Hamsa Yoga Bhanga - Kerela Nadi

[Guest guest]

Dear Pradeep,

Mr Pasupulati is right, today I asked one of my guides and was at the receiving

end of his anger since he had sometime back taught me when MahaPurusha Yoga

BHANGAs happen.

 

Kerela Nadi Page 7

English translation: "If Jup is associated with or aspected by Saturn and/or

Venus is associated with Ketu, Malavya Yoga is nullified."

 

(I was told the above verse is applicable to Hamsa Yoga also)

 

Jayalalitha:

Hamsa Yoga: In her case would surely get canceled if we take the above case

Malavya Yoga: I am confused if this is getting Bhanga as Saturn surely aspects

Jup if we take retrogade planets should be assessed from previous house also.

 

To Mr. Pasupulathi,

In the above verse Sat and role of Ketu is given, would you be able to remember

the reference where 8th lord and Rahu is also mentioned. It would help me

refine my approach.

 

Regards,

Sunil John

Mumbai

 

 

 

Dear Shri PasupulatiJupiter also represents fat.When fat is not properly broken

down(when one is idle) it can also lead to unfulfilled lust.As Hamsa isSwan

,swimming and playing in water is understandable.Though presentin all cases,

this may be more pronounced in watery signs.Though not mentioned here, Jupiter

rules the natural 9th ,the houseof dharma, Sagittarius.Thus being Just is

inherent. Forestablishment of dharma, peaceful disposition may not be

efficientalways.Discretion to use what and where is important.When onesuffers a

lot because of peaceful disposition, one may understandand gain the practical

discretion, needed.Now as learned members have pointed out ,there are other

overallfactors combined with strength of yoga forming planet to judge

thefinal.ThanksPradeepvedic astrology, "plnlu2001"

<plnlu2001>wrote:>> Dear members,>> Pancha mahapurusha yoga is not an

infrequent yoga. But in many> cases we see that the persons lead ordinary life.

Somewhere I read> that a Panchamahapurusha yoga becomes defunct or gets toned

downif> the planet causing the yoga is with or aspected by the nodes or> Saturn

or 8th lord. In essence, like many other yogas, the> panchamahapurusha yoga

manifests fully or partially depending onthe> dignity and strength of the

planet causing the yoga, and the

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house. My copy of Brihat Parasara Hora, translated by sri.G.S.> Kapoor says the

following about Hamsa Yoga:>> The Hamsa native has voice like a hamsa (swan),

has a handsome> appearance and well developed nose. He is a king with

phlegmatic> temparament, honey like tawny coloured eyes, red coloured nails,>

sharp intelligence, sturdy cheeks, round forehead and beautiful> feet. He has

marks of matsya(fish), ankush(iron hook), dhanus(bow),> sankh(conch),

kamal(lotus) in his hands and feet. He is very> passionate and his lust remains

unfulfilled. He is 96 anguls in> height. He is fond of swimming and playing

games in watery places.> He enjoys life fully and as a ruler of land situated

between the> Ganga and Yamuna dies after attaining the age of 100 years.>> In

the above description, we do not find anywhere qualities> like broadmindedness,

being just, honoring elders, saints, being> dharmic, characteristics of jupiter.

On the other hand we see the> person is very passionate and lustful which is the

very antithesis> of Jupiter the planet of divine wisdom. The

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is> Jayalalitha's hamsa yoga need not make her a person who upholds> dharma in

letter and spirit.>> Jupiter is not considered an auspicious planet for Gemini>

ascendant. As pointed out by other learned members, Jupitersuffers> from

Kendradhipatya dosha and being staioned in 7th is a potent> maraka. He is

aspected by rahu from Aries. Unfortunately, seventh> house is the badhakastana

for Gemini lagna and jupiter beingbadhaka> is stationed in bhadhaka house. May

be it prevented her fromgetting> married. My understanding is badhaka lord,

planets with it and the> planets in badhaka house indicate the obstructions

caused by> previous birth sins. Jupiter's situation as badhaka inbadhakasthana>

may show dishonoring or causing trouble to elders,saints,religious>

institutions, spouse in previous birth.>> The 10th house (karmasthan) which

represents the work/public> work and fame, no doubt has exalted Venus causing

Malavya yoga but> it is sandwiched on one side by Sun and on the other side by

Rahu.> When the 10th house has papakarthari, one can not expect theperson> to

perform good karma. Moreover 10th house and Venus are aspectedby> Mars which

can make the person very aggreesive and proactive in> action.>> Time and again,

she humilated, insulted and harassed almost> every one who crossed her path or

criticized her. People may still> remember how she humiliated Sri. Vajpayee

during 1998-1999. During> her second tunure of cheifministership, she jailed

karunanidhi,and> put Vaiko behind bars and filed many cases against the news

paper> The Hindu. In fact Tamil nadu police went to Bangalore to take the>

editor of the paper N. Ram into custody without the knowledge of> Karnataka

police. Only supreme court intervention saved the dayand> the Central

government provided CISF security to the news paper> because they were not sure

of Tamil nadu police.>> During 1999 when trnsit Rahu was exactly on her natal

saturnand> transit saturn was in Aries where natal Rahu is, after lot ofdrama,>

she withdrew support to sri.Vajpayee and caused the 1999elections.> Of course

she lost her clout with central government. Now the> trnasit saturn has

retrograded in Cancer where her natal saturn is> and transit rahu is in Aries

where her natal rahu is.>> In Kanchi swami's horoscope, transit jupiter is in

the 8thhouse> from moon. Moreover the October solar eclipse occured in Virgo>

having transit jupiter, transit sun, transit venus and transitmars.> With so

many planets in transit in the 8th house from moon and an> eclipse occuring

there when Dasa and bhkthi are not very good can> cause lot of bad things. A

clear picture about the murder mayemerge> by the time jupiter leaves Virgo and

the Kanchi seer may come out> unscathed.>> Transit saturn has become retrograde

on the exact degree of> natal moon in Indian independence horoscope. The country

no doubtis> having searing experiences. 30 years back, in 1975 when Saturn>

entered Cancer emergency was imposed on the country. But Saturn> before leaving

cancer, punished the rulers by defeating congressand> Mrs.Indira gandhi and

heralding a

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thefirst time in> post independence history, there was a non-congress

government. I> only hope Saturn will punish the wrong doing rulers before

heleaves> Cancer in 2006.>> Ravana was a great devotee of lord Shiva. He was

also a great> musician who standardized veena and an expert in singing

Samaveda.> He might have had some of these pancha mahapursha yogas, but that>

did not make him a dharmic person.>> Dharmo Rakshathi rakshithiha>> Pasupulati.

[Guest guest]

Dear Sunil

 

Thanks for sharing this info from Nadi.

Why is strength association of jupiter important for Malavya yoga?

Can you pls ask your guide.May be as jupiter is the exaltation lord

of Venus and dhana karaka.

 

Now ofcourse conjunction or aspect will modify the purity.Also i

have read luminaries should not conjunct MP yoga planets for

fructification.

 

Thanks

Pradeep

 

 

vedic astrology, "Sunil John"

<suniljohn_2004@h...> wrote:

> Dear Pradeep,

> Mr Pasupulati is right, today I asked one of my guides and was at

the receiving end of his anger since he had sometime back taught me

when MahaPurusha Yoga BHANGAs happen.

>

> Kerela Nadi Page 7

> English translation: "If Jup is associated with or aspected by

Saturn and/or Venus is associated with Ketu, Malavya Yoga is

nullified."

>

> (I was told the above verse is applicable to Hamsa Yoga also)

>

> Jayalalitha:

> Hamsa Yoga: In her case would surely get canceled if we take the

above case

> Malavya Yoga: I am confused if this is getting Bhanga as Saturn

surely aspects Jup if we take retrogade planets should be assessed

from previous house also.

>

> To Mr. Pasupulathi,

> In the above verse Sat and role of Ketu is given, would you be

able to remember the reference where 8th lord and Rahu is also

mentioned. It would help me refine my approach.

>

> Regards,

> Sunil John

> Mumbai

>

>

>

> Dear Shri Pasupulati

>

> Jupiter also represents fat.When fat is not properly broken down

> (when one is idle) it can also lead to unfulfilled lust.As Hamsa is

> Swan ,swimming and playing in water is understandable.Though

present

> in all cases, this may be more pronounced in watery signs.

>

> Though not mentioned here, Jupiter rules the natural 9th ,the house

> of dharma, Sagittarius.Thus being Just is inherent. For

> establishment of dharma, peaceful disposition may not be efficient

> always.Discretion to use what and where is important.When one

> suffers a lot because of peaceful disposition, one may understand

> and gain the practical discretion, needed.

>

> Now as learned members have pointed out ,there are other overall

> factors combined with strength of yoga forming planet to judge the

> final.

>

> Thanks

> Pradeep

>

> vedic astrology, "plnlu2001"

<plnlu2001>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear members,

> >

> > Pancha mahapurusha yoga is not an infrequent yoga. But in many

> > cases we see that the persons lead ordinary life. Somewhere I

read

> > that a Panchamahapurusha yoga becomes defunct or gets toned down

> if

> > the planet causing the yoga is with or aspected by the nodes or

> > Saturn or 8th lord. In essence, like many other yogas, the

> > panchamahapurusha yoga manifests fully or partially depending on

> the

> > dignity and strength of the planet causing the yoga, and the <a

> href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=lord%20of"

> onmouseover="window.status='<a

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onmouseover="window.status='lord of'; return true;"

onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">lord of</a>'; return

true;"

> onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">lord of</a>

> > the house. My copy of Brihat Parasara Hora, translated by sri.

> G.S.

> > Kapoor says the following about Hamsa Yoga:

> >

> > The Hamsa native has voice like a hamsa (swan), has a handsome

> > appearance and well developed nose. He is a king with phlegmatic

> > temparament, honey like tawny coloured eyes, red coloured nails,

> > sharp intelligence, sturdy cheeks, round forehead and beautiful

> > feet. He has marks of matsya(fish), ankush(iron hook), dhanus

> (bow),

> > sankh(conch), kamal(lotus) in his hands and feet. He is very

> > passionate and his lust remains unfulfilled. He is 96 anguls in

> > height. He is fond of swimming and playing games in watery

places.

> > He enjoys life fully and as a ruler of land situated between the

> > Ganga and Yamuna dies after attaining the age of 100 years.

> >

> > In the above description, we do not find anywhere qualities

> > like broadmindedness, being just, honoring elders, saints, being

> > dharmic, characteristics of jupiter. On the other hand we see the

> > person is very passionate and lustful which is the very anti

> thesis

> > of Jupiter the planet of divine wisdom. The <a

> href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=bottom%20line"

> onmouseover="window.status='<a

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true;"

> onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">bottom line</a> is

> > Jayalalitha's hamsa yoga need not make her a person who upholds

> > dharma in letter and spirit.

> >

> > Jupiter is not considered an auspicious planet for Gemini

> > ascendant. As pointed out by other learned members, Jupiter

> suffers

> > from Kendradhipatya dosha and being staioned in 7th is a potent

> > maraka. He is aspected by rahu from Aries. Unfortunately, seventh

> > house is the badhakastana for Gemini lagna and jupiter being

> badhaka

> > is stationed in bhadhaka house. May be it prevented her from

> getting

> > married. My understanding is badhaka lord, planets with it and

the

> > planets in badhaka house indicate the obstructions caused by

> > previous birth sins. Jupiter's situation as badhaka in

> badhakasthana

> > may show dishonoring or causing trouble to elders,saints,

> religious

> > institutions, spouse in previous birth.

> >

> > The 10th house (karmasthan) which represents the work/public

> > work and fame, no doubt has exalted Venus causing Malavya yoga

but

> > it is sandwiched on one side by Sun and on the other side by

Rahu.

> > When the 10th house has papakarthari, one can not expect the

> person

> > to perform good karma. Moreover 10th house and Venus are aspected

> by

> > Mars which can make the person very aggreesive and proactive in

> > action.

> >

> > Time and again, she humilated, insulted and harassed almost

> > every one who crossed her path or criticized her. People may

still

> > remember how she humiliated Sri. Vajpayee during 1998-1999.

During

> > her second tunure of cheifministership, she jailed karunanidhi,

> and

> > put Vaiko behind bars and filed many cases against the news paper

> > The Hindu. In fact Tamil nadu police went to Bangalore to take

the

> > editor of the paper N. Ram into custody without the knowledge of

> > Karnataka police. Only supreme court intervention saved the day

> and

> > the Central government provided CISF security to the news paper

> > because they were not sure of Tamil nadu police.

> >

> > During 1999 when trnsit Rahu was exactly on her natal saturn

> and

> > transit saturn was in Aries where natal Rahu is, after lot of

> drama,

> > she withdrew support to sri.Vajpayee and caused the 1999

> elections.

> > Of course she lost her clout with central government. Now the

> > trnasit saturn has retrograded in Cancer where her natal saturn

is

> > and transit rahu is in Aries where her natal rahu is.

> >

> > In Kanchi swami's horoscope, transit jupiter is in the 8th

> house

> > from moon. Moreover the October solar eclipse occured in Virgo

> > having transit jupiter, transit sun, transit venus and transit

> mars.

> > With so many planets in transit in the 8th house from moon and an

> > eclipse occuring there when Dasa and bhkthi are not very good can

> > cause lot of bad things. A clear picture about the murder may

> emerge

> > by the time jupiter leaves Virgo and the Kanchi seer may come out

> > unscathed.

> >

> > Transit saturn has become retrograde on the exact degree of

> > natal moon in Indian independence horoscope. The country no doubt

> is

> > having searing experiences. 30 years back, in 1975 when Saturn

> > entered Cancer emergency was imposed on the country. But Saturn

> > before leaving cancer, punished the rulers by defeating congress

> and

> > Mrs.Indira gandhi and heralding a <a

> href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=new%20era"

> onmouseover="window.status='<a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=new%20era"

onmouseover="window.status='new era'; return true;"

onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">new era</a>'; return

true;"

> onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">new era</a>. For the

> first time in

> > post independence history, there was a non-congress government. I

> > only hope Saturn will punish the wrong doing rulers before he

> leaves

> > Cancer in 2006.

> >

> > Ravana was a great devotee of lord Shiva. He was also a great

> > musician who standardized veena and an expert in singing Sama

> veda.

> > He might have had some of these pancha mahapursha yogas, but that

> > did not make him a dharmic person.

> >

> > Dharmo Rakshathi rakshithiha

> >

> > Pasupulati.