Saturn in 8th house

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Your delineation is understandable.

 

Afew more points ...

Planets gives three types of results.

 

1- According to their perminant nature (natural benefic or malefic)

2- According to their temporal nature (functional benefic or malefic)

3- According to their Karakatwa (planetary signification)

 

These effect can be modified by either DRISHTI, ARGALA, or AVASTHA(exaltation,

debilitation, combustion, retrogression etc).

In your case, being as functional benefic Saturn is in 8th house, may spoil the

good effect of 4th and 5th house and will enhance the matters of 8th house

(longevity, hardworking, partner's money etc). But on the other hand Saturn is

retrograde and ultimately Saturn denies the signification of 8th house. (no

sorrow, no sudden fall, no poverty, but dowry problem and incomplete sexual

desires)

 

Secondly due to retrogression the effect of planetary occupation becomes

reverse, that is Saturn may yield affect akin to 2nd.

 

Moreover Venus with Mars in lagna (in benefic sign) gives alluring gesture,

sensual thoughts. Here this conjuction contain argala by Moon, Sun and Mercury,

so this makes you passionate, independant and an admirer of aesthetic.

 

Imran

 

 

ni <annpatni > wrote:

dear syamji,As per my little understandingFor a Tula Lagna...Sani is lord of 4th

and 5th and is therefore a yogakaraka planet.Consequently the natives of this

Ascendant will enjoy beneficalresults in subperiods of shaniAlso in Tula

Lagna.Mangal looses its malefic nature as lord of the angular 7th, and isan

impressionable neutral as the 2nd lord, but its additional statusas a double

maraka apparently impels the Sage to classify it as amalefic, as he did with

Sukra for Mesha lagna.Sukra is designated as a neutral even though it is the

lagna lord.This is readily understandable based on the principle that

beneficsruling angles lose their benefic nature, which is especially damagingin

the case of Venus since it is the strongest benefic. This,combined with its

simultaneous lordship of the

banefully neutral 8thhouse, is why a normally auspicious lagna lord gets

neutralized.Now Sukra and Mangal are conjunct in Lagna. Sukra and Mangal in

Lagna could cause problems in general life affairs. In Navamsa: I have Dhana

Lagna in Navamsa and Mangal isfunctional benefic placed in 5th Kona. So this

Mangal is dramaticallyimproving in Navamsa. Sukra becomes a potent malefic in

Navamsaplaced in the 7th.So the Karma of Mangal is high whereas the one for

Sukra is dropping.can anyone throw some light on this

concept?thanks,Anamika.vedic astrology, Shyaam Sunder

Kansal <shyaamkansal> wrote:> Dear Anamika>

> I think, Saturn is the second most malefic planet in> your chart after Mars.

You are considering Saturn as> benefic because it is Lord of 5th and Lord of

4th. OK?> You are correct if we consider general principles of> determining

the functional benefics and malefics only.> However, when we apply the

principles told in various> other streams of Vedic Jyotish to measure the

exact> benefic or malefic nature of the planets in your natal> chart – picture

gets reversed. Saturn comes out as one> of the most malefic planet.> > During

its Vimsottari periods (specially the> sub-period of Saturn), you might get

very adverse> results pertaining to the significations of 4th House> (Home,

general happiness, peace of mind, property,> mother etc.); 5th House

(children, creativity,> romance etc); and 8th House (longevity, defeat or>

insult, accidents, sudden

losses etc.).> > You have been under Jupiter-Saturn dasa from 30th June> 2001 to

12th January 2004. Can you provide me your> feedback about what I said above?> >

I have programmed a "'Vjyotish beneficence scale" in> which the importance of

various astrological> parameters has been calibrated very carefully - as> told

in ancient Vedic Jyotish texts. In this report,> at times, some special Jyotish

principles may> over-shadow the net result obtained through the> normally used

Parashari principles to determine the> beneficence of a planet. In such cases,

these special> principles will prevail and may reduce (or enhance)> beneficence

of a planet considerably.> > On 'Vjyotish beneficence scale', Mercury stands out

as> the best planet for you. It's Vimsottari-periods will> generally be the

excellent periods of your life.> Specially those periods

- where Mercury simultaneously> holds portfolios of Mahadasa Lord, Antardasa

Lord and> Pratyantar dasa lord (i.e., when you are running under>

'Mercury-Mercury-Mercury' dasa, or atleast, Mercury is> the 'Antardasa lord'[AD

Lord] ). > > On the same 'Vjyotish beneficence scale', Mars has> been determined

as the most damaging planet in your> chart. It's Vimsottari-periods will

generally be the> trying periods of your life. You need to be extra> cautious

when you are under Vimsottari dasa of> 'Mars-Mars-Mars' or when Mars is the

'Antardasa> lord'[AD Lord].> > In the following report, normally, the values

around> zero should be considered as average beneficence while> increasing

negative values here denote increasing> malefic nature of the concerned planets

in your chart> due to various astrological parameters. Same way,> higher

positive values

indicate higher benefic nature> of the planets concerned.> > However, we have

to remember that the terms 'Good',> 'Poor' etc. are comparative. Planet-A might

be> negative but much less negative than Planet-B. Thus,> when a comparison will

be made between Planet-A and> Planet-B, the planet-A will be called 'Good' than>

planet-B. In the table below, same concept has been> used. Whatever the maximum

and minimum beneficence (or> maleficence) values have been obtained between the

9> planets, a comparative categorization, like> 'Excellent', 'Good', 'Worst'

etc., has been done> between the available value ranges. Thus, though a> planet

might be showing negative value in the table> below, but it may still be far

better than some other> planets (with higher negative values) and thus may>

have been assigned the category of 'Good' or> 'Average'. > >

In your natal chart, the maximum beneficence value is > 111.93 and the minimum

beneficence is -123.26.> > Sun : -24.62 Inadequate (Slightly

negative)> Moon : 30.84 Fair (Slightly positive)> Mars :

-123.26 Worst (Very negative)> Mercury: 111.93 Excellent (Very

positive)> Jupiter: 7.80 Average (Mixed results)> Venus :

52.82 Good (Positive)> Saturn : -94.05 Worst (Very negative)> Rahu

: -68.33 Poor (Negative)> Ketu : 23.33 Fair (Slightly

positive)> > Best wishes> Shyaam> http://www.vjyotish.com> >

=======================> To know more about "Vjyotish", please visit: >

http://www.vjyotish.com> > --- annpatni <annpatni> wrote:> > > Is saturn a

benefic in this chart?> > date of birth-11 dec 1972> > Place-Indore> >

time-03.23 Am> > Thanks for reply> > Anamika.> > > > > > > > >

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