Saturn's Transit over Amsha position (Examples)

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Dear Vijaydas ji,

 

It is better understood with some examples.

Examples given about Transit in Amsha position

concerned amply prove the dictums.

 

With some effort, the article by Mr.Chhaya was located and the

following two cases amply prove the rule about Saturn's transit over

amsha position of the 8th lord from the bhava in consideration.

 

EXAMPLE 1,

 

Male

 

Born 4.April 1954

TOB...06.10 AM

23N02..72E37

 

This man is born in Meena Lagna.

Fourth lord Mercury is in Vrishabha navamsha.with 28 Degrees 35 Mts.

Father of the native suffered Heart attack on 28 october 1984 when

Saturn was 23 degrees 44 mts in Tula rasi in Vrishabh Navamsh.

 

4th house is 8th from 9th house.

 

 

EXAMPLE 2,

 

Male

 

Born 21st July 1931

TOB....17.30

22N12..69E42

 

This man was born in Danur Lagna. Third house lord is Saturn in

Vrischik Navamsha.

This person died on 6th sept 2002 when Saturn was in Mithuna rasi and

Vrischik Navamsha.

 

3rd house is 8th from 8th .

 

Remarkable isn't it ?

 

These two examples prove truth of the dictum.

 

TATTADBHAVASHTMANSHE GOCHARE SHANI STHITE (or sanshite ?)

TATTATDBHAVA VINASHENA KLESHAM PRAPNOTI BHURISHA. ( DK Part 2,sloka

1014)

Meaning,

>From a given bhava, look for the

navamsha sign position of the 8th lord from that bhava.

Whenever Saturn transits this navamsha,

it will cause destruction and grief to the mentioned bhava.

 

Hope that learned friends would put in their examples.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

<vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> Dear Tatwam-Asi ji

> What do we mean by saying - 'when Saturn is transiting navamsha of

> 9th lord'.

> Does this mean whenever saturn is transiting a)the amsha sign of

9th

> lord or b)saturn is transiting a particular amsha ie 9th amsha

within

> the rashi in which 9th lord is placed.

> For case b - i will elaborate my doubt.Let us assume that 9th lord

is

> Moon and Moon occupies 2degrees in Makara in Rashi and hence

> occuppies Makara navamsha as well.In this case do we mean -

'whenever

> saturn transits the first 3.2 degrees of makara Rashi'(because

> 2degree is falling within the first navamsha ,0 to 3.2) ?

> Because when saturn transits exactly the navamsha position(3.2

> degrees) of a natal planet (9th lord here)the trnasit influence

will

> be very high.

> I will request you or learned members to clarify this doubt.

> Best regds

> Pradeep

>

> vedic astrology, "nameisego"

<nameisego>

> wrote:

> > Hello Friends,

> >

> > Transits are a very fascinating field, more so because when we

talk

> > of Transits, we are talking about a Dynamic moving picture of

> planets

> > instead of a static picture of Birth chart. (Hope this does not

> > create a controversy).

> >

> > On reading the remark " Does navamsha help nadi

> > predictions or is of no importance ? by a friend

> > in these columns,this remark brought to the mind

> > what the undersigned had read about transit

> > effects in amsha charts and also an article which

> > had been read some time back about Transit of

> > Saturn in Navamsha. The author Mr.Chhaya had

> > given some examples also.

> >

> > Both Brigu and Deva Keralam has following principles

> > on Transits of Saturn.

> >

> > Let us start with Devakeralam which says,

> >

> > TATTADBHAVASHTMANSHE GOCHARE SHANI STHITE (or sanshite ?)

> > TATTATDBHAVA VINASHENA KLESHAM PRAPNOTI BHURISHA. ( DK Part

2,sloka

> > 1014)

> >

> > Meaning, From a given bhava, look for the

> > navamsha sign position of the 8th lord from that.

> > Whenever Saturn transits this navamsha,

> > it will cause destruction and grief to the mentioned bhava.

> >

> > If this is a bit difficult to grasp, it can be explained

> > in the following manner.

> >

> > If Saturn is transiting navamsha of 11th lord,

> > the mother of the jathaka ,his vehicles, his place of stay and

> > education may suffer.

> >

> > If Saturn transits over navamsha of 9th lord, the person suffers

> > about money, speech and things indicated by 2nd house.

> >

> > The above principle seems to be a reflection of what Brigunadi

has

> to

> > say.

> >

> > LAGNESHANSHE SHATRU PEEDA SWAMATULA JANAVADHIM.....

> >

> > Meaning , "whatever navamsha occupied by Ascendent lord, when

> Saturn

> > passes over that amsha, the maternal side will suffer and things

> > indicated by 6th house will also be affected."

> >

> > Presently, Saturn is passing thro Mesha Navamsha.

> > So it would be interesting to know how it has affected people who

> > have planets in Mesha Navamsha and how it affects the bhava in

> > question.

> > If learned friends have an experience of extention of this

> principle

> > to transits of Rahu and Jupiter, they are requested sincerely to

> post

> > them.

> >

> > Please overlook and correct if any errors/ignorence is reflected

in

> > this posting.

> >

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

[Guest guest]

Fri, 25 Jun 2004 22:11:07 -0700 (PDT)

Sarajit Poddar sarajitp

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Saturn's Transit over Amsha position (Examples)

nameisego nameisego

In-<cbhqpi+bp07|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Tatvam-Asi,

My 9th house is Leo, with the 3rd lord from it, Venus is placed in Sagittarius

Navamsa. When my father passed away, Saturn was transiting over navamsa venus.

In my younger brother's case, 9th house happens to be Gemini with the 8th house

from it, lorded by Saturn. Saturn is placed in Sagittarius. So when Saturn

Transited that navamsa sign, our father passed away.

But in elder brother's case, 9th house is Pisces with the 3rd and 8th lord being

Venus and Mars/ Ketu. But none of them are placed in the Sagittarius Navamsa.

However, Sagittarius navamsa is placed with Sun, the naisargika Pitri Karaka.

Eventhough the 8th house rule did not apply, saturn's transit over the karaka

gave trouble.

Regards

Sarajit

 

 

 

nameisego <nameisego > wrote:

Dear Vijaydas ji,It is better understood with some examples.Examples given about

Transit in Amsha position concerned amply prove the dictums.With some effort,

the article by Mr.Chhaya was located and the following two cases amply prove

the rule about Saturn's transit over amsha position of the 8th lord from the

bhava in consideration.EXAMPLE 1,MaleBorn 4.April 1954TOB...06.10

AM23N02..72E37This man is born in Meena Lagna.Fourth lord Mercury is in

Vrishabha navamsha.with 28 Degrees 35 Mts.Father of the native suffered Heart

attack on 28 october 1984 when Saturn was 23 degrees 44 mts in Tula rasi in

Vrishabh Navamsh.4th house is 8th from 9th house.EXAMPLE 2,MaleBorn 21st July

1931TOB....17.3022N12..69E42This man was born in Danur

Lagna. Third house lord is Saturn in Vrischik Navamsha. This person died on 6th

sept 2002 when Saturn was in Mithuna rasi and Vrischik Navamsha.3rd house is

8th from 8th .Remarkable isn't it ?These two examples prove truth of the

dictum.TATTADBHAVASHTMANSHE GOCHARE SHANI STHITE (or sanshite ?)TATTATDBHAVA

VINASHENA KLESHAM PRAPNOTI BHURISHA. ( DK Part 2,sloka 1014)Meaning, From a

given bhava, look for the navamsha sign position of the 8th lord from that

bhava.Whenever Saturn transits this navamsha, it will cause destruction and

grief to the mentioned bhava.Hope that learned friends would put in their

examples.Tatvam-Asivedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

<vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:> Dear Tatwam-Asi ji> What do we mean by saying

- 'when Saturn is transiting navamsha of > 9th lord'.> Does this mean whenever

saturn is

transiting a)the amsha sign of 9th > lord or b)saturn is transiting a particular

amsha ie 9th amsha within > the rashi in which 9th lord is placed.> For case b -

i will elaborate my doubt.Let us assume that 9th lord is > Moon and Moon

occupies 2degrees in Makara in Rashi and hence > occuppies Makara navamsha as

well.In this case do we mean -'whenever > saturn transits the first 3.2 degrees

of makara Rashi'(because > 2degree is falling within the first navamsha ,0 to

3.2) ?> Because when saturn transits exactly the navamsha position(3.2 >

degrees) of a natal planet (9th lord here)the trnasit influence will > be very

high. > I will request you or learned members to clarify this doubt.> Best

regds> Pradeep> > vedic astrology, "nameisego"

<nameisego> > wrote:> > Hello Friends,> > > >

Transits are a very fascinating field, more so because when we talk > > of

Transits, we are talking about a Dynamic moving picture of > planets > >

instead of a static picture of Birth chart. (Hope this does not > > create a

controversy).> > > > On reading the remark " Does navamsha help nadi > >

predictions or is of no importance ? by a friend > > in these columns,this

remark brought to the mind > > what the undersigned had read about transit > >

effects in amsha charts and also an article which > > had been read some time

back about Transit of > > Saturn in Navamsha. The author Mr.Chhaya had > >

given some examples also.> > > > Both Brigu and Deva Keralam has following

principles > > on Transits of Saturn.> > > > Let us start with Devakeralam

which says,> > > >

TATTADBHAVASHTMANSHE GOCHARE SHANI STHITE (or sanshite ?)> > TATTATDBHAVA

VINASHENA KLESHAM PRAPNOTI BHURISHA. ( DK Part 2,sloka > > 1014)> > > >

Meaning, From a given bhava, look for the > > navamsha sign position of the 8th

lord from that. > > Whenever Saturn transits this navamsha, > > it will cause

destruction and grief to the mentioned bhava.> > > > If this is a bit difficult

to grasp, it can be explained > > in the following manner.> > > > If Saturn is

transiting navamsha of 11th lord, > > the mother of the jathaka ,his vehicles,

his place of stay and > > education may suffer.> > > > If Saturn transits over

navamsha of 9th lord, the person suffers > > about money, speech and things

indicated by 2nd house.> > > > The above principle seems to be a reflection of

what Brigunadi has

> to > > say.> > > > LAGNESHANSHE SHATRU PEEDA SWAMATULA JANAVADHIM.....> > > >

Meaning , "whatever navamsha occupied by Ascendent lord, when > Saturn > >

passes over that amsha, the maternal side will suffer and things > > indicated

by 6th house will also be affected."> > > > Presently, Saturn is passing thro

Mesha Navamsha.> > So it would be interesting to know how it has affected

people who > > have planets in Mesha Navamsha and how it affects the bhava in >

> question.> > If learned friends have an experience of extention of this >

principle > > to transits of Rahu and Jupiter, they are requested sincerely to

> post > > them.> > > > Please overlook and correct if any errors/ignorence is

reflected in > > this posting.> > > > > >

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Hi Everyone,

Isn't this just a post mortem technique, can we use only transits to

discuss such grave issues, and to successfully predict the real cruz

would be when this technique is applied on blind charts.

 

This is not intended towards anyone, giving examples only on transits

are not useful for students of astrology, when we get a chart ,using

only transits are not much use, it is always beneficial to use

composite techniques as given in most of the books by K.N.Rao and his

associates where HOW EXACTLY to synthesise multiple techniques are

illustrated with repeatable success. Discussing sole techniques can

be illusionairy to most students of this list.

 

 

Most of the techniques which are transit driven in Deva Keralam ,

fall flat when individualy applied and have LESS predictive value

unless we combine with Dasha, can someone come out with the secrets

of dashas combined with transits where such fatal predictions are

given. That would be a master's post.

 

Regards,

Sushmita

 

vedic astrology, Noname Noname

<nameisego> wrote:

>

>

> Note: forwarded message attached.

>

>

>

>

>

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

> Dear Tatvam-Asi,

>

> My 9th house is Leo, with the 3rd lord from it, Venus is placed in

Sagittarius Navamsa. When my father passed away, Saturn was

transiting over navamsa venus.

>

> In my younger brother's case, 9th house happens to be Gemini with

the 8th house from it, lorded by Saturn. Saturn is placed in

Sagittarius. So when Saturn Transited that navamsa sign, our father

passed away.

>

> But in elder brother's case, 9th house is Pisces with the 3rd and

8th lord being Venus and Mars/ Ketu. But none of them are placed in

the Sagittarius Navamsa. However, Sagittarius navamsa is placed with

Sun, the naisargika Pitri Karaka. Eventhough the 8th house rule did

not apply, saturn's transit over the karaka gave trouble.

>

> Regards

>

> Sarajit

>

>

nameisego <nameisego> wrote:

> Dear Vijaydas ji,

>

> It is better understood with some examples.

> Examples given about Transit in Amsha position

> concerned amply prove the dictums.

>

> With some effort, the article by Mr.Chhaya was located and the

> following two cases amply prove the rule about Saturn's transit

over

> amsha position of the 8th lord from the bhava in consideration.

>

> EXAMPLE 1,

>

> Male

>

> Born 4.April 1954

> TOB...06.10 AM

> 23N02..72E37

>

> This man is born in Meena Lagna.

> Fourth lord Mercury is in Vrishabha navamsha.with 28 Degrees 35 Mts.

> Father of the native suffered Heart attack on 28 october 1984 when

> Saturn was 23 degrees 44 mts in Tula rasi in Vrishabh Navamsh.

>

> 4th house is 8th from 9th house.

>

>

> EXAMPLE 2,

>

> Male

>

> Born 21st July 1931

> TOB....17.30

> 22N12..69E42

>

> This man was born in Danur Lagna. Third house lord is Saturn in

> Vrischik Navamsha.

> This person died on 6th sept 2002 when Saturn was in Mithuna rasi

and

> Vrischik Navamsha.

>

> 3rd house is 8th from 8th .

>

> Remarkable isn't it ?

>

> These two examples prove truth of the dictum.

>

> TATTADBHAVASHTMANSHE GOCHARE SHANI STHITE (or sanshite ?)

> TATTATDBHAVA VINASHENA KLESHAM PRAPNOTI BHURISHA. ( DK Part 2,sloka

> 1014)

> Meaning,

> From a given bhava, look for the

> navamsha sign position of the 8th lord from that bhava.

> Whenever Saturn transits this navamsha,

> it will cause destruction and grief to the mentioned bhava.

>

> Hope that learned friends would put in their examples.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > Dear Tatwam-Asi ji

> > What do we mean by saying - 'when Saturn is transiting navamsha

of

> > 9th lord'.

> > Does this mean whenever saturn is transiting a)the amsha sign of

> 9th

> > lord or b)saturn is transiting a particular amsha ie 9th amsha

> within

> > the rashi in which 9th lord is placed.

> > For case b - i will elaborate my doubt.Let us assume that 9th

lord

> is

> > Moon and Moon occupies 2degrees in Makara in Rashi and hence

> > occuppies Makara navamsha as well.In this case do we mean -

> 'whenever

> > saturn transits the first 3.2 degrees of makara Rashi'(because

> > 2degree is falling within the first navamsha ,0 to 3.2) ?

> > Because when saturn transits exactly the navamsha position(3.2

> > degrees) of a natal planet (9th lord here)the trnasit influence

> will

> > be very high.

> > I will request you or learned members to clarify this doubt.

> > Best regds

> > Pradeep

> >

> > vedic astrology, "nameisego"

> <nameisego>

> > wrote:

> > > Hello Friends,

> > >

> > > Transits are a very fascinating field, more so because when we

> talk

> > > of Transits, we are talking about a Dynamic moving picture of

> > planets

> > > instead of a static picture of Birth chart. (Hope this does not

> > > create a controversy).

> > >

> > > On reading the remark " Does navamsha help nadi

> > > predictions or is of no importance ? by a friend

> > > in these columns,this remark brought to the mind

> > > what the undersigned had read about transit

> > > effects in amsha charts and also an article which

> > > had been read some time back about Transit of

> > > Saturn in Navamsha. The author Mr.Chhaya had

> > > given some examples also.

> > >

> > > Both Brigu and Deva Keralam has following principles

> > > on Transits of Saturn.

> > >

> > > Let us start with Devakeralam which says,

> > >

> > > TATTADBHAVASHTMANSHE GOCHARE SHANI STHITE (or sanshite ?)

> > > TATTATDBHAVA VINASHENA KLESHAM PRAPNOTI BHURISHA. ( DK Part

> 2,sloka

> > > 1014)

> > >

> > > Meaning, From a given bhava, look for the

> > > navamsha sign position of the 8th lord from that.

> > > Whenever Saturn transits this navamsha,

> > > it will cause destruction and grief to the mentioned bhava.

> > >

> > > If this is a bit difficult to grasp, it can be explained

> > > in the following manner.

> > >

> > > If Saturn is transiting navamsha of 11th lord,

> > > the mother of the jathaka ,his vehicles, his place of stay and

> > > education may suffer.

> > >

> > > If Saturn transits over navamsha of 9th lord, the person

suffers

> > > about money, speech and things indicated by 2nd house.

> > >

> > > The above principle seems to be a reflection of what Brigunadi

> has

> > to

> > > say.

> > >

> > > LAGNESHANSHE SHATRU PEEDA SWAMATULA JANAVADHIM.....

> > >

> > > Meaning , "whatever navamsha occupied by Ascendent lord, when

> > Saturn

> > > passes over that amsha, the maternal side will suffer and

things

> > > indicated by 6th house will also be affected."

> > >

> > > Presently, Saturn is passing thro Mesha Navamsha.

> > > So it would be interesting to know how it has affected people

who

> > > have planets in Mesha Navamsha and how it affects the bhava in

> > > question.

> > > If learned friends have an experience of extention of this

> > principle

> > > to transits of Rahu and Jupiter, they are requested sincerely

to

> > post

> > > them.

> > >

> > > Please overlook and correct if any errors/ignorence is

reflected

> in

> > > this posting.

> > >

> > >

> > > Tatvam-Asi

>

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[Guest guest]

Hello Ms.Sushmita,

 

No astrologer in dreams would predict a major event like death seeing

just one component like the amasa transit.

All factors contributing to such an event are taken into account and

a prediction is given.

 

A post motem you say ?

May be Sushmitaji (If you really are Sushmita)does not know that a

priciple was being discussed. Not only K.N Rao but all astrologers

should study a chart in maximum possible ways and using various

methods known by them, should predict such grave issues.

 

You would make people laugh if you say that Transits are not useful

in predicting events.

How many techniques of Daiva Keralam have you used and found to fall

flat madam ? And what makes you say that Deva-Keralam is based only

on Transit techniques?

 

If you are well conversant with various methods, a chart will be

given to you.

Let's see how you are predicting even basic things seeing that chart.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "sushmita34"

<sushmita34> wrote:

> Hi Everyone,

> Isn't this just a post mortem technique, can we use only transits

to

> discuss such grave issues, and to successfully predict the real

cruz

> would be when this technique is applied on blind charts.

>

> This is not intended towards anyone, giving examples only on

transits

> are not useful for students of astrology, when we get a

chart ,using

> only transits are not much use, it is always beneficial to use

> composite techniques as given in most of the books by K.N.Rao and

his

> associates where HOW EXACTLY to synthesise multiple techniques are

> illustrated with repeatable success. Discussing sole techniques can

> be illusionairy to most students of this list.

>

>

> Most of the techniques which are transit driven in Deva Keralam ,

> fall flat when individualy applied and have LESS predictive value

> unless we combine with Dasha, can someone come out with the secrets

> of dashas combined with transits where such fatal predictions are

> given. That would be a master's post.

>

> Regards,

> Sushmita

>

> !

[Guest guest]

Nameisego

May be Sushmitaji (If you really are Sushmita)does not know that a

> priciple was being discussed.

 

I am sorry if I understood the posts wrongly, but my intention was to

highlight that things must be discussed more holistically especially

if it is such a grave issue, since such transits repeat in frequent

or max 30 year cycle, death doesn't occur every time.

 

You really know how to get personal and rub people the wrong way

don't you. Atleast I have a name, do you have one.

Just because I defended Partha, you have written this. Do you

understand how much damage your mails can do, I hear that Partha has

gone into a depression maybe due to you and Aman Sood and he would be

leaving astrology for some years. Do you realise the damage that you

do.

 

I had only said that discussing an event should be complete from dasa

and transits, I didn't mean that transits don't give results.

 

I do not post on this as a scholar, you do, you say that a chart

would be given to me, how come you haven't so far predicted on the

blind charts posted this month. I haven't seen a single attempt from

you or did I miss those mails.

 

Did you post your birth details on the list when someone asked you

to? Not that I am interesting in knowing them.

 

Since you are the scholar, how about you going through 5 blind charts

and predicting on 10 events with dates & esp the date of death.

 

If you feel I am going to get into a exchange of mails without any

astrological content to it, you would be wrong esp not with you

 

Honey attracts more than a sour fruit. Distribution of knowledge is

an ART that very few know, see the following of Narasimha and Sanjay

Rath, inspite of their strictness people worship them and love them.

 

Sushmita

 

 

vedic astrology, "nameisego" <nameisego>

wrote:

>

> Hello Ms.Sushmita,

>

> No astrologer in dreams would predict a major event like death

seeing

> just one component like the amasa transit.

> All factors contributing to such an event are taken into account

and

> a prediction is given.

>

> A post motem you say ?

> May be Sushmitaji (If you really are Sushmita)does not know that a

> priciple was being discussed. Not only K.N Rao but all astrologers

> should study a chart in maximum possible ways and using various

> methods known by them, should predict such grave issues.

>

> You would make people laugh if you say that Transits are not useful

> in predicting events.

> How many techniques of Daiva Keralam have you used and found to

fall

> flat madam ? And what makes you say that Deva-Keralam is based only

> on Transit techniques?

>

> If you are well conversant with various methods, a chart will be

> given to you.

> Let's see how you are predicting even basic things seeing that

chart.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "sushmita34"

> <sushmita34> wrote:

> > Hi Everyone,

> > Isn't this just a post mortem technique, can we use only transits

> to

> > discuss such grave issues, and to successfully predict the real

> cruz

> > would be when this technique is applied on blind charts.

> >

> > This is not intended towards anyone, giving examples only on

> transits

> > are not useful for students of astrology, when we get a

> chart ,using

> > only transits are not much use, it is always beneficial to use

> > composite techniques as given in most of the books by K.N.Rao and

> his

> > associates where HOW EXACTLY to synthesise multiple techniques

are

> > illustrated with repeatable success. Discussing sole techniques

can

> > be illusionairy to most students of this list.

> >

> >

> > Most of the techniques which are transit driven in Deva Keralam ,

> > fall flat when individualy applied and have LESS predictive value

> > unless we combine with Dasha, can someone come out with the

secrets

> > of dashas combined with transits where such fatal predictions are

> > given. That would be a master's post.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Sushmita

> >

> > !

[Guest guest]

Hello Ms.Sushmita,

You may not be aware that a personal mail exachnge has taken place

between self and Partha.

 

Your accusation that Partha would be leaving astrology because of

this being and a character called Aman sood is extremely far fetched.

 

This is not only far fetched but just Ridiculous.

It sounds so ridiculous that the story of

"A man who died because a betel leaf fell on his head." seems more

probable.

 

Posting more on this and increasing the friction would serve no

purpose.

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "sushmita34"

<sushmita34> wrote:

> Nameisego

> May be Sushmitaji (If you really are Sushmita)does not know that a

> > priciple was being discussed.

>

> I am sorry if I understood the posts wrongly, but my intention was

to

> highlight that things must be discussed more holistically

especially

> if it is such a grave issue, since such transits repeat in frequent

> or max 30 year cycle, death doesn't occur every time.

>

> You really know how to get personal and rub people the wrong way

> don't you. Atleast I have a name, do you have one.

> Just because I defended Partha, you have written this. Do you

> understand how much damage your mails can do, I hear that Partha

has

> gone into a depression maybe due to you and Aman Sood and he would

be

> leaving astrology for some years. Do you realise the damage that

you

> do.

>

> I had only said that discussing an event should be complete from

dasa

> and transits, I didn't mean that transits don't give results.

>

> I do not post on this as a scholar, you do, you say that a chart

> would be given to me, how come you haven't so far predicted on the

> blind charts posted this month. I haven't seen a single attempt

from

> you or did I miss those mails.

>

> Did you post your birth details on the list when someone asked you

> to? Not that I am interesting in knowing them.

>

> Since you are the scholar, how about you going through 5 blind

charts

> and predicting on 10 events with dates & esp the date of death.

>

> If you feel I am going to get into a exchange of mails without any

> astrological content to it, you would be wrong esp not with you

>

> Honey attracts more than a sour fruit. Distribution of knowledge is

> an ART that very few know, see the following of Narasimha and

Sanjay

> Rath, inspite of their strictness people worship them and love them.

>

> Sushmita

>

>

> vedic astrology, "nameisego"

<nameisego>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Ms.Sushmita,

> >

> > No astrologer in dreams would predict a major event like death

> seeing

> > just one component like the amasa transit.

> > All factors contributing to such an event are taken into account

> and

> > a prediction is given.

> >

> > A post motem you say ?

> > May be Sushmitaji (If you really are Sushmita)does not know that

a

> > priciple was being discussed. Not only K.N Rao but all

astrologers

> > should study a chart in maximum possible ways and using various

> > methods known by them, should predict such grave issues.

> >

> > You would make people laugh if you say that Transits are not

useful

> > in predicting events.

> > How many techniques of Daiva Keralam have you used and found to

> fall

> > flat madam ? And what makes you say that Deva-Keralam is based

only

> > on Transit techniques?

> >

> > If you are well conversant with various methods, a chart will be

> > given to you.

> > Let's see how you are predicting even basic things seeing that

> chart.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "sushmita34"

> > <sushmita34> wrote:

> > > Hi Everyone,

> > > Isn't this just a post mortem technique, can we use only

transits

> > to

> > > discuss such grave issues, and to successfully predict the real

> > cruz

> > > would be when this technique is applied on blind charts.

> > >

> > > This is not intended towards anyone, giving examples only on

> > transits

> > > are not useful for students of astrology, when we get a

> > chart ,using

> > > only transits are not much use, it is always beneficial to use

> > > composite techniques as given in most of the books by K.N.Rao

and

> > his

> > > associates where HOW EXACTLY to synthesise multiple techniques

> are

> > > illustrated with repeatable success. Discussing sole techniques

> can

> > > be illusionairy to most students of this list.

> > >

> > >

> > > Most of the techniques which are transit driven in Deva

Keralam ,

> > > fall flat when individualy applied and have LESS predictive

value

> > > unless we combine with Dasha, can someone come out with the

> secrets

> > > of dashas combined with transits where such fatal predictions

are

> > > given. That would be a master's post.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Sushmita

> > >

> > > !

[Guest guest]

I didn't accuse you or Aman Sood directly, hence I used the

word "maybe" if you read the mail carefully. I was only trying to

highlight that through your previous mails on the list and "if you

are really Sushmita" line, that you get too personal in the wrong

way . Let's face it, you haven't been the epitome of sweetness and

grace on the list.

 

Why do you think, Partha has left the list and gone into sanyas. If

it wasn't you or Aman Sood then for what reason?

 

Your not replying on other points in my previous email shows that you

do not want to accept the blind charts analysis. You write such lines

to me "a chart would be GIVEN to you" shows great authority and

scholarliness hence I thought first you should prove your authority

on the subject since so far I haven't seen an astro book having an

author printed "nonameisego" or "undersigned". Most of us including

myself are learners still and trying to grapple this science.

 

Yes, one thing you are right on, that is posting more on this would

be fruitless.

 

Goodbye for now.

 

Sush

 

 

vedic astrology, "nameisego" <nameisego>

wrote:

>

> Hello Ms.Sushmita,

> You may not be aware that a personal mail exachnge has taken place

> between self and Partha.

>

> Your accusation that Partha would be leaving astrology because of

> this being and a character called Aman sood is extremely far

fetched.

>

> This is not only far fetched but just Ridiculous.

> It sounds so ridiculous that the story of

> "A man who died because a betel leaf fell on his head." seems more

> probable.

>

> Posting more on this and increasing the friction would serve no

> purpose.

> Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "sushmita34"

> <sushmita34> wrote:

> > Nameisego

> > May be Sushmitaji (If you really are Sushmita)does not know that

a

> > > priciple was being discussed.

> >

> > I am sorry if I understood the posts wrongly, but my intention

was

> to

> > highlight that things must be discussed more holistically

> especially

> > if it is such a grave issue, since such transits repeat in

frequent

> > or max 30 year cycle, death doesn't occur every time.

> >

> > You really know how to get personal and rub people the wrong way

> > don't you. Atleast I have a name, do you have one.

> > Just because I defended Partha, you have written this. Do you

> > understand how much damage your mails can do, I hear that Partha

> has

> > gone into a depression maybe due to you and Aman Sood and he

would

> be

> > leaving astrology for some years. Do you realise the damage that

> you

> > do.

> >

> > I had only said that discussing an event should be complete from

> dasa

> > and transits, I didn't mean that transits don't give results.

> >

> > I do not post on this as a scholar, you do, you say that a chart

> > would be given to me, how come you haven't so far predicted on

the

> > blind charts posted this month. I haven't seen a single attempt

> from

> > you or did I miss those mails.

> >

> > Did you post your birth details on the list when someone asked

you

> > to? Not that I am interesting in knowing them.

> >

> > Since you are the scholar, how about you going through 5 blind

> charts

> > and predicting on 10 events with dates & esp the date of death.

> >

> > If you feel I am going to get into a exchange of mails without

any

> > astrological content to it, you would be wrong esp not with you

> >

> > Honey attracts more than a sour fruit. Distribution of knowledge

is

> > an ART that very few know, see the following of Narasimha and

> Sanjay

> > Rath, inspite of their strictness people worship them and love

them.

> >

> > Sushmita

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "nameisego"

> <nameisego>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello Ms.Sushmita,

> > >

> > > No astrologer in dreams would predict a major event like death

> > seeing

> > > just one component like the amasa transit.

> > > All factors contributing to such an event are taken into

account

> > and

> > > a prediction is given.

> > >

> > > A post motem you say ?

> > > May be Sushmitaji (If you really are Sushmita)does not know

that

> a

> > > priciple was being discussed. Not only K.N Rao but all

> astrologers

> > > should study a chart in maximum possible ways and using various

> > > methods known by them, should predict such grave issues.

> > >

> > > You would make people laugh if you say that Transits are not

> useful

> > > in predicting events.

> > > How many techniques of Daiva Keralam have you used and found to

> > fall

> > > flat madam ? And what makes you say that Deva-Keralam is based

> only

> > > on Transit techniques?

> > >

> > > If you are well conversant with various methods, a chart will

be

> > > given to you.

> > > Let's see how you are predicting even basic things seeing that

> > chart.

> > >

> > > Tatvam-Asi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "sushmita34"

> > > <sushmita34> wrote:

> > > > Hi Everyone,

> > > > Isn't this just a post mortem technique, can we use only

> transits

> > > to

> > > > discuss such grave issues, and to successfully predict the

real

> > > cruz

> > > > would be when this technique is applied on blind charts.

> > > >

> > > > This is not intended towards anyone, giving examples only on

> > > transits

> > > > are not useful for students of astrology, when we get a

> > > chart ,using

> > > > only transits are not much use, it is always beneficial to

use

> > > > composite techniques as given in most of the books by K.N.Rao

> and

> > > his

> > > > associates where HOW EXACTLY to synthesise multiple

techniques

> > are

> > > > illustrated with repeatable success. Discussing sole

techniques

> > can

> > > > be illusionairy to most students of this list.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Most of the techniques which are transit driven in Deva

> Keralam ,

> > > > fall flat when individualy applied and have LESS predictive

> value

> > > > unless we combine with Dasha, can someone come out with the

> > secrets

> > > > of dashas combined with transits where such fatal predictions

> are

> > > > given. That would be a master's post.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Sushmita

> > > >

> > > > !

[Guest guest]

Dear Tatwamasi ji

 

pls call me pradeep.

Thanks for the examples.

I still have lots of basic doubts regarding these.The cause for the

events in the examples can/cannot be due to the said transits.

 

I am bit busy at the moment and hence will do more reading and write

back later.Vinayji had pointed out about Bhrigu transit methods as

well.

 

 

Thanks for the examples.

Pradeep

 

vedic astrology, "nameisego" <nameisego>

wrote:

> Dear Vijaydas ji,

>

> It is better understood with some examples.

> Examples given about Transit in Amsha position

> concerned amply prove the dictums.

>

> With some effort, the article by Mr.Chhaya was located and the

> following two cases amply prove the rule about Saturn's transit

over

> amsha position of the 8th lord from the bhava in consideration.

>

> EXAMPLE 1,

>

> Male

>

> Born 4.April 1954

> TOB...06.10 AM

> 23N02..72E37

>

> This man is born in Meena Lagna.

> Fourth lord Mercury is in Vrishabha navamsha.with 28 Degrees 35 Mts.

> Father of the native suffered Heart attack on 28 october 1984 when

> Saturn was 23 degrees 44 mts in Tula rasi in Vrishabh Navamsh.

>

> 4th house is 8th from 9th house.

>

>

> EXAMPLE 2,

>

> Male

>

> Born 21st July 1931

> TOB....17.30

> 22N12..69E42

>

> This man was born in Danur Lagna. Third house lord is Saturn in

> Vrischik Navamsha.

> This person died on 6th sept 2002 when Saturn was in Mithuna rasi

and

> Vrischik Navamsha.

>

> 3rd house is 8th from 8th .

>

> Remarkable isn't it ?

>

> These two examples prove truth of the dictum.

>

> TATTADBHAVASHTMANSHE GOCHARE SHANI STHITE (or sanshite ?)

> TATTATDBHAVA VINASHENA KLESHAM PRAPNOTI BHURISHA. ( DK Part 2,sloka

> 1014)

> Meaning,

> From a given bhava, look for the

> navamsha sign position of the 8th lord from that bhava.

> Whenever Saturn transits this navamsha,

> it will cause destruction and grief to the mentioned bhava.

>

> Hope that learned friends would put in their examples.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > Dear Tatwam-Asi ji

> > What do we mean by saying - 'when Saturn is transiting navamsha

of

> > 9th lord'.

> > Does this mean whenever saturn is transiting a)the amsha sign of

> 9th

> > lord or b)saturn is transiting a particular amsha ie 9th amsha

> within

> > the rashi in which 9th lord is placed.

> > For case b - i will elaborate my doubt.Let us assume that 9th

lord

> is

> > Moon and Moon occupies 2degrees in Makara in Rashi and hence

> > occuppies Makara navamsha as well.In this case do we mean -

> 'whenever

> > saturn transits the first 3.2 degrees of makara Rashi'(because

> > 2degree is falling within the first navamsha ,0 to 3.2) ?

> > Because when saturn transits exactly the navamsha position(3.2

> > degrees) of a natal planet (9th lord here)the trnasit influence

> will

> > be very high.

> > I will request you or learned members to clarify this doubt.

> > Best regds

> > Pradeep

> >

> > vedic astrology, "nameisego"

> <nameisego>

> > wrote:

> > > Hello Friends,

> > >

> > > Transits are a very fascinating field, more so because when we

> talk

> > > of Transits, we are talking about a Dynamic moving picture of

> > planets

> > > instead of a static picture of Birth chart. (Hope this does not

> > > create a controversy).

> > >

> > > On reading the remark " Does navamsha help nadi

> > > predictions or is of no importance ? by a friend

> > > in these columns,this remark brought to the mind

> > > what the undersigned had read about transit

> > > effects in amsha charts and also an article which

> > > had been read some time back about Transit of

> > > Saturn in Navamsha. The author Mr.Chhaya had

> > > given some examples also.

> > >

> > > Both Brigu and Deva Keralam has following principles

> > > on Transits of Saturn.

> > >

> > > Let us start with Devakeralam which says,

> > >

> > > TATTADBHAVASHTMANSHE GOCHARE SHANI STHITE (or sanshite ?)

> > > TATTATDBHAVA VINASHENA KLESHAM PRAPNOTI BHURISHA. ( DK Part

> 2,sloka

> > > 1014)

> > >

> > > Meaning, From a given bhava, look for the

> > > navamsha sign position of the 8th lord from that.

> > > Whenever Saturn transits this navamsha,

> > > it will cause destruction and grief to the mentioned bhava.

> > >

> > > If this is a bit difficult to grasp, it can be explained

> > > in the following manner.

> > >

> > > If Saturn is transiting navamsha of 11th lord,

> > > the mother of the jathaka ,his vehicles, his place of stay and

> > > education may suffer.

> > >

> > > If Saturn transits over navamsha of 9th lord, the person

suffers

> > > about money, speech and things indicated by 2nd house.

> > >

> > > The above principle seems to be a reflection of what Brigunadi

> has

> > to

> > > say.

> > >

> > > LAGNESHANSHE SHATRU PEEDA SWAMATULA JANAVADHIM.....

> > >

> > > Meaning , "whatever navamsha occupied by Ascendent lord, when

> > Saturn

> > > passes over that amsha, the maternal side will suffer and

things

> > > indicated by 6th house will also be affected."

> > >

> > > Presently, Saturn is passing thro Mesha Navamsha.

> > > So it would be interesting to know how it has affected people

who

> > > have planets in Mesha Navamsha and how it affects the bhava in

> > > question.

> > > If learned friends have an experience of extention of this

> > principle

> > > to transits of Rahu and Jupiter, they are requested sincerely

to

> > post

> > > them.

> > >

> > > Please overlook and correct if any errors/ignorence is

reflected

> in

> > > this posting.

> > >

> > >

> > > Tatvam-Asi