Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 Gordon, I did a counterargument on 31st october Message no 45594 based on the Chaitra Shukla chart data. So far I have not seen your response. But I was unable to post it in the reply section as it kept getting lost. I tried unsuccessfully today again to reply and it says its done so but nothing gets posted. So I have to do it as a new post. Heres a copy of what I said previously (on 31st) : "10th house ruling government has Mars, yogakaraka for Leo ascendant strongly placed there, and theres a parivatana yoga between 9 and 10 giving strength to the President. Rahu also rules foreigners and kunalini. 10th lord Venus in a trine with rahu in fact becomes a rajayoga for success. Venus and Jupiter are both advisors of the zodiac and are in the rulers court as it were. Venus the atmakaraka of President Bush natally is also the atmakaraka in this chart and the ruler of the 10th house. Jupiter lends its support from the ascendant. Jupiter rules the 5th house of morality, and advisors, and the mentality of the ruler. 5th house being the inclination of the people to express their emotion, aspecting the 10th ruler, and also according to some (nadi) readings, retrograde jupiter also aspects from the preceding house, therefore it aspects the sun, moon and mercury, moon representint public opinion. The 4th house of opposition party is ruled by Mars, is aspected by Mars and has no other aspect. Mars aggressively occupies the 10th house. Scorpio is apt as its the sign of Kerrys natal ascendant. 11th house rules senators, and here we see debilitated Mercury ruler of 11th gone to the 8th and aspected by Saturn from the 11th house. The media is the 3rd house and has Ketu there, and the natural karaka is Mercury, which is debilitated, in the 8th and aspected by Saturn One could argue this suggests the latest situation of CBS news in regard to the forged memos, and the NYtimes/CBS for the story on the munitions. So from this point of view, one could argue for a win for President Bush from this chart. I hope that saved you from having to resort to making the counter argument yourself. ....." Dawn Woodhouse Heres your previous post: GWBrennan@a... Sat Oct 30, 2004 7:17 am Bush/Kerry Regarding the lively Bush/Kerry controversy. I have recently done a lot of research on the annual new year chart. It seems to me that there is a considerable degree of self-deception in trying to balance fine distinctions against fine distinctions in the charts of the candidates when it is not the whole picture anyway. This is a really major national and international event and mundane astrology can answer it. In fact it should be a recognized principle of astrology that when an event gets to the national level of importance then the annual chart for the nation will show what is happening. This could save astrologers with much better reputations than me from making complete fools of themselves and reducing the status of astrology by using methods which do not work because they do not address the crucial issue. Sanjay has recently written on this at http://parasara.blogspot.com/ using the Tithi Pravesha chart, one of the mundane methods, and has come out in favour of Kerry. The annual new year chart or Chaitra Shukla chart will show exactly what will happen and if you apply the appropriate dasha it will show when it will happen. Other people may be able to read this better than I can, and if I get this wrong it is not the fault of the chart, as it is accurate. The chart data is 20/3/2004 at 17.41.24 hrs in Washington DC Ascendant is Leo 29.43 degrees. The ascendant lord Sun - president - is weak due to the lagna and in the 8th and aspected by Saturn from divisive Gemini. He is with dark Moon representing public and they do not like what he is doing. Lord of the tenth, president, is with the evil-doer Rahu in the 9th (12th house of loss in relation to 10th). He is getting away with it thanks to Jupiter's aspect. Lord of 12th is also with the lord of the 1st along with debilitated lord of 11th, all not good news. Lord of 4th - domestic opposition - is in 10th of high office and lord of 9th is Mars, same as lord of 4th and might represent a senator going from the 9th Senate to the 10th White House. Saturn represents dissatisfied masses and he aspects the ascendant, the fifth of job loss and the lord of the 5th, and the ascendant Lord Sun. Using Shripati house calculation Saturn, the democrat, goes from 11th to 10th. Saturn also represents harsh judgement and forced decisions and I think it is possible that Kerry will get to the White House backed by a court decision made on behalf of the public. Either that or there is just a sudden rush for Kerry. Mars Dasha - compressed Vimshottari works on every chart I have tried - begins on 1st November and indicates both strife and victory for the opposition party, especially as Mars gives his results quickly. If anyone can read a Bush victory from this I would be delighted to hear the argument. Regards Gordon Brennan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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