[meant for shri rupkrishanji on date and time of end

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dear rupkrishanji

i will like to know where in vedas itis written

astrology learning is first step toward moksha or soul

libration

swami dayaanad was schholar he mention all math

calculative astrology is ok

but predictavive astrology is quistionable

i am not a critic of astrology if we can point out

weekness of a native and warn him to be watchfull with

the help of horoscope there is no harm

but 90 % the mind egocenter of the modern time will

lead

it to be a business and astrology may be manipulated

to the selfish ends.

what is importance of knowing the end time when the

end time is end ror you as physical unit i will like

to know if before the death i will achieve that turiya

 

state where time does not exist does the astrology

can figure out that

any one who is born in human form has capability to

achieve the highest everlasting bliss if only we do

what

gita says do the karma without attachments remain

center in self

it is science of soul

astrology just indiucate your genetic make up not soul

makeup we are more concern about our robe we are cover

with not the essence in all the robe

rajinder

--- Peter Richard <kairos wrote:

> So many men, so many opinions.

>

> In the end only Brahmaji knows the full story...

> -

> Rup Krishen Baqaya

> Peter Richard

> Sunday, May 30, 2004 11:08 PM

> Re: [vedic astrology] How to calculate

> Longetivity?

>

>

> Hello Peter, I personally know of at least two

> vedic astrologers who had predicted their exact

> date of death much in advance.To quote one

> example,there was this Pandit Narayan Jyotishi.In

> fact i am talking of the very early fifties when i

> must have been 6 years old and there was this friend

> of mine amongst others known as Nikku Ji,who used to

> play with me every day in the evening.What happened

> was that Nikku JI suddenly stopped coming to the

> playground and one could hear the voice of mantras

> being recited over a loudspeaker from his house.When

> this continued for few days i asked my late

> grandmother about what was happening.The grand

> venerable lady told me that Nikku Ji's grandfather

> Pandit Narayan Jyotishi is going to die on such and

> such day and he has desired that verses contained in

> each of the 18 chapters of Bhagwatgita be recited to

> him in a ceremonial manner for 18 days before his

> death,one chapter each day.Surprised about how

> anyone could know that Pandit Ji was going to die on

> such and such day,i again raised the querry before

> my grand mother.She told me that Pandit Ji was a

> great astrologer and used to be the court astrologer

> of the former king of Kashmir,Shri Partap Singh and

> had himself predicted the date of his death.And the

> prediction came correct to the dot,Pundit ji dying

> on the predicted day,soon after the 18th chapter of

> Gita was recited to him.This was in so far as

> predicting the date of death is concerned.In fact

> even i was able to predict the date of the death of

> my mother last year,on the basis of the movement of

> moon in my horoscope,but that was just about 20 days

> before the event,when she was already bedridden and

> condemned to death by doctors,on account of very

> advanced stage of liver cancer.However i had

> predicted the year and approximate month of her

> death a couple of years before the event.Considering

> everything,i would not say that it is not possible

> to detect the death from astrology,but it is no

> doubt a very very tough exercise,say like a liver

> transplant in surgery.Incidentally i may tell u here

> that i am not a professional astrologer and this is

> in no way being said to impress anyone.I am a very

> senior civil servant who is doing astrology as a

> hobby for 20 years now and u may treat this post as

> a mere exchange of thoughts.

> As regards ur other proposition about

> leaving the subject alone for it is replete with

> error and many mixed emotions,i have to state that

> what u say may be ok for those who do not do

> astrology,but cannot be acceptable in a group where

> astrology is being discussed perse.See calculating

> the date of death is a recognised exercise in

> astrology,no doubt difficult and therefore replete

> with error.But you do not stop doing an exercise

> just because it is difficult.In fact it should

> become more of a challenge if it is difficult and

> astrologers who want to excel at the subject should

> endeavour to do this exercise.About the emotional

> aspect i have to say that emotions should not affect

> the mindset of an astrologer,like they should not

> and do not affect the mindset of doctors when they

> find a patient dying.For an astrologer calculating

> the date of death should be like a mathematical

> problem to be done without any emotions.In any case

> death is the destiny of all of us,so why be afraid

> of it,when we know that one day it has to come.I

> hope i have been able to put the point across.See

> man,life or each day in life is a mixture of

> positive and negative for all of us.A true

> astrologer when he sees a horoscope is bound to see

> both positive and negative.From what i can see of ur

> post,u would like the astrologer to only tell the

> positive and ignore the negative.But that way the

> astrologer is neither being true to his client,nor

> to himself and not even to the science of

> astrology.True astrology is not about predicting.It

> is about learning harmony,to remain in a calm state

> of mind knowing well in advance what is likely to

> happen,both positive and negative.Neither to get

> disturbed by the negative nor elated by positive.The

> vedas say that learning astrology is one step

> towards liberation of the soul.Ponder over it and

> tell me ur views if u want to.Bye Rup Krishen

>

>

> Peter Richard <kairos wrote:

> Dear Gaurav,

>

> The short answer to your question on

> longevity calculation is to ask Brahmaji...

>

> Humanity is not sufficiently advanced that

> it can adequately deal with all the

> ramifications

> that such knowledge would bring.

>

> My humble advice is to leave that subject alone.

> It is replete with human error and many

> mixed emotions.

>

> Take care.

>

> Many blessings,

> Peter R.

>

>

> -

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> Sunday, May 30, 2004 7:30 PM

> [vedic astrology] How to calculate

> Longetivity?

>

>

> > Dear Gurujis,

> > Please accept my humble

> regards.For the two years am

> > intouch of Astrology.Sometimes my clients come

> to me to know their

> > Longetivity.But there are many ways of

> calculating the Longetivity.

> > Different methods give different results.But

> which one is the real

> > and actual one?If anyone helps me and shows me

> the ways of

> > Calculation,i will be very grateful.

> > Thanking You,

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> Yours Faithfully,

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