house (karmasthan) which represents the work/public > > > work and fame, no doubt has exalted Venus causing Malavya yoga but > > > it is sandwiched on one side by Sun and on the other side by Rahu. > > > When the 10th house has papakarthari, one can not expect the > > person > > > to perform good karma. Moreover 10th house and Venus are aspected > > by > > > Mars which can make the person very aggreesive and proactive in > > > action. > > > > > > Time and again, she humilated, insulted and harassed almost > > > every one who crossed her path or criticized her. People may still > > > remember how she humiliated Sri. Vajpayee during 1998-1999. During > > > her second tunure of cheifministership, she jailed karunanidhi, > > and > > > put Vaiko behind bars and filed many cases against the news paper > > > The Hindu. In fact Tamil nadu police went to Bangalore to take the > > > editor of the paper N. Ram into custody without the knowledge of > > > Karnataka police. Only supreme court intervention saved the day > > and > > > the Central government provided CISF security to the news paper > > > because they were not sure of Tamil nadu police. > > > > > > During 1999 when trnsit Rahu was exactly on her natal saturn > > and > > > transit saturn was in Aries where natal Rahu is, after lot of > > drama, > > > she withdrew support to sri.Vajpayee and caused the 1999 > > elections. > > > Of course she lost her clout with central government. Now the > > > trnasit saturn has retrograded in Cancer where her natal saturn is > > > and transit rahu is in Aries where her natal rahu is. > > > > > > In Kanchi swami's horoscope, transit jupiter is in the 8th > > house > > > from moon. Moreover the October solar eclipse occured in Virgo > > > having transit jupiter, transit sun, transit venus and transit > > mars. > > > With so many planets in transit in the 8th house from moon and an > > > eclipse occuring there when Dasa and bhkthi are not very good can > > > cause lot of bad things. A clear picture about the murder may > > emerge > > > by the time jupiter leaves Virgo and the Kanchi seer may come out > > > unscathed. > > > > > > Transit saturn has become retrograde on the exact degree of > > > natal moon in Indian independence horoscope. The country no doubt > > is > > > having searing experiences. 30 years back, in 1975 when Saturn > > > entered Cancer emergency was imposed on the country. 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