Guest guest Posted July 14, 2004 Report Share Posted July 14, 2004 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Ajit, 6th house stands for litigation and so does Mercury. Regards Ramesh ajith [ajith] Wednesday, July 14, 2004 12:00 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] litigation...which house and karaka Om Shreem Guruvae Namaha Dear Gurus and members, Does the 6th house deal with litigitaion and legal problems, is the sun the karaka for that ? or an afflicted sun ? reg K. Ajith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2004 Report Share Posted July 14, 2004 |Hare Rama Kåñëa| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar Litigation is resorted to when to parties cannot agree on an issue and need the laws help for it. Hence litigation is actually fighting between two parties – the karaka is Mars. Yours, bold">Visti Larsen color:#4E81C4"> visti (AT) (DOT) org Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani (AT) ae (DOT) york.com] 14 July 2004 10:19 To: vedic astrology RE: [vedic astrology] litigation...which house and karaka 12.0pt"> 10.0pt">Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Ajit, 6th house stands for litigation and so does Mercury. Regards Ramesh ajith (AT) ocbc-research (DOT) com [ajith (AT) ocbc-research (DOT) com] Wednesday, July 14, 2004 12:00 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] litigation...which house and karaka Om Shreem Guruvae Namaha Dear Gurus and members, Does the 6th house deal with litigitaion and legal problems, is the sun the karaka for that ? or an afflicted sun ? reg K. Ajith To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Attachment: (image/jpeg) image001.jpg [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2004 Report Share Posted July 14, 2004 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, Thank you for correcting me. I agree any litigation starts with a dispute/ disagreement/ fight for which Mars would be the karka. I somehow thought that Mercury had a strong connection with litigation and tried to look around for some reference. The only case that I could lay my hand quickly was in COVA where Mercury (business) in 6th (litigation) stood for business. May be it has connection with legal communications! Kind regards Ramesh Visti Larsen [visti (AT) (DOT) org]Wednesday, July 14, 2004 1:53 PMTo: vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] litigation...which house and karaka |Hare Rama Kåñëa| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar Litigation is resorted to when to parties cannot agree on an issue and need the laws help for it. Hence litigation is actually fighting between two parties – the karaka is Mars. Yours, Visti Larsenvisti (AT) (DOT) org Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani (AT) ae (DOT) york.com] 14 July 2004 10:19vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] litigation...which house and karaka Satyam Bruyat Priyam BruyatDear Ajit,6th house stands for litigation and so does Mercury.RegardsRameshajith (AT) ocbc-research (DOT) com [ajith (AT) ocbc-research (DOT) com]Wednesday, July 14, 2004 12:00 PMTo: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] litigation...which house and karakaOm Shreem Guruvae NamahaDear Gurus and members,Does the 6th house deal with litigitaion and legal problems, is the sun thekaraka for that ? or an afflicted sun ?regK. AjithArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Attachment: (image/jpeg) image001.jpg [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Ramesh Ji, 6th house rules litigation,and Kuja is the Karaka for litigation.If other malefics like Shani, Rahu etc. are also involved with 6th ,8th or 12th house and are connected with Surya,then the native suffers at the hands of governmental bodies and suffers imprisonment,penalty etc. I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Ramesh Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani (AT) ae (DOT) york.com> wrote: Satyam Bruyat Priyam BruyatDear Ajit,6th house stands for litigation and so does Mercury.RegardsRameshajith (AT) ocbc-research (DOT) com [ajith (AT) ocbc-research (DOT) com]Wednesday, July 14, 2004 12:00 PMTo: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] litigation...which house and karakaOm Shreem Guruvae NamahaDear Gurus and members,Does the 6th house deal with litigitaion and legal problems, is the sun thekaraka for that ? or an afflicted sun ?regK. AjithArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Careers: Over 65,000 jobs online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 Dear Mr. Ramdas Rao: How can litigation and imprisonment be timed? You talk about association of Saturn and Rahu to Sun causes imprisonment, but a person can't be in imprisonment all his life. So, vimshottari dasha of the sixth lord brings litigation. But, what if an individual's 7th house Sun is afflicted by Rahu from the 6th house and Saturn from the 5ht house. If this person never experiences Sun mahadasa, then he will never experience imprisonment as the aspects of malefic planets will never frutify. So, this brings up the big question--When does aspects to a planet and aspect by a planet to other houses/planets come into effect? And, what if the aspects are extremely complex, i.e. in my case Mars sixth and lagna lord aspects Rahu in 6th house from the 11th house. However, Rahu also aspects Sun in the 7th house. So, Mars will destroy Rahu with its Astakshari aspect, but what will happen to Rahu's aspect on Sun? Will it go away as Mars has destroyed Rahu? And, when will Mar's aspect on Rahu come into effect--during Rahu dasa or Mars' dasa? And, when will Rahu's aspect on Sun come into effect--during Sun dasa or Rahu dasa? The reality of Vedic astrology is that if a Jyotish is able to understand the Lagna chart and Vimshottari dasa, he doesn't need to look at million other charts and dasas to predict. The fact is that there is somuch confusion, disagreement and outright illiteracy at the Lagna chart level that venturing into all the other sexy dasas like the Mool dasa, Narayana dasa and Shool dasa and million different divisional charts is useless. Regards, Mukund vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > om namo näräyaëäya| > Dear Ramesh Ji, > 6th house rules litigation,and Kuja is the Karaka for litigation.If other malefics like Shani, Rahu etc. are also involved with 6th ,8th or 12th house and are connected with Surya,then the native suffers at the hands of governmental bodies and suffers imprisonment,penalty etc. > I hope this helps you. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > > Ramesh Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote: > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Ajit, > 6th house stands for litigation and so does Mercury. > Regards > Ramesh > > > ajith@o... [ajith@o...] > Wednesday, July 14, 2004 12:00 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] litigation...which house and karaka > > > > Om Shreem Guruvae Namaha > > Dear Gurus and members, > > Does the 6th house deal with litigitaion and legal problems, is the sun the > karaka for that ? or an afflicted sun ? > > reg > > > K. Ajith > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > vedic astrology/ > > > vedic astrology > > Terms of Service. > > > India Careers: Over 65,000 jobsonline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Mukund, Even though you have addressed this question to Shri Ramdao Rao, I will try to suggest few ideas for your questions. Hopefully Shri Ramdas Rao will also contribute. > So, this brings up the big question--When does aspects to a planet > and aspect by a planet to other houses/planets come into effect? SanjayP: In Vimhshottari Dasa the both aspects by a planet and and aspects on a planet fructify during the 3rd One third of the dasa. For example your mars in Virgo's aspect on all other dual signs will show up in the last 2yrs 4 months of mars dasa. Also the Graha drishti of Mars on Rahu in Aries will show up. > And, what if the aspects are extremely complex, i.e. in my case Mars > sixth and lagna lord aspects Rahu in 6th house from the 11th house. > However, Rahu also aspects Sun in the 7th house. So, Mars will > destroy Rahu with its Astakshari aspect, but what will happen to > Rahu's aspect on Sun? Will it go away as Mars has destroyed Rahu? SanjayP: Mars cannot destroy Rahu by mere aspect. More is needed to destroy Rahu for help from Jupiter or Mercury is needed. But why do you want to destroy Rahu?. Isnt he the 4th lord?. One way to understand all the grahas is to understand that all the Nine Grahas + Lagna are like one's own 10 Heads (like that of Ravana). Each Graha's aspect indicates the inviduals desire. Venus in Chart indicates individuals Sensuality and it's aspect indicates one own desires on this matter. So you can use Venus as your lagna and analyse all your Sensuality. The mars indicates ones strength. Using mars as lagna one can find ones fighting ability and what one defends. Each of the Kaarakaas from Sun onwards generate the basics and give to lagna. What is enjoyed by the native is seen from Rising Lagna. > And, when will Mar's aspect on Rahu come into effect--during Rahu > dasa or Mars' dasa? SanjayP: During last 1/3 period of Mars dasa. Refer Udu Dasa book by Pt. Sanjay Rath/ > And, when will Rahu's aspect on Sun come into effect--during Sun dasa > or Rahu dasa? SanjayP: During last 6years of Rahu dasa. Also look for the same in Antardasa, Pratyanatara etc using tripod rule and proper reference lagna. Mahadasa wrt Sun Antardasa wrt Moon Pratyantara wrt Lagnas Sookshma dasa wrt Ak Pranadasa wrt Pranapada lagna deha wrt to lagna > The reality of Vedic astrology is that if a Jyotish is able to > understand the Lagna chart and Vimshottari dasa, he doesn't need to > look at million other charts and dasas to predict. The fact is that > there is somuch confusion, disagreement and outright illiteracy at > the Lagna chart level that venturing into all the other sexy dasas > like the Mool dasa, Narayana dasa and Shool dasa and million > different divisional charts is useless. SanjayP: Yes understanding the basics of grahas, divisions and yogas is very important before venturing into all those sexy dasas Warm Regards Sanjay P Om Tat Sat > > Regards, > Mukund > > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> > wrote: > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > Dear Ramesh Ji, > > 6th house rules litigation,and Kuja is the Karaka for litigation.If > other malefics like Shani, Rahu etc. are also involved with 6th ,8th > or 12th house and are connected with Surya,then the native suffers at > the hands of governmental bodies and suffers imprisonment,penalty etc. > > I hope this helps you. > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > Ramesh Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote: > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > Dear Ajit, > > 6th house stands for litigation and so does Mercury. > > Regards > > Ramesh > > > > > > ajith@o... [ajith@o...] > > Wednesday, July 14, 2004 12:00 PM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] litigation...which house and karaka > > > > > > > > Om Shreem Guruvae Namaha > > > > Dear Gurus and members, > > > > Does the 6th house deal with litigitaion and legal problems, is the > sun the > > karaka for that ? or an afflicted sun ? > > > > reg > > > > > > K. Ajith > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 Dear Sanjay: Thank you for writing such a comprehensive response. Ya, I now remember reading in one of Rath's books that aspects give effect in the last one third and you cleared that both the aspects to and from come into effect so this answers my question--how to interpret these (to/from aspects) is for the learned mind. You asked "why do you want Rahu destroyed, it is the 4th lord?" Ya Sanjay, Rahu is indeed the fourth lord; however, Rahu also represents the ultimate evil, evil enenmies, Ravana like people, extreme and unusual diseases and extreme and unusual pain and suffering. -- so, this brings up another classical conondrum of Vedic astrology. Should Rahu be strengthened as it is the fourth lord or should Mars (Chamumda/Hanuman) be strengthened so that it destroys all the evils that Rahu represents with the Astam aspect, i.e. with an Astakshari mantra? See Sanjay, once more this brings us to the very basics of Jyotish. I really appreciate your last response, I've learned from it. Hope you have to time to address the question I've posed in this note Thank you Mukund vedic astrology, sanjayp@c... wrote: > || Om Gurave Namah || > Dear Mukund, > > Even though you have addressed this question to Shri Ramdao Rao, > I will try to suggest few ideas for your questions. > Hopefully Shri Ramdas Rao will also contribute. > > > So, this brings up the big question--When does aspects to a planet > > and aspect by a planet to other houses/planets come into effect? > > SanjayP: In Vimhshottari Dasa the both aspects by a planet and and > aspects on a planet fructify during the 3rd One third of the dasa. > > For example your mars in Virgo's aspect on all other dual signs will > show up in the last 2yrs 4 months of mars dasa. Also the Graha > drishti of Mars on Rahu in Aries will show up. > > > > And, what if the aspects are extremely complex, i.e. in my case > Mars > > sixth and lagna lord aspects Rahu in 6th house from the 11th house. > > However, Rahu also aspects Sun in the 7th house. So, Mars will > > destroy Rahu with its Astakshari aspect, but what will happen to > > Rahu's aspect on Sun? Will it go away as Mars has destroyed Rahu? > > SanjayP: Mars cannot destroy Rahu by mere aspect. More is needed to > destroy Rahu for help from Jupiter or Mercury is needed. But why do > you want to destroy Rahu?. Isnt he the 4th lord?. > > One way to understand all the grahas is to understand that all the > Nine Grahas + Lagna are like one's own 10 Heads (like that of Ravana). > Each Graha's aspect indicates the inviduals desire. > Venus in Chart indicates individuals Sensuality and it's aspect > indicates one own desires on this matter. So you can use Venus as > your lagna and analyse all your Sensuality. > The mars indicates ones strength. Using mars as lagna one can find > ones fighting ability and what one defends. > Each of the Kaarakaas from Sun onwards generate the basics and give > to lagna. What is enjoyed by the native is seen from Rising Lagna. > > > And, when will Mar's aspect on Rahu come into effect--during Rahu > > dasa or Mars' dasa? > > SanjayP: During last 1/3 period of Mars dasa. > > Refer Udu Dasa book by Pt. Sanjay Rath/ > > > And, when will Rahu's aspect on Sun come into effect--during Sun > dasa > > or Rahu dasa? > > SanjayP: During last 6years of Rahu dasa. > > Also look for the same in Antardasa, Pratyanatara etc using tripod > rule and proper reference lagna. > > Mahadasa wrt Sun > Antardasa wrt Moon > Pratyantara wrt Lagnas > Sookshma dasa wrt Ak > Pranadasa wrt Pranapada lagna > deha wrt to lagna > > > > The reality of Vedic astrology is that if a Jyotish is able to > > understand the Lagna chart and Vimshottari dasa, he doesn't need to > > look at million other charts and dasas to predict. The fact is that > > there is somuch confusion, disagreement and outright illiteracy at > > the Lagna chart level that venturing into all the other sexy dasas > > like the Mool dasa, Narayana dasa and Shool dasa and million > > different divisional charts is useless. > > SanjayP: Yes understanding the basics of grahas, divisions and yogas > is very important before venturing into all those sexy dasas > > Warm Regards > Sanjay P > > Om Tat Sat > > > > > > Regards, > > Mukund > > > > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao > <ramadasrao> > > wrote: > > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > > Dear Ramesh Ji, > > > 6th house rules litigation,and Kuja is the Karaka for > litigation.If > > other malefics like Shani, Rahu etc. are also involved with > 6th ,8th > > or 12th house and are connected with Surya,then the native suffers > at > > the hands of governmental bodies and suffers imprisonment,penalty > etc. > > > I hope this helps you. > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote: > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > Dear Ajit, > > > 6th house stands for litigation and so does Mercury. > > > Regards > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > ajith@o... [ajith@o...] > > > Wednesday, July 14, 2004 12:00 PM > > > vedic astrology > > > [vedic astrology] litigation...which house and karaka > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Shreem Guruvae Namaha > > > > > > Dear Gurus and members, > > > > > > Does the 6th house deal with litigitaion and legal problems, is > the > > sun the > > > karaka for that ? or an afflicted sun ? > > > > > > reg > > > > > > > > > K. Ajith > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Mukund, > You asked "why do you want Rahu destroyed, it is the 4th lord?" Ya > Sanjay, Rahu is indeed the fourth lord; however, Rahu also represents > the ultimate evil, evil enenmies, Ravana like people, extreme and > unusual diseases and extreme and unusual pain and suffering. I think one should not be biased against a certain planet. Each planet has divine to a mundane gross level existance. At highest level Rahu is Varaha deva. Rahu represents all the unfulfilled desires in you. The fact is that he lords the fourth house in this chart. Houses owned by Rahu will indicate the unfulfilled desire in each division. That's why maybe Sri Venkateshwara(Varaha Rupa) is standing there on sheshadri hills with so much loans from Kubera fulfilling his devotees. > -- so, this brings up another classical conondrum of Vedic astrology. > Should Rahu be strengthened as it is the fourth lord or should Mars > (Chamumda/Hanuman) be strengthened so that it destroys all the evils > that Rahu represents with the Astam aspect, i.e. with an Astakshari > mantra? To attempt Strengthening a planet is very difficult. Strength is of Six Forms says Parasara (Shad Bala) does he co-relate to 6th house of Six weakness/Shadripu?. What's in ones hand is possibly in the upchayas 3,6,10,11. Its best do mantra's of 5th lord which is friendly to lagna. Trines are the best support. They are the laxmi staanas which will fullfill your 4 ashramas'. And Pray to your ishta devata. Warm Regards Sanjay P Om Tat Sat > See Sanjay, once more this brings us to the very basics of Jyotish. > > I really appreciate your last response, I've learned from it. Hope > you have to time to address the question I've posed in this note > > Thank you > Mukund > > vedic astrology, sanjayp@c... wrote: > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > Dear Mukund, > > > > Even though you have addressed this question to Shri Ramdao Rao, > > I will try to suggest few ideas for your questions. > > Hopefully Shri Ramdas Rao will also contribute. > > > > > So, this brings up the big question--When does aspects to a > planet > > > and aspect by a planet to other houses/planets come into effect? > > > > SanjayP: In Vimhshottari Dasa the both aspects by a planet and and > > aspects on a planet fructify during the 3rd One third of the dasa. > > > > For example your mars in Virgo's aspect on all other dual signs > will > > show up in the last 2yrs 4 months of mars dasa. Also the Graha > > drishti of Mars on Rahu in Aries will show up. > > > > > > > And, what if the aspects are extremely complex, i.e. in my case > > Mars > > > sixth and lagna lord aspects Rahu in 6th house from the 11th > house. > > > However, Rahu also aspects Sun in the 7th house. So, Mars will > > > destroy Rahu with its Astakshari aspect, but what will happen to > > > Rahu's aspect on Sun? Will it go away as Mars has destroyed Rahu? > > > > SanjayP: Mars cannot destroy Rahu by mere aspect. More is needed > to > > destroy Rahu for help from Jupiter or Mercury is needed. But why do > > you want to destroy Rahu?. Isnt he the 4th lord?. > > > > One way to understand all the grahas is to understand that all the > > Nine Grahas + Lagna are like one's own 10 Heads (like that of > Ravana). > > Each Graha's aspect indicates the inviduals desire. > > Venus in Chart indicates individuals Sensuality and it's aspect > > indicates one own desires on this matter. So you can use Venus as > > your lagna and analyse all your Sensuality. > > The mars indicates ones strength. Using mars as lagna one can find > > ones fighting ability and what one defends. > > Each of the Kaarakaas from Sun onwards generate the basics and give > > to lagna. What is enjoyed by the native is seen from Rising Lagna. > > > > > And, when will Mar's aspect on Rahu come into effect--during Rahu > > > dasa or Mars' dasa? > > > > SanjayP: During last 1/3 period of Mars dasa. > > > > Refer Udu Dasa book by Pt. Sanjay Rath/ > > > > > And, when will Rahu's aspect on Sun come into effect--during Sun > > dasa > > > or Rahu dasa? > > > > SanjayP: During last 6years of Rahu dasa. > > > > Also look for the same in Antardasa, Pratyanatara etc using > tripod > > rule and proper reference lagna. > > > > Mahadasa wrt Sun > > Antardasa wrt Moon > > Pratyantara wrt Lagnas > > Sookshma dasa wrt Ak > > Pranadasa wrt Pranapada lagna > > deha wrt to lagna > > > > > > > The reality of Vedic astrology is that if a Jyotish is able to > > > understand the Lagna chart and Vimshottari dasa, he doesn't need > to > > > look at million other charts and dasas to predict. The fact is > that > > > there is somuch confusion, disagreement and outright illiteracy > at > > > the Lagna chart level that venturing into all the other sexy > dasas > > > like the Mool dasa, Narayana dasa and Shool dasa and million > > > different divisional charts is useless. > > > > SanjayP: Yes understanding the basics of grahas, divisions and > yogas > > is very important before venturing into all those sexy dasas > > > > Warm Regards > > Sanjay P > > > > Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Mukund > > > > > > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao > > <ramadasrao> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > > > Dear Ramesh Ji, > > > > 6th house rules litigation,and Kuja is the Karaka for > > litigation.If > > > other malefics like Shani, Rahu etc. are also involved with > > 6th ,8th > > > or 12th house and are connected with Surya,then the native > suffers > > at > > > the hands of governmental bodies and suffers imprisonment,penalty > > etc. > > > > I hope this helps you. > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote: > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > Dear Ajit, > > > > 6th house stands for litigation and so does Mercury. > > > > Regards > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > ajith@o... [ajith@o...] > > > > Wednesday, July 14, 2004 12:00 PM > > > > vedic astrology > > > > [vedic astrology] litigation...which house and karaka > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Shreem Guruvae Namaha > > > > > > > > Dear Gurus and members, > > > > > > > > Does the 6th house deal with litigitaion and legal problems, is > > the > > > sun the > > > > karaka for that ? or an afflicted sun ? > > > > > > > > reg > > > > > > > > > > > > K. Ajith > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 Dear Ramesh, Mercury rules lawyer and it helps the native overcome the litigation.. Regards SarajitRamesh Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani (AT) ae (DOT) york.com> wrote: Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, Thank you for correcting me. I agree any litigation starts with a dispute/ disagreement/ fight for which Mars would be the karka. I somehow thought that Mercury had a strong connection with litigation and tried to look around for some reference. The only case that I could lay my hand quickly was in COVA where Mercury (business) in 6th (litigation) stood for business. May be it has connection with legal communications! Kind regards Ramesh Visti Larsen [visti (AT) (DOT) org]Wednesday, July 14, 2004 1:53 PMTo: vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] litigation...which house and karaka |Hare Rama Kåñëa| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar Litigation is resorted to when to parties cannot agree on an issue and need the laws help for it. Hence litigation is actually fighting between two parties – the karaka is Mars. Yours, Visti Larsenvisti (AT) (DOT) org Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani (AT) ae (DOT) york.com] 14 July 2004 10:19vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] litigation...which house and karaka Satyam Bruyat Priyam BruyatDear Ajit,6th house stands for litigation and so does Mercury.RegardsRameshajith (AT) ocbc-research (DOT) com [ajith (AT) ocbc-research (DOT) com]Wednesday, July 14, 2004 12:00 PMTo: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] litigation...which house and karakaOm Shreem Guruvae NamahaDear Gurus and members,Does the 6th house deal with litigitaion and legal problems, is the sun thekaraka for that ? or an afflicted sun ?regK. AjithArchives: vedic astrology FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Group info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ........ Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Ramesh, Greetings. I feel litigation can be best analysed from a Prasna Chart. a] Ist house shows the querist b] 7th house shows the defendant/opponent[open enemy] c]6th house = secret enemy d]10th house = Authority/Judiciary e]Malefic in Lagna,querist wins.Malefic in both Lagna & 7th house,prolonged= dispute and stronger of two wins. f]Lagna lord & 7th lord inimical aspect shows intense violent fight g]Malefic in tenth, nothing conclusive will happen h]Benefic in tenth, decisive hearing i]Lawyer is Mercury.Its placement to be checked if favourable from Lagna lo= rd or Seventh Lord and houses. j]Benefic in 10th house, fair judgment k]Benefic Moon in 10th favours querist, malefic moon favours opponent l]Mars & Saturn in 10th, case goes to higher court. m]Sun in tenth, severe punitive judgement n]Lagna & Moon in moveable signs, case continues[next date] Best regards, Rajat vedic astrology, Sarajit Poddar <sarajitp> wrot= e: > || Jaya Jagannath || > Dear Ramesh, > > Mercury rules lawyer and it helps the native overcome the litigation.. > > Regards > Sarajit > > Ramesh Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote: > v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML)}o\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML)}w\:= * { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML)}.shape { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML)}st1\:* = { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#ieooui)}@font-face { font-family: Wingdings;}@font-= face { font-family: URW Palladio IT;}@font-face { font-family: Tahoma;}@font= -face { font-family: Verdana;}@page Section1 {size: 612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:= 72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt; }P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0c= m 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"}LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN= : 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"}DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12p= t; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"}H2 { FONT-SIZE: 14pt;= MARGIN: 12pt 0cm 3pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0cm; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: Ar= ial; mso-list: l1 level2 lfo1}A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underli= ne}SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}A:visited { C= OLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: bl= ue; > TEXT-DECORATION: underline}TT { FONT-FAMILY: "Courier New"}P.CaseHeading= 2 { FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 16pt; PAGE-BREAK-BEFORE: always; MARGIN: 1= 2pt 0cm 3pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0cm; FONT-FAMILY: "URW Palladio IT"; mso-list: l1 = level2 lfo1}LI.CaseHeading2 { FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 16pt; PAGE-BREAK= -BEFORE: always; MARGIN: 12pt 0cm 3pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0cm; FONT-FAMILY: "URW P= alladio IT"; mso-list: l1 level2 lfo1}DIV.CaseHeading2 { FONT-WEIGHT: bold; = FONT-SIZE: 16pt; PAGE-BREAK-BEFORE: always; MARGIN: 12pt 0cm 3pt; TEXT-INDEN= T: 0cm; FONT-FAMILY: "URW Palladio IT"; mso-list: l1 level2 lfo1}SPAN.EmailS= tyle19 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: "URW Palladio IT"; mso-style-type: person= al-reply}DIV.Section1 { page: Section1}OL { MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm}UL { MARGIN-B= OTTOM: 0cm}Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Visti, > Thank you for correcting me. I agree any litigation starts with a dispute= / disagreement/ fight for which Mars would be the karka. I somehow thought t= hat Mercury had a strong connection with litigation and tried to look around= for some reference. The only case that I could lay my hand quickly was in C= OVA where Mercury (business) in 6th (litigation) stood for business. May be = it has connection with legal communications! > Kind regards > Ramesh > > Visti Larsen [visti@s...] > Wednesday, July 14, 2004 1:53 PM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] litigation...which house and karaka > > > > |Hare Rama Kåñëa| > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar > > Litigation is resorted to when to parties cannot agree on an issue and ne= ed the laws help for it. > > Hence litigation is actually fighting between two parties – the karaka is= Mars. > > Yours, > > > > Visti Larsen > visti@s... > > > > > Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani@a...] > 14 July 2004 10:19 > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] litigation...which house and karaka > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Ajit, > 6th house stands for litigation and so does Mercury. > Regards > Ramesh > > > ajith@o... [ajith@o...] > Wednesday, July 14, 2004 12:00 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] litigation...which house and karaka > > > > Om Shreem Guruvae Namaha > > Dear Gurus and members, > > Does the 6th house deal with litigitaion and legal problems, is the sun t= he > karaka for that ? or an afflicted sun ? > > reg > > > K. Ajith > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > vedic astrology/ > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 Dear Sarajit Namaste I thought that Shani rules lawyer. Budha rules the computing ability and Shani analytical. Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. Prabodh Vekhande vedic astrology, Sarajit Poddar <sarajitp> wrote: > || Jaya Jagannath || > Dear Ramesh, > > Mercury rules lawyer and it helps the native overcome the litigation.. > > Regards > Sarajit > > Ramesh Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote: > v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML)}o\:* { BEHAVIOR: url (#default#VML)}w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML)}.shape { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML)}st1\:* { BEHAVIOR: url (#default#ieooui)}@font-face { font-family: Wingdings;}@font-face { font-family: URW Palladio IT;}@font-face { font-family: Tahoma;}@font-face { font-family: Verdana;}@page Section1 {size: 612.0pt 792.0pt; margin: 72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt; }P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"}LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"}DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"}H2 { FONT- SIZE: 14pt; MARGIN: 12pt 0cm 3pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0cm; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-list: l1 level2 lfo1}A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}A:visited { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline} SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: blue; > TEXT-DECORATION: underline}TT { FONT-FAMILY: "Courier New"} P.CaseHeading2 { FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 16pt; PAGE- BREAK-BEFORE: always; MARGIN: 12pt 0cm 3pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0cm; FONT- FAMILY: "URW Palladio IT"; mso-list: l1 level2 lfo1}LI.CaseHeading2 { FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 16pt; PAGE-BREAK-BEFORE: always; MARGIN: 12pt 0cm 3pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0cm; FONT-FAMILY: "URW Palladio IT"; mso-list: l1 level2 lfo1}DIV.CaseHeading2 { FONT- WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 16pt; PAGE-BREAK-BEFORE: always; MARGIN: 12pt 0cm 3pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0cm; FONT-FAMILY: "URW Palladio IT"; mso- list: l1 level2 lfo1}SPAN.EmailStyle19 { COLOR: navy; FONT- FAMILY: "URW Palladio IT"; mso-style-type: personal-reply} DIV.Section1 { page: Section1}OL { MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm}UL { MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm}Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Visti, > Thank you for correcting me. I agree any litigation starts with a dispute/ disagreement/ fight for which Mars would be the karka. I somehow thought that Mercury had a strong connection with litigation and tried to look around for some reference. The only case that I could lay my hand quickly was in COVA where Mercury (business) in 6th (litigation) stood for business. May be it has connection with legal communications! > Kind regards > Ramesh > > Visti Larsen [visti@s...] > Wednesday, July 14, 2004 1:53 PM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] litigation...which house and karaka > > > > |Hare Rama Kåñëa| > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar > > Litigation is resorted to when to parties cannot agree on an issue and need the laws help for it. > > Hence litigation is actually fighting between two parties – the karaka is Mars. > > Yours, > > > > Visti Larsen > visti@s... > > > > > Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani@a...] > 14 July 2004 10:19 > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] litigation...which house and karaka > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Ajit, > 6th house stands for litigation and so does Mercury. > Regards > Ramesh > > > ajith@o... [ajith@o...] > Wednesday, July 14, 2004 12:00 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] litigation...which house and karaka > > > > Om Shreem Guruvae Namaha > > Dear Gurus and members, > > Does the 6th house deal with litigitaion and legal problems, is the sun the > karaka for that ? or an afflicted sun ? > > reg > > > K. Ajith > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > vedic astrology/ > > > vedic astrology > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 Dear Visti Namste Yes you are right that purpose of the lawyer is to end the conflict. But that end must be logically convincing to all and according to Satya. That requires deep analysis of the conflict which Saturn gives. Budha is shatru of Mars who triggers the conflict but in that case Budha may end the conflict in a hurry or in casual manner. That is why Shani with good-natured tolerance and analysis rules the lawyers. Jupiter I think will be responsible to establish dharma sahstra. Law makers will be governed by Jupiter where as law interpreters will be by Saturn. Thanks alot for your Time and Sapce. Prabodh Vekhande vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > |Hare Räma Kåñëa| > > Dear Prabodh, Namaskar > > Some lawyers lack any form of analytical ability, question is - what is > their purpose? > > Mercury is dead against Mars, and the purpose of a lawyer is to end > conflict. Whether he analyzes or computes or whatever form of action, his > purpose remains to end conflict. > > Jupiter has the final say on this and is the judge who will decide what is > the right course of action. This is because Jupiter represent the law, > indicated by Sagittarius. Hence proficiency in law is indicated by Jupiter, > whether you are a lawyer or a judge. > > Yours, > > > > > > Visti Larsen > <visti@s...> visti@s... > _____ > > amolmandar [amolmandar] > 16 July 2004 09:15 > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: litigation...which house and karaka > > > > Dear Sarajit Namaste > > I thought that Shani rules lawyer. Budha rules the computing ability > and Shani analytical. > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > vedic astrology, Sarajit Poddar > <sarajitp> wrote: > > || Jaya Jagannath || > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > Mercury rules lawyer and it helps the native overcome the > litigation.. > > > > Regards > > Sarajit > > > > Ramesh Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote: > > v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML)}o\:* { BEHAVIOR: url > (#default#VML)}w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML)}.shape { > BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML)}st1\:* { BEHAVIOR: url > (#default#ieooui)}@font-face { font-family: Wingdings;}@font- face { > font-family: URW Palladio IT;}@font-face { font-family: > Tahoma;}@font-face { font-family: Verdana;}@page Section1 {size: > 612.0pt 792.0pt; margin: 72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt; }P.MsoNormal { > FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times > New Roman"}LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm > 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"}DIV.MsoNormal { FONT- SIZE: > 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"}H2 { FONT- > SIZE: 14pt; MARGIN: 12pt 0cm 3pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0cm; FONT-STYLE: > italic; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-list: l1 level2 lfo1}A:link { > COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}SPAN.MsoHyperlink { > COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}A:visited { > COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline} > SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: blue; > > TEXT-DECORATION: underline}TT { FONT-FAMILY: "Courier New"} > P.CaseHeading2 { FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 16pt; PAGE- > BREAK-BEFORE: always; MARGIN: 12pt 0cm 3pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0cm; FONT- > FAMILY: "URW Palladio IT"; mso-list: l1 level2 lfo1} LI.CaseHeading2 { > FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 16pt; PAGE-BREAK-BEFORE: > always; MARGIN: 12pt 0cm 3pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0cm; FONT-FAMILY: "URW > Palladio IT"; mso-list: l1 level2 lfo1}DIV.CaseHeading2 { FONT- > WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 16pt; PAGE-BREAK-BEFORE: always; MARGIN: > 12pt 0cm 3pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0cm; FONT-FAMILY: "URW Palladio IT"; mso- > list: l1 level2 lfo1}SPAN.EmailStyle19 { COLOR: navy; FONT- > FAMILY: "URW Palladio IT"; mso-style-type: personal-reply} > DIV.Section1 { page: Section1}OL { MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm}UL { > MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm}Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > Dear Visti, > > Thank you for correcting me. I agree any litigation starts with a > dispute/ disagreement/ fight for which Mars would be the karka. I > somehow thought that Mercury had a strong connection with litigation > and tried to look around for some reference. The only case that I > could lay my hand quickly was in COVA where Mercury (business) in > 6th (litigation) stood for business. May be it has connection with > legal communications! > > Kind regards > > Ramesh > > > > Visti Larsen [visti@s...] > > Wednesday, July 14, 2004 1:53 PM > > vedic astrology > > RE: [vedic astrology] litigation...which house and karaka > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Kåñëa| > > > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar > > > > Litigation is resorted to when to parties cannot agree on an issue > and need the laws help for it. > > > > Hence litigation is actually fighting between two parties – the > karaka is Mars. > > > > Yours, > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani@a...] > > 14 July 2004 10:19 > > vedic astrology > > RE: [vedic astrology] litigation...which house and karaka > > > > > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > Dear Ajit, > > 6th house stands for litigation and so does Mercury. > > Regards > > Ramesh > > > > > > ajith@o... [ajith@o...] > > Wednesday, July 14, 2004 12:00 PM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] litigation...which house and karaka > > > > > > > > Om Shreem Guruvae Namaha > > > > Dear Gurus and members, > > > > Does the 6th house deal with litigitaion and legal problems, is > the sun the > > karaka for that ? or an afflicted sun ? > > > > reg > > > > > > K. Ajith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear List Members, Many learned members have contributed to this discussion. Many had brilliant points. Let me summarise my thoughts for a contribution. "Dharma is Law and Litigations and punishments are implementations of Dharma." Keeping this definition Let me explain this whole process of Litigation. Nineth Bhaava is Dharma Bhaava the Kaaraka (Creator) for this bhaava is Jupiter. In Kaalapurusha(Natural Zodiac) where the ownership is metted out as per the best abilities of the grahas to *control* that Bhaava. Jupiter is the owner of the House. So Jupiter Creates and controls dharma. From 9th Bhaava Jupiters Job is seen in 10th house. Which is Six house. So his way of implementing the dharma is through Punishments and hence Litigations comes there. Kaaraka(Creator) of 6th bhaava is Saturn. So Saturn is best creator of the Punishments. Mars is also secondary Kaaraka of 6th house. So Police implement the dharma. Natural Owner of 6th is Mercury so Mercury is the best controller of Punishments. So Lawyers are arguing to control the amount of punishments. We see here that 4th (Vidya) staana of 6th is Dharma. So the Lawyer has to Know Law/Dharma taught by Jupiter. Now the Successful End or Gains of All Dharma is 11th house. (11th Hara/Shiva Staana as per Jaimini). So 11th from Dhanur is Tula which is balance. Where best rays (exaltation) of saturn is seen. So this gives the role of each planet in Mainenance of Dharma. Hope this was liked by the learned members. Warm Regards Sanjay P Om Tat Sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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