Nadi Perspective - Partha, Saaji

[Guest guest]

Hello Sunil:

 

The quote by KS Krisnamurthy about Gochar transits being useless in

prediting is completely wrong.

 

I've seen people experience the effect of Sade-sate, which is due to

the the Gocard transit of Saturn.

 

I've seen people experience changes in their day to day/month to

month lives and this I believe is due to Gochar transits as well.

 

Even beggers begging on the streets of Bombay have good and bad

days. -- It is in their destiny to beg due to the planetary

placements in their birth horoscope; however, they experience good

and bad days in their lives due to the various Mahadasas AS WELL AS

Gochar transits.

 

I've observed beggers getting married (or hook up with another

begger) and have babies. -- The karmic forces that caused a soul to

be born as begger is reflected in the birth horoscope; however, this

very same begger getting married is due to their Gochar Jupiter

transiting the 9th house or the 7th house and maybe due to a

favorable mahadasa.

 

The point I'm making is that Gochar transits DO matter in predicting.

 

Furthermore, NOT EVERYTHING that these so-called Gurus, Pandits,

Yogis, Maharajs, Brahmins, Poojaris, Mahatmas, Devs, Devis, Matas,

etc., etc. SAY is ALWAYS true.

 

--Most of these gurus and god-men are outright crooks; some of these

start out with good intentions and high ideals, but turn in self-

agrrandizing prophets and seers; some are highly educated

professionals like engineers, etc. but turn into self-promoting demi-

gods.

 

The key to learning Vedic astrology these days is to hear a lot of

opinions on a board like this and read each of the opinion with a

healthy degree of critique.

 

Mukund

 

 

vedic astrology, "Sunil John"

<suniljohn_2004@h...> wrote:

> Dear Partha,

> I agree with ur view that if the courier boy promises he delivers,

like the Marathon runner. The point is how does one remember the

Vedha Points and there is the Vipareet Vedha that I have heard of,

remembering such tables is not possible for an ordinary mortal.

>

> Dear Saaji,

> Thanks for showing how diff astrologers from our list use transits,

I shall be most obliged if ur kind self can copy that article and

send it to me. I have deep interest in transits. If someone from the

list can also teach us Bhrigu Progressions it would be great, it

seems their are astrologers who use only Bhrigu Progressions,

Goravani software gives these Progressions but one needs a teacher to

teach how to delineate them.

>

> Although this thread is going nowhere as far as constructive astro

discussion, but would like to quote Shri K.S.Krishnamurthy, (I found

this tough to believe maybe due to my inexperience)

>

> " Most of the traditional astrologers are not unaware, that the

Gochara transit systems advocated by various sages, saints and

scholars in different text-books are useless, meaningless and not

universally applicable."

>

> If someone has his book, they can verify and let us know as my

source is an article (If it creates a Martian debate I am out of this

thread)

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> With Blessings of the Divine Mother

>

> Sunil John

> Mumbai

>

>

> Om Subrahmanyaya Namah

>

> Dear Sunil,

>

> I've seen some articles quoting some works which predicts

different

> results in different cycle. i.e., the results can vary in the

> different transits in the same position. Therefore, apart

from the

> points you mentioned, this is also a fact. If you would like

to know

> more about this, I'll try to type the gist of the article and

send

> you a personal mail (ofcourse when I get time).

>

> Sri Chandrashekharji mainly consider transits w.r.t Lagna and

natal

> positions, while Sri Ramdasji from Moon also. Sri Sanjay Ji

who's our

> authority consider transits w.r.t AL mainly and also w.r.t

other

> positions. Apart from transits w.r.t Moon, vedha is not

applicable

> and that's one reason why most people do not consider it.

Texts give

> results for transits w.r.t Moon.

>

> Regards

>

> Saaji

>

> Dear Sunil

>

> Yes the courier boys can be held up in trafic jam, or may

meet with

> accident, all this is vedha. I have not used Vedha much, if

you read

> astrological magazine, you can see that most of the rasis are

always

> having mixed or stunted results.

>

> WHen we read rasi phalas all we get to see is the vedhas and

nothing

> else. So sometimes we can get carried away by vedhas, and the

> accidents to courier boys. But if the courier boy promised to

> deliver, wouldnot he get a treatment, and rush to deliver the

parcel?

> best wishes

> partha

[Guest guest]

Dear Mukund,

Ur view point is very much appreciated. I don't think so that Mr. KS

Krishnamurthy said that Gochars do not matter as your mail indicated, he might

have said that their is a different method to it which I presume Vinay's mail

has touched upon. I might be wrong though in what i interpretated from his 4

lines. As I said in brackets I didn't beleive in that comment by Mr

Krishnamurthy - which means that I do beleive in Gochar and have seen some

wonderful Gochar results esp on the Bindu points, although i need to expand my

experience to be know its accuracy percentage.

I would appreciate very much if u or anyone can forward any chart details of

beggars with some events if possible. I attach below an excel sheet for

convenience.

 

Dear Vinay,

Thanks for ur mail, I might not be on the list that often I didn't know that

the person Mr KS Krishnamurthy is the same one of famous KP system, I thought

his name was KP Krishnamurthy , sometimes i get confused with South indian

names, so kindly bear. U have given a very useful tool to synthesise both the

asc and the moon during transits, I shall look at it more closely from now on.

It is nice to see ur knowledge on the list, if u were not urged to participate

on the list, many wouldn't have seen ur analytical skills.

 

For your information I am very much aware that one of our members Rajiv Karekar

is a KP enthusiast. Since u are interested in the KP theory, if u haven't so

far try to look into Mr Gondalkers (From Thane, Bombay) famous 4 step theory

which some say is an offshoot and far superior to KP. During my last meet I had

urged him to translate his book into English for the western and non marathi

reading audience.

 

As for ur 'humble' advice that I should read books instead of articles since I

would get confused, do not worry that I got confused by reading Krishnamurthy's

4 lines, I still have some Dhi left maybe.

 

As for your last statement that I should not take it personal, I haven't since I

know ur writing style very well by now and would just like to add a quote "If

one is human, then one is personal, period"

 

Thanks,

 

With Blessings of the Divine Mother

 

Sunil JohnMumbai

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