Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Hello Friends, HP Theory is now on anvil and is being tested for its usefulness and simplicity. Atmasnehi Guru Ramadasa has been using it very effectively in analysing charts.This is another attempt by self using R4 or YBL position of Rahu. Some startling things might happen during Kataka sojourn of Saturn. Today, self is posting the first of the three parts of US election analysis. Most of the astrologers and learned Gurus have given their readings on "THE GREAT FIGHT"between John Kerry and G.W Bush. And predictably everyone except Guru Ramadasa has predicted Kerry to carry forward the star spangled banner for the next four years. Self is but a sudent of astrology trying to establish a new system of prediction based on Rahu centric HP theory. Ramadasa ji had predicted Bush to win based on Simha Lagna for John Kerry and usual Kataka Lagna for George Bush. Many more birth timings of Kerry has surfaced giving Vrischik Lagna and so on . The beauty of HP system is that it is not so sensitive to time changes as long as Moon remains in the same rasi. So , since Ramadasaji has given his predictions based on R10 position called BRL , in order to show that HP system can use any position of Rahu in R4, R1 ,R10 to predict the even with same result. As per HP, 4th house denotes Service. President of USA is a paid servent . Hence that is one reason, self is using R4 position of Rahu and the second reason is, R4 stands for Living quarters of the person and is a sensitive point on that count. Third most important reason to select R4 position is , Saturn's ingress in Kataka Rasi which is Rahu's favourit place as per HP theory. So the reading given is based on R4 postion and the lagna of Kerry taken for prediction is Vrischik . George W Bush' chart as per R4 position with Rahu in 4th house will be as follows. AQUARIUS.............Ascendent (YBL) CANCER ..............Natal Asc. TAURUS...............Rahu CANCER...............Sat, Ven, Merc LEO..................Mars VIRGO................Jup,Moon SCORPIO..............Ketu Dasa ................Sat-Jup-Venus Salient points of the horoscopes are as follows. He has a very strong 6th house placement of Saturn Mars is his Parakramadhipati in 7th And lord of 6th Moon in 8th aspected by Saturn. Venus is his 4th and 9th lord is with Lagnadhipati and 5th lord Mercury in 6th. Sun, the 7th lord in 5th in VM. What this means ? It means, he will use every trick available to him to win this election. As his opponent is in VM sign and his 3rd lord Mars is in 7th, He will completely overpower his opponent as the fight progresses. Decisive help will come from Rahu which aspects his 7th house with reverse aspect which has Mars in Leo in it. A SURPRISE IN THE FORM OF MAY BE OSAMA BIN LADEN'S CAPTURE or an Attack by so called FUNDAMENTALISTS and George Bush's actions there of would swing the scales in his favour. What prompts for such deduction? Kataka Rasi transit of Saturn is a direct attack by Saturn on most preferred place of Rahu , which is 4th sign/4th house His (Prez Bush's) domain is over most Americans who are not bothered about foreign policy . The only language they know is Gun and the only problems they understand are problems of local issues to their world.(America). Intelligentia are a minority spread in east and west coast but rest of America is a playground for people like Bush . These voters would rather watch a football game than hear political speeches by Kerry and Bush. Virginians would prefer to hear about Christianity and war than foreign policy. Hence He will again raise the bogie of satanic forces out to destroy America in next 30 days . Or produce/attack Osama Bi Laden or something more explosive happening in Middle east and create an opportunity to show his strong arm to the American public . To be contd.... vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@g...> wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> > Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:06:41 +0100 (BST) > Fwd: Re: My analysis on the two Presidential candidates > ramadasrao@g... > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Ramadas Rao > Rao Nemani > Sun, 26 Sep 2004 20:16:59 +0100 (BST) > Re: My analysis on the two Presidential candidates > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > Dear Rao, > > I had gone through your analysis of both charts and I would like to > comment on my part through HP Rahu's Centric Theory. > > Now what is Rahu Centric Theory ? Rahu is a badhaka for one's Karma as > 10th is between 9th and 11th.9th is Bhagya Sthana and 11th is Labha > Shana.Rahu is the planet of Maya or Illusion and he makes us false > promises.Rahu works like Shani,so he casts aspects like Shani > ie.,3rd,7th and 10th house.Now Rahu is also Serpent.A serpent widens > its mouth about 3 times to swallow its prey.Similarly as Rahu is also > a Serpent,the houses before and next to Rahu also have the poisons of > Rahu and hence these 2 houses are called Visha Mukha planets and any > planets there are called Visha Mukha planets.They give only evil > results.The same results can be had from Ketu and the 2 houses before > and next to Ketu.Now using these principles let me analyse the charts > of both presdient contestants in USA. > > Now let me analyse 1st the chart of George Bush.As per his chart,the > natal Lagna is Kataka with Rahu in 11th house.Now considering Rahu in > 10th house, count the houses backwards and we get Simha as Badha Rahu > Lagna or BRL.So Shani becomes 6th and 7th lord, Guru becomes 5th and > 8th lord,Chandra becomes 12th lord.Shukra is 3rd and 10th lord and is > the lord of sign occupied by Rahu.Now 12th from BRl, we have Budha , > Shukra and Shani .Kuja is in BRL.Now during Shani -Rahu between > 10-12-1999 and 1-10-2002 ( using 360 days per year ) Bush won the > elections and became the President of America.here the reason was > Shani being 6th lord placed in 12th along with Shukra,the 3rd lord and > 10th lord aspected by Rahu gave him powers due to Vipareetha Raja > Yoga.Now Shani - Guru is running from 01/10/2002 to 31/03/2005.During > the time of elections,Kuja's Pratyanatara is running from 22/09/2004 > to 14/11/2004.Kuja is the 4th and 9th lord from BRL placed in > Lagna.Guru is 5th and 8th lord placed in 2nd house, along with > Chandra.Here again both Guru and Chandra form Vipareetha raja Yoga.Now > Mesha becomes AL for BRL Simha and Kuja becomes the lord of AL from > this BRL and is aspected by Rahu by his backwards 10th aspect.dasha > Lord Shani aspects the Antar Dasha lord Guru and Shani's sign > dispositor Chandra also.Shani also aspects AL from BRL.So considering > all these points, it can be deduced that George Bush will again win in > the next elections and become the President of USA.Also Guru in > transit crosses over his Natal Guru and aspects natal Rahu and all > these indicate his gain in the elections again. > > Now coming to Kerry's chart, his natal Lagna is Simha with Guru in > that indicating he is a truthful person and dont know how to > manipulate things with common man.Here badha Rahu Lagna will be Tula > where its lord Shukra himself is there.Here Shani (V) is occupied 12th > from rahu indicating he is a Visha Mukha planet.Similarly Guru is in > 2nd to Rahu indicating another Visha Mukha Planet.Shani is a Yoga > Karaka for this BRL Tula but Guru becomes a malefic being the lord of > 3rd and 6th from BRL.Pratyanatara dasha lord Kuja is 7th and 2nd lord > placed in 8th along with Chandra indicating mass or people.At the time > of elections,Shani- Guru-Kuja is running from 09/10/2004 to > 02/12/2004.As explained above Shani and Guru are Visha Mukha planets > and Kuja is in 8th from BRL along with Chandra who is the sign > dispositor for Rahu ,all indicate his failure in the US Presidential > elections. > > I hope this helps you. > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > Rao Nemani <raon1008> wrote: > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Namaste Guru Ji, > > Here are the two messages, I have posted in VA list Y'day. Please go > thru my anlaysis and give your guidance. I have used a different birth > details of Kerry's, which are publicly available as this was given to > me by Sat Siri Khalsa Ji, in turn she got it directly from Kerry > himself. > > Regards > Raghunatha Rao > > ----- First Message 44598 ---- > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Namaste Gurus and Learned Members, > > Today, I have attempted to see on a very focused way of 2004 upcoming > Presidential Candidates (two native Bush and Kerry) charts. As usual, > I applied few different methods to see the result, so that I could > verify the things. > > Please have a look at this analysis and correct me wherever I am > wrong, so that I can learn from your replies. > > Bush-1:- > ======= > > I have considered the following birth details of Bush for this analysis:- > > July 6, 1946 > Time: 7:27:00 > Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 72 W 55' 43", 41 N 18' 29" > New Haven, Connecticut, USA > > From V-Dasa's:- > ============== > This native is running Sat-Jup-Merc and election date is 2nd Nov 2004, > so the Merc Pratyantar Dasa will be running during the election day > also. > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > Sat MD: 1987-05-14 (8:58:50) - 2006-05-13 (23:33:38) > Jup AD: 2003-10-31 (16:48:59) - 2006-05-13 (23:33:38) > Merc PD: 2004-07-27 (13:47:01) - 2004-12-05 (15:44:20) > > Here the Jup is 6th and 9th lord placed in 3rd house with Lagna Lord > Moon and being aspected by Rahu, who is 8th co-lord placed in 11th > house. > > Merc is the 3rd and 12th lord placed in Lagna with 4th and 11th lord > Venus along with 7th and 8th Lord Saturn. Lagna also have Mandi and > SL. Cn is being aspcted by Rahu, A3 ( From Ta) and Ketu,GL and AL from > Sc and A5 from 8th house Aq too. > > Bush-2:- > ======= > Let us see from my favourite Narayana Dasa point of View:- > > D-1:- > ==== > > The native will be running the following D-1 Narayana Dasa during the > election time:- > > Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa): > > Pi MD: 2000-07-05 (9:43:48) - 2006-07-05 (20:39:00) > Sc AD: 2004-07-05 (9:00:36) - 2005-01-03 (23:55:12) > Cp PD: 2004-10-19 (21:42:27) - 2004-11-04 (2:57:00) > > Sc Antar Dasa is in 5th house with GL and AL. Ketu the Antar Dasa > co-lord is placed in Antar Dasa it self and the Mars the other Lord > placed in Le with HL. Sc is 9th from the Pi Dasa Rasi too. > > Cp Pratyantar Dasa is 7th from lagna and 10th from Pi Dasa and 3rd > from Sc Antar Dasa. Cp Lord Sat is placed in Lagna and aspcting the Sc > and also aspecting the Cp rasi too. Here you will notice that GL and > SL are mutually aspecting. Bhoga of Cp is Li and having argala from Le > where Mar (Sc Antar Dasa's Lord) and HL is placed there. So with this > I can see a connection between GL,SL and HL on Cp's Bhoga and this is > a very good indication to be successful in his election. > > > So summary from here is Sc-Cn-Ar is a potentially good for his success. > > D-10:- > ===== > > The native will be running the following D-10 Narayana Dasa:- > > Narayana Dasa of D-10 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa): > > Cp MD: 2004-07-05 (9:00:36) - 2008-07-05 (8:17:24) > Ar AD: 2004-07-05 (9:00:36) - 2004-11-04 (2:57:00) > Sg PD: 2004-10-24 (23:27:18) - 2004-11-04 (2:57:00) > > Cp Maha Dasa which is 7th from D-10 Lagna and its Paaka is Ar and its > Bhoga is also Ar. Antar Dasa Ar is 10th from D-10 Lagna and 4th from > Cp Maha Dasa. Its Paaka is placed in Cp ( maha dasa sign) along with > Jup who is 6th and 9th lord ). Cp is being aspected by AL from Ta. Its > Bhoga D-10 Lagna itself and being aspected by HL from Aq. D-10 Lagna > have A10, A3 and A11 too. > > Now let us see the Sg Pratynar Dasa. Sg is 6th house from D-10 and it > is 12th from Maha Dasa and 9th from Ar Antar Dasa. Sg has D-10 Lagna > Lord moon, 2nd lord Sun and 3rd and 11th lord Venus along with GL and > Gulika. > Sg's Paaka is Cp which is nothing but Maha Dasa itself and its Bhoga > is Aq which has HL and A6 and A4 in it. This Aq is aspecting Ar where > its own lord Sat is placed, also aspecting Li where SL is placed and > lastly aspecting the D-10 Lagna too. > So this is a very good combination too. > > Bush-3:- > ======= > > Padanaathaamsa Dasa:- > ===================== > Here I am taking the Padanaathaamsa Dasa and will try to analyse > whether there are any indication for his success. > > Padanaathaamsa Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa): > > Li MD: 1998-07-05 (22:05:24) - 2007-07-06 (2:28:12) > Ar AD: 2004-07-05 (9:00:36) - 2005-04-05 (7:22:30) > Cp PD: 2004-10-27 (12:19:43) - 2004-11-19 (8:11:33) > > Ar Antar Dasa which is 6th from AL and its paaka is Le which is 10th > from AL. AL's lord Mars is placed in Le which is nothing but the Ar's > paaka lagna and HL is also placed there. You will also notice that HL. > This Mars is aspecting AL and GL too. > > Now Cp Pratyantar Dasa is 3rd from AL and its Paaka is D-1 Lagna and > this is placed in 9th from AL itself. You will also notice that Sc > where AL is placed is aspecting Cp ( Pratyantar Dasa), Ar (Antar Dasa) > and Cn (D-1 lagna along with SL) by Rasi Drishti, which is connecting > all the dasa and GL and SL too. > So this is also indicating a good time ahead. > > Bush-4:- > ======= > > Let me take the Tithi Pravesha to verify the above indications and > close my analysis with this. > > Annual T.P:- > =========== > June 25, 2004 > Time: 20:52:13 > Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 72 W 55' 43", 41 N 18' 29" > New Haven, Connecticut, USA > > Here the Hora Lord is Merc and he is 7th and 10th lord placed in 7th > house which is its own house along with 9th lord Sun and 2nd and 3rd > lord Sat, so that is good. Merc is aspecting lagna too. Gulika and > Mandi are placed in Pi and HL and Moon are placed in vi are aspecting > Lagna and Hora Lord too. Jup is aspecting Lagna by Graha Drishti. > > Lagna is placed in 6/8 with the Natal Lagna which is not a very good indication. > > Vaara Lord is Venus (Vakra), who is 6th and 11th lord placed in its > own house in Ta. > > Monthly T.P:- > =========== > October 20, 2004 > Time: 23:20:18 > Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 72 W 55' 43", 41 N 18' 29" > New Haven, Connecticut, USA > > Here the Hora Lord is Sat and he is 7th and 8th lord placed in Lagna, > so that is good. Moon and Sat has Parivartana hence Moon behaves like > as if it is in itw own house in Lagna too. This combination is being > aspected by GL and HL from Aq by Rasi Drishti. Sat is aspecting 10th > house where SL, AL and Rahu are placed. > > Lagna is Cn which is same as the Natal Lagna which is very good indication. > > Vaara Lord is Merc, who is 3rd and 12th Lord Placed in 4th house with > 2nd lord Sun and 5th co-lord Ketu. > > Now looking at the Tithi Astottari Dasa: > > Tithi Ashtottari Dasa of Janma tithi (useful especially in Tithi > Pravesha charts): > > Maha Dasas: > > Rah: 2004-10-18 (17:27:26) - 2004-10-21 (18:08:25) > Ven: 2004-10-21 (18:08:25) - 2004-10-27 (9:10:32) > Sun: 2004-10-27 (9:10:32) - 2004-10-29 (2:28:03) > Moon: 2004-10-29 (2:28:03) - 2004-11-02 (14:54:33) > Mars: 2004-11-02 (14:54:33) - 2004-11-05 (1:32:07) > Merc: 2004-11-05 (1:32:07) - 2004-11-09 (21:16:04) > Sat: 2004-11-09 (21:16:04) - 2004-11-12 (10:09:48) > Jup: 2004-11-12 (10:09:48) - 2004-11-17 (0:54:57) > Rah: 2004-11-17 (0:54:57) - 2004-11-20 (2:46:27) > > So during the Moon, Mars and Merc the election will be held and > results will be announced. So now looking at these Dasa's. Moon is in > 7th house and also has parivartana with Sat and aspecting the 7th > house. Mars is the Yogakaraka in this chart and also forming a > DharamaKarmadhi Pati Yoga with Jup. This Mars also forming a RajaYoga > with Jup too. So Mars Dasa is very good too. Next is Merc, who is > Vaara Lord and placed in 4th house and also involved in forming the > Brahma Yoga. > > > So looking at that level, This native's chances are very high to be > successful in the forthcoming elections. > > I will write another message on the other candidate (Kerry's) Analysis > separately, as this message is too long already. > > Regards > Raghunatha Rao > > > --- Second message 44599 --- > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Namaste Gurus and Learned Members, > > This is in continuation to my earlier analysis message, here I have > attempted to see the second 2004 Presidential Candidates (Kerry) > charts. As usual, I applied few different methods to see the result, > so that I could verify the things. > > Please have a look at this analysis and correct me wherever I am > wrong, so that I can learn from your replies. > > Kerry-1:- > ======= > > I have considered the following birth details of Kerry for this analysis:- > > December 11, 1943 > Time: 0:21:37 > Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 104 W 49' 53", 39 N 43' 46" > Aurora, Colorado, USA > > From V-Dasa's:- > ============== > This native is running Sat-Jup-Merc and election date is 2nd Nov 2004, > so the Merc Pratyantar Dasa will be running during the election day > also. > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > Sat MD: 1987-03-10 (13:59:32) - 2006-03-10 (4:34:20) > Jup AD: 2003-08-27 (21:49:41) - 2006-03-10 (4:34:20) > Ket PD: 2004-10-01 (20:45:02) - 2004-11-24 (20:08:38) > > Interestingly you will notice that, both these natives are running > Sat-Jup at the same time. > > Now here the Jup is 5th and 8th lord placed in Lagna. This Jup is > being aspected by Sat and Rahu too. Jup is being aspected by GL by > Rasi Drishti. Jup is placed in 4th from Moon. Lagna has A4 and Gulika > too. > > Ketu the Pratyantar Dasa Lord is placed in 6th house from Lagna and > also being aspected by Rahu who is placed in 12th house from lagna and > Rahu is the 7th lord. > > Kerry-2:- > ======= > Let us see from my favourite Narayana Dasa point of View:- > > D-1:- > ==== > > The native will be running the following D-1 Narayana Dasa during the > election time:- > > Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa): > > Ta MD: 2000-12-09 (20:06:01) - 2005-12-10 (1:12:01) > Cn AD: 2004-09-09 (11:55:31) - 2005-02-08 (16:21:01) > Aq PD: 2004-10-30 (5:24:01) - 2004-11-11 (21:46:09) > > Native is currenly running Cn Antar Dasa and which is 12th from D-1 > Lagn and 3rd from Ta Maha Dasa. Paaka of Cn is Ta which is nothing but > the Maha Dasa and it has SL and 4th and 9th lord Mar and 12th lord > Moon. Bhoga is SC which has Sun who is the Lagna Lord and A6 also > placed there. Rahu is aspecting Sc by Rasi Drishti. > > Aq Pratyantar Dasa, which is 7th from D-1 lagna, 10th from Ta Maha > Dasa and 8th from Cn Antar Dasa. This is again aspected by Rahu. Its > paaka is Cn and its Bhoga is Li and being aspected by Jup,Lagna(Le) > and SL(Ta) by Rashi Drishti. > > > So summary from here is Ta-Cn-Aq is a above average and may give success. > > D-10:- > ===== > > The native will be running the following D-10 Narayana Dasa:- > > Narayana Dasa of D-10 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa): > > Sc MD: 2003-12-10 (13:33:37) - 2010-12-10 (6:18:01) > Sg AD: 2004-07-10 (14:57:19) - 2005-02-08 (16:21:01) > Vi PD: 2004-10-25 (3:39:10) - 2004-11-11 (21:46:09) > > Sg Antar Dasa is 2nd from Sc Maha Dasa and 11th from D-10 Lagna. Its > Paaka is Vi which is 12th from Sc and 10th from Sg. Its Bhoga is Pi > and which is 6th from Sc and 4th from Sg and 2nd from D-10 Lagna. Sg > is being aspected by Rahu by Graha Drishti. Sat and Mara both are > retro are aspecting Sg rasi by Graha Drishti. But Jup is aspecting Sg > by Rasi drishti too. > > Vi Pratyantar Dasa, which is 12th from Sc Maha Dasa, 10th from Sg > antar Dasa and 8th from D-10 lagna. > > Its paaka is is Pi and which is 6th from Sc and 4th from Sg and 2nd > from D-10 Lagna. Its Bhoga is Ge which has Two retro planets Sat and > Mars. All these are being aspected as we have discussed above. > > > So summary from here is : In my opinion, Sc-Sg-Vi is not very promising. > > Kerry-3:- > ======= > > Padanaathaamsa Dasa:- > ===================== > Here I am taking the Padanaathaamsa Dasa and will try to analyse > whether there are any indication for his success. > > Padanaathaamsa Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa): > > Le MD: 1996-12-09 (20:49:13) - 2005-12-10 (1:12:01) > Cp AD: 2004-06-10 (4:28:13) - 2005-03-11 (2:50:07) > Sg PD: 2004-10-25 (3:39:10) - 2004-11-16 (23:31:00) > > Cp Antar Dasa is 3rd from AL and its lord Sat is placed in 8th from > AL. Cp has Ketu who is a co-lord of AL (Sc) and alos A8 is placed in > Cp. if you look at the Rasi Drishti point of view, Cp is being > aspected by Ar (GL is placed ), Cn ( where Rahu and A3 are placed ) > and Sc (AL, Sun and A6 are placed). > > Sg Pratyantar Dasa is 2nd from AL and its lord Jup is placed in Lagna > and also it is 10th from AL. Lagna has Gulika and A4 placed and being > aspected by Rahu from Cn by graha drishti. This Rahu is also aspecting > AL and Cp Antar Dasa too. > > > So I am not seeing much of promise from this Le-Cp-Sg dasa for his success. > > Kerry-4:- > ======= > > Let me take the Tithi Pravesha to verify the above indications and > close my analysis with this. > > Annual T.P:- > =========== > > December 8, 2003 > Time: 3:41:02 > Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 104 W 49' 53", 39 N 43' 46" > Aurora, Colorado, USA > > Hora Lord is Jup. Jup is 4th and 7th lord and he is placed in 12th > house. This is Jup is being aspected by Rahu and Sun (12th Lord) its > dispositor. Not a good indication. > > Vaara Lord is Sun who is 12th lord and placed in 3rd house being > aspected by Jup and Rahu. > > Lagna is Vi and Natal Lagna is Le, so these two are in 2/12 relationship ship. > Overall the Annual T.P is not very promising. > > Monthly T.P:- > =========== > > October 9, 2003 > Time: 14:55:58 > Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 104 W 49' 53", 39 N 43' 46" > Aurora, Colorado, USA > > Hora Lord is again Jup. Jup is 3rd and 12th lord and placed in 8th > house and being aspected by Rahu by Graha and Rasi Drishti. Sat is > also aspecting Jup by Graha Drishti from Ge. > > Vaara Lord is Jup, so the above is repeated again. > > Lagna is Cp and the Natal Lagna is Le, so these two are in 6/8 > relationship ship. Overall the Monthly T.P is not very promising too. > > > Summary of my analysis of the two charts are: > > > In my opinion, I am seeing a positive thing for Bush here, unless my > mind only seeing positive only today. Please review my analysis and > correct me wherever I am not correct. > > Regards > Raghunadha Rao > > ________________________________ > > Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/octet-stream name=Bush, George W.jhd > > > > ATTACHMENT part 3 application/octet-stream name=John Kerry.jhd > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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