Guest guest Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Dear Members, After reflecting on it a little bit, I realized if bad prediction counts towards bad karma, a good prediction and suggestion of remedies should count towards good karma. So it should even out or good karma should increase as we get better and practice astrology with care. Actually in my opinion astrology can be compared to a doctors profession. A doctor treats the physical body and astrologer the mind by giving hope either through remedies or telling him good times are ahead based on the chart. So the way the Karma works for an astrologer should be the same as that of a doctor. In a way, astrologers have more responsibility because they are dealing with mind which is very sensitive than the physical body. Perhaps this is the reason why Parashara stresses on the qualities of an astrologer in his Brihat Parasara Hora Shashtra. -Kumanan vedic astrology, "Kumanan" <rkumanan> wrote: > > Dear Members, > > Yesterday when I was speaking to my mother I casually said that I am > learning astrology. She was greatly worried and it seems some > ascetic told her that learning astrology is not good for the family > in general. > > It seems the ascetic feels that > > every bad prediction we make for a person counts as bad karma since > we are guiding the person in a wrong direction > > every prediction we make (even if it is a correct one) that causes > worries for any person counts as bad Karma. > > because of all the above bad karmas, an astrologers life has lot of > suffering. > > is this true ? Please let me know your thoughts. > > Thanks so much. > > -Kumanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 Dear Viswanadham, Thank you for your kind reply and sharing your wisdom. It was very interesting to read your email. I just have one question. > > It is said on this list and elsewhere that 'Agni'tatwa is enhanced in > astrologers (you can link it to the inflated egos of many > astrologers - a capital I, if you like it)and also that the nodes are > activated. Depending on the charts of astrologers (Sarpa doshas, KSY > or other ill placement of the nodes), the results may manifest and is > the combined wisdom of some observers that astrologers face problems > (material). Does this mean that we should analyze our chart before deciding to practice astrology ? > > So, we are in awareness.... > My only intention was to understand why the ascetic felt that way. These are things that are very hard to understand. What better way to understand than posting in this forum where people like you enlighten the new students. I apologize if my posting sounded any different. Honestly, I have been having two minds since I started learning astrology. One mind thinks that ignorance (about our future) is bliss and succumbs easily to fears like karmic effects. Hence my previous post to clear myself on any doubts. The other mind is very much fascinated about the subject and thinks that this knowledge is essential. My fascination is not that much on the predictions side, but the philosophical side of it. It lets me see things differently in life. For example, I learnt that Sani Bhagwan (Saturn) causes suffering because only through suffering one can get closer to emancipation. Knowing this will definitely help cope up difficult times. I still remember in chennai where I grew up, people in my locality use "Saniyane" a derogatory term, meaning a person who causes trouble. Just shows how ignorant we were. Thanks again, Kumanan > > vedic astrology, "Kumanan" <rkumanan> > wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > > > After reflecting on it a little bit, I realized if bad prediction > > counts towards bad karma, a good prediction and suggestion of > > remedies should count towards good karma. So it should even out or > > good karma should increase as we get better and practice astrology > > with care. > > > > Actually in my opinion astrology can be compared to a doctors > > profession. A doctor treats the physical body and astrologer the > > mind by giving hope either through remedies or telling him good > > times are ahead based on the chart. So the way the Karma works for > > an astrologer should be the same as that of a doctor. > > > > In a way, astrologers have more responsibility because they are > > dealing with mind which is very sensitive than the physical body. > > > > Perhaps this is the reason why Parashara stresses on the qualities > > of an astrologer in his Brihat Parasara Hora Shashtra. > > > > -Kumanan > > > > vedic astrology, "Kumanan" <rkumanan> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > Yesterday when I was speaking to my mother I casually said that I > > am > > > learning astrology. She was greatly worried and it seems some > > > ascetic told her that learning astrology is not good for the > > family > > > in general. > > > > > > It seems the ascetic feels that > > > > > > every bad prediction we make for a person counts as bad karma > > since > > > we are guiding the person in a wrong direction > > > > > > every prediction we make (even if it is a correct one) that > causes > > > worries for any person counts as bad Karma. > > > > > > because of all the above bad karmas, an astrologers life has lot > > of > > > suffering. > > > > > > is this true ? Please let me know your thoughts. > > > > > > Thanks so much. > > > > > > -Kumanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 Hare Rama Krishna Der Kumanan, When i said, we i meant you & me! Not you vs us. Questions will lead further questions like Free will etc., basic thing is if you are honing up skills over several life times, can you run away from that? regards viswanadham vedic astrology, "Kumanan" <rkumanan> wrote: > > Dear Viswanadham, > > Thank you for your kind reply and sharing your wisdom. It was very > interesting to read your email. I just have one question. > > > > > It is said on this list and elsewhere that 'Agni'tatwa is enhanced in > > astrologers (you can link it to the inflated egos of many > > astrologers - a capital I, if you like it)and also that the nodes are > > activated. Depending on the charts of astrologers (Sarpa doshas, KSY > > or other ill placement of the nodes), the results may manifest and is > > the combined wisdom of some observers that astrologers face problems > > (material). > > Does this mean that we should analyze our chart before deciding to > practice astrology ? > > > > > So, we are in awareness.... > > > > My only intention was to understand why the ascetic felt that way. > These are things that are very hard to understand. What better way to > understand than posting in this forum where people like you enlighten > the new students. I apologize if my posting sounded any different. > > Honestly, I have been having two minds since I started learning > astrology. One mind thinks that ignorance (about our future) is bliss > and succumbs easily to fears like karmic effects. Hence my previous > post to clear myself on any doubts. > > The other mind is very much fascinated about the subject and thinks > that this knowledge is essential. My fascination is not that much on > the predictions side, but the philosophical side of it. It lets me see > things differently in life. For example, I learnt that Sani Bhagwan > (Saturn) causes suffering because only through suffering one can get > closer to emancipation. Knowing this will definitely help cope up > difficult times. I still remember in chennai where I grew up, people > in my locality use "Saniyane" a derogatory term, meaning a person who > causes trouble. Just shows how ignorant we were. > > Thanks again, > Kumanan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Kumanan" <rkumanan> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > After reflecting on it a little bit, I realized if bad prediction > > > counts towards bad karma, a good prediction and suggestion of > > > remedies should count towards good karma. So it should even out or > > > good karma should increase as we get better and practice astrology > > > with care. > > > > > > Actually in my opinion astrology can be compared to a doctors > > > profession. A doctor treats the physical body and astrologer the > > > mind by giving hope either through remedies or telling him good > > > times are ahead based on the chart. So the way the Karma works for > > > an astrologer should be the same as that of a doctor. > > > > > > In a way, astrologers have more responsibility because they are > > > dealing with mind which is very sensitive than the physical body. > > > > > > Perhaps this is the reason why Parashara stresses on the qualities > > > of an astrologer in his Brihat Parasara Hora Shashtra. > > > > > > -Kumanan > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Kumanan" <rkumanan> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > Yesterday when I was speaking to my mother I casually said that I > > > am > > > > learning astrology. She was greatly worried and it seems some > > > > ascetic told her that learning astrology is not good for the > > > family > > > > in general. > > > > > > > > It seems the ascetic feels that > > > > > > > > every bad prediction we make for a person counts as bad karma > > > since > > > > we are guiding the person in a wrong direction > > > > > > > > every prediction we make (even if it is a correct one) that > > causes > > > > worries for any person counts as bad Karma. > > > > > > > > because of all the above bad karmas, an astrologers life has lot > > > of > > > > suffering. > > > > > > > > is this true ? Please let me know your thoughts. > > > > > > > > Thanks so much. > > > > > > > > -Kumanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 Dear Kumanan, Some simple (short) and humble thougths; - Jyotish is one of the branches of Ved, e.g. a spiritual matter, hence studying or practicing it properly should not bring curses to anybody. - A student of Jyotish should not start giving out predictions unless he has reached a good level of expertise, e.g.he can predict with a good level of proficiency. We do not take passengers in a car when we are still trying to learn how to drive it. - Predictions should be given out in such a way as to help and not harm the native, so bad karma should not result out of this. Of course all these are easily said, but not at all simple in practice. Some personal thoughts, Sabri. vedic astrology, "Kumanan" <rkumanan> wrote: > > Dear Members, > > Yesterday when I was speaking to my mother I casually said that I am > learning astrology. She was greatly worried and it seems some > ascetic told her that learning astrology is not good for the family > in general. > > It seems the ascetic feels that > > every bad prediction we make for a person counts as bad karma since > we are guiding the person in a wrong direction > > every prediction we make (even if it is a correct one) that causes > worries for any person counts as bad Karma. > > because of all the above bad karmas, an astrologers life has lot of > suffering. > > is this true ? Please let me know your thoughts. > > Thanks so much. > > -Kumanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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