Guest guest Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 Om Namo Bhagvate Ramachandraya Om Namo Bhagvate Anjaneyaya Om Namo Bhagvate Vasudevaya Dear Hemant Trivedi WHen i saw your post on the list, i was wondering why were you posting on the day of results. So i immediately asked you the question. But after my mail reached the list, i saw the addendum which you had posted regarding your prediction in the Tat Sat group. It looks like that you are deeply hurt with my comments. If yes, then i beg your pardon on the same. if me saying sorry solves the problem, then you must know that i am the easiest person to tell sorry. What is there in a sorry i am unable to understand. I am not against any novel method. Probably you are not aware of what i used to analyse on this very list a few years back. I have used all the systems including KP and systems only to get mad, and come back to Parasari principles, the basic and sweet principles which always hold good. If you are able to predict events through the novel methods then good for you, but kindly remember that newer methods should have sound astrological and classical basis also. if i am able to connect to your novel methods in a holistic way, i would be the first person to advocate to my friends and students to use the same. Let us come to Jyotish and not discuss the personal affairs of what you feel about me, or what i feel about you. I myself am a Shishya Of Shri.Sanjay Rath, and fortunately or unfortunately also a guru, which is forcing me to talk nicely. If i would have been just a student, i would have reacted to your bitter mails in a different way. best wishes partha OM TAT SAT Om Shantihi Shantihi Shantihi vedic astrology, "vidyut_bhatt" <vidyut_bhatt> wrote: > > Dear Sanjay Rath ji, > Thanks for a DECENT VOICE. > I did not predict the outcome of Andhra Elections . > It is against my principlesto predict about Races, elections, wars > and contests. > I was analysing the chart of Mr.Chandrababu Naidu in light of my HP > theory (Which raises heckels of many as it is Rahu centric). > > I had reposted what I had posted in Jyotish Tat-Sat group on 30th > April.One member who could not understand that this was a reposting > ridiculed me for posting after results were announced. > He did not even take care to post SORRY posting even after I had > posted addendum. > You will be upset if you read what he sent me which is as follows. > .... > > " > Tue, 11 May 2004 01:15:09 -0700 (PDT) > "partha sarathy" <partvinu5> Add to Address Book > Re: Chart of Chandrababu Naidu( Study by HP Theory) > Mr.Partha sarathy > "vidyut_bhatt" <vidyut_bhatt> > > Dear Hemant Trivedi Ji > > Agreed that you had posted on your list 10 days back. But you should > have done the same in vedic astro list also. ALl you had to do was CC > the mail. I agree that i had not read the addendum before posting my > mail. But it does not make your contention any better. > See for example, i may be correct with my friends. In my group i > might have said something which others are not aware of. When i see > that my predictions are coming true, i would take courage to post on > larger lists. This is what you have done. If i have assumed wrongly, > then please ignore my mail. > best wishes > partha > > > I want to ask this person what he means by saying I should have > courage to post on larger lists??? > He means to say that we lack courage in predicting?? > And what is this LARGER LIST? My posting on Tat-Sat is not public > enough or is he insinuating that Tat-sat is a family affair?? > This makes me really sick. > > I just pity such people.I am at a loss to know how you are connected > with such back slapping, syncopathic crowd? > > Every one has the freedom to use any method they find suitable to > predict. > > SHOW ME ONE OF THIS CROWD WHO HAS DONE TOTALLY INDEPENDENT RESEARCH > IN ASTROLOGY AND BROUGHT TO LIGHT NOVEL METHOD OF UNDERSTANDING A > CHART?? > > I have never invited people to learn HP theory. I have always been > trying to prove it with different cases. > > I want to qote an young astrologer here,(May be you know him) > > I will only qote a very well known young astrologer who wrote this in > in 1999 while replying in defence of some theory. > > QUOTE...... > > ""None of us has a perfect understanding of > Jyotish and our tools are far from perfect. Some may be too proud to > accept this, but this is the truth. We are all trying to improve > constantly. I too have attempted many puzzles before, some > successfully and some with failure and know the limitations very > well. Let us show respect for someone for trying and improve > collectively, rather than criticizing someone.".............. UNQUOTE > > > Sanjay ji, I am glad you have comedown hard on such backslapping. > Narsimhaji was gracious enough in accepting his error of > judgement.Let his SHISHYAS learn a thing or two from both of you. > Rgds > HT/VB > > > > > vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <guruji@s...> > wrote: > > My messages are not reaching VA List- hope this does thie time > > -- > -- > > > > ::om namo narayanaaya:: > > > > Dear Jyotisa, Narasimha, Ramdas Rao, Sanjay P and others, > > > > This is regarding the so called 'PREDICTIONS' about Chandrababu > > Naidu. Please stop congratulating each other. Five years back there > > was a lot of criticism Shri K.N.Rao got because he made predictions > > AFTER the exit polls. I ask - is this Jyotish?. If you wanted to > > make predictions should this not be done much before the election > > process kicks off? In fact the congrats should go to Mr. P. ROY of > > NDTV who made the prediction on TV based on EXIT POLLS. Everyone > else > > has only copied his prediction or opposed it. A Jyotish prediction > is > > one that is made before the event takes place and NOT after it is > > done. Now coming to the points – > > > > Tithi Pravesa Chart – > > > > The TP chart for Chandrababu Naidu that I get based on the data > > provided in a letter of Mr. Vidyut Bhatt is givern below. > > > > Naidu, Chandrababu > > > > Annual TP > > > > April 22, 2004 > > > > Time: 2:44:25 pm > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > Place: 79 E 25' 00", 13 N 39' 00" > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Tarana - Vaisakha > > > > Tithi: Sukla Tritiya (Ma) (38.11% left) > > > > Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju) > > > > Nakshatra: Rohini (Mo) (99.27% left) > > > > Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) > > > > Karana: Garija (Ju) > > > > Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Le) > > > > Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Ta) > > > > Kaala Lord: Rahu (Mahakala: Rahu) > > > > > > > > BASIC PRINCIPLE OF TP > > > > The first rule is to check the placement of the annual lagna as > > compared to natal Lagna. The Varsa Lagna is in Leo in the 3rd house > > which is a bad house. Karaka for this house is Mars and fights and > > setbacks should be naturally expected. > > > > The Hora Lord is Mars. It lords the 4th, 9th and Badhak houses of > the > > TP Chart. Now look at these houses. We have an ECLIPSE yoga of the > > Sun & Rähu in the 9th house in Badhak sthäna. It is well known that > a > > solar eclipse causes the fall of kings. Since this is occurring in > > Bhagya sthäna this will cause terrible misfortune. > > > > Next take Vara – this is Thursday ruled by Jupiter. Now go back to > > nata chart and see what Guru has to say. Guru is well placed in 9th > > house. His health will be good and he will still have some fortune > > left even after the eclipse. > > > > Now look at the Äruòha in the TP chart. The AL is in Dhanus with > ONLY > > Sanidev and debilitated Mercury aspecting AL and 10th house from > AL. > > the Äruòha is Finished this year. Look at the satrupada A6. This is > > in Scorpio with exalted Moon in 7th house (enemy will get fame and > > public support) and Jupter is in 10th house from A6 (enemy will get > > the blessings of God)… > > > > Now see the dasas. > > > > Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa): > > > > Le: 2004-04-22 (2:44:25 pm) - 2004-05-08 (9:49:34 am) > > > > Cp: 2004-05-08 (9:49:34 am) - 2004-05-31 (11:55:14 am) > > > > Ge: 2004-05-31 (11:55:14 am) - 2004-06-26 (3:26:13 am) > > > > Sc: 2004-06-26 (3:26:13 am) - 2004-07-14 (1:02:42 pm) > > > > > > > > The daçä of Capricorn is from May 8, 2004 to 31 may 2004 during > which > > period the Äruòha will be destroyed as Saturn its lord sits in the > > 7th from AL and this is the 2nd house from AL. Not that the enemies > > will fare very well as Saturn promises to be a kantaka for them as > > well. I don't know what this means in politics but maybe some TRS > and > > Cong stuff is waiting to be seen. > > > > > > > > Tithi Ashtottari Dasa of Janma tithi (useful especially in Tithi > > Pravesha charts): > > > > Mars: 2004-04-05 (10:54:43 am) - 2004-05-03 (9:21:20 pm) > > > > Merc: 2004-05-03 (9:21:20 pm) - 2004-07-02 (5:00:53 pm) > > > > Sat: 2004-07-02 (5:00:53 pm) - 2004-08-06 (4:51:52 pm) > > > > Jup: 2004-08-06 (4:51:52 pm) - 2004-10-14 (2:27:35 am) > > > > Rah: 2004-10-14 (2:27:35 am) - 2004-11-25 (12:25:15 am) > > > > Ven: 2004-11-25 (12:25:15 am) - 2005-02-08 (5:44:54 am) > > > > Sun: 2005-02-08 (5:44:54 am) - 2005-03-02 (3:08:19 am) > > > > Moon: 2005-03-02 (3:08:19 am) - 2005-04-24 (9:38:47 am) > > > > Mars: 2005-04-24 (9:38:47 am) - 2005-05-22 (7:50:20 pm) > > > > > > > > The TA daçä is of Mars during this period and Mars is clearly the > > Lord of Satrupada and is aspecting the A6 and 10th from A6 with > graha > > drishti. No doubt that the enemy will fight well. Incidentally > > Dr.Rajasekhara Reddy of the Congress is a medical doctor (MARS). > > > > > > > > It is not that TP is wrong. I was told about the letter of > Narasimha > > t the lists but his `bias' seemed evident in the mail. Statements > > like `even if he loses he will still do very well in the long run' > > shows this. > > > > Please remember that to succeed in Jyotish one has to leave > personal > > preferences behind. For all those who wish to make predictions > about > > the US Elections, please do this NOW and not in the middle of > > November! > > > > > > > > With best regards, > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > SJC Puri, 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India > > > > Tel: +91.6752.226269 http://srath.com > > > > > > > > Chart data taken from the following mail ------------------ > > > > vidyut_bhatt [vidyut_bhatt] > > Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:32 PM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] Re: Chart of Chandrababu Naidu( Study by > > HP Theory) > > > > Hello Friends, > > > > I must thank Sri P V N RAO ji of VA for birth details of Sri > > Chandrababu Naidu CM (presently) of Andhra Pradesh. > > > > It would be improper for me to forecast outcome of elections in > India > > and AP, but I cannot resist analysing his horoscope using HP method. > > > > I am giving below the birth details of Mr.Naidu for students like me > > to analyse. > > > > 20th April 1950, 11:28:35 am IST, 79 E 25' 00", 13 N 39' 00" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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