Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Hare Krishna Dear Sundeep. I also struggle with Narayana Dasa, but this is what i have learned (perhaps someone who knows better will correct me) Pisces is in your second house of your rasi chart it is an artha house and you will be focused on income or acquistion . We would look at ALL the other PLANETS in dual signs in your chart to see what else is aspecting the sign Pisces, Then you would see what planets are having argala on Pisces, for example from the 2/4 houses from it.That would be planets in aires and gemini, these planets will show influences on your situation during Pisces dasa. Next, see where the Lord of the Dasa Rasi goes, in this case the dasa lord Jupiter is exalted in the natal 6th house and the 5th from the dasa rasi sign. So the lord is strong being exalted, so he will give good results in matters of either education or competitions(landed a job) etc.. things indicated by 5th house placements. ALso 5th is children and creation, so could be some new venture. Now look where transiting Jupiter will be.. DONT forget to look where Sat is trnsiting also,.. of course you can have nice place ments but if it is having malefic aspects through graha and especially rashi dristhi then matters have complications, obstructions etc. so you need to see where other planets are.. Where is Venus? an important planet for you.In this situation. Also please read Narayana dasa where Sanjay explains much more. FOr example, where does your AL fall in relation to Pisces, does moon aspect Pisces, you will become popular etc. Hope that is correct and it helps,, there are others with more experience than i Lakshmi Karyvedic- astrology, "vedicastrostudent" <vedicastrostudent> wrote: > Dear all especially Gurus, > One thing about Narayana Dasa is getting me very confused, and I > think I see contradictory answers in different places. Let me give > you a little detail of a Rasi chart - not the whole detail because I > want to isolate the effects of Narayana Dasa prediction. Please read > carefully, because I think many may have been confused by this type > of problem. My Rasi chart has Aquarius Lagna. 10L Mars is in 8H. > Currently, I am going through Pisces Narayana Dasa. Pisces is 2H. > Now, given that Narayana dasa plots movemement of Lagna through the > chart, my effective Lagna for this period is Pisces. Ruler Jupiter is > in Cancer. So WHEN LOOKING FROM PISCES AS LAGNA, we have the > following: > 1) Ruler of 1 and 10 exalted in 5H. > 2) Ruler of 9 (Mars) in Marana Karaka Sthana i.e. 7H. > Now, what does this mean: > 1) If you predict using the NATAL house meanings, then my career > house ruler, i.e. Mars is in Marana Karaka Sthana FOR THIS NARAYANA > DASA. Should mean struggles at the very least, no? > 2) If you predict using the CURRENT NARAYANA dasa house meanings, my > current career house ruler, i.e. Jupiter is exalted in the 5th house. > Should be an absolutely wonderful time for career, no? > As you can see, the results are COMPLETELY contradictory depending on > what path you adopt to interpret the results. So the question is - > during the Narayan dasa, do the original houses retain their meaning > or not? I would be very confused if you answered that they do not - > because then each Narayana dasa should be completely different, > almost like a different chart (i.e. in one dasa you become Bill > Gates, and in another a pauper - the reality is that for most people > the variations are not that extreme). > > Thank you, > > Sundeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Hi Sundeep, Its better not to confuse natal positions when considering dasa house as the Lagna. You should see the meaning of houses first with respect to the dasa lord and then proceed to apply it with respect to the natal lagna. Remember natal lagna is the ultimate reality around you. It always dominates. Ruler of 1 and 10 exalted in 5H when seen from Pisces could mean that your individual effort (10th house) and (your persona + identity) revels in 5th house qualities in an excellent way during the Pisces dasa. Good deeds of the past make an impact on your physical and social status. However, since Pisces is 2nd house for you from natal lagna the effect of Pisces being marana karaka house will be felt and 1 and 10 now becomes 2 and 11 and its exalted in 6H. Despite the direction of effort / effects as indicated by Pisces lagna, the natal positions will show its effect and actual results. Arudha of Jupiter in this case will be in Taurus (4th house from Lagna, 3rd from Dasa lord). Look at position of Venus and determine its strength. Dispositor of dasa lord will have a major say in the things that fructify. It will also show you how other planets are interrelated to each other in achieving that effect. One more thing. Check where AL is w.r.t. to A2. Though Ju is in a good place w.r.t. to Lagna, good place of A2 w.r.t. AL is a must for the good effects to be visible. Transits and divisional charts modify the result as per the usual rules of interpretation. Raju - vedicastrostudent vedic astrology Wednesday, June 02, 2004 1:41 PM [vedic astrology] Perplexing Narayana Dasa question Dear all especially Gurus,One thing about Narayana Dasa is getting me very confused, and I think I see contradictory answers in different places. Let me give you a little detail of a Rasi chart - not the whole detail because I want to isolate the effects of Narayana Dasa prediction. Please read carefully, because I think many may have been confused by this type of problem. My Rasi chart has Aquarius Lagna. 10L Mars is in 8H. Currently, I am going through Pisces Narayana Dasa. Pisces is 2H. Now, given that Narayana dasa plots movemement of Lagna through the chart, my effective Lagna for this period is Pisces. Ruler Jupiter is in Cancer. So WHEN LOOKING FROM PISCES AS LAGNA, we have the following:1) Ruler of 1 and 10 exalted in 5H.2) Ruler of 9 (Mars) in Marana Karaka Sthana i.e. 7H.Now, what does this mean:1) If you predict using the NATAL house meanings, then my career house ruler, i.e. Mars is in Marana Karaka Sthana FOR THIS NARAYANA DASA. Should mean struggles at the very least, no?2) If you predict using the CURRENT NARAYANA dasa house meanings, my current career house ruler, i.e. Jupiter is exalted in the 5th house. Should be an absolutely wonderful time for career, no?As you can see, the results are COMPLETELY contradictory depending on what path you adopt to interpret the results. So the question is - during the Narayan dasa, do the original houses retain their meaning or not? I would be very confused if you answered that they do not - because then each Narayana dasa should be completely different, almost like a different chart (i.e. in one dasa you become Bill Gates, and in another a pauper - the reality is that for most people the variations are not that extreme).Thank you,SundeepArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Dear Lakshmi and Raju, I am actually struggling to assimilate all of what you have said. Please note that I am only trying to take one thing at a time - I want to know how literally I should take the statement "Use Dasa Rasi as Lagna". Which predictions of yours came from using "Dasa Rasi as Lagna", and which predictions came from simply evaluating the dasa rasi (lordships, influences, drishtis etc)? Also, in response to your questions: 1) Moon and Saturn are in Pisces 2) Venus AK is with Jupiter in Cancer 3) Sun and Mercury are in Gemini 4) Rahu is in Aries Real results I felt around the beginning of this N dasa: 1) Life got much harder after my first kid was born (3 months before this dasa began) - I am attributing this to both Deha and Jeeva having malefics. I am unsure of whether to attribute the focus on child to ruler-of-1-and-10-in-5 or something else (this would be real proof of the "Use Dasa Rasi as Lagna" if there were no other way of reaching this conclusion) 2) Focus on my job dropped significantly. Didnt lose my job though (Mars-the-natal-10L in MKS from Pisces Lagna? - will contradict "Use Dasa Rasi as Lagna") 3) About 8 months after this dasa began I drifted upon this group (vedic astrology). This changed completely my view of spirituality (I was an atheist until this happened). (perhaps because Pisces is A5?). Hope you can elaborate a bit. As I said, I am only trying to understand how literally I should follow "Use Dasa Rasi as Lagna". Sundeep vedic astrology, "lakshmisyama" <lakshmikary@n...> wrote: > Hare Krishna > Dear Sundeep. > I also struggle with Narayana Dasa, but this is what i have learned > (perhaps someone who knows better will correct me) > Pisces is in your second house of your rasi chart it is an artha > house and you will be focused on income or acquistion . > We would look at ALL the other PLANETS in dual signs in your chart to > see what else is aspecting the sign Pisces, > Then you would see what planets are having argala on Pisces, for > example from the 2/4 houses from it.That would be planets in aires > and gemini, these planets will show influences on your situation > during Pisces dasa. > Next, see where the Lord of the Dasa Rasi goes, in this case the dasa > lord Jupiter is exalted in the natal 6th house and the 5th from the > dasa rasi sign. > So the lord is strong being exalted, so he will give good results in > matters of either education or competitions(landed a job) etc.. > things indicated by 5th house placements. > ALso 5th is children and creation, so could be some new venture. > Now look where transiting Jupiter will be.. > DONT forget to look where Sat is trnsiting also,.. > of course you can have nice place ments but if it is having malefic > aspects through graha and especially rashi dristhi then matters have > complications, obstructions etc. > so you need to see where other planets are.. > Where is Venus? an important planet for you.In this situation. > Also please read Narayana dasa where Sanjay explains much more. > FOr example, where does your AL fall in relation to Pisces, > does moon aspect Pisces, you will become popular etc. > Hope that is correct and it helps,, there are others with more > experience than i > Lakshmi Karyvedic- > astrology, "vedicastrostudent" > <vedicastrostudent> wrote: > > Dear all especially Gurus, > > One thing about Narayana Dasa is getting me very confused, and I > > think I see contradictory answers in different places. Let me give > > you a little detail of a Rasi chart - not the whole detail because > I > > want to isolate the effects of Narayana Dasa prediction. Please > read > > carefully, because I think many may have been confused by this type > > of problem. My Rasi chart has Aquarius Lagna. 10L Mars is in 8H. > > Currently, I am going through Pisces Narayana Dasa. Pisces is 2H. > > Now, given that Narayana dasa plots movemement of Lagna through the > > chart, my effective Lagna for this period is Pisces. Ruler Jupiter > is > > in Cancer. So WHEN LOOKING FROM PISCES AS LAGNA, we have the > > following: > > 1) Ruler of 1 and 10 exalted in 5H. > > 2) Ruler of 9 (Mars) in Marana Karaka Sthana i.e. 7H. > > Now, what does this mean: > > 1) If you predict using the NATAL house meanings, then my career > > house ruler, i.e. Mars is in Marana Karaka Sthana FOR THIS NARAYANA > > DASA. Should mean struggles at the very least, no? > > 2) If you predict using the CURRENT NARAYANA dasa house meanings, > my > > current career house ruler, i.e. Jupiter is exalted in the 5th > house. > > Should be an absolutely wonderful time for career, no? > > As you can see, the results are COMPLETELY contradictory depending > on > > what path you adopt to interpret the results. So the question is - > > during the Narayan dasa, do the original houses retain their > meaning > > or not? I would be very confused if you answered that they do not - > > because then each Narayana dasa should be completely different, > > almost like a different chart (i.e. in one dasa you become Bill > > Gates, and in another a pauper - the reality is that for most > people > > the variations are not that extreme). > > > > Thank you, > > > > Sundeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Hi Sundeep, If you are comfortable, please send your chart as a JHD file either as a direct email or as a post. You are adding more details now which can alter previous attempts to interpret. For example: Venus is AK but its also Badhaka for your lagna.; Moon is with Saturn etc... Raju - vedicastrostudent vedic astrology Thursday, June 03, 2004 12:58 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Perplexing Narayana Dasa question Dear Lakshmi and Raju,I am actually struggling to assimilate all of what you have said. Please note that I am only trying to take one thing at a time - I want to know how literally I should take the statement "Use Dasa Rasi as Lagna". Which predictions of yours came from using "Dasa Rasi as Lagna", and which predictions came from simply evaluating the dasa rasi (lordships, influences, drishtis etc)? Also, in response to your questions:1) Moon and Saturn are in Pisces2) Venus AK is with Jupiter in Cancer3) Sun and Mercury are in Gemini4) Rahu is in AriesReal results I felt around the beginning of this N dasa:1) Life got much harder after my first kid was born (3 months before this dasa began) - I am attributing this to both Deha and Jeeva having malefics. I am unsure of whether to attribute the focus on child to ruler-of-1-and-10-in-5 or something else (this would be real proof of the "Use Dasa Rasi as Lagna" if there were no other way of reaching this conclusion)2) Focus on my job dropped significantly. Didnt lose my job though (Mars-the-natal-10L in MKS from Pisces Lagna? - will contradict "Use Dasa Rasi as Lagna")3) About 8 months after this dasa began I drifted upon this (vedic astrology). This changed completely my view of spirituality (I was an atheist until this happened). (perhaps because Pisces is A5?).Hope you can elaborate a bit. As I said, I am only trying to understand how literally I should follow "Use Dasa Rasi as Lagna".Sundeepvedic astrology, "lakshmisyama" <lakshmikary@n...> wrote:> Hare Krishna> Dear Sundeep.> I also struggle with Narayana Dasa, but this is what i have learned> (perhaps someone who knows better will correct me)> Pisces is in your second house of your rasi chart it is an artha > house and you will be focused on income or acquistion .> We would look at ALL the other PLANETS in dual signs in your chart to > see what else is aspecting the sign Pisces,> Then you would see what planets are having argala on Pisces, for > example from the 2/4 houses from it.That would be planets in aires > and gemini, these planets will show influences on your situation > during Pisces dasa.> Next, see where the Lord of the Dasa Rasi goes, in this case the dasa > lord Jupiter is exalted in the natal 6th house and the 5th from the > dasa rasi sign.> So the lord is strong being exalted, so he will give good results in > matters of either education or competitions(landed a job) etc.. > things indicated by 5th house placements.> ALso 5th is children and creation, so could be some new venture.> Now look where transiting Jupiter will be..> DONT forget to look where Sat is trnsiting also,..> of course you can have nice place ments but if it is having malefic > aspects through graha and especially rashi dristhi then matters have > complications, obstructions etc.> so you need to see where other planets are..> Where is Venus? an important planet for you.In this situation.> Also please read Narayana dasa where Sanjay explains much more.> FOr example, where does your AL fall in relation to Pisces,> does moon aspect Pisces, you will become popular etc.> Hope that is correct and it helps,, there are others with more > experience than i> Lakshmi Kary--- In vedic-> astrology, "vedicastrostudent" > <vedicastrostudent> wrote:> > Dear all especially Gurus,> > One thing about Narayana Dasa is getting me very confused, and I > > think I see contradictory answers in different places. Let me give > > you a little detail of a Rasi chart - not the whole detail because > I > > want to isolate the effects of Narayana Dasa prediction. Please > read > > carefully, because I think many may have been confused by this type > > of problem. My Rasi chart has Aquarius Lagna. 10L Mars is in 8H. > > Currently, I am going through Pisces Narayana Dasa. Pisces is 2H. > > Now, given that Narayana dasa plots movemement of Lagna through the > > chart, my effective Lagna for this period is Pisces. Ruler Jupiter > is > > in Cancer. So WHEN LOOKING FROM PISCES AS LAGNA, we have the > > following:> > 1) Ruler of 1 and 10 exalted in 5H.> > 2) Ruler of 9 (Mars) in Marana Karaka Sthana i.e. 7H.> > Now, what does this mean:> > 1) If you predict using the NATAL house meanings, then my career > > house ruler, i.e. Mars is in Marana Karaka Sthana FOR THIS NARAYANA > > DASA. Should mean struggles at the very least, no?> > 2) If you predict using the CURRENT NARAYANA dasa house meanings, > my > > current career house ruler, i.e. Jupiter is exalted in the 5th > house. > > Should be an absolutely wonderful time for career, no?> > As you can see, the results are COMPLETELY contradictory depending > on > > what path you adopt to interpret the results. So the question is -> > during the Narayan dasa, do the original houses retain their > meaning > > or not? I would be very confused if you answered that they do not - > > because then each Narayana dasa should be completely different, > > almost like a different chart (i.e. in one dasa you become Bill > > Gates, and in another a pauper - the reality is that for most > people > > the variations are not that extreme).> > > > Thank you,> > > > SundeepArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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Guest guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sundeep, ND of Pisces will aspect all the DUAL signs and the planets in them will also have a say. The focus is your 5th, 8th and 11th. The placements you have given indicates your 10th co-lord Mars to be in the 8th, indicating the downturn/obstructions in career. (possibly Mars is also co-lord of HL?). Further, Jupiter, though exalted in the 6th with badhak Venus focuses in your service with A10 in it. The interest in occult and spirituality is because Mars is in Virgo (rasi drishti) and that your Hora Lord maybe the Moon (professional side) and birth took place during an odd day during Krishna Navami; propitiate accordingly........... carry on from there :-) Sanjay ji says that most indications/stirrings of the prevailing mahadasa of ND comes into focus 6 months before the due date. Best wishes, Swee swee www.brihaspati.net vedicastrostudent [vedicastrostudent] 03 June 2004 09:58 vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: Perplexing Narayana Dasa question Dear Lakshmi and Raju, I am actually struggling to assimilate all of what you have said. Please note that I am only trying to take one thing at a time - I want to know how literally I should take the statement "Use Dasa Rasi as Lagna". Which predictions of yours came from using "Dasa Rasi as Lagna", and which predictions came from simply evaluating the dasa rasi (lordships, influences, drishtis etc)? Also, in response to your questions: 1) Moon and Saturn are in Pisces 2) Venus AK is with Jupiter in Cancer 3) Sun and Mercury are in Gemini 4) Rahu is in Aries Real results I felt around the beginning of this N dasa: 1) Life got much harder after my first kid was born (3 months before this dasa began) - I am attributing this to both Deha and Jeeva having malefics. I am unsure of whether to attribute the focus on child to ruler-of-1-and-10-in-5 or something else (this would be real proof of the "Use Dasa Rasi as Lagna" if there were no other way of reaching this conclusion) 2) Focus on my job dropped significantly. Didnt lose my job though (Mars-the-natal-10L in MKS from Pisces Lagna? - will contradict "Use Dasa Rasi as Lagna") 3) About 8 months after this dasa began I drifted upon this group (vedic astrology). This changed completely my view of spirituality (I was an atheist until this happened). (perhaps because Pisces is A5?). Hope you can elaborate a bit. As I said, I am only trying to understand how literally I should follow "Use Dasa Rasi as Lagna". Sundeep vedic astrology, "lakshmisyama" <lakshmikary@n...> wrote: > Hare Krishna > Dear Sundeep. > I also struggle with Narayana Dasa, but this is what i have learned > (perhaps someone who knows better will correct me) > Pisces is in your second house of your rasi chart it is an artha > house and you will be focused on income or acquistion . > We would look at ALL the other PLANETS in dual signs in your chart to > see what else is aspecting the sign Pisces, > Then you would see what planets are having argala on Pisces, for > example from the 2/4 houses from it.That would be planets in aires > and gemini, these planets will show influences on your situation > during Pisces dasa. > Next, see where the Lord of the Dasa Rasi goes, in this case the dasa > lord Jupiter is exalted in the natal 6th house and the 5th from the > dasa rasi sign. > So the lord is strong being exalted, so he will give good results in > matters of either education or competitions(landed a job) etc.. > things indicated by 5th house placements. > ALso 5th is children and creation, so could be some new venture. > Now look where transiting Jupiter will be.. > DONT forget to look where Sat is trnsiting also,.. > of course you can have nice place ments but if it is having malefic > aspects through graha and especially rashi dristhi then matters have > complications, obstructions etc. > so you need to see where other planets are.. > Where is Venus? an important planet for you.In this situation. > Also please read Narayana dasa where Sanjay explains much more. > FOr example, where does your AL fall in relation to Pisces, > does moon aspect Pisces, you will become popular etc. > Hope that is correct and it helps,, there are others with more > experience than i > Lakshmi Karyvedic- > astrology, "vedicastrostudent" > <vedicastrostudent> wrote: > > Dear all especially Gurus, > > One thing about Narayana Dasa is getting me very confused, and I > > think I see contradictory answers in different places. Let me give > > you a little detail of a Rasi chart - not the whole detail because > I > > want to isolate the effects of Narayana Dasa prediction. Please > read > > carefully, because I think many may have been confused by this type > > of problem. My Rasi chart has Aquarius Lagna. 10L Mars is in 8H. > > Currently, I am going through Pisces Narayana Dasa. Pisces is 2H. > > Now, given that Narayana dasa plots movemement of Lagna through the > > chart, my effective Lagna for this period is Pisces. Ruler Jupiter > is > > in Cancer. So WHEN LOOKING FROM PISCES AS LAGNA, we have the > > following: > > 1) Ruler of 1 and 10 exalted in 5H. > > 2) Ruler of 9 (Mars) in Marana Karaka Sthana i.e. 7H. > > Now, what does this mean: > > 1) If you predict using the NATAL house meanings, then my career > > house ruler, i.e. Mars is in Marana Karaka Sthana FOR THIS NARAYANA > > DASA. Should mean struggles at the very least, no? > > 2) If you predict using the CURRENT NARAYANA dasa house meanings, > my > > current career house ruler, i.e. Jupiter is exalted in the 5th > house. > > Should be an absolutely wonderful time for career, no? > > As you can see, the results are COMPLETELY contradictory depending > on > > what path you adopt to interpret the results. So the question is - > > during the Narayan dasa, do the original houses retain their > meaning > > or not? I would be very confused if you answered that they do not - > > because then each Narayana dasa should be completely different, > > almost like a different chart (i.e. in one dasa you become Bill > > Gates, and in another a pauper - the reality is that for most > people > > the variations are not that extreme). > > > > Thank you, > > > > Sundeep Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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