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Om Subrahmanyaya Namah

 

Dear Rameshji,

 

The Rasi bedam depends on the purpose.

 

Yet, from Aries, Rasis are divided as oja-yugma, male-female. All oja

rasis are cruel (malefic) and viceversa. What all we see with oja

rasis will be cruel. (In Prasna if we are thinking about any animal,

that will be very cruel...) In a horoscope, if Ascendant and Moon are

in oja rasi, it's said that the native will be cruel, for yugma

rasis, the result will be opposite. Again, if malefic planets are in

the hora of Sun in Oja rasis, the results will be max(very curel)

otherwise reduced. Similarly, if benefics are in yugma rasi (benefic

sign) in the Moon Hora, the person will be kind, peacefully disposed

etc; can be seen. This is applicable to any horoscope whether it's of

male or female, with due considerations.

 

Now for shadbala strength, I'm sure that you know the human signs

like Gemini, Virgo etc in Lagna are prefered, hence we see that Human

signs in Lagna are benefic. Lagna will be powerless if it's in Sc(in

bhava madhyam)... So the benefic signs in this purpose depends on

other matters. Sheershodaya signs are benefic as Lagna, as it can

help for Ayur etc, in Prasna related to yes or no questions this can

to a good extent shows success. Prasna Marga goes on to differentiate

Rasis with Krita, Treta etc; Ca,Sc and Pi are Kali Yuga signs.Anyway,

as I see it, the question of benefic and malefic depends on the

purpose, once we leave the above para(which is quoted by classics).

And, Sagittarius is a Satvic sign yet a war like one, while Pisces is

a double bodied and Rajasic sign.

 

As per English calender today is our Gurudev, Pt Sanjay Ji's

birhthday. He wrote earlier that He wont see groups for three months,

yet, I take this opportunity to wish Him a wonderful year ahead. I

pray to Lord Subrahmanya for early success in His mission.

 

Best Regards,

 

Saaji

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Ramesh Gangaramani"

<ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote:

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Dear Learned members,

>

> I wish to clarify some fundamental doubts about Rashis being

benefic or

> malefic. One way of classifying them as benefic and malefic is

based on

> natural characteristics of the lord of the Rashi, i.e Saggi and

Pieces which

> are ruled by Jupiter become benefic. I have the following

translation from

> BPHS which defines alternate rashis as Malefic and Benefic.

>

> " 5-5½. Classification of Rasis. Movable, Fixed and Dual are the

names given

> to the 12 Rasis in order. These are again known, as malefic and

benefic,

> successively. Similarly are male and female. Mesh, Simh and Dhanu

are

> bilious. Vrishabh, Kanya and Makar are windy. Mithun, Tula and

Kumbh are

> mixed, while the rest are phlegmatic."

>

> there is also a translation from Saravali as follows;

>

> "20-21. Rasis Benefic and Malefic, Gandanta and its Effects. From

Aries

> onwards alternatively the Rasis are known, as malefic and benefic

on the one

> hand and male and female on the other hand. "

>

> If I take the above definition Saggi becomes malefic and Pisces

benefic. I

> wish to understand which is the right way of classifying the rashis

as

> benefic or malefic.

>

> Thanks and Kind Regards

> Ramesh

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Jaya Jagannatha

 

Why you call rasis as Malefic & Benefic ... English Language is with

out Juice or Substance!

 

Sanskrit is a Divine Language which gives correct meaning, but we

dont have English words to describe it properly ...

 

Kroora & Saumya ..

 

Kroora is Harsh, rough,

Saumya is Tender, Cool, Soft

 

Now -) The Queen ( Moon), Cancer is Saumya. The King ( Sun), Leo is

Kroora. The Planets are mixture of both.. Kroora & Saumya ..

 

But Again there is a differentiation Shubha & Ashubha Graha .. etc

 

Samarth. Rao

 

Jaya Jagannatha

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Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Saaji,

 

Thank you for explaining things that I was not aware of. Honestly my query

came up while studying Narayana Dasa book. While reading the same I noted

down the following.

 

1. Dasa Trend, 1/3rd rule: Dasa sign benefic= effect in beginning, malefic=

in end, Pisces (exception) = middle. The other 2 parts are judged by lord

and planets conjoining/ aspecting respectively.

2. Another approach: Generally the Dasa period can be divided in 3 parts.

Results of 1st part will be governed by the house (Rashi), 2nd by the lord

and 3rd by the planets that occupy/ aspect the Dasa Rashi. (also used by PVR

in VAIA)

3. Effects of Rashi: will be felt during beginning, Mid or end depending

upon the type of Rashi; Sirsodaya, Ubhayodaya or pristodaya respectively. So

Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Virgo, Libra and Saggi will give results in the

beginning, Pisces in middle and remaining rashis in the end.

 

I found points 1 and 3 difficult to reconcile with the malefic/benefic

definition for Rashi based on odd/even sequence. They however reconciled

when I took rashis with benefic lords to be benefic and vica versa. I

haven't done any reading on Prasna Marg so far. May be I will understand

some of what you have stated when I start reading the same.

 

Best Regards

Ramesh

 

 

saaji kulangara [saajik]

Saturday, August 07, 2004 1:27 PM

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology] Re: Benefic and Malefic rashis

 

 

Om Subrahmanyaya Namah

 

Dear Rameshji,

 

The Rasi bedam depends on the purpose.

 

Yet, from Aries, Rasis are divided as oja-yugma, male-female. All oja

rasis are cruel (malefic) and viceversa. What all we see with oja

rasis will be cruel. (In Prasna if we are thinking about any animal,

that will be very cruel...) In a horoscope, if Ascendant and Moon are

in oja rasi, it's said that the native will be cruel, for yugma

rasis, the result will be opposite. Again, if malefic planets are in

the hora of Sun in Oja rasis, the results will be max(very curel)

otherwise reduced. Similarly, if benefics are in yugma rasi (benefic

sign) in the Moon Hora, the person will be kind, peacefully disposed

etc; can be seen. This is applicable to any horoscope whether it's of

male or female, with due considerations.

 

Now for shadbala strength, I'm sure that you know the human signs

like Gemini, Virgo etc in Lagna are prefered, hence we see that Human

signs in Lagna are benefic. Lagna will be powerless if it's in Sc(in

bhava madhyam)... So the benefic signs in this purpose depends on

other matters. Sheershodaya signs are benefic as Lagna, as it can

help for Ayur etc, in Prasna related to yes or no questions this can

to a good extent shows success. Prasna Marga goes on to differentiate

Rasis with Krita, Treta etc; Ca,Sc and Pi are Kali Yuga signs.Anyway,

as I see it, the question of benefic and malefic depends on the

purpose, once we leave the above para(which is quoted by classics).

And, Sagittarius is a Satvic sign yet a war like one, while Pisces is

a double bodied and Rajasic sign.

 

As per English calender today is our Gurudev, Pt Sanjay Ji's

birhthday. He wrote earlier that He wont see groups for three months,

yet, I take this opportunity to wish Him a wonderful year ahead. I

pray to Lord Subrahmanya for early success in His mission.

 

Best Regards,

 

Saaji

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Ramesh Gangaramani"

<ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote:

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Dear Learned members,

>

> I wish to clarify some fundamental doubts about Rashis being

benefic or

> malefic. One way of classifying them as benefic and malefic is

based on

> natural characteristics of the lord of the Rashi, i.e Saggi and

Pieces which

> are ruled by Jupiter become benefic. I have the following

translation from

> BPHS which defines alternate rashis as Malefic and Benefic.

>

> " 5-5½. Classification of Rasis. Movable, Fixed and Dual are the

names given

> to the 12 Rasis in order. These are again known, as malefic and

benefic,

> successively. Similarly are male and female. Mesh, Simh and Dhanu

are

> bilious. Vrishabh, Kanya and Makar are windy. Mithun, Tula and

Kumbh are

> mixed, while the rest are phlegmatic."

>

> there is also a translation from Saravali as follows;

>

> "20-21. Rasis Benefic and Malefic, Gandanta and its Effects. From

Aries

> onwards alternatively the Rasis are known, as malefic and benefic

on the one

> hand and male and female on the other hand. "

>

> If I take the above definition Saggi becomes malefic and Pisces

benefic. I

> wish to understand which is the right way of classifying the rashis

as

> benefic or malefic.

>

> Thanks and Kind Regards

> Ramesh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Ramesh,

 

1. First decide based on the rising of the sign, where is the result of the sign would be.

 

2. Once the slot of the sign is taken, try finding out the more benefic among

the lord and the planets conjoined/ aspect. The more benefic one (natural

benefic), would take the first of the two remaining slot.

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

-

Ramesh Gangaramani

saaji kulangara ; vedic astrology

Sunday, August 08, 2004 6:36 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Benefic and Malefic rashis

Satyam Bruyat Priyam BruyatDear Saaji,Thank you for explaining things that I was

not aware of. Honestly my querycame up while studying Narayana Dasa book. While

reading the same I noteddown the following.1. Dasa Trend, 1/3rd rule: Dasa sign

benefic= effect in beginning, malefic=in end, Pisces (exception) = middle. The

other 2 parts are judged by lordand planets conjoining/ aspecting

respectively.2. Another approach: Generally the Dasa period can be divided in 3

parts.Results of 1st part will be governed by the house (Rashi), 2nd by the

lordand 3rd by the planets that occupy/ aspect the Dasa Rashi. (also used by

PVRin VAIA)3. Effects of Rashi: will be felt during beginning, Mid or end

dependingupon the type of Rashi; Sirsodaya, Ubhayodaya or pristodaya

respectively. SoTaurus, Gemini, Cancer, Virgo, Libra and Saggi will give

results in thebeginning, Pisces in middle and remaining rashis in the end.I

found points 1 and 3 difficult to reconcile with the malefic/beneficdefinition

for Rashi based on odd/even sequence. They however reconciledwhen I took rashis

with benefic lords to be benefic and vica versa. Ihaven't done any reading on

Prasna Marg so far. May be I will understandsome of what you have stated when I

start reading the same.Best RegardsRameshsaaji

kulangara [saajik ]Saturday, August 07, 2004 1:27 PMTo:

vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Benefic and

Malefic rashisOm Subrahmanyaya NamahDear Rameshji,The Rasi bedam depends on the

purpose.Yet, from Aries, Rasis are divided as oja-yugma, male-female. All

ojarasis are cruel (malefic) and viceversa. What all we see with ojarasis will

be cruel. (In Prasna if we are thinking about any animal,that will be very

cruel...) In a horoscope, if Ascendant and Moon arein oja rasi, it's said that

the native will be cruel, for yugmarasis, the result will be opposite. Again,

if malefic planets are inthe hora of Sun in Oja rasis, the results will be

max(very curel)otherwise reduced. Similarly, if benefics are in yugma rasi

(beneficsign) in the Moon Hora, the person will be kind, peacefully

disposedetc; can be seen. This is applicable to any horoscope whether it's

ofmale or female, with due considerations.Now for shadbala strength, I'm sure

that you know the human signslike Gemini, Virgo etc in Lagna are prefered,

hence we see that Humansigns in Lagna are benefic. Lagna will be powerless if

it's in Sc(inbhava madhyam)... So the benefic signs in this purpose depends

onother matters. Sheershodaya signs are benefic as Lagna, as it canhelp for

Ayur etc, in Prasna related to yes or no questions this canto a good extent

shows success. Prasna Marga goes on to differentiateRasis with Krita, Treta

etc; Ca,Sc and Pi are Kali Yuga signs.Anyway,as I see it, the question of

benefic and malefic depends on thepurpose, once we leave the above para(which

is quoted by classics).And, Sagittarius is a Satvic sign yet a war like one,

while Pisces isa double bodied and Rajasic sign.As per English calender today

is our Gurudev, Pt Sanjay Ji'sbirhthday. He wrote earlier that He wont see

groups for three months,yet, I take this opportunity to wish Him a wonderful

year ahead. Ipray to Lord Subrahmanya for early success in His mission.Best

Regards,Saajivedic astrology, "Ramesh

Gangaramani"<ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote:> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat>>

Dear Learned members,>> I wish to clarify some fundamental doubts about Rashis

beingbenefic or> malefic. One way of classifying them as benefic and malefic

isbased on> natural characteristics of the lord of the Rashi, i.e Saggi

andPieces which> are ruled by Jupiter become benefic. I have the

followingtranslation from> BPHS which defines alternate rashis as Malefic and

Benefic.>> " 5-5½. Classification of Rasis. Movable, Fixed and Dual are

thenames given> to the 12 Rasis in order. These are again known, as malefic

andbenefic,> successively. Similarly are male and female. Mesh, Simh and

Dhanuare> bilious. Vrishabh, Kanya and Makar are windy. Mithun, Tula andKumbh

are> mixed, while the rest are phlegmatic.">> there is also a translation from

Saravali as follows;>> "20-21. Rasis Benefic and Malefic, Gandanta and its

Effects. FromAries> onwards alternatively the Rasis are known, as malefic and

beneficon the one> hand and male and female on the other hand. ">> If I take

the above definition Saggi becomes malefic and Piscesbenefic. I> wish to

understand which is the right way of classifying the rashisas> benefic or

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