Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Raghunadha, What is the source of birth time you used for John Kerry?, Refer, http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/KerryJohn.htm Birth Name: Kerry, John Forbes Birth 12/11/1943 NS (Dec 11, 1943 NS) Birth Time: 08:03 (08:03 AM) MWT(+6:00) Birth Place: United States Army F, CO Latitude / Longitude: 39 N 45 / 104 W 50 Rodden Rating / Source: A / From memory Source Notes: Frances McEvoy quotes his mother for "sunrise." In February 2004, Robert Blaschke talked with Karen Thorne, Kerry's sister-in-law by his first marriage, who obtained a time from Kerry of 8:03 AM in 1996. Most astrologers are using the time around that period. Warm Regards Sanjay P. Om Tat Sat vedic astrology, Rao Nemani <raon1008> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Namaste Gurus and Learned Members, > > This is in continuation to my earlier analysis message, here I have attempted to see the second 2004 Presidential Candidates (Kerry) charts. As usual, I applied few different methods to see the result, so that I could verify the things. > > Please have a look at this analysis and correct me wherever I am wrong, so that I can learn from your replies. > > Kerry-1:- > ======= > > I have considered the following birth details of Kerry for this analysis:- > > December 11, 1943 > Time: 0:21:37 > Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 104 W 49' 53", 39 N 43' 46" > Aurora, Colorado, USA > > From V-Dasa's:- > ============== > This native is running Sat-Jup-Merc and election date is 2nd Nov 2004, so the Merc Pratyantar Dasa will be running during the election day also. > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > Sat MD: 1987-03-10 (13:59:32) - 2006-03-10 (4:34:20) > Jup AD: 2003-08-27 (21:49:41) - 2006-03-10 (4:34:20) > Ket PD: 2004-10-01 (20:45:02) - 2004-11-24 (20:08:38) > > Interestingly you will notice that, both these natives are running Sat-Jup at the same time. > > Now here the Jup is 5th and 8th lord placed in Lagna. This Jup is being aspected by Sat and Rahu too. Jup is being aspected by GL by Rasi Drishti. Jup is placed in 4th from Moon. Lagna has A4 and Gulika too. > > Ketu the Pratyantar Dasa Lord is placed in 6th house from Lagna and also being aspected by Rahu who is placed in 12th house from lagna and Rahu is the 7th lord. > > Kerry-2:- > ======= > Let us see from my favourite Narayana Dasa point of View:- > > D-1:- > ==== > > The native will be running the following D-1 Narayana Dasa during the election time:- > > Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa): > > Ta MD: 2000-12-09 (20:06:01) - 2005-12-10 (1:12:01) > Cn AD: 2004-09-09 (11:55:31) - 2005-02-08 (16:21:01) > Aq PD: 2004-10-30 (5:24:01) - 2004-11-11 (21:46:09) > > Native is currenly running Cn Antar Dasa and which is 12th from D-1 Lagn and 3rd from Ta Maha Dasa. Paaka of Cn is Ta which is nothing but the Maha Dasa and it has SL and 4th and 9th lord Mar and 12th lord Moon. Bhoga is SC which has Sun who is the Lagna Lord and A6 also placed there. Rahu is aspecting Sc by Rasi Drishti. > > Aq Pratyantar Dasa, which is 7th from D-1 lagna, 10th from Ta Maha Dasa and 8th from Cn Antar Dasa. This is again aspected by Rahu. Its paaka is Cn and its Bhoga is Li and being aspected by Jup,Lagna(Le) and SL(Ta) by Rashi Drishti. > > So summary from here is Ta-Cn-Aq is a above average and may give success. > > D-10:- > ===== > > The native will be running the following D-10 Narayana Dasa:- > > Narayana Dasa of D-10 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa): > > Sc MD: 2003-12-10 (13:33:37) - 2010-12-10 (6:18:01) > Sg AD: 2004-07-10 (14:57:19) - 2005-02-08 (16:21:01) > Vi PD: 2004-10-25 (3:39:10) - 2004-11-11 (21:46:09) > > Sg Antar Dasa is 2nd from Sc Maha Dasa and 11th from D-10 Lagna. Its Paaka is Vi which is 12th from Sc and 10th from Sg. Its Bhoga is Pi and which is 6th from Sc and 4th from Sg and 2nd from D-10 Lagna. Sg is being aspected by Rahu by Graha Drishti. Sat and Mara both are retro are aspecting Sg rasi by Graha Drishti. But Jup is aspecting Sg by Rasi drishti too. > > Vi Pratyantar Dasa, which is 12th from Sc Maha Dasa, 10th from Sg antar Dasa and 8th from D-10 lagna. > > Its paaka is is Pi and which is 6th from Sc and 4th from Sg and 2nd from D-10 Lagna. Its Bhoga is Ge which has Two retro planets Sat and Mars. All these are being aspected as we have discussed above. > > So summary from here is : In my opinion, Sc-Sg-Vi is not very promising. > > Kerry-3:- > ======= > > Padanaathaamsa Dasa:- > ===================== > Here I am taking the Padanaathaamsa Dasa and will try to analyse whether there are any indication for his success. > > Padanaathaamsa Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa): > > Le MD: 1996-12-09 (20:49:13) - 2005-12-10 (1:12:01) > Cp AD: 2004-06-10 (4:28:13) - 2005-03-11 (2:50:07) > Sg PD: 2004-10-25 (3:39:10) - 2004-11-16 (23:31:00) > > Cp Antar Dasa is 3rd from AL and its lord Sat is placed in 8th from AL. Cp has Ketu who is a co-lord of AL (Sc) and alos A8 is placed in Cp. if you look at the Rasi Drishti point of view, Cp is being aspected by Ar (GL is placed ), Cn ( where Rahu and A3 are placed ) and Sc (AL, Sun and A6 are placed). > > Sg Pratyantar Dasa is 2nd from AL and its lord Jup is placed in Lagna and also it is 10th from AL. Lagna has Gulika and A4 placed and being aspected by Rahu from Cn by graha drishti. This Rahu is also aspecting AL and Cp Antar Dasa too. > > So I am not seeing much of promise from this Le-Cp-Sg dasa for his success. > > Kerry-4:- > ======= > > Let me take the Tithi Pravesha to verify the above indications and close my analysis with this. > > Annual T.P:- > =========== > > December 8, 2003 > Time: 3:41:02 > Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 104 W 49' 53", 39 N 43' 46" > Aurora, Colorado, USA > > Hora Lord is Jup. Jup is 4th and 7th lord and he is placed in 12th house. This is Jup is being aspected by Rahu and Sun (12th Lord) its dispositor. Not a good indication. > > Vaara Lord is Sun who is 12th lord and placed in 3rd house being aspected by Jup and Rahu. > > Lagna is Vi and Natal Lagna is Le, so these two are in 2/12 relationship ship. Overall the Annual T.P is not very promising. > > Monthly T.P:- > =========== > > October 9, 2003 > Time: 14:55:58 > Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 104 W 49' 53", 39 N 43' 46" > Aurora, Colorado, USA > > Hora Lord is again Jup. Jup is 3rd and 12th lord and placed in 8th house and being aspected by Rahu by Graha and Rasi Drishti. Sat is also aspecting Jup by Graha Drishti from Ge. > > Vaara Lord is Jup, so the above is repeated again. > > Lagna is Cp and the Natal Lagna is Le, so these two are in 6/8 relationship ship. Overall the Monthly T.P is not very promising too. > > Summary of my analysis of the two charts are: > > In my opinion, I am seeing a positive thing for Bush here, unless my mind only seeing positive only today. Please review my analysis and correct me wherever I am not correct. > > Regards > Raghunadha Rao > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Hare Rama Krishna Namaste Sanjay P Ji, I have got the birth details, which I have used for my analysis from one of our SJC Gurus, Sat Siri Khalsa Ji. She told me that, Kerry himself gave the birth details to her. Regards Raghunatha Rao ---original message-- sanjay@s... Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:51 am Re: 2004 Presidential Candidates: My Analysis- Part 2/2 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Raghunadha, What is the source of birth time you used for John Kerry?, Refer, http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/KerryJohn.htm Birth Name: Kerry, John Forbes Birth 12/11/1943 NS (Dec 11, 1943 NS) Birth Time: 08:03 (08:03 AM) MWT(+6:00) Birth Place: United States Army F, CO Latitude / Longitude: 39 N 45 / 104 W 50 Rodden Rating / Source: A / From memory Source Notes: Frances McEvoy quotes his mother for "sunrise." In February 2004, Robert Blaschke talked with Karen Thorne, Kerry's sister-in-law by his first marriage, who obtained a time from Kerry of 8:03 AM in 1996. Most astrologers are using the time around that period. Warm Regards Sanjay P. ---- Message 44599 Rao Nemani <raon1008> Wed Sep 22, 2004 9:50 pm 2004 Presidential Candidates: My Analysis- Part 2/2 Hare Rama Krishna Namaste Gurus and Learned Members, This is in continuation to my earlier analysis message, here I have attempted to see the second 2004 Presidential Candidates (Kerry) charts. As usual, I applied few different methods to see the result, so that I could verify the things. Please have a look at this analysis and correct me wherever I am wrong, so that I can learn from your replies. Kerry-1:- ======= I have considered the following birth details of Kerry for this analysis:- December 11, 1943 Time: 0:21:37 Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 104 W 49' 53", 39 N 43' 46" Aurora, Colorado, USA >From V-Dasa's:- ============== This native is running Sat-Jup-Merc and election date is 2nd Nov 2004, so the Merc Pratyantar Dasa will be running during the election day also. Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Sat MD: 1987-03-10 (13:59:32) - 2006-03-10 (4:34:20) Jup AD: 2003-08-27 (21:49:41) - 2006-03-10 (4:34:20) Ket PD: 2004-10-01 (20:45:02) - 2004-11-24 (20:08:38) Interestingly you will notice that, both these natives are running Sat-Jup at the same time. Now here the Jup is 5th and 8th lord placed in Lagna. This Jup is being aspected by Sat and Rahu too. Jup is being aspected by GL by Rasi Drishti. Jup is placed in 4th from Moon. Lagna has A4 and Gulika too. Ketu the Pratyantar Dasa Lord is placed in 6th house from Lagna and also being aspected by Rahu who is placed in 12th house from lagna and Rahu is the 7th lord. Kerry-2:- ======= Let us see from my favourite Narayana Dasa point of View:- D-1:- ==== The native will be running the following D-1 Narayana Dasa during the election time:- Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa): Ta MD: 2000-12-09 (20:06:01) - 2005-12-10 (1:12:01) Cn AD: 2004-09-09 (11:55:31) - 2005-02-08 (16:21:01) Aq PD: 2004-10-30 (5:24:01) - 2004-11-11 (21:46:09) Native is currenly running Cn Antar Dasa and which is 12th from D-1 Lagn and 3rd from Ta Maha Dasa. Paaka of Cn is Ta which is nothing but the Maha Dasa and it has SL and 4th and 9th lord Mar and 12th lord Moon. Bhoga is SC which has Sun who is the Lagna Lord and A6 also placed there. Rahu is aspecting Sc by Rasi Drishti. Aq Pratyantar Dasa, which is 7th from D-1 lagna, 10th from Ta Maha Dasa and 8th from Cn Antar Dasa. This is again aspected by Rahu. Its paaka is Cn and its Bhoga is Li and being aspected by Jup,Lagna(Le) and SL(Ta) by Rashi Drishti. So summary from here is Ta-Cn-Aq is a above average and may give success. D-10:- ===== The native will be running the following D-10 Narayana Dasa:- Narayana Dasa of D-10 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa): Sc MD: 2003-12-10 (13:33:37) - 2010-12-10 (6:18:01) Sg AD: 2004-07-10 (14:57:19) - 2005-02-08 (16:21:01) Vi PD: 2004-10-25 (3:39:10) - 2004-11-11 (21:46:09) Sg Antar Dasa is 2nd from Sc Maha Dasa and 11th from D-10 Lagna. Its Paaka is Vi which is 12th from Sc and 10th from Sg. Its Bhoga is Pi and which is 6th from Sc and 4th from Sg and 2nd from D-10 Lagna. Sg is being aspected by Rahu by Graha Drishti. Sat and Mara both are retro are aspecting Sg rasi by Graha Drishti. But Jup is aspecting Sg by Rasi drishti too. Vi Pratyantar Dasa, which is 12th from Sc Maha Dasa, 10th from Sg antar Dasa and 8th from D-10 lagna. Its paaka is is Pi and which is 6th from Sc and 4th from Sg and 2nd from D-10 Lagna. Its Bhoga is Ge which has Two retro planets Sat and Mars. All these are being aspected as we have discussed above. So summary from here is : In my opinion, Sc-Sg-Vi is not very promising. Kerry-3:- ======= Padanaathaamsa Dasa:- ===================== Here I am taking the Padanaathaamsa Dasa and will try to analyse whether there are any indication for his success. Padanaathaamsa Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa): Le MD: 1996-12-09 (20:49:13) - 2005-12-10 (1:12:01) Cp AD: 2004-06-10 (4:28:13) - 2005-03-11 (2:50:07) Sg PD: 2004-10-25 (3:39:10) - 2004-11-16 (23:31:00) Cp Antar Dasa is 3rd from AL and its lord Sat is placed in 8th from AL. Cp has Ketu who is a co-lord of AL (Sc) and alos A8 is placed in Cp. if you look at the Rasi Drishti point of view, Cp is being aspected by Ar (GL is placed ), Cn ( where Rahu and A3 are placed ) and Sc (AL, Sun and A6 are placed). Sg Pratyantar Dasa is 2nd from AL and its lord Jup is placed in Lagna and also it is 10th from AL. Lagna has Gulika and A4 placed and being aspected by Rahu from Cn by graha drishti. This Rahu is also aspecting AL and Cp Antar Dasa too. So I am not seeing much of promise from this Le-Cp-Sg dasa for his success. Kerry-4:- ======= Let me take the Tithi Pravesha to verify the above indications and close my analysis with this. Annual T.P:- =========== December 8, 2003 Time: 3:41:02 Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 104 W 49' 53", 39 N 43' 46" Aurora, Colorado, USA Hora Lord is Jup. Jup is 4th and 7th lord and he is placed in 12th house. This is Jup is being aspected by Rahu and Sun (12th Lord) its dispositor. Not a good indication. Vaara Lord is Sun who is 12th lord and placed in 3rd house being aspected by Jup and Rahu. Lagna is Vi and Natal Lagna is Le, so these two are in 2/12 relationship ship. Overall the Annual T.P is not very promising. Monthly T.P:- =========== October 9, 2003 Time: 14:55:58 Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 104 W 49' 53", 39 N 43' 46" Aurora, Colorado, USA Hora Lord is again Jup. Jup is 3rd and 12th lord and placed in 8th house and being aspected by Rahu by Graha and Rasi Drishti. Sat is also aspecting Jup by Graha Drishti from Ge. Vaara Lord is Jup, so the above is repeated again. Lagna is Cp and the Natal Lagna is Le, so these two are in 6/8 relationship ship. Overall the Monthly T.P is not very promising too. Summary of my analysis of the two charts are: In my opinion, I am seeing a positive thing for Bush here, unless my mind only seeing positive only today. Please review my analysis and correct me wherever I am not correct. Regards Raghunadha Rao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Dear Rao, FYI, you might want to perform the Kerry analysis again. Both the birthtime and the prediction contradict Sanjay Rath's. See the message posted on this group, linked below. The birthtime was rectified to 7:14am. vedic astrology/message/40594 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Dear Raghunatha Rao Nemani, Heartiest Congratulations to you and Guru Ramadas Rao ji on your US Presidential elections prediction coming true. Regards, Sameer vedic astrology, Rao Nemani <raon1008> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Namaste Gurus and Learned Members, > > This is in continuation to my earlier analysis message, here I have attempted to see the second 2004 Presidential Candidates (Kerry) charts. As usual, I applied few different methods to see the result, so that I could verify the things. > > Please have a look at this analysis and correct me wherever I am wrong, so that I can learn from your replies. > > Kerry-1:- > ======= > > I have considered the following birth details of Kerry for this analysis:- > > December 11, 1943 > Time: 0:21:37 > Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 104 W 49' 53", 39 N 43' 46" > Aurora, Colorado, USA > > From V-Dasa's:- > ============== > This native is running Sat-Jup-Merc and election date is 2nd Nov 2004, so the Merc Pratyantar Dasa will be running during the election day also. > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > Sat MD: 1987-03-10 (13:59:32) - 2006-03-10 (4:34:20) > Jup AD: 2003-08-27 (21:49:41) - 2006-03-10 (4:34:20) > Ket PD: 2004-10-01 (20:45:02) - 2004-11-24 (20:08:38) > > Interestingly you will notice that, both these natives are running Sat-Jup at the same time. > > Now here the Jup is 5th and 8th lord placed in Lagna. This Jup is being aspected by Sat and Rahu too. Jup is being aspected by GL by Rasi Drishti. Jup is placed in 4th from Moon. Lagna has A4 and Gulika too. > > Ketu the Pratyantar Dasa Lord is placed in 6th house from Lagna and also being aspected by Rahu who is placed in 12th house from lagna and Rahu is the 7th lord. > > Kerry-2:- > ======= > Let us see from my favourite Narayana Dasa point of View:- > > D-1:- > ==== > > The native will be running the following D-1 Narayana Dasa during the election time:- > > Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa): > > Ta MD: 2000-12-09 (20:06:01) - 2005-12-10 (1:12:01) > Cn AD: 2004-09-09 (11:55:31) - 2005-02-08 (16:21:01) > Aq PD: 2004-10-30 (5:24:01) - 2004-11-11 (21:46:09) > > Native is currenly running Cn Antar Dasa and which is 12th from D-1 Lagn and 3rd from Ta Maha Dasa. Paaka of Cn is Ta which is nothing but the Maha Dasa and it has SL and 4th and 9th lord Mar and 12th lord Moon. Bhoga is SC which has Sun who is the Lagna Lord and A6 also placed there. Rahu is aspecting Sc by Rasi Drishti. > > Aq Pratyantar Dasa, which is 7th from D-1 lagna, 10th from Ta Maha Dasa and 8th from Cn Antar Dasa. This is again aspected by Rahu. Its paaka is Cn and its Bhoga is Li and being aspected by Jup,Lagna(Le) and SL(Ta) by Rashi Drishti. > > So summary from here is Ta-Cn-Aq is a above average and may give success. > > D-10:- > ===== > > The native will be running the following D-10 Narayana Dasa:- > > Narayana Dasa of D-10 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa): > > Sc MD: 2003-12-10 (13:33:37) - 2010-12-10 (6:18:01) > Sg AD: 2004-07-10 (14:57:19) - 2005-02-08 (16:21:01) > Vi PD: 2004-10-25 (3:39:10) - 2004-11-11 (21:46:09) > > Sg Antar Dasa is 2nd from Sc Maha Dasa and 11th from D-10 Lagna. Its Paaka is Vi which is 12th from Sc and 10th from Sg. Its Bhoga is Pi and which is 6th from Sc and 4th from Sg and 2nd from D-10 Lagna. Sg is being aspected by Rahu by Graha Drishti. Sat and Mara both are retro are aspecting Sg rasi by Graha Drishti. But Jup is aspecting Sg by Rasi drishti too. > > Vi Pratyantar Dasa, which is 12th from Sc Maha Dasa, 10th from Sg antar Dasa and 8th from D-10 lagna. > > Its paaka is is Pi and which is 6th from Sc and 4th from Sg and 2nd from D-10 Lagna. Its Bhoga is Ge which has Two retro planets Sat and Mars. All these are being aspected as we have discussed above. > > So summary from here is : In my opinion, Sc-Sg-Vi is not very promising. > > Kerry-3:- > ======= > > Padanaathaamsa Dasa:- > ===================== > Here I am taking the Padanaathaamsa Dasa and will try to analyse whether there are any indication for his success. > > Padanaathaamsa Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa): > > Le MD: 1996-12-09 (20:49:13) - 2005-12-10 (1:12:01) > Cp AD: 2004-06-10 (4:28:13) - 2005-03-11 (2:50:07) > Sg PD: 2004-10-25 (3:39:10) - 2004-11-16 (23:31:00) > > Cp Antar Dasa is 3rd from AL and its lord Sat is placed in 8th from AL. Cp has Ketu who is a co-lord of AL (Sc) and alos A8 is placed in Cp. if you look at the Rasi Drishti point of view, Cp is being aspected by Ar (GL is placed ), Cn ( where Rahu and A3 are placed ) and Sc (AL, Sun and A6 are placed). > > Sg Pratyantar Dasa is 2nd from AL and its lord Jup is placed in Lagna and also it is 10th from AL. Lagna has Gulika and A4 placed and being aspected by Rahu from Cn by graha drishti. This Rahu is also aspecting AL and Cp Antar Dasa too. > > So I am not seeing much of promise from this Le-Cp-Sg dasa for his success. > > Kerry-4:- > ======= > > Let me take the Tithi Pravesha to verify the above indications and close my analysis with this. > > Annual T.P:- > =========== > > December 8, 2003 > Time: 3:41:02 > Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 104 W 49' 53", 39 N 43' 46" > Aurora, Colorado, USA > > Hora Lord is Jup. Jup is 4th and 7th lord and he is placed in 12th house. This is Jup is being aspected by Rahu and Sun (12th Lord) its dispositor. Not a good indication. > > Vaara Lord is Sun who is 12th lord and placed in 3rd house being aspected by Jup and Rahu. > > Lagna is Vi and Natal Lagna is Le, so these two are in 2/12 relationship ship. Overall the Annual T.P is not very promising. > > Monthly T.P:- > =========== > > October 9, 2003 > Time: 14:55:58 > Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 104 W 49' 53", 39 N 43' 46" > Aurora, Colorado, USA > > Hora Lord is again Jup. Jup is 3rd and 12th lord and placed in 8th house and being aspected by Rahu by Graha and Rasi Drishti. Sat is also aspecting Jup by Graha Drishti from Ge. > > Vaara Lord is Jup, so the above is repeated again. > > Lagna is Cp and the Natal Lagna is Le, so these two are in 6/8 relationship ship. Overall the Monthly T.P is not very promising too. > > Summary of my analysis of the two charts are: > > In my opinion, I am seeing a positive thing for Bush here, unless my mind only seeing positive only today. Please review my analysis and correct me wherever I am not correct. > > Regards > Raghunadha Rao > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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