JHora and Varnada Lagna Clarification

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Hare Rama Krishna

Namaste Visti and friends,

 

> 1.Is the formula given by you different to what's used in JHL> > [Visti] The

Formula is the same, only it does not use degrees like JHora> does.

As the author of JHora, I have to clarify one thing. Some people may be thinking

that I have a disagreement with Sanjay ji and hence programmed this way. I will

set the record straight.

 

I programmed JHora the way I did, NOT because I believed in using degrees, but

because Sanjay ji explicitly instructed me to program that way.

 

Based on the language used by Parasara, I strongly felt that signs should be

counted and not degrees. I said that to Sanjay ji 2-3 years back. But he felt

otherwise. Because I did not do much work on Varnada lagna and hence did not

have much empirical data to support my interpretation, I went with Sanjay ji's

interpretation and programmed it like that.

 

Probably Sanjay ji had a change of mind, but he never communicated that to me. I

am glad Visti mentioned this. Just for the record, I have absolutely no

disagreement with this "no degrees, only signs" interpretation.

 

Though I have already done a "code freeze" for the JHora and JHoraLite releases

of Thursday and did not want to make any further code changes, I MAY try to get

this VL computation in. If not, the next release will have the correct VL.

 

Now, regarding Visti's chart:

 

> [Visti] Räçi dåñöi and look at both the sign and lord. The Lord indicates that which

> you are guided to do.

 

> > > Your VL is in gemini. 11th lord from gemini is mars. Your mars is in > > >

leo and does get sign aspect by Jupiter. > > > > > > So do we take it from this

teaching jyotish will be more suited to > > > you than actually practicing it

as a profession?

> > >

> > > Kasim> >

> > Because of this position some have thought that my Hora Lagna could be in Libra

> > which would change the Varëada Lagna to Sagittarius. But yes Jupiter’s influence

> > clearly indicates teaching.

>

> Correction: Varëada Lagna would be in Aquarius incase of my Hora Lagna in

Libra, hence making the 11th there-from Sagittarius.

 

Well, this principle is not from Parasara to the best of my knowledge. It is

from Jaimini. My general advice is to be very careful with principles from

Jaimini Sutram, as there is a good chance that our understanding is totally

off. Jaimini Sutram is far more complex than BPHS.

 

Having said that, I will make some observations assuming that Sanjay ji's

translation of Jaimini Sutram is perfect.

 

It is not always the 11th from VL. Jaimini talks about the VL or the 7th from VL

and says that the 11th from there shows the varna/class (varna bhedena

labhabhyam mriga varnam - 4.1.32). In all likelihood, this means taking the

stronger of VL and 7th from it and then taking the 11th from it.

 

Even if Visti's VL is in Ge and not Aq, you have to take the 7th from VL (Sg) as

it is stronger. From there, 11th is Libra. It contains Jupiter and it is owned

by Venus. Your criteria are satisfied.

 

However, I want to caution against reading too much from the 11th from VL/7th.

 

Take Dr. B.V. Raman's example. VL is in Cancer. The 11th is Taurus and owned by

Venus. Jupiter does not have sign aspect (that is what you prescribed) on

either Taurus or Venus. Does it mean he was not a teacher? The same holds for

Sanjay ji. His VL is in Li. The 11th is Leo. The 11th lord is Sun. Neither has

Jupiter's sign aspect. Both are known as great teachers.

 

The probability that Jupiter has a sign aspect on the 11th from VL or the 11th

lord from VL in any random chart is about 8/9. The same probability holds for

Venus. This probability is quite high. Thus, most people have this combination.

If 89 out of 100 people have the combination required for being an astrology

teacher (i.e. it is a common combination) and yet two of the greatest astrology

teachers do not have it, what good is the combination?

 

One should be careful not to read too much into any single parameter of Jyotish.

If VL shows one's career, what are D-10, 10th from lagna, 10th from Moon and A10

etc for? VL probably shows one's varna (the class to which one belongs, by one's

activities), i.e. whether one does Brahminical work or Kshatriya work or Vaisya

work or Sudra work. But to read whether one predicts well or not and whether

one is a teacher or not from it may be a bit of a stretch. In the related

verses, Jaimini only talked about Brahmanas, Kshatriyas etc and no further

classification! One should be very careful when extending or extrapolating

Jaimini. I hope my criticism is taken in the right spirit.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha