Occupation

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Dear Krushna,

 

I too am struggling with what I should be doing for an occupation. I lost my

husband last year to cancer and since then I feel life is so valuable and

that we should make the most of what God has given us. I know we all have

certain gifts and I am trying to tap into that part of myself that I can

give back to others. Can you see anything for me? I am currently an

insurance underwriter, and although I make good money, it is not satisfying

me spiritually. My motivation is gone. I am only 31 years old and sometimes

I feel like I'm 80. My birth data is born at 12:44 a.m. New Brunswick, NJ on

April 7, 1970. Thank you for any input you may have.

 

Best regards,

 

Helena Sivak

 

 

>krushna jugalkalani <krushanain

>

>

> Occupation

>Tue, 15 May 2001 21:34:23 +0100 (BST)

>

>Dear Peterji, and other list members,

>

> You have given two charts for finding the

>suitable occupation for them.

>chart 1 D.O.B. 19th July 1992, B.Time 12:59:00 Pm (GMT

>+10 at Brisbane Astralia, 27S28, 153:E:02 , Ayanansha

>22:44:40 Ascendent 05:Sc:11, Sun 03:Ca:57, Moon

>21:Aq:14 .

>1) Tenth Lord from Lagna is Sun and in navamansha it

>is in Leo.so ruled by Sun.

>Now Jupiter is situated in 10th house, in navamansha

>Jupiter is in Virgo, so Mercury.

>10th lord from Sun is Mars in navamansha > in

>Capricorn so Saturn.

>10th lord from Moon is again Mars so again Satrun.

>So favorable planets are Sun, Mercury, and Saturn.

> Now points in 3:6:10th and 11th house are

>24:32:25:28, and same from Moon are 25:28:32:35

>From Moon the points are in rising order. In both case

>points in 12th house are less, so there will be saving

>from the income.

> Considering the brilliency of the person Only

>Moon is in sign ruled by Saturn in rashi chart.

>So the person is having common brilliency.

> The person may go for his own business, related

>to Sun, Saturn, and Mercury.

> Education which is not related to maths, will be

>suitable for him. Saturn is coming two times, So

>Poultry form or similar business and so education in

>similar line can be useful.

> Sun , Mercury and Saturn are having good points

>for maximum houses. Sun is weak for 4th house, Me for

>8th house, and Saturn is weak for 9th house.

> These houses are not related with one's business.

>So there will not be any problem.

> There can be so many other business can be

>suggested. It will depend on the surrounding and the

>customs of the person.

>

> 2nd chart I will give tommorow.

>krushna

>

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Dear List members,

The Points from Moon in 3:6:10th and 11 should be 32,25,32,31

Please correct it

krushna

 

, krushna jugalkalani

<krushanain> wrote:

> Dear Peterji, and other list members,

>

> You have given two charts for finding the

> suitable occupation for them.

> chart 1 D.O.B. 19th July 1992, B.Time 12:59:00 Pm (GMT

> +10 at Brisbane Astralia, 27S28, 153:E:02 , Ayanansha

> 22:44:40 Ascendent 05:Sc:11, Sun 03:Ca:57, Moon

> 21:Aq:14 .

> 1) Tenth Lord from Lagna is Sun and in navamansha it

> is in Leo.so ruled by Sun.

> Now Jupiter is situated in 10th house, in navamansha

> Jupiter is in Virgo, so Mercury.

> 10th lord from Sun is Mars in navamansha > in

> Capricorn so Saturn.

> 10th lord from Moon is again Mars so again Satrun.

> So favorable planets are Sun, Mercury, and Saturn.

> Now points in 3:6:10th and 11th house are

> 24:32:25:28, and same from Moon are 32:25:32:31 (corrected)

> From Moon the points are not ( corrected) in rising order. In both

case

> points in 12th house are less, so there will be saving

> from the income.

> Considering the brilliency of the person Only

> Moon is in sign ruled by Saturn in rashi chart.

> So the person is having common brilliency.

> The person may go for his own business, related

> to Sun, Saturn, and Mercury.

> Education which is not related to maths, will be

> suitable for him. Saturn is coming two times, So

> Poultry form or similar business and so education in

> similar line can be useful.

> Sun , Mercury and Saturn are having good points

> for maximum houses. Sun is weak for 4th house, Me for

> 8th house, and Saturn is weak for 9th house.

> These houses are not related with one's business.

> So there will not be any problem.

> There can be so many other business can be

> suggested. It will depend on the surrounding and the

> customs of the person.

>

> 2nd chart I will give tommorow.

> krushna

>

>

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Respected Krushna,

I have just discovered that one of the 2 charts I gave you for young boys

was incorrect ( fortunately it was the one I interpreted) so I have been

having a look at the correct chart for the younger of the 2 boys and have

several questions.

1) When we look at the 3,6,10,and 11 houses to see whether or not the person

could run his own businessm does it make any difference which of the

sequences, that is for the lagna, the Moon or the Sun gives a steady rising

set of numbers. If it does how does it alter the result. For example in this

case it is the Sun which has 24,29,34,37 for the 3,6,10,11 houses for the

lagna and Moon it is zig zag. Does it mean any difference in the result.

2)Looking at step 1 - the position in the navamsa of the lords of the 10th

from the lagna, Moon and Sun I get Mars, Saturn and Mercury. Saturn has less

points for 9 of the 12 houses therefore cannot be considered. Mars has less

points in the 5,7,and 12 houses while Mercury has less points for the

3,6,7,9,and 12 houses. Is Mercury strong enough to help Mars in the

selection of an occupation. For example Mars indicates military, blood,

metal work, machinery etc in occupations while Mercury signifies things like

communications, publishing, computer software and general business. Could

the occupation combine these two planets or is Mercury too weak to help.

3) Looking at the divisionals does it make any difference where Saturn is

the ruler, that is whather it is from the lagna, Moon or Sun and whether it

is the Navamsa, trimsmsa, or dreshkana. Also should we include the Rasi

among these. For example in the chart I am looking at the Sun is in

Capricorn which has Saturn as its Lord.

I think that is all for now.

Peter

Namaste

[Guest guest]

> Respected Krushna,

> I have just discovered that one of the 2 charts I gave you for young

> boys

> was incorrect

Dear Peter,

What is the correct data?

Sylvia

 

 

 

 

On Sat, 26 May 2001 10:53:50 +1000 " Peter Sutcliffe "

<petermay writes:

> Respected Krushna,

> I have just discovered that one of the 2 charts I gave you for young

> boys

> was incorrect ( fortunately it was the one I interpreted) so I have

> been

> having a look at the correct chart for the younger of the 2 boys and

> have

> several questions.

> 1) When we look at the 3,6,10,and 11 houses to see whether or not

> the person

> could run his own businessm does it make any difference which of

> the

> sequences, that is for the lagna, the Moon or the Sun gives a steady

> rising

> set of numbers. If it does how does it alter the result. For example

> in this

> case it is the Sun which has 24,29,34,37 for the 3,6,10,11 houses

> for the

> lagna and Moon it is zig zag. Does it mean any difference in the

> result.

> 2)Looking at step 1 - the position in the navamsa of the lords of

> the 10th

> from the lagna, Moon and Sun I get Mars, Saturn and Mercury. Saturn

> has less

> points for 9 of the 12 houses therefore cannot be considered. Mars

> has less

> points in the 5,7,and 12 houses while Mercury has less points for

> the

> 3,6,7,9,and 12 houses. Is Mercury strong enough to help Mars in the

> selection of an occupation. For example Mars indicates military,

> blood,

> metal work, machinery etc in occupations while Mercury signifies

> things like

> communications, publishing, computer software and general business.

> Could

> the occupation combine these two planets or is Mercury too weak to

> help.

> 3) Looking at the divisionals does it make any difference where

> Saturn is

> the ruler, that is whather it is from the lagna, Moon or Sun and

> whether it

> is the Navamsa, trimsmsa, or dreshkana. Also should we include the

> Rasi

> among these. For example in the chart I am looking at the Sun is in

> Capricorn which has Saturn as its Lord.

> I think that is all for now.

> Peter

> Namaste

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sylvia,

The correct data for Shenon the youger of the boys should be:-

Shenon

Born 6th February 1994

Time 16:25

TZ -10hrs

No Daylight Saving

Place Cairns Queensland Australia

Longitude 145E46

Latitude 16S55

Lagna 17Gemini07

 

Peter

Namaste

[Guest guest]

Dear Margarita,

Very good interpretation.

krushna

 

 

> " Lettens " <dmlettens

>

>

> occupation

>Sun, 27 May 2001 16:26:57 +0200

>

>Hello Helena,

>A few days ago you posted your birthdata and I thought it a good exercice

>to look at it from the point of view of occupation.

>From asc Lord of 10 is Mer who is in Mercury Nav. (gemini)

>From Moon Lord of 10 is Saturn in Sun Nav (Leo)

>From Sun Lord of 10 is Jupiter in Saturn Nav (Capricorn)

>In rashi chart we find the navamsha lords in Mars and Jupiter (Pisces and

>Aries)

>Jupiter, even after deduction of the points of 12th lords, is the strongest

>planet in your chart. He is also the functional karaka for the 6th house.

>Jupiter and Saturn have good points for the 6th house, the other planets

>are rather weak although your 11th house of earning is the strongest one in

>your chart (points in the worksheet)

>In Trimsamsa Sun and Moon are in Saturn division so this indicate good

>intellectual skills

>Looking at the points in 3,6,10 and 11 from the asc I find 43-27-34-26 =

>zig-zag

>from the Moon : 26-34-33-43 this looks better

>Points in the 12th are less than in the 11th so saving is possible

>Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn are powerful for the 10th house (Mercury and

>Saturn being lords of D and E)so I think an occupation related to these 3

>planets suits you best.

>Because planets are also rather strong for the 7th house it could be an

>occupation were you work together with other people, in association with

>them. I think you would do well in matters or consulting related to

>investment, real estate. You could also be a solicitor. But I would opt for

> " teacher " as the occupation that suits you best.

>About you saying feeling old :

>For the moment you are in Rahu sub and Rahu is Saturn who is the lord of

>the 2nd. This lord always brings worries and Saturn has -1 point for the

>first house. In september you will enter Jupiter sub, he has good points

>for every house, so I think things will look different from then on.

>Perhaps another thing that's worth looking at is the kakshya transits. As

>there is a rather large difference in the sarv ashtakavarga points for your

>houses, it will gives extremes in high and low points depending on the

>transits of the planets.

>Hoping you will feel better soon !

>Best regards

>Margarita

 

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Dear Atul,

 

3:6:10:11 houses would mean

aspirations < social status < authority < income. That is the

signification of points being in ascending order. In points are in

zig zag manner then something may be lacking.

You also need to check this from lagna, sun and moon.

 

28 points means average strength, points above 28 means stronger the

results. Check points for quantum.

 

There have been charts discussed with detail discussion in the past

between Sanjay and Krushnaji. Take a look in the archives where zig

zag points of business men have been discussed.

 

Hope that helps,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

, " atul_yh "

<atul_yh> wrote:

> Dear All;

>

> is is a hard and fast rule that in order to do business, the

> 3,6,10,and 11 houses sud have ascending order of points (in sarva)

> and iot shud not be below 28??. Seen charts with zig zag, but

pretty

> succesful in business?

>

> Rgds

> Atul

[Guest guest]

Dear Dadhi,

All 3 are important for finding profession. It is not whichever is

stronger of the 3 but ALL 3.

 

Take your chart for example.

 

1) 10th lord from lagna is Aquarius. Its lord is Shani. Now Shani

is placed in Scorpio navamsa and its lord is Mars. So we get Mars.

 

2) 10th lord from Sun is Cancer. Its lord Moon is placed in navamsa

of Guru. So we get Guru.

 

3) 10th house from Moon is Pisces. Lord of Pisces is Guru who is

placed in navasma of Gemini so again Mercury.

 

So your profession or inclination will be for profession linked to

Mars, Guru and Mercury.

 

The lesson on finding occupation has more details like finding the

intellegence of a person. A butcher and an autoposy surgeon both

deal with similar things but to be an autopsy surgeon one needs more

qualification and intellegence and more delicate hands etc. So we

need to see lagna, sun and moon in sectors of shani in navamsa,

drekkhana and trimsamsa to judge the intellegence. This is also very

important. Also we might need to check DBCE points (SAV) i.e. 3,6,10

and 11 poinst and points in lagna to check the confidence of the

person etc etc.....

 

Hope that helps,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

 

, " Dadhi " <denis@d...>

wrote:

> Hi,

> Although there were many discussions on occupation, I would like to

ask something connected with profession.

>

> In standard texts it is described that profession of the native

will be that assigned to the Lord of the Navamsa occupied by the lord

of 10th house from the Lg, Mo and Su whoever is the strongest.

>

> Now, how to determine the strongest sign among those three in this

system ?

>

> I have some idea but could be wrong....

>

> All the best,

> Dadhi

[Guest guest]

> Dear Dadhi,> All 3 are important for finding profession. It is not whichever is> stronger of the 3 but ALL 3.

 

OK. But if it is so for KAS, it is somewhat different from standard jyotish shastras...

 

 

> The lesson on finding occupation has more details like finding the> intellegence of a person. A butcher and an autoposy surgeon both> deal with similar things but to be an autopsy surgeon one needs more> qualification and intellegence and more delicate hands etc. So we> need to see lagna, sun and moon in sectors of shani in navamsa,> drekkhana and trimsamsa to judge the intellegence. This is also very> important.

 

Regarding intelligence, it would be nice that some additional explanation is given. I do not understand what exactly one has to do with Lg, Su, and Mo in sectors of Shani. Good grasping power, inteligence, memory etc. is required everywhere, in many professions.

 

Let say someone is a movie actor like Depardieu from France. I think he is somewhat known there. He does not have Lg, Mo or Su in any sector of Shani (for Navamsha, Drekhana and Trimshamsha), but mostly in Mars sector. But he is an actor. He has to remember a lot of text given to him. Now, since he does not have either Lg, Mo or Su in sectors of Shani - is he less inteligent ? I do not know... maybe... . but does not seem so.

 

Let say that a person believes in God and Lg, Mo and Su are prominent in sectors of Jupiter (as explained in lesson). And that person might be very inteligent, and not have 2 or 3 Lg, Mo or Su in sectors of Shani. How to explain this ?

 

All the best,

Dadhi

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Dadhi,

I append my answer in CAPS

 

, " Dadhi " <denis@d...>

wrote:

>

> > Dear Dadhi,

> > All 3 are important for finding profession. It is not whichever is

> > stronger of the 3 but ALL 3.

>

>

> OK. But if it is so for KAS, it is somewhat different from standard

jyotish shastras...

>

 

ASH : I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN BY STANDARD JYOTISH SHASTRA ?

ASHTAKAVARGA IS GIVEN BY THE SAGES. THIS SYSTEM AND THE KNOWLEDGE OF

KAS IS NOT AVAILABLE IN ANY BOOK. THIS GROUP HAS BEEN STARTED TO

TEACH THIS SYSTEM OF TIMING OF EVENTS BY KRUSHNAJI.

 

IN THE STANDARD TEXTS ITS GIVEN THAT ALL EVENTS MUST BE SEEN FROM

LAGNA, SUN AND MOON SO I NOT CLEAR ON WHAT YOU ARE ASKING.

 

 

>

>

> > The lesson on finding occupation has more details like finding the

> > intellegence of a person. A butcher and an autoposy surgeon both

> > deal with similar things but to be an autopsy surgeon one needs

more

> > qualification and intellegence and more delicate hands etc. So we

> > need to see lagna, sun and moon in sectors of shani in navamsa,

> > drekkhana and trimsamsa to judge the intellegence. This is also

very

> > important.

>

> Regarding intelligence, it would be nice that some additional

explanation is given.

 

ASH : THERE HAVE BEEN EXCHANGES ON THIS LIST ON THIS SUBJECT.

SOMEONE HAD ASKED HOW COME SHANI IS SIGNIFICATOR OR KARAK FOR

INTELLEGENCE. SO KRUSHNAJI HAD GIVEN EXPLANATIONS.

 

SHANI IS NK FOR 4TH HOUSE I.E LORD OF HOUSE A IN KAL PURUSHA CHART.

TRY TO LOOK UP THOSE EXCHANGES IN THE LIST.

 

 

I do not understand what exactly one has to do with Lg, Su, and Mo in

sectors of Shani. Good grasping power, inteligence, memory etc. is

required everywhere, in many professions.

>

 

ASH : TRUE, ITS REQUIRED IN MANY PROFESSIONS BUT NOT EVERYONE HAS THE

SAME PHOTOGRAHIC MEMORY OR SAME IQ. NOT EVERYONE HAS THE CAPACITY TO

BECOME A DOCTOR OR AN ENGINEER OR AN ARCHITECT OR CITY PLANNER ETC.

 

 

> Let say someone is a movie actor like Depardieu from France. I

think he is somewhat known there. He does not have Lg, Mo or Su in

any sector of Shani (for Navamsha, Drekhana and Trimshamsha), but

mostly in Mars sector. But he is an actor. He has to remember a lot

of text given to him. Now, since he does not have either Lg, Mo or Su

in sectors of Shani - is he less inteligent ? I do not know...

maybe... . but does not seem so.

 

ASH : I DO NOT HAVE HIS CHART. I DONT KNOW ANY EVENTS. HERE WE ARE

TALKING OF NAVANSA, DREKKHANA AND TRIMSAMSA. CHANGES IN BIRTH TIME

CAN CHANGE PLANETARY POSITIONS OR EVEN LAGNAS.

NOW REMEMBERING TEXTS FOR A FEW MINTUES IS DIFFERENT.

 

>

> Let say that a person believes in God and Lg, Mo and Su are

prominent in sectors of Jupiter (as explained in lesson). And that

person might be very inteligent, and not have 2 or 3 Lg, Mo or Su in

sectors of Shani. How to explain this ?

>

 

ASH : SHANI IS FOR INTELLEGENCE. IF MORE SECTORS ARE FOUND IN SECTOR

OF GURU FOR LAGNA, SUN AND MOON PERSON IS GOD FEARING, SPEAKS TRUTH.

IF MORE ARE IN SECTOR OF MARS THEN PERSON MAY BE FIERY OR PROLLY DO

ACTION ROLES (AS PER THE ACTOR EXAMPLE) ETC.

 

 

THIS TOPIC HAS HAS SOME VERY GOOD EXCHANGES AND KRUSHNAJI HIMSELF HAS

GIVEN MORE EXPLANATIONS ON THIS MATTER. TRY TO LOOK UP THE ARCHIVES.

 

ALL GOOD QUESTIONS. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO POST MORE QUERIES. IT MEANS

YOU ARE GOING IN DEEPER INTO THIS SYSTEM.

 

> All the best,

> Dadhi

 

CHEERS !!!

ASH

[Guest guest]

> > ASH : I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN BY STANDARD JYOTISH SHASTRA ?> ASHTAKAVARGA IS GIVEN BY THE SAGES. THIS SYSTEM AND THE KNOWLEDGE OF> KAS IS NOT AVAILABLE IN ANY BOOK. THIS GROUP HAS BEEN STARTED TO> TEACH THIS SYSTEM OF TIMING OF EVENTS BY KRUSHNAJI.> > IN THE STANDARD TEXTS ITS GIVEN THAT ALL EVENTS MUST BE SEEN FROM> LAGNA, SUN AND MOON SO I NOT CLEAR ON WHAT YOU ARE ASKING.

 

Dear Ash,

For healthy disscusion you have to quote shastra if you not refering to KAS. From my memory I can say only that Phaladipika (chapter "Source of livelihood") and Saravali ("Chapter 33") mention that stronger should be taken.

 

Hower, it is not problem from me if it is same or completely different in KAS. No probem for me. Most important is that IT WORKS. And if Krushna say (in his vast experience) that all three points should be seen, than it is so.

 

> ASH : THERE HAVE BEEN EXCHANGES ON THIS LIST ON THIS SUBJECT.> SOMEONE HAD ASKED HOW COME SHANI IS SIGNIFICATOR OR KARAK FOR> INTELLEGENCE. SO KRUSHNAJI HAD GIVEN EXPLANATIONS.> SHANI IS NK FOR 4TH HOUSE I.E LORD OF HOUSE A IN KAL PURUSHA CHART.> TRY TO LOOK UP THOSE EXCHANGES IN THE LIST.

 

I went through them, but I thought that someone may add some more realisations.

 

 

> THIS TOPIC HAS HAS SOME VERY GOOD EXCHANGES AND KRUSHNAJI HIMSELF

> HAS> GIVEN MORE EXPLANATIONS ON THIS MATTER. TRY TO LOOK UP THE ARCHIVES.

OK.

 

 

> ALL GOOD QUESTIONS. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO POST MORE QUERIES. IT MEANS> YOU ARE GOING IN DEEPER INTO THIS SYSTEM.

 

Thank you for support. To tell you the truth, after years of studying jyotish I have found that KAS really nicely works. However, I read all texts in archives in relatively quick time (few thousands texts), took out all lessons, examples, conversations, little hints etc... and need some time to digest everything, so here and there I might have some confused question, but I hope that you'll tolerate me (also my english is not so god...).

 

Thank you once again for answers.

 

All the best,

Dadhi

[Guest guest]

> Also we might need to check DBCE points (SAV) i.e. 3,6,10 > and 11 poinst and points in lagna to check the confidence of the > person etc etc.....Another question:

 

It seems that DBCE points ( 3, 6, 10 and 11 houses) are important from Lg, Mo and Su.... and if we analyze DBCE from all three there might be different possibilities. What should one conclude if DBCE from Sun are good and not from Mo and Lg ?

 

Or DBCE from Mo are good, but not from Su and Lg ?

 

All the best,

Dadhi

[Guest guest]

Hello Dadhi,

I understand your confusion about " intelligence " . I think we must use

our good common sense and not focus exactly on " words " that can have

many different meanings for different people who use them.

 

Intelligence is also one of these terms and what is qualified as

being intelligent here is the capacity to " grasp " things, to

understand them, to control them. So when either asc Sun or Moon

lands up in navamsa, drekkana or trimsamsa of saturn, the person has

a good fotographic memory and " grasps " things quickly. Saturn is also

a symbol of organised knowledge while Jupiter represents more

knowledge that comes from inheritance from ancestors knowledge but

not needing big personal effort to understand, it's mostly repeated.

 

There are other forms of intelligence like " intuition " if they can

help other intellectual faculties, they are not considered under

Saturn. I hope I'm making things clear.

 

Another topic perhaps interesting to know in studying this system is

the following. One needs good basics knowledge of Vedic Astrology,

something you seem to master quite well. This system is only

for " timing " certain events and see " when " they can happen. If points

in WS are high, the event can happen but this does not mean that the

event will be happy. A strong sixth lord giving results will not

give " happy " results for all houses even with high points.

So conception or childbirth could be indicated but it could be a

mentally retarded child for example. Or if somebody marries in a

period with high points this does not meaan that the marriage will be

happy.

 

I had some problems to keep those two things separate in the

beginning but I'm sure you will manage because when I read your mails

your questions indicate that you are on the right track.

 

Good luck and best regards

Margarita

 

, " Dadhi " <denis@d...>

wrote:

> >

> > ASH : I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN BY STANDARD JYOTISH

SHASTRA ?

> > ASHTAKAVARGA IS GIVEN BY THE SAGES. THIS SYSTEM AND THE

KNOWLEDGE OF

> > KAS IS NOT AVAILABLE IN ANY BOOK. THIS GROUP HAS BEEN STARTED TO

> > TEACH THIS SYSTEM OF TIMING OF EVENTS BY KRUSHNAJI.

> >

> > IN THE STANDARD TEXTS ITS GIVEN THAT ALL EVENTS MUST BE SEEN FROM

> > LAGNA, SUN AND MOON SO I NOT CLEAR ON WHAT YOU ARE ASKING.

>

>

> Dear Ash,

> For healthy disscusion you have to quote shastra if you not

refering to KAS. From my memory I can say only that Phaladipika

(chapter " Source of livelihood " ) and Saravali ( " Chapter 33 " ) mention

that stronger should be taken.

>

> Hower, it is not problem from me if it is same or completely

different in KAS. No probem for me. Most important is that IT WORKS.

And if Krushna say (in his vast experience) that all three points

should be seen, than it is so.

>

>

> > ASH : THERE HAVE BEEN EXCHANGES ON THIS LIST ON THIS SUBJECT.

> > SOMEONE HAD ASKED HOW COME SHANI IS SIGNIFICATOR OR KARAK FOR

> > INTELLEGENCE. SO KRUSHNAJI HAD GIVEN EXPLANATIONS.

>

> > SHANI IS NK FOR 4TH HOUSE I.E LORD OF HOUSE A IN KAL PURUSHA

CHART.

> > TRY TO LOOK UP THOSE EXCHANGES IN THE LIST.

>

>

> I went through them, but I thought that someone may add some more

realisations.

>

>

> > THIS TOPIC HAS HAS SOME VERY GOOD EXCHANGES AND KRUSHNAJI HIMSELF

> > HAS

> > GIVEN MORE EXPLANATIONS ON THIS MATTER. TRY TO LOOK UP THE

ARCHIVES.

>

> OK.

>

>

> > ALL GOOD QUESTIONS. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO POST MORE QUERIES. IT

MEANS

> > YOU ARE GOING IN DEEPER INTO THIS SYSTEM.

>

>

> Thank you for support. To tell you the truth, after years of

studying jyotish I have found that KAS really nicely works. However,

I read all texts in archives in relatively quick time (few thousands

texts), took out all lessons, examples, conversations, little hints

etc... and need some time to digest everything, so here and there I

might have some confused question, but I hope that you'll tolerate me

(also my english is not so god...).

>

> Thank you once again for answers.

>

> All the best,

> Dadhi

[Guest guest]

Dear Margarita,

Thanks for comments. It is so nicely explained.

 

> So when either asc Sun or Moon> lands up in navamsa, drekkana or trimsamsa of saturn, the person has> a good fotographic memory and "grasps" things quickly. Saturn is also> a symbol of organised knowledge while Jupiter represents more> knowledge that comes from inheritance from ancestors knowledge but> not needing big personal effort to understand, it's mostly repeated.> There are other forms of intelligence like "intuition" if they can> help other intellectual faculties, they are not considered under> Saturn. I hope I'm making things clear.

 

 

Would you be so kind and explain the above-mentioned info on the chart of BV Raman, well-known astrologer ( 08. August 1912. / 19:43 / 77E35, 12N59 / +5.30 ) ? .....

2 x Su and 2 x Mo + once Lg are in sectors of Shani. Quite interesting...

 

 

> Another topic perhaps interesting to know in studying this system is> the following. One needs good basics knowledge of Vedic Astrology,> something you seem to master quite well. This system is only> for "timing" certain events and see "when" they can happen. If points> in WS are high, the event can happen but this does not mean that the> event will be happy. A strong sixth lord giving results will not> give "happy" results for all houses even with high points.> So conception or childbirth could be indicated but it could be a> mentally retarded child for example. Or if somebody marries in a> period with high points this does not meaan that the marriage will be> happy.

 

Thank you for this explanation. It means a lot !

 

All the best,

Dadhi

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Dadhi,

Margarita has exlained very nicely. I just wanted to add a couple of

points.

 

Say for example in the texts its given that Shani and Mars in kendras

this combination is not good.

 

Now apply the same with KAS system.

 

" Generally " , Shani and Mars have less points in the place where it is

in due to the fact that each of these malefics have been given only

39 points to distribute in their BAV.

 

Now if say Shani was in 4th place from Mars then what happens if we

look at it from our system.

 

1) Both are in 4:10 from each other. So they help each other (if

Mars has lesser points than Shani i.e. say if Mars were to have 2

bindus and Shani 3 bindus).

2) In the above case, Shani and Mars become Samdharmi. Samdharmi

means similar duties. Here Shani would give its points to Mars and

make Mars very strong and in places where Mars cannot give results

Shani will step in.

3) In the above case 1 malefic is hepling other malefic making both

even more malefic

4) Further more, Shani with 3 bindus is aspecting Mars with 10th

dristi by +6 bindus making mars more strong and here Mars is also

aspecting Shani with +5 bindus making it more strong too. So these 2

planest become very very strong in a chart to do malefic.

 

If Shani and Mars were in 1:7 then both would make each other strong

by their aspect again helping each other getting strong.

 

So if you study the texts out there and use Krushnas Ashtakavara

System and see it from that view point also a lot of things will get

clear.

 

Another example could be that was explained to me was like this.

 

" Lagna lord in 5th means persons gets good authority. " This is given

in texts or something to that effect.

 

Now look at it from the view point of KAS and how we consider the

similar thing and we in our system do not have to remember all that

its all considered indirectly.

 

Explanation : Authority is given by 10th house. So 10th controls

lagna. It means that lagna is in 4th from 10th house. So 10th house

is kinda reflection of lagna. A person with more authority (10th

house) reflects his personality (lagna). Now this lord goes into 5th

house.

Keep 10th as B, the Karak of 10th is 5th house. Now 4th from lagna

(helper of 10th) has gone into Karak sthan or House A). This makes

it even more eager to give results for 10th. So person may get more

authority.

 

Here is something more interesting. Here if you consider the Bindus

of lagna lord in the 5th then what have we done here ?

 

We have just studied the status of the planet from 8 different

planets and lagna. So we have viewed all kinds of beneficial

positions or yogs its making with lagna and 7 planets. So indirectly

you have covered a vast portion and yogs given in traditional texts.

et. Viola.

 

Then you can go in deeper and find out the strength in Worksheet for

that planet and you can then get more detailed picture on timing.

 

Then finally you can apply the Multiplication factor to get

the " quantum " or " quality " of the result.

 

I would like to share some experience that I experienced.

 

The real problem one faces and I faced before learing this system

(KAS) was finding the real strength of the planet.

How do you consider the strength ? Does the strength of the planet

lie in how many yogas its making, or is it the sign placement, then

special yogs like kal sarp yog, divisional charts strength, etc etc.

Maybe I am too dumb because at the end I was still not clear. I

would judge that such and such event happened due to such and such a

thing but then if same thing was in other chart then it did not work

or was not convincing.

 

After encountering KAS, all these questions were and are being

answered slowly in a very organized manner. For finding the " Timing "

of the event we need not worry about unccha and neecha etc sign

placements but we focus on Ashtakavarga and bindus to get strength of

planet. SAV gives us strength of house and from Worksheet we get

strength of all individual planet.

 

Also then with this system I could at a glance see that if a planet

was giving very good authority, it could also give some terrible

result for another house.

 

This system is very detailed and in my opinion the best for Timing of

Results and also fine tuning Vedic Astrology part of this shastra.

 

 

Please feel free to post your doubts and charts if you do not

understand something or some concept. By only questioning you will

learn a lot. From the archives you can see how many questions I have

asked lol....

Go right ahead... I shall try to do my best to answer your questions

in the time I have...

 

Also see the chart of Albert Einstein and Sigmund Freud while at it

and see in how many sectors does lagna, sun and moon fall in the

sector of Shani.

 

Merry Christmas,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

, " Dadhi " <denis@d...>

wrote:

> >

> > ASH : I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN BY STANDARD JYOTISH

SHASTRA ?

> > ASHTAKAVARGA IS GIVEN BY THE SAGES. THIS SYSTEM AND THE

KNOWLEDGE OF

> > KAS IS NOT AVAILABLE IN ANY BOOK. THIS GROUP HAS BEEN STARTED TO

> > TEACH THIS SYSTEM OF TIMING OF EVENTS BY KRUSHNAJI.

> >

> > IN THE STANDARD TEXTS ITS GIVEN THAT ALL EVENTS MUST BE SEEN FROM

> > LAGNA, SUN AND MOON SO I NOT CLEAR ON WHAT YOU ARE ASKING.

>

>

> Dear Ash,

> For healthy disscusion you have to quote shastra if you not

refering to KAS. From my memory I can say only that Phaladipika

(chapter " Source of livelihood " ) and Saravali ( " Chapter 33 " ) mention

that stronger should be taken.

>

> Hower, it is not problem from me if it is same or completely

different in KAS. No probem for me. Most important is that IT WORKS.

And if Krushna say (in his vast experience) that all three points

should be seen, than it is so.

>

>

> > ASH : THERE HAVE BEEN EXCHANGES ON THIS LIST ON THIS SUBJECT.

> > SOMEONE HAD ASKED HOW COME SHANI IS SIGNIFICATOR OR KARAK FOR

> > INTELLEGENCE. SO KRUSHNAJI HAD GIVEN EXPLANATIONS.

>

> > SHANI IS NK FOR 4TH HOUSE I.E LORD OF HOUSE A IN KAL PURUSHA

CHART.

> > TRY TO LOOK UP THOSE EXCHANGES IN THE LIST.

>

>

> I went through them, but I thought that someone may add some more

realisations.

>

>

> > THIS TOPIC HAS HAS SOME VERY GOOD EXCHANGES AND KRUSHNAJI HIMSELF

> > HAS

> > GIVEN MORE EXPLANATIONS ON THIS MATTER. TRY TO LOOK UP THE

ARCHIVES.

>

> OK.

>

>

> > ALL GOOD QUESTIONS. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO POST MORE QUERIES. IT

MEANS

> > YOU ARE GOING IN DEEPER INTO THIS SYSTEM.

>

>

> Thank you for support. To tell you the truth, after years of

studying jyotish I have found that KAS really nicely works. However,

I read all texts in archives in relatively quick time (few thousands

texts), took out all lessons, examples, conversations, little hints

etc... and need some time to digest everything, so here and there I

might have some confused question, but I hope that you'll tolerate me

(also my english is not so god...).

>

> Thank you once again for answers.

>

> All the best,

> Dadhi

[Guest guest]

Dear Krushnaji, Margarita, Dadhi and list members,

 

DBCE points if in ascending order show the grace of karak. So if we

are checking 3:6:10:11 points from lagna it means we are checking

Grace of karak who is lagna. So may show the personality of the

preson so in this chase if they are in ascending order it shows a

person who can take daring, is confident and such persons can do

their own business. Now you check them also from Moon and Sun and

you can get an idea. So if 2 are in zigzag and if 1 is in ascending

order then more towards service.

 

There is more towards it and I am still thinking on this part.

 

There are 3 types of business

 

1) Continous rolling of money like say a restaurant. [LAGNA]

2) Contract type work so one gets money after work finished [MOON]

3) Fixed Salary where one gets paid on a particular day. [sUN]

 

Now if you are studying for a fixed income then you can check poitns

of DBCE from Sun. For contract income you can check DBCE from moon

and for continious income you can check from lagna.

 

But overall results must be seen from Lagna. i.e 3:6:10:11 from

lagna. Good and bad period should be considered from Lagna and

Worksheet.

 

We also need to consider the sign placement of Sun and moon if they

are in a friends sign of enemies sign. Basically we need to study

the status of each.

 

Now for any finaicial problems the transit of Saturn and Guru are

very important. To go into to detail on why you can study the

kalpurush chart.

 

If in a malefic is transitting a house with 0 points then more

problems and where the problem is coming from can be studied from the

karaktwa of the transitting malefic planet.

 

We also have to study the SAV points where Sun, Moon and Lagna have.

 

Krushnaji and Margarita, please feel free to correct my

understanding. And add to what I have written if I have missed out

something.

 

 

I hope that helps,

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Dadhi " <denis@d...>

wrote:

> > Also we might need to check DBCE points (SAV) i.e. 3,6,10

> > and 11 poinst and points in lagna to check the confidence of the

> > person etc etc.....

>

> Another question:

>

> It seems that DBCE points ( 3, 6, 10 and 11 houses) are important

from Lg, Mo and Su.... and if we analyze DBCE from all three there

might be different possibilities. What should one conclude if DBCE

from Sunare good and not from Mo and Lg ?

>

> Or DBCE from Mo are good, but not from Su and Lg ?

>

> All the best,

> Dadhi

[Guest guest]

Hello Dadhi,

Thanks for the chart of BV Raman.

I think this chart is interesting even if I don't know if the TOB has

not been " adapted " for certain purposes.

I saw, as you pointed out, how often Sun,Moon or Asc land up in

Saturn's in the important divisional charts.It surely must have

helped him a lot in mastering astrology.

I think this chart is also interesting to illustrate nicely the so

famous " samdharmi " principle and how planets behave in this

particular case in their 4:10 relationship.

Look at Mars(3p) in 7the and Jupiter (5p) in 10th. Mars is going to

collect points from Jupiter and thus gets strength from him. Mars is

aspecting Jupiter with +5 points and make Jupiter strong;so both

planets become very strong in the chart.

 

Without going into multiple details the positions in kendras and high

MF (multiplication factor) for all planets except Venus is also an

interesting factor.

Best regards

Margarita

 

-- In , " Dadhi " <denis@d...>

wrote:

> Dear Margarita,

> Thanks for comments. It is so nicely explained.

>

> > So when either asc Sun or Moon

> > lands up in navamsa, drekkana or trimsamsa of saturn, the person

has

> > a good fotographic memory and " grasps " things quickly. Saturn is

also

> > a symbol of organised knowledge while Jupiter represents more

> > knowledge that comes from inheritance from ancestors knowledge but

> > not needing big personal effort to understand, it's mostly

repeated.

> > There are other forms of intelligence like " intuition " if they can

> > help other intellectual faculties, they are not considered under

> > Saturn. I hope I'm making things clear.

>

>

> Would you be so kind and explain the above-mentioned info on the

chart of BV Raman, well-known astrologer ( 08. August 1912. / 19:43 /

77E35, 12N59 / +5.30 ) ? .....

> 2 x Su and 2 x Mo + once Lg are in sectors of Shani. Quite

interesting...

>

>

>

> > Another topic perhaps interesting to know in studying this system

is

> > the following. One needs good basics knowledge of Vedic Astrology,

> > something you seem to master quite well. This system is only

> > for " timing " certain events and see " when " they can happen. If

points

> > in WS are high, the event can happen but this does not mean that

the

> > event will be happy. A strong sixth lord giving results will not

> > give " happy " results for all houses even with high points.

> > So conception or childbirth could be indicated but it could be a

> > mentally retarded child for example. Or if somebody marries in a

> > period with high points this does not meaan that the marriage

will be

> > happy.

>

>

> Thank you for this explanation. It means a lot !

>

> All the best,

> Dadhi

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash and other members,

Sorry for the late answer. I was busy these days.

Again, thank you Ash for nice and deep explanation. It made me think twice about the (possible) depth of KAS.

 

However, if you do not mind, I would like to comment. I will do this through a number of letters rather than one, as I think that rule "one subject matter per letter" is more practical, both for the present disscussion and for those who will later work with the archives of this list.

 

All the best,

Dadhi

 

 

-

ashsam73

Thursday, December 25, 2003 5:19 PM

Re: Occupation

Dear Dadhi,Margarita has exlained very nicely. I just wanted to add a couple of points.Say for example in the texts its given that Shani and Mars in kendras this combination is not good.Now apply the same with KAS system. "Generally", Shani and Mars have less points in the place where it is in due to the fact that each of these malefics have been given only 39 points to distribute in their BAV.Now if say Shani was in 4th place from Mars then what happens if we look at it from our system.1) Both are in 4:10 from each other. So they help each other (if Mars has lesser points than Shani i.e. say if Mars were to have 2 bindus and Shani 3 bindus).2) In the above case, Shani and Mars become Samdharmi. Samdharmi means similar duties. Here Shani would give its points to Mars and make Mars very strong and in places where Mars cannot give results Shani will step in.3) In the above case 1 malefic is hepling other malefic making both even more malefic4) Further more, Shani with 3 bindus is aspecting Mars with 10th dristi by +6 bindus making mars more strong and here Mars is also aspecting Shani with +5 bindus making it more strong too. So these 2 planest become very very strong in a chart to do malefic.If Shani and Mars were in 1:7 then both would make each other strong by their aspect again helping each other getting strong.So if you study the texts out there and use Krushnas Ashtakavara System and see it from that view point also a lot of things will get clear. Another example could be that was explained to me was like this."Lagna lord in 5th means persons gets good authority." This is given in texts or something to that effect.Now look at it from the view point of KAS and how we consider the similar thing and we in our system do not have to remember all that its all considered indirectly.Explanation : Authority is given by 10th house. So 10th controls lagna. It means that lagna is in 4th from 10th house. So 10th house is kinda reflection of lagna. A person with more authority (10th house) reflects his personality (lagna). Now this lord goes into 5th house. Keep 10th as B, the Karak of 10th is 5th house. Now 4th from lagna (helper of 10th) has gone into Karak sthan or House A). This makes it even more eager to give results for 10th. So person may get more authority.Here is something more interesting. Here if you consider the Bindus of lagna lord in the 5th then what have we done here ?We have just studied the status of the planet from 8 different planets and lagna. So we have viewed all kinds of beneficial positions or yogs its making with lagna and 7 planets. So indirectly you have covered a vast portion and yogs given in traditional texts. et. Viola.Then you can go in deeper and find out the strength in Worksheet for that planet and you can then get more detailed picture on timing.Then finally you can apply the Multiplication factor to get the "quantum" or "quality" of the result.I would like to share some experience that I experienced.The real problem one faces and I faced before learing this system (KAS) was finding the real strength of the planet.How do you consider the strength ? Does the strength of the planet lie in how many yogas its making, or is it the sign placement, then special yogs like kal sarp yog, divisional charts strength, etc etc.Maybe I am too dumb because at the end I was still not clear. I would judge that such and such event happened due to such and such a thing but then if same thing was in other chart then it did not work or was not convincing. After encountering KAS, all these questions were and are being answered slowly in a very organized manner. For finding the "Timing" of the event we need not worry about unccha and neecha etc sign placements but we focus on Ashtakavarga and bindus to get strength of planet. SAV gives us strength of house and from Worksheet we get strength of all individual planet.Also then with this system I could at a glance see that if a planet was giving very good authority, it could also give some terrible result for another house. This system is very detailed and in my opinion the best for Timing of Results and also fine tuning Vedic Astrology part of this shastra.Please feel free to post your doubts and charts if you do not understand something or some concept. By only questioning you will learn a lot. From the archives you can see how many questions I have asked lol....Go right ahead... I shall try to do my best to answer your questions in the time I have...Also see the chart of Albert Einstein and Sigmund Freud while at it and see in how many sectors does lagna, sun and moon fall in the sector of Shani.Merry Christmas,Cheers !!!Ash , "Dadhi" <denis@d...> wrote:> > > > ASH : I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN BY STANDARD JYOTISH SHASTRA ?> > ASHTAKAVARGA IS GIVEN BY THE SAGES. THIS SYSTEM AND THE KNOWLEDGE OF> > KAS IS NOT AVAILABLE IN ANY BOOK. THIS GROUP HAS BEEN STARTED TO> > TEACH THIS SYSTEM OF TIMING OF EVENTS BY KRUSHNAJI.> > > > IN THE STANDARD TEXTS ITS GIVEN THAT ALL EVENTS MUST BE SEEN FROM> > LAGNA, SUN AND MOON SO I NOT CLEAR ON WHAT YOU ARE ASKING.> > > Dear Ash,> For healthy disscusion you have to quote shastra if you not refering to KAS. From my memory I can say only that Phaladipika (chapter "Source of livelihood") and Saravali ("Chapter 33") mention that stronger should be taken.> > Hower, it is not problem from me if it is same or completely different in KAS. No probem for me. Most important is that IT WORKS. And if Krushna say (in his vast experience) that all three points should be seen, than it is so.> > > > ASH : THERE HAVE BEEN EXCHANGES ON THIS LIST ON THIS SUBJECT.> > SOMEONE HAD ASKED HOW COME SHANI IS SIGNIFICATOR OR KARAK FOR> > INTELLEGENCE. SO KRUSHNAJI HAD GIVEN EXPLANATIONS.> > > SHANI IS NK FOR 4TH HOUSE I.E LORD OF HOUSE A IN KAL PURUSHA CHART.> > TRY TO LOOK UP THOSE EXCHANGES IN THE LIST.> > > I went through them, but I thought that someone may add some more realisations. > > > > THIS TOPIC HAS HAS SOME VERY GOOD EXCHANGES AND KRUSHNAJI HIMSELF > > HAS> > GIVEN MORE EXPLANATIONS ON THIS MATTER. TRY TO LOOK UP THE ARCHIVES.> > OK. > > > > ALL GOOD QUESTIONS. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO POST MORE QUERIES. IT MEANS> > YOU ARE GOING IN DEEPER INTO THIS SYSTEM.> > > Thank you for support. To tell you the truth, after years of studying jyotish I have found that KAS really nicely works. However, I read all texts in archives in relatively quick time (few thousands texts), took out all lessons, examples, conversations, little hints etc... and need some time to digest everything, so here and there I might have some confused question, but I hope that you'll tolerate me (also my english is not so god...).> > Thank you once again for answers.> > All the best,> Dadhi

[Guest guest]

> Another example could be that was explained to me was like this.> > "Lagna lord in 5th means persons gets good authority." This is given> in texts or something to that effect.> > Now look at it from the view point of KAS and how we consider the> similar thing and we in our system do not have to remember all that> its all considered indirectly.> > Explanation : Authority is given by 10th house. So 10th controls> lagna. It means that lagna is in 4th from 10th house.

 

So, any place (house, sign) in the chart is controlled by 10th house from itself. If, for example, there is Mars in a house with more than 4 bindus, and if no planet is placed in 10th from him, does that 10th house get some strenght ? .... (sorry if this sounds speculative).

 

 

> Keep 10th as B, the Karak of 10th is 5th house. Now 4th from lagna> (helper of 10th) has gone into Karak sthan or House A). This makes> it even more eager to give results for 10th. So person may get more> authority.

 

Should this principle be applied to other similar combinations, like when the 2nd lord in 6th house, 3rd lord in 7th house and so on ?

 

 

> Here is something more interesting. Here if you consider the Bindus> of lagna lord in the 5th then what have we done here ?> > We have just studied the status of the planet from 8 different> planets and lagna. So we have viewed all kinds of beneficial> positions or yogs its making with lagna and 7 planets. So indirectly> you have covered a vast portion and yogs given in traditional texts.> et. Viola.

 

I would be greatful if you can demonstrate this principle on some example.

 

 

> Then finally you can apply the Multiplication factor to get> the "quantum" or "quality" of the result.

 

 

If possible, please explain why the multiplication factor is not built in ? Is it a technical reason or jyotish one ?

 

 

> Please feel free to post your doubts and charts if you do not> understand something or some concept. By only questioning you will> learn a lot. From the archives you can see how many questions I have> asked lol....> Go right ahead... I shall try to do my best to answer your questions> in the time I have...

 

 

Thank you for this opportunity.

 

> Also see the chart of Albert Einstein and Sigmund Freud while at it> and see in how many sectors does lagna, sun and moon fall in the> sector of Shani.

 

According to my resources, Einstein has 3 and 4 placements in divisions of Shani.

 

All the best,

Dadhi

 

[Guest guest]

> There are 3 types of business> > 1) Continous rolling of money like say a restaurant. [LAGNA]> 2) Contract type work so one gets money after work finished [MOON]> 3) Fixed Salary where one gets paid on a particular day. [sUN]

 

What would you say for those who just get donations, like sadhus, preachers etc. ?

 

> We also need to consider the sign placement of Sun and moon if they> are in a friends sign of enemies sign. Basically we need to study> the status of each.

 

Should we study influences on Lagna (and it's lord), if we look from Lagna ?

 

 

> If in a malefic is transitting a house with 0 points then more> problems and where the problem is coming from can be studied from the> karaktwa of the transitting malefic planet.> > We also have to study the SAV points where Sun, Moon and Lagna have.> > Krushnaji and Margarita, please feel free to correct my> understanding. And add to what I have written if I have missed out> something.

Dear Ash, it would be interesting to know answers on your questions. I loved them a lot ( looking through archives), although they are not always answered.

 

All the best,

Dadhi

[Guest guest]

Dear Dadhi,

My answers are in CAPS.

 

 

, " Dadhi " <denis@d...>

wrote:

>

> > Another example could be that was explained to me was like this.

> >

> > " Lagna lord in 5th means persons gets good authority. " This is

given

> > in texts or something to that effect.

> >

> > Now look at it from the view point of KAS and how we consider the

> > similar thing and we in our system do not have to remember all

that

> > its all considered indirectly.

> >

> > Explanation : Authority is given by 10th house. So 10th controls

> > lagna. It means that lagna is in 4th from 10th house.

>

>

> So, any place (house, sign) in the chart is controlled by 10th

house from itself. If, for example, there is Mars in a house with

more than 4 bindus, and if no planet is placed in 10th from him, does

that 10th house get some strenght ? .... (sorry if this sounds

speculative).

>

 

ASH : PLEASE STUDY THE WORKSHEET. YOU WILL SEE THAT PLANETS IN HOUSE

D OR E WITH GREATER THAN 4 BINDUS ALSO BECOME EAGER TO GIVE RESULTS.

WE ADD THEIR POINTS IN THE WS. THEY ARE ALSO CONSIDERED. SO IF SAY

FOR AQUARIUS LAGNA, SHANI WERE TO BE IN 4TH HOUSE WITH 5 BINDUS THEN

SHANI WOULD BE EAGER TO GIVE RESULTS FOR MARRIAGE IF THE PERSON WAS

ELEGIBLE FOR MARRIAGE AND SHANIS ANTRA CAME AROUND AND DELAY PERIOD

IF ANY WAS OVER.

THINK OF A PLANET WITH MORE POINTS AS A NOBLE PLANET. BEING IN 10TH

FROM A PLANET MEANS A NOBLE BOSS ETC ETC.

 

>

> > Keep 10th as B, the Karak of 10th is 5th house. Now 4th from

lagna

> > (helper of 10th) has gone into Karak sthan or House A). This

makes

> > it even more eager to give results for 10th. So person may get

more

> > authority.

>

>

> Should this principle be applied to other similar combinations,

like when the 2nd lord in 6th house, 3rd lord in 7th house and so on ?

>

>

 

ASH : HERE FOR 11TH HOUSE, 2ND HOUSE IS WEALTH. IF A PERSON MAKES

MORE INCOME IT MIGHT REFLECT TO PEOPLE THAT THE PERSON MIGHT

BE " WEALTHY " (2ND HOUSE). IF 2ND LORD GOES INTO 6TH HOUSE, 6TH IS

KARAK FOR 11TH SO WE ALSO SEE " JOB " FROM 6TH HOUSE. SO AGAIN IF

PERSON IS EARNING WELL THEN HE MUST HAVE A GOOD JOB LOL...

 

SIMILARLY YOU CAN THINK FOR THE OTHER HOUSES...

 

> > Here is something more interesting. Here if you consider the

Bindus

> > of lagna lord in the 5th then what have we done here ?

> >

> > We have just studied the status of the planet from 8 different

> > planets and lagna. So we have viewed all kinds of beneficial

> > positions or yogs its making with lagna and 7 planets. So

indirectly

> > you have covered a vast portion and yogs given in traditional

texts.

> > et. Viola.

>

>

> I would be greatful if you can demonstrate this principle on some

example.

>

 

ASH : PLANET WITH MORE BINDUS (GREATER THAN 4) GENERALLY GIVE RESULTS

FOR 4TH AND 8TH HOUSE FROM ITSELF. WHY IS THAT ? FOR THE 4TH HOUSE

FROM ITSELF ITS BECOMES A PLANET IN HOUSE D WITH 4 POINTS AND FOR 8TH

HOUSE FROM ITSELF IT BECOMES A PLANET WITH >4 POINTS IN HOUSE E.

PLANET WITH MORE POINTS IS NOBLE SO WHEN IT IS RESIDENT IN A HOUSE

WITH MORE POINTS IT WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE HOUSE IT IS PLACED IN.

 

NOW HERE YOU HAVE TO GO IN VERY DETAIL IN LESSON 1. JUST OBSERVE THE

BAV DISTRIBUTION SCHEME. YOU WILL SEE THAT HOW THE MAHARISHI HAVE

GIVEN POINTS TO EACH PLANET TO DISTRIBUTE AND HOW THEY ARE

DISTRIBUTED BY PLANETS. HERE IS WHERE YOU COVER MOST OF THE YOGAS AS

THEY ARE REFERED TO IN TRADITIONAL TEXTS AND THEIR PLACEMENT FROM

EACH OTHER. SO THE YOGS AND THEIR CONTRAS ETC ARE ALL CONSIDERED

INDIRECTLY AND FROM ALL 7 PLANETS AND LAGNA HENCE ASHTAKAVARGA.

THAT IN ITSELF IS A VERY POWERFUL CONCEPT. MY SUGGESTION IS TO KEEP

REVISITING LESSON ONE AND JUST OBSERVE HOW THE POINTS ARE DISTRIBUTED.

 

FOR EXAMPLE IF THERE IS ANY PLANET IN 7TH FROM VENUS THEN IT WILL

WEAKEN VENUS. NOW IF U CHECK THE BAV AND CHECK VENUS'S POINTS

DISTRIBUTION U WILL SEE THAT NO PLANET GIVES STRENGTH OR A BINDU IF

ITS IN 7TH FROM IT. THAT U CAN SEE IN THE DISTRIBUTION. LIKE THIS

CHECK FOR ALL PLANETS U WILL FIND VERY INTERESTING THINGS.

 

MOSTLY ALL PLANETS DISTRIBUTE POINTS TO THEIR UPCHAYA. YOU WILL SEE

THAT IF THERE ARE LOTS OF PLANETS IN A HOUUSE THEN GENERALLY 11TH

HOUSE FROM ITSELF BUMPS UP IN POINTS.

 

>

> > Then finally you can apply the Multiplication factor to get

> > the " quantum " or " quality " of the result.

>

>

>

> If possible, please explain why the multiplication factor is not

built in ? Is it a technical reason or jyotish one ?

>

 

ASH : WE NEED TO STUDY EACH AND EVERYTHING. MULTIPLICATION FACTOR IS

HOW THE SIGN IS BACKING THE PLANET. IF GURU IS IN CANCER THEN IT

GETS BACKING OF 1.4 AND IF SUN IS IN LIBRA THEN SUN GETS BACKING OF

0.4.

 

NOW THE QUESTION THAT BECONS IS - DO WE USE THIS FOR FINDING THE

STRENGTH OF PLANET FOR TIMING OF RESULTS ?

THE ANSWER IS NO. WE DO NOT USE THE MULTIPLICATION FACTOR FOR TIMING

OF EVENTS, THE USE OF IT IS FOR SEEING THE " QUANTUM " OF THE RESULT.

THAT PART IS GIVEN IN SOME EXCHANGES BETWEEN MARGARITA, PHILIPPE AND

ALSO IN LESSON 26. WHEN A PLANET GETS INTO A HOUSE SAY OF EXALTATION

OR UNCCHA THEN THE RESULT WILL BE FELT IS WITH THE MULTIPLICATION

FACTOR OR WITH FULL FORCE, BE IT SO GOOD OR BAD.

 

>

> > Please feel free to post your doubts and charts if you do not

> > understand something or some concept. By only questioning you

will

> > learn a lot. From the archives you can see how many questions I

have

> > asked lol....

> > Go right ahead... I shall try to do my best to answer your

questions

> > in the time I have...

>

>

>

> Thank you for this opportunity.

>

>

> > Also see the chart of Albert Einstein and Sigmund Freud while at

it

> > and see in how many sectors does lagna, sun and moon fall in the

> > sector of Shani.

>

>

> According to my resources, Einstein has 3 and 4 placements in

divisions of Shani.

 

ASH : EXACTIMO ...

 

 

>

> All the best,

> Dadhi

 

 

MERCI,

CHEERS !!!

ASH

[Guest guest]

Dear Dadhi,

My answers are in CAPS.

 

, " Dadhi " <denis@d...>

wrote:

> > There are 3 types of business

> >

> > 1) Continous rolling of money like say a restaurant. [LAGNA]

> > 2) Contract type work so one gets money after work finished [MOON]

> > 3) Fixed Salary where one gets paid on a particular day. [sUN]

>

>

> What would you say for those who just get donations, like sadhus,

preachers etc. ?

>

 

ASH : I DID NOT UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. AND THIS QUESTION IS VERY

OPEN ENDED.

 

>

> > We also need to consider the sign placement of Sun and moon if

they

> > are in a friends sign of enemies sign. Basically we need to study

> > the status of each.

>

>

> Should we study influences on Lagna (and it's lord), if we look

from Lagna ?

 

ASH : THERE ARE 12 HOUSES AND 7 PLANETS AND 2 GRAHAS. WE NEED TO

STUDY STATUS OF EACH AND EVERY PLANET. THE REASON IS THAT EACH

PLANET IS WORKING FOR ALL 12 HOUSES. SO WE NEED TO STUDY EACH HOUSE

AND PLANET IN DETAIL FROM ALL ANGLES AND FOR THAT WE NEED TO SLOWLY

UNDERSTAND HOW WE SEE THINGS USING THIS SYSTEM AND PRACTICE.

 

>

>

> > If in a malefic is transitting a house with 0 points then more

> > problems and where the problem is coming from can be studied from

the

> > karaktwa of the transitting malefic planet.

> >

> > We also have to study the SAV points where Sun, Moon and Lagna

have.

> >

> > Krushnaji and Margarita, please feel free to correct my

> > understanding. And add to what I have written if I have missed

out

> > something.

>

> Dear Ash, it would be interesting to know answers on your

questions. I loved them a lot ( looking through archives), although

they are not always answered.

>

 

ASH : SOME QUESTIONS OF MINE MAY HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED AND SOME MIGHT

HAVE BEEN OPEN SO KRUSHNAJI OR OTHER SENIOR MEMBERS MIGHT NOT HAVE

RESPONDED. SOMETIMES THEY JUST WANT ME TO WORK HARDER AND DWELVE

DEEPER. SOMETIMES THE ANSWERES UNFOLD ON THEIR OWN ONCE U THINK MORE

ON THE SUBJECT. ONE OTHER POSSIBILITY IS THERE AND THAT CAN BE THAT

THE TOPIC HAS NOT BEEN COVERED IN LESSON SO BY COMMENTING ON IT MIGHT

JUST CONFUSE MEMBERS SO ITS A STEP BY STEP APPROACH TO LEARN SLOWLY

BUT SURELY.

 

> All the best,

> Dadhi

 

CHEERS !!!

ASH

[Guest guest]

> > ASH : PLEASE STUDY THE WORKSHEET. YOU WILL SEE THAT PLANETS IN HOUSE> D OR E WITH GREATER THAN 4 BINDUS ALSO BECOME EAGER TO GIVE RESULTS.> WE ADD THEIR POINTS IN THE WS. THEY ARE ALSO CONSIDERED. SO IF SAY> FOR AQUARIUS LAGNA, SHANI WERE TO BE IN 4TH HOUSE WITH 5 BINDUS THEN> SHANI WOULD BE EAGER TO GIVE RESULTS FOR MARRIAGE IF THE PERSON WAS> ELEGIBLE FOR MARRIAGE AND SHANIS ANTRA CAME AROUND AND DELAY PERIOD> IF ANY WAS OVER.> THINK OF A PLANET WITH MORE POINTS AS A NOBLE PLANET. BEING IN 10TH> FROM A PLANET MEANS A NOBLE BOSS ETC ETC.

> ASH : PLANET WITH MORE BINDUS (GREATER THAN 4) GENERALLY GIVE RESULTS> FOR 4TH AND 8TH HOUSE FROM ITSELF. WHY IS THAT ? FOR THE 4TH HOUSE> FROM ITSELF ITS BECOMES A PLANET IN HOUSE D WITH 4 POINTS AND FOR 8TH> HOUSE FROM ITSELF IT BECOMES A PLANET WITH >4 POINTS IN HOUSE E.> PLANET WITH MORE POINTS IS NOBLE SO WHEN IT IS RESIDENT IN A HOUSE> WITH MORE POINTS IT WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE HOUSE IT IS PLACED IN.

 

 

OK. That is clear. However, in Lesson 20, Krushna writes....

 

 

 

Male Chart:

 

The eighth house in a male chart indicates semen, Anddkosha (prostate gland) and genetic properties. Planets in the 5th house having more points in a male chart can give a problem with semen counts, because any planet with more points reduces the results of the 4th place from it.

 

 

What is the explanation for his statement regarding the planet with more points ? I thought that the planet with more points in house D is beneficial....

 

 

> NOW HERE YOU HAVE TO GO IN VERY DETAIL IN LESSON 1. JUST OBSERVE THE> BAV DISTRIBUTION SCHEME. YOU WILL SEE THAT HOW THE MAHARISHI HAVE> GIVEN POINTS TO EACH PLANET TO DISTRIBUTE AND HOW THEY ARE> DISTRIBUTED BY PLANETS. HERE IS WHERE YOU COVER MOST OF THE YOGAS AS> THEY ARE REFERED TO IN TRADITIONAL TEXTS AND THEIR PLACEMENT FROM> EACH OTHER. SO THE YOGS AND THEIR CONTRAS ETC ARE ALL CONSIDERED> INDIRECTLY AND FROM ALL 7 PLANETS AND LAGNA HENCE ASHTAKAVARGA.> THAT IN ITSELF IS A VERY POWERFUL CONCEPT. MY SUGGESTION IS TO KEEP> REVISITING LESSON ONE AND JUST OBSERVE HOW THE POINTS ARE DISTRIBUTED.> > FOR EXAMPLE IF THERE IS ANY PLANET IN 7TH FROM VENUS THEN IT WILL> WEAKEN VENUS. NOW IF U CHECK THE BAV AND CHECK VENUS'S POINTS> DISTRIBUTION U WILL SEE THAT NO PLANET GIVES STRENGTH OR A BINDU IF> ITS IN 7TH FROM IT. THAT U CAN SEE IN THE DISTRIBUTION. LIKE THIS> CHECK FOR ALL PLANETS U WILL FIND VERY INTERESTING THINGS.

 

Thank you very much for that info. I have checked for other planets and it is obvious, according to the principle you gave, who gives and who does not give strenght or bindu. However, I am not inteligent enough to go deeper. Is there some other hint to look for ?

 

 

 

> MOSTLY ALL PLANETS DISTRIBUTE POINTS TO THEIR UPCHAYA. YOU WILL SEE> THAT IF THERE ARE LOTS OF PLANETS IN A HOUUSE THEN GENERALLY 11TH> HOUSE FROM ITSELF BUMPS UP IN POINTS.

 

 

Yes, that is so evident in the chart of my friend who has the child with the Down syndrome. His 11th house has 54 bindus in SAV !

 

And his 12th has only 17 bindus. Although he can save some money, 36 bindus in the 10th makes him work very hard to get the money and he does not earn a lot working as an economy clerk.

 

Now, his 3,6,10 and 11 houses are increasing both from Mo, Lg and Su. That seems to be good.

 

All the best,

Dadhi

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Dadhi,

For checking income you check 11th house and WS for

timing.

Thanks,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

--- Dadhi <denis wrote:

>

> Dear Ash,

> Well, you have mentioned three types of bussines,

> but if we look closer, it is not just bussiness - it

> is a way to get some money.

>

> So, my question regarding preachers, sadhus... even

> beggars... etc. is that they also get some money

> without

>

> 1) continous rolling of money

> 2) or contract

> 3) or fixed salary.

>

> Is there som cathegory for them....

>

> All the best,

> Dadhi

>

> -

> ashsam73

>

> Saturday, January 10, 2004 4:57 PM

> Re: Occupation

>

>

> Dear Dadhi,

> My answers are in CAPS.

>

> ,

> " Dadhi " <denis@d...>

> wrote:

> > > There are 3 types of business

> > >

> > > 1) Continous rolling of money like say a

> restaurant. [LAGNA]

> > > 2) Contract type work so one gets money after

> work finished [MOON]

> > > 3) Fixed Salary where one gets paid on a

> particular day. [sUN]

> >

> >

> > What would you say for those who just get

> donations, like sadhus,

> preachers etc. ?

> >

>

> ASH : I DID NOT UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. AND

> THIS QUESTION IS VERY

> OPEN ENDED.

>

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Dadhi, ash, and list members,

Unearned money.......5th, and 8th house.

10th house less pts.

beggers 12th pts more then 11th

krushna

 

 

 

 

--- Ash Sam <ashsam73 wrote:

 

 

Dear Dadhi,

For checking income you check 11th house and WS for

timing.

Thanks,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

--- Dadhi <denis wrote:

>

> Dear Ash,

> Well, you have mentioned three types of bussines,

> but if we look closer, it is not just bussiness - it

> is a way to get some money.

>

> So, my question regarding preachers, sadhus... even

> beggars... etc. is that they also get some money

> without

>

> 1) continous rolling of money

> 2) or contract

> 3) or fixed salary.

>

> Is there som cathegory for them....

>

> All the best,

> Dadhi

>

> -

> ashsam73

>

> Saturday, January 10, 2004 4:57 PM

> Re: Occupation

>

>

> Dear Dadhi,

> My answers are in CAPS.

>

> ,

> " Dadhi " <denis@d...>

> wrote:

> > > There are 3 types of business

> > >

> > > 1) Continous rolling of money like say a

> restaurant. [LAGNA]

> > > 2) Contract type work so one gets money after

> work finished [MOON]

> > > 3) Fixed Salary where one gets paid on a

> particular day. [sUN]

> >

> >

> > What would you say for those who just get

> donations, like sadhus,

> preachers etc. ?

> >

>

> ASH : I DID NOT UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. AND

> THIS QUESTION IS VERY

> OPEN ENDED.

>

>

 

 

 

 

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