Guest guest Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 Thanks for the help in advance AStro"R.C.Srivastava" <swami_rcs > wrote: Congratulations Shri Rao Nemani for successful observation about questioner being already married once. Thanks for demonstration of right application of Rules of progression taught by Sri S Rath. Also sri Rath discloses basic secret of Kuta matching so a student can only express his gratitude to Pt Rath for such wonderful practical insights. RCS Re: Compatibility Analysis Can someone do a detailed compatibility analysis on the below mentioned details... My details: DOB : 12:12:1973 Time: 21:00 hrs(9:00 pm) Place: Jodhpur(Rajasthan) Boys Details: DOB: 01.05.1973 Place:New Delhi Time: 2:23 am Astro Astro Know <astroneed >Rectification: Dear All, Apologies...For the female it will be her second marriage... RegardsASTRO wrote: The first marriage of the female indeed broke up after a short span of 2 months. So for the female the analysis has to be done for the first marriage , while for the boy, it will be the first marriage. More details for the analysis can be provided . Thanks in advance. ASTRO Rao Nemani wrote: Dear Astro. When I have looked at the female's chart, I have noticed that this person should have already got married:I have rectified the birth time of the native to 21:01:32. Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Merc MD: 1993-01-14 (16:21:35) - 2010-01-15 (1:03:04) Mars AD: 2001-07-17 (3:13:12) - 2002-07-14 (5:49:59) Merc PD: 2002-01-13 (12:26:05) - 2002-03-04 (11:40:07) Why I am thinking because: If you look at the Sun's progressions in D-9:- Lagna=Li Sun = Pi 7th house: Ar=2,14,26,38Trines to 7th House Le=6,18,30,42 Sg=10,22,34, So the year 2002/2003 indicating for a first marriage. Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Merc MD: 1993-01-07 (22:48:24) - 2010-01-08 (7:35:05) Mars AD: 2001-07-09 (22:41:00) - 2002-07-07 (1:19:57) Ket PD: 2002-02-25 (15:41:55) - 2002-03-18 (11:19:19) Merc MD is in Navamsa lagna is sure give the marriage to the native. Now Mars AD, which is placed in Ta ( with Rahu and Mandi, please make a note of this, that is why I have suspected a problem with the first marriage) is having a argala form the 7th lord Venus in the Navamsa. So this Antar Dasa is sure to give marriage to the native. Now why the Ket P.D gave a marriage to the native because, Ket is in trines to Venus who is also 7th lord in Navamsa. Now why the first marraige ended or had problems:- Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Merc MD: 1993-01-07 (22:48:24) - 2010-01-08 (7:35:05) Mars AD: 2001-07-09 (22:41:00) - 2002-07-07 (1:19:57) Ven PD: 2002-03-18 (11:19:19) - 2002-05-18 (7:07:12) I think, the above Ven P.D the marriage must have ended or had some serious problems, because, the 2nd form UL in Navamsa has Sat and he is having a Rasi drshti on Venus, Sun in Pi and also on A7 in Ge. Here the Venus is 7th lord in Rasi so the possibilities of a prblem in this P.D rather than Sun P.D which comes after this. More over Sun won't break the marriage. So now the question to Astro is : Can you please confirm whether you have asked for this Female's first marriage or second marriage compatability. If this is her first marriage then, I am completely off the track and if it is second marriage then I would like to go ahead for the compatability analysis.Gurs' and learned members: I wanted to apply the AL,UL and A7 principles on this request, if Astro confirms that the female's chart is for the second marriage then: *** Do I have to consider the 2nd UL for this, which is 8th from the 1st UL? Regards Raghunadha Rao Rao Nemani <raon1008 > wrote:Hare Rama Krishna Namaste Sanjay Ji, Thanks for your reply with clear suggestions on how to approach for the compatability analysis. Please guide me/us, on what situations, one shoud use the UL, AL and A7 comptability. Thanks for your help in advance. Regards Raghunadha Rao vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <guruji@s...wrote:::om namo bhagavate vasudevaya:: Dear RaghunadhaKnow that the simplistic method of simply adding the Kuta numbers is the most foolish thing being done by many astrologers today. Each kuta has a separate meaning and a separate indication. try to understand the implications of the Kuta. let us say we are going to get a match for a warrior and find that his bride is going to be a very cowardly and timid woman, although very kind and knowledable. is this going to produce good kshatriya .offsprings? So the Rajju matching is vital for kshatriyas. Similarly the gotra is of vital signifcance to the brahmana while this has nil relevance to the sudra. Finally, there is no point in arguing with people about this. Simply see what the bride and groom to be are doing. If they are in police or army then use kshatriya rules, if doing work like writing books etc, then brahmana..do not use the birth caste for this purpose else you can be way off the mark in your analysis. The basic idea is to yoke two people having similar attitudes, desires and aspirations. With best regards, Sanjay RathRao Nemani Namaste Guru's and Learned Memebers, I also wanted to learn the Marriage compatability analysis including using the Kuta system. So May I request you to please consider the following request from "AstroKnow" and give your analysis. So that students like me can get the principles from your reply and alos these two charts as an example/exercise too.Thanks for your help in advance. Regards Raghunadha Rao Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70/year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Astro, I am working on your request on the "Compatability" using the Arudha's and writing soon. So be patinet for a little more time. Regards Raghunadha Rao vedic astrology, Astro Know <astroneed> wrote: > Thanks for the lovely analysis. Can anyone please give me more insight on this. > > Thanks for the help in advance > AStro > "R.C.Srivastava" <swami_rcs> wrote: > > Congratulations Shri Rao Nemani for successful observation about questioner being already married once. Thanks for demonstration of right application of Rules of progression taught by Sri S Rath. Also sri Rath discloses basic secret of Kuta matching so a student can only express his gratitude to Pt Rath for such wonderful practical insights. > > RCS > > Re: Compatibility Analysis > > Can someone do a detailed compatibility analysis on the below mentioned details... > My details: DOB : 12:12:1973 Time: 21:00 hrs(9:00 pm) Place: Jodhpur (Rajasthan) > Boys Details: DOB: 01.05.1973 Place:New Delhi Time: 2:23 am > Astro > > Astro Know <astroneed>Rectification: Dear All, > Apologies...For the female it will be her second marriage... Regards > ASTRO wrote: > The first marriage of the female indeed broke up after a short span of 2 months. So for the female the analysis has to be done for the first marriage , while for the boy, it will be the first marriage. More details for the analysis can be provided . > Thanks in advance. ASTRO > Rao Nemani wrote: Dear Astro. When I have looked at the female's chart, I have noticed that this person should have already got married: > I have rectified the birth time of the native to 21:01:32. > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > Merc MD: 1993-01-14 (16:21:35) - 2010-01-15 (1:03:04) > Mars AD: 2001-07-17 (3:13:12) - 2002-07-14 (5:49:59) > Merc PD: 2002-01-13 (12:26:05) - 2002-03-04 (11:40:07) > Why I am thinking because: > If you look at the Sun's progressions in D-9:- > Lagna=Li Sun = Pi 7th house: Ar=2,14,26,38 > Trines to 7th House Le=6,18,30,42 Sg=10,22,34, > So the year 2002/2003 indicating for a first marriage. > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > Merc MD: 1993-01-07 (22:48:24) - 2010-01-08 (7:35:05) > Mars AD: 2001-07-09 (22:41:00) - 2002-07-07 (1:19:57) > Ket PD: 2002-02-25 (15:41:55) - 2002-03-18 (11:19:19) > Merc MD is in Navamsa lagna is sure give the marriage to the native. Now Mars AD, which is placed in Ta ( with Rahu and Mandi, please make a note of this, that is why I have suspected a problem with the first marriage) is having a argala form the 7th lord Venus in the Navamsa. So this Antar Dasa is sure to give marriage to the native. Now why the Ket P.D gave a marriage to the native because, Ket is in trines to Venus who is also 7th lord in Navamsa. > Now why the first marraige ended or had problems:- > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > Merc MD: 1993-01-07 (22:48:24) - 2010-01-08 (7:35:05) > Mars AD: 2001-07-09 (22:41:00) - 2002-07-07 (1:19:57) > Ven PD: 2002-03-18 (11:19:19) - 2002-05-18 (7:07:12) > I think, the above Ven P.D the marriage must have ended or had some serious problems, because, the 2nd form UL in Navamsa has Sat and he is having a Rasi drshti on Venus, Sun in Pi and also on A7 in Ge. Here the Venus is 7th lord in Rasi so the possibilities of a prblem in this P.D rather than Sun P.D which comes after this. More over Sun won't break the marriage. > So now the question to Astro is : Can you please confirm whether you have asked for this Female's first marriage or second marriage compatability. If this is her first marriage then, I am completely off the track and if it is second marriage then I would like to go ahead for the compatability analysis. > Gurs' and learned members: I wanted to apply the AL,UL and A7 principles on this request, if Astro confirms that the female's chart is for the second marriage then: > *** Do I have to consider the 2nd UL for this, which is 8th from the 1st UL? > Regards Raghunadha Rao > Rao Nemani <raon1008> wrote: > Hare Rama Krishna Namaste Sanjay Ji, > Thanks for your reply with clear suggestions on how to approach for the compatability analysis. Please guide me/us, on what situations, one shoud use the UL, AL and A7 comptability. Thanks for your help in advance. Regards Raghunadha Rao > > vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <guruji@s...: > ::om namo bhagavate vasudevaya:: Dear Raghunadha > Know that the simplistic method of simply adding the Kuta numbers is the most foolish thing being done by many astrologers today. Each kuta has a separate meaning and a separate indication. try to understand the implications of the Kuta. > let us say we are going to get a match for a warrior and find that his bride is going to be a very cowardly and timid woman, although very kind and knowledable. is this going to produce good kshatriya .offsprings? So the Rajju matching is vital for kshatriyas. Similarly the gotra is of vital signifcance to the brahmana while this has nil relevance to the sudra. > Finally, there is no point in arguing with people about this. Simply see what the bride and groom to be are doing. If they are in police or army then use kshatriya rules, if doing work like writing books etc, then brahmana..do not use the birth caste for this purpose else you can be way off the mark in your analysis. The basic idea is to yoke two people having similar attitudes, desires and aspirations. With best regards, Sanjay Rath > > Rao Nemani Namaste Guru's and Learned Memebers, > I also wanted to learn the Marriage compatability analysis including using the Kuta system. So May I request you to please consider the following request from "AstroKnow" and give your analysis. So that students like me can get the principles from your reply and alos these two charts as an example/exercise too. > Thanks for your help in advance. Regards Raghunadha Rao > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Dear sarvshree Rao and Ramdas Rao ji Thanks for compatibility analysis and additional comments as it is a very good illustration of application of classical Rules. Is it correct to summarise that?Apart from AL UL A7 matching consideration1. Seventh Lord(7L)of both be not enemies2. Strength and nature of planets conjunct/associated to 7L should be analysed.3.Analysis for progeny be done invariably.well , i seek a little clarification on( A). "Now Surya in boy's chart and Shani (V) in Girl's chart are in 3-11 ie., opposing each other by directional aspect as Mesha is East and Mithuna is west.This is a major affliction for married life as there will be always conflicts between the 2." What is the reason to give importance to sun and saturn here.Secondly. (B) what are the rules for checking RINBANDHAN . Marriage or interaction is not possible ( except temporary) without rinbhandhan between the two. In other words How to spot if both are going to marry or not. Thanking in anticipation. Hope experts will educate in this matter too. ---------------original message ------------------------- Rao Nemani <raon1008 >Re : Marriage compitablity Hare Rama Krishna Dear Astro, Here I am giving my analysis using the AL, UL and A7. First I will dothe Girl's and the Boy's analysis independntly and then I will do the combined analysis at the end. ============== Girl's Analysis ========== Venus' placement and planetary influences will give an idea of the type of love/sex or even marriage which the native will have. So, the placement of Venus with Jup indicates that Vivaha of "Brahma" or "Brahmin". This also Signfies marriage at a mature age to a capable and responsible person. Ones sexual partner is chosen very carefully in this case. Distance & Direction of the spouse:-=========================== Venus being Kalatrakaraka tells us when, where and how the spouse is brought, as well as delays in the same. This is seen from the 7th house and lord from Venus, for the first spouse, and 2nd house for the second spouse. So in this case, 2nd from Venus is Aq and lord Sat is retro placed in Ge with Ke. Co lord Rahu is plaed in Sg and aspecting Retro Sat and Ketu too. So I would consdier Sat being stronger than Rahu. So Sat is placed in Dual sign hence the spouse should be living near to this girl. Quality of relations:-============== The relation between the Arudha Lagna and Darapada will show the natives attitude towards relations and the opposite sex. In this girls chart, the Darapada is in 6th/8th from the Arudha Lagna, So, we can predict an incompatible attitude towards sex. This usually indicates a person who does not enjoy the ideal of sex, or has different ideas about the same. Here, malefic's joining and also aspecting the Darapada indicate ill orbad relationships. The lord of Darapada will show whether the native is satisfied with their relations or not. Here the lords of Darapada is Mars and Ketu and Ketu is being stronger and placed in 12th from Lagna indicates that this native may not indulge in sexual activity, and will always be self-satisfied. UpaPada:-======== To ensure that a native can marry, we must ascertain the native's ability to give. This is done by seeing the relationship between Arudha Lagna and Upapada. Here in this girl's Chart, the UL is placed in Ar and the second spouse is seen from 8th from Ar, which is Sc. So now UL(2) in Sc and AL is in Ar, which means, the Upapada is in the 8th from Arudha Lagna. This indicates that the spouse/marriage causes a lot ofsorrow to the native. Here you will also notice that , many malefic's join the Upapada. So this indictes to me that, there is a lot of pain associated with giving/marriage. There is one Good thing here, that is Jup is aspecting the UL(2) to by rashi drishti, so things can change this for good. Quality of spouse:-============= The Upapada shows the person one will consider as a spouse, hence the qualities of that spouse and heritage is indicated: * Benefics in Upapada, indicate a beautiful spouse, with good qualities and traits. Malefic's indicate otherwise. In this Girl's chart, Sun and Merc are placed in UL(2). * Sun in Upapada can give marriage to a politician/king, a very learned person, and maybe even a priest. Marriage may happen in a reasonable age.* Mercury in Upapada (and strong) will indicate a young looking and fickle minded spouse. It can also indicate marriage at a young age. The spouse will be artistic, intelligent and talkative. Troubles to spouse/marriage:-===================== The planets in the 7th from Upapada, shows those in-laws who openly oppose the marriage, in this case there are no planets. The Badhakesh from the Upapada will show the people who are causing direct obstruction to the marriage from happening. In this case it is Venus so a girlfriend / lover is indicated, which is obstructing to the marriage to happen. The 2nd house from Upapada shows the troubles to marriage here this girl has Rahu and aspecting the UL Lords Mars as well as Ketu from Sg. So there is a problem to the 2nd marriage too. Various troubles to marriage:-=====================Here in this girl's chart Rahu is in 2nd from Upapada can cause lies, extramarital ties. You will also notice that, this Retro Saturn is aspecting this 2nd from UL which will cause scandal. ============= Boy's Analysis ============ Here the marriage is "Arsha", literally meaning 'Sage-like'. This marriage happens as per the highest Dharma, where marital union happens with respect to God,parents and friends, without breaking any traditions. Here the sun must be associated with the 9th and devoid of the association with Venus. Distance & direction of the spouse:-========================== First spouse is seen from 7th from Venus, which is Li and its lord is Venand placed in Ar, which is a Movable sign, so the spouse is from Far or abroad. Quality of relations:-============== In this boy's chart, the Darapada is in 6th/8th from the Arudha Lagna, So, we can predict an incompatible attitude towards sex. This usually indicates a person who does not enjoy the ideal of sex, or has different ideas about the same. Here, malefic's joining and also aspecting the Darapada indicate ill or bad relationships. The lord of Darapada will show whether the native is satisfied with their relations or not. Here the lords of Darapada is Mars and Ketu and Ketu is being stronger and placed in 12th from Lagna indicates that this native may not indulge in sexual activity, and will always be self-satisfied. UpaPada:-======== In this Boy's chart, the UL is Vi and AL is in Ta, which means, the Upapadais in 5th/9th from Arudha Lagna. This indicates the native is in perfect harmony with the act of giving and will have a happy marriage. Here you will notice that, no malefic's join the Upapada, but Rahu, Ketu and Merc is aspecting this UL by Rasi Drishti. So this indictes to me that, there is some pain associated with giving/marriage. There is one Good thing here, that is Jup is aspecting the UL to by rashi drishti from Cp, so things can change this for good. Quality of spouse:-============== The Upapada shows the person one will consider as a spouse, hence the qualities of that spouse and heritage is indicated: In this Boys's chart, There are no planets in UL, but Rahu, Merc, Moon and Ketu are aspecting the UL by rasi drishti so let us take Rahu for example here: * Rahu in Upapada can indicate marriage to a foreigner, a materialisticspouse, or a criminal. Generally the spouse will be very argumentative and fond quarrels. Troubles to spouse/marriage:-===================== The planets in the 7th from Upapada, shows those in-laws who openly opposethe marriage, in this case Moon and Merc are placed hence Mother will oppose to the marriage. The Badhakesh from the Upapada will show the people who are causing direct obstruction to the marriage from happening. In this case ALSO it is Venus so a girlfriend / lover is indicated, which is obstructing to the marriage to happen. In this case, there are no planets in 2nd from UL, but aspected by Mars and Sat by Rashi drishti. Vens and Sun are aspecting 2nd from UL so marriage will not break. ====================== Comptability analysis =================== Having done the invidual analysis, now I am doing the compatability analysisfor girl's 2nd marriage and boy's first marriage. >From Girl's Chart:-=============Lagna = Cn2nd UL is : 8th from UL ( Ar ), which is Sc.A7 = ScAL = ArMoon in Cn.AK = Sun >From Boy's: Chart:-==============Lagna = AqUL = ViAL = TaA7 = SgMoon in PiAK = Merc Upapada Matching Rule:-==================The Upapada of the native should fall into trinal or opposite signs from the Lagna of the spouse, and the Lagna of the native should fall into trinalor opposite signs from the Upapada of the spouse for being compatible. Here the Girl's UL is in Ar and Boy's Lagna is Aq and they are not neither in Trines nor in opposite. A7 Matching:-==========Here the A7 are in Trines and that is good. AL Matching :-==========Here the AL's are in 2/12 relationship and not a good indication. Based on the above detailed analysis, I am seeing these two may not have a good compatability and hence may not marry also. Having said that, May I request Guru's and Learned Members to please go thru my analysis and correct me whereever I am wrong, so that I can learn from there. RegardsRaghunadha Rao Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: Re : Marriage compitablity ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Rao, Superb Analysis.In addition to the analysis you did, I wanted to add some more points. Now 7th lord for the girl is Shani and 7th lord for Boy is Surya which are enemies to each other.In girl's chart,her 7th lord Shani is Vakra and is with Ketu in Mithuna and in boy's chart,his 7th lord Surya is in Mesha with Shukra.Here Patni Karaka Shukra became weak due to Surya's exaltation and this is a affliction to his married life.Now Surya in boy's chart and Shani (V) in Girl's chart are in 3-11 ie., opposing each other by directional aspect as Mesha is East and Mithuna is west.This is a major affliction for married life as there will be always conflicts between the 2.Now coming to 5th house which is Putra Sthana, in girl's chart 5th house Vrischika is placed with malefic Budha and 2nd lord Surya whereas the 5th lord Kuja is placed in his Moola Trikona Sthana but is in trine with Rahu indicatingSarpa Dosha in begetting children.In boy's chart, 5th house is occupied by Ketu which also indicates problems in getting children due to Preta Shaapa and 5th lord Budha is in 2nd in Maraka Sthana and is debilitated with 6th lord.In girl's chart 5th house is under paapa Karthari Yoga between Mandi and Rahu. Also 5th lord Kuja in Navamsha is with Rahu and Mandi clearly indicating Sarpa Dosha in begetting children.In boy's chart,Putra Karaka Guru is under Papa Karthari Yoga between Kuja and Rahu.So by considering all these Doshas, I feel the matching is not there between the 2.I hope this helps you.With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Srivastava Ji, I have geiven a clear analysis and if you take your own time to read completely ,you will be able to understand why I told about Surya and Shani.Shani (V) is the 7th lord for the girl who is afflicted by Ketu in western sign of Mithuna and Surya in boy's chart is 7th lord exaleted in Mesha in eastern sign and Kalatra Karaka gets afflicted or weakened due to Surya's ( Exalted ) presence. So wehn we compare both the charts, Surya and Shani (V) afflcited are in opposite directions and as we know the planets opposite to each other aspect each other and vice versa.Shani in girl's chart is a enemy for Surya which is 7th lord in Boy's chart and now you can see how both charts be matched . With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao."R.C.Srivastava" <swami_rcs > wrote: Dear sarvshree Rao and Ramdas Rao ji Thanks for compatibility analysis and additional comments as it is a very good illustration of application of classical Rules. Is it correct to summarise that?Apart from AL UL A7 matching consideration1. Seventh Lord(7L)of both be not enemies2. Strength and nature of planets conjunct/associated to 7L should be analysed.3.Analysis for progeny be done invariably.well , i seek a little clarification on( A). "Now Surya in boy's chart and Shani (V) in Girl's chart are in 3-11 ie., opposing each other by directional aspect as Mesha is East and Mithuna is west.This is a major affliction for married life as there will be always conflicts between the 2." What is the reason to give importance to sun and saturn here.Secondly. (B) what are the rules for checking RINBANDHAN . Marriage or interaction is not possible ( except temporary) without rinbhandhan between the two. In other words How to spot if both are going to marry or not. Thanking in anticipation. Hope experts will educate in this matter too. ---------------original message ------------------------- Rao Nemani <raon1008 >Re : Marriage compitablity Hare Rama Krishna Dear Astro, Here I am giving my analysis using the AL, UL and A7. First I will dothe Girl's and the Boy's analysis independntly and then I will do the combined analysis at the end. ============== Girl's Analysis ========== Venus' placement and planetary influences will give an idea of the type of love/sex or even marriage which the native will have. So, the placement of Venus with Jup indicates that Vivaha of "Brahma" or "Brahmin". This also Signfies marriage at a mature age to a capable and responsible person. Ones sexual partner is chosen very carefully in this case. Distance & Direction of the spouse:-=========================== Venus being Kalatrakaraka tells us when, where and how the spouse is brought, as well as delays in the same. This is seen from the 7th house and lord from Venus, for the first spouse, and 2nd house for the second spouse. So in this case, 2nd from Venus is Aq and lord Sat is retro placed in Ge with Ke. Co lord Rahu is plaed in Sg and aspecting Retro Sat and Ketu too. So I would consdier Sat being stronger than Rahu. So Sat is placed in Dual sign hence the spouse should be living near to this girl. Quality of relations:-============== The relation between the Arudha Lagna and Darapada will show the natives attitude towards relations and the opposite sex. In this girls chart, the Darapada is in 6th/8th from the Arudha Lagna, So, we can predict an incompatible attitude towards sex. This usually indicates a person who does not enjoy the ideal of sex, or has different ideas about the same. Here, malefic's joining and also aspecting the Darapada indicate ill orbad relationships. The lord of Darapada will show whether the native is satisfied with their relations or not. Here the lords of Darapada is Mars and Ketu and Ketu is being stronger and placed in 12th from Lagna indicates that this native may not indulge in sexual activity, and will always be self-satisfied. UpaPada:-======== To ensure that a native can marry, we must ascertain the native's ability to give. This is done by seeing the relationship between Arudha Lagna and Upapada. Here in this girl's Chart, the UL is placed in Ar and the second spouse is seen from 8th from Ar, which is Sc. So now UL(2) in Sc and AL is in Ar, which means, the Upapada is in the 8th from Arudha Lagna. This indicates that the spouse/marriage causes a lot ofsorrow to the native. Here you will also notice that , many malefic's join the Upapada. So this indictes to me that, there is a lot of pain associated with giving/marriage. There is one Good thing here, that is Jup is aspecting the UL(2) to by rashi drishti, so things can change this for good. Quality of spouse:-============= The Upapada shows the person one will consider as a spouse, hence the qualities of that spouse and heritage is indicated: * Benefics in Upapada, indicate a beautiful spouse, with good qualities and traits. Malefic's indicate otherwise. In this Girl's chart, Sun and Merc are placed in UL(2). * Sun in Upapada can give marriage to a politician/king, a very learned person, and maybe even a priest. Marriage may happen in a reasonable age.* Mercury in Upapada (and strong) will indicate a young looking and fickle minded spouse. It can also indicate marriage at a young age. The spouse will be artistic, intelligent and talkative. Troubles to spouse/marriage:-===================== The planets in the 7th from Upapada, shows those in-laws who openly oppose the marriage, in this case there are no planets. The Badhakesh from the Upapada will show the people who are causing direct obstruction to the marriage from happening. In this case it is Venus so a girlfriend / lover is indicated, which is obstructing to the marriage to happen. The 2nd house from Upapada shows the troubles to marriage here this girl has Rahu and aspecting the UL Lords Mars as well as Ketu from Sg. So there is a problem to the 2nd marriage too. Various troubles to marriage:-=====================Here in this girl's chart Rahu is in 2nd from Upapada can cause lies, extramarital ties. You will also notice that, this Retro Saturn is aspecting this 2nd from UL which will cause scandal. ============= Boy's Analysis ============ Here the marriage is "Arsha", literally meaning 'Sage-like'. This marriage happens as per the highest Dharma, where marital union happens with respect to God,parents and friends, without breaking any traditions. Here the sun must be associated with the 9th and devoid of the association with Venus. Distance & direction of the spouse:-========================== First spouse is seen from 7th from Venus, which is Li and its lord is Venand placed in Ar, which is a Movable sign, so the spouse is from Far or abroad. Quality of relations:-============== In this boy's chart, the Darapada is in 6th/8th from the Arudha Lagna, So, we can predict an incompatible attitude towards sex. This usually indicates a person who does not enjoy the ideal of sex, or has different ideas about the same. Here, malefic's joining and also aspecting the Darapada indicate ill or bad relationships. The lord of Darapada will show whether the native is satisfied with their relations or not. Here the lords of Darapada is Mars and Ketu and Ketu is being stronger and placed in 12th from Lagna indicates that this native may not indulge in sexual activity, and will always be self-satisfied. UpaPada:-======== In this Boy's chart, the UL is Vi and AL is in Ta, which means, the Upapadais in 5th/9th from Arudha Lagna. This indicates the native is in perfect harmony with the act of giving and will have a happy marriage. Here you will notice that, no malefic's join the Upapada, but Rahu, Ketu and Merc is aspecting this UL by Rasi Drishti. So this indictes to me that, there is some pain associated with giving/marriage. There is one Good thing here, that is Jup is aspecting the UL to by rashi drishti from Cp, so things can change this for good. Quality of spouse:-============== The Upapada shows the person one will consider as a spouse, hence the qualities of that spouse and heritage is indicated: In this Boys's chart, There are no planets in UL, but Rahu, Merc, Moon and Ketu are aspecting the UL by rasi drishti so let us take Rahu for example here: * Rahu in Upapada can indicate marriage to a foreigner, a materialisticspouse, or a criminal. Generally the spouse will be very argumentative and fond quarrels. Troubles to spouse/marriage:-===================== The planets in the 7th from Upapada, shows those in-laws who openly opposethe marriage, in this case Moon and Merc are placed hence Mother will oppose to the marriage. The Badhakesh from the Upapada will show the people who are causing direct obstruction to the marriage from happening. In this case ALSO it is Venus so a girlfriend / lover is indicated, which is obstructing to the marriage to happen. In this case, there are no planets in 2nd from UL, but aspected by Mars and Sat by Rashi drishti. Vens and Sun are aspecting 2nd from UL so marriage will not break. ====================== Comptability analysis =================== Having done the invidual analysis, now I am doing the compatability analysisfor girl's 2nd marriage and boy's first marriage. >From Girl's Chart:-=============Lagna = Cn2nd UL is : 8th from UL ( Ar ), which is Sc.A7 = ScAL = ArMoon in Cn.AK = Sun >From Boy's: Chart:-==============Lagna = AqUL = ViAL = TaA7 = SgMoon in PiAK = Merc Upapada Matching Rule:-==================The Upapada of the native should fall into trinal or opposite signs from the Lagna of the spouse, and the Lagna of the native should fall into trinalor opposite signs from the Upapada of the spouse for being compatible. Here the Girl's UL is in Ar and Boy's Lagna is Aq and they are not neither in Trines nor in opposite. A7 Matching:-==========Here the A7 are in Trines and that is good. AL Matching :-==========Here the AL's are in 2/12 relationship and not a good indication. Based on the above detailed analysis, I am seeing these two may not have a good compatability and hence may not marry also. Having said that, May I request Guru's and Learned Members to please go thru my analysis and correct me whereever I am wrong, so that I can learn from there. RegardsRaghunadha Rao Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: Re : Marriage compitablity ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Rao, Superb Analysis.In addition to the analysis you did, I wanted to add some more points. Now 7th lord for the girl is Shani and 7th lord for Boy is Surya which are enemies to each other.In girl's chart,her 7th lord Shani is Vakra and is with Ketu in Mithuna and in boy's chart,his 7th lord Surya is in Mesha with Shukra.Here Patni Karaka Shukra became weak due to Surya's exaltation and this is a affliction to his married life.Now Surya in boy's chart and Shani (V) in Girl's chart are in 3-11 ie., opposing each other by directional aspect as Mesha is East and Mithuna is west.This is a major affliction for married life as there will be always conflicts between the 2.Now coming to 5th house which is Putra Sthana, in girl's chart 5th house Vrischika is placed with malefic Budha and 2nd lord Surya whereas the 5th lord Kuja is placed in his Moola Trikona Sthana but is in trine with Rahu indicatingSarpa Dosha in begetting children.In boy's chart, 5th house is occupied by Ketu which also indicates problems in getting children due to Preta Shaapa and 5th lord Budha is in 2nd in Maraka Sthana and is debilitated with 6th lord.In girl's chart 5th house is under paapa Karthari Yoga between Mandi and Rahu. Also 5th lord Kuja in Navamsha is with Rahu and Mandi clearly indicating Sarpa Dosha in begetting children.In boy's chart,Putra Karaka Guru is under Papa Karthari Yoga between Kuja and Rahu.So by considering all these Doshas, I feel the matching is not there between the 2.I hope this helps you.With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Dear Saji By Dasa sandhi do you mean changing over of dashas in individual charts , and not necessarily similar dasha transitions(for eg both changing from Moon to Mars) for both? Is there any consideration to be given for the possibility of same dashas running for both for longer durations(say overlapping of Saturn dasha for both for a period of say 10 years)? How exactly is the transition of dashas getting initiated?May be for this i need to know the logic behind assignment of specific no of years for each dasha. Thanks a lot in advance Pradeep vedic astrology, "saaji kulangara" <saajik> wrote: > Om Subrahmanyaya Namah > > Dear Srivastavaji, > > For marriage compatibility these points are also important: > > 1) The very important point, the first thing most astrologers see is > longevity. Applying basic principles, we can find this. A lambayur > horoscope and alpayur horoscope should never be matched...... > > 2) Kuta points. This is important from the point that, it ensures > mutual understanding and common tastes and habits. > > 3) Kuja and other doshas. This can indicate loss of spouce etc > matching in this regard is very very important. Otherwise it can, if > not big, result in competition between partners to prove who is great > and 'can' > result in serious differences. > > 4) Dasa sandhi is to be seen in both horos. This should not happen in > the horoscopes at the same period. > > 5) Combination in horoscopes. Dr Raman says Ve,Ma,Su and Mo etc if > placed in 3-11 positions or 5-9 positions in one horoscope and the > other can indicate good bond between the partners. > > --------------------- > > The Lag and 7th L enimity is termed as a general point, like wise > there is, common signs if in 7th can indicate more than one marriage. > But these points are to be seen from many angles, if you see rasis, > which all can ensure freindship of 1st and 7th lords? If this is the > thing no one can marry!!! > > What is important is over all nature of the horoscopes, evenif there > are flaws, experienced astrologers match many horoscopes because one > may not get better horos for the limitations in the horos.Then there > could be points like if one is not married before a particular > period, the next time for marriage can be extended indefinitely or > one may not marry etc; Again, some points like samasaptama etc; if > there is in the horoscope can overtake many evils. A good muhurta > also can over come most defects, atleast partially... > > Best Wishes, > > Saaji > > > vedic astrology, "R.C.Srivastava" > <swami_rcs> wrote: > > Dear sarvshree Rao and Ramdas Rao ji > > Thanks for compatibility analysis and additional comments as it is > a very good illustration of application of classical Rules. > > Is it correct to summarise that? > > Apart from AL UL A7 matching consideration > > 1. Seventh Lord(7L)of both be not enemies > > 2. Strength and nature of planets conjunct/associated to 7L > should be analysed. > > 3.Analysis for progeny be done invariably. > > well , i seek a little clarification on( A). "Now Surya in boy's > > chart and Shani (V) in Girl's chart are in 3-11 ie., opposing > > each other by directional aspect as Mesha is East and Mithuna is > west.This is a major affliction for married life as there will be > always conflicts between the 2." > > What is the reason to give importance to sun and saturn here. > > Secondly. (B) what are the rules for checking RINBANDHAN . > > Marriage or interaction is not possible ( except temporary) without > rinbhandhan between the two. In other words How to spot if both are > going to marry or not. > > Thanking in anticipation. Hope experts will educate in this matter > too. > > ---------------original message ------------------------- > > > > > > Rao Nemani <raon1008> > > Re : Marriage compitablity > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Dear Astro, > > > > Here I am giving my analysis using the AL, UL and A7. First I will > do > > the Girl's and the Boy's analysis independntly and then I will do > the > > combined analysis at the end. > > > > ============== Girl's Analysis ========== > > > > Venus' placement and planetary influences will give an idea of the > type > > of love/sex or even marriage which the native will have. So, the > placement > > of Venus with Jup indicates that Vivaha of "Brahma" or "Brahmin". > This also > > Signfies marriage at a mature age to a capable and responsible > person. Ones > > sexual partner is chosen very carefully in this case. > > > > Distance & Direction of the spouse:- > > =========================== > > > > Venus being Kalatrakaraka tells us when, where and how the spouse is > > brought, as well as delays in the same. This is seen from the 7th > house > > and lord from Venus, for the first spouse, and 2nd house for the > second > > spouse. So in this case, 2nd from Venus is Aq and lord Sat is retro > placed > > in Ge with Ke. Co lord Rahu is plaed in Sg and aspecting Retro Sat > and > > Ketu too. So I would consdier Sat being stronger than Rahu. So > Sat is > > placed in Dual sign hence the spouse should be living near to this > girl. > > > > Quality of relations:- > > ============== > > > > The relation between the Arudha Lagna and Darapada will show the > natives > > attitude towards relations and the opposite sex. > > > > In this girls chart, the Darapada is in 6th/8th from the Arudha > Lagna, > > So, we can predict an incompatible attitude towards sex. This > usually > > indicates a person who does not enjoy the ideal of sex, or has > different > > ideas about the same. > > > > Here, malefic's joining and also aspecting the Darapada indicate > ill or > > bad relationships. > > > > The lord of Darapada will show whether the native is satisfied with > their > > relations or not. Here the lords of Darapada is Mars and Ketu and > Ketu is > > being stronger and placed in 12th from Lagna indicates that this > native > > may not indulge in sexual activity, and will always be self- > satisfied. > > > > UpaPada:- > > ======== > > > > To ensure that a native can marry, we must ascertain the native's > ability > > to give. This is done by seeing the relationship between Arudha > Lagna and > > Upapada. > > > > Here in this girl's Chart, the UL is placed in Ar and the second > spouse is > > seen from 8th from Ar, which is Sc. > > > > So now UL(2) in Sc and AL is in Ar, which means, the Upapada is in > the 8th > > from Arudha Lagna. This indicates that the spouse/marriage causes > a lot of > > sorrow to the native. > > > > Here you will also notice that , many malefic's join the Upapada. > So this > > indictes to me that, there is a lot of pain associated with > giving/marriage. > > There is one Good thing here, that is Jup is aspecting the UL(2) > to by rashi > > drishti, so things can change this for good. > > > > > > Quality of spouse:- > > ============= > > > > The Upapada shows the person one will consider as a spouse, hence > the > > qualities of that spouse and heritage is indicated: > > > > * Benefics in Upapada, indicate a beautiful spouse, with good > qualities > > and traits. Malefic's indicate otherwise. > > > > In this Girl's chart, Sun and Merc are placed in UL(2). > > * Sun in Upapada can give marriage to a politician/king, a very > learned person, > > and maybe even a priest. Marriage may happen in a reasonable age. > > * Mercury in Upapada (and strong) will indicate a young looking and > fickle > > minded spouse. It can also indicate marriage at a young age. The > spouse will > > be artistic, intelligent and talkative. > > > > Troubles to spouse/marriage:- > > ===================== > > > > The planets in the 7th from Upapada, shows those in-laws who openly > oppose > > the marriage, in this case there are no planets. > > > > The Badhakesh from the Upapada will show the people who are causing > direct > > obstruction to the marriage from happening. In this case it is > Venus so a > > girlfriend / lover is indicated, which is obstructing to the > marriage to happen. > > > > The 2nd house from Upapada shows the troubles to marriage here this > girl has > > Rahu and aspecting the UL Lords Mars as well as Ketu from Sg. So > there is a > > problem to the 2nd marriage too. > > > > Various troubles to marriage:- > > ===================== > > Here in this girl's chart Rahu is in 2nd from Upapada can cause > lies, > > extramarital ties. You will also notice that, this Retro Saturn is > > aspecting this 2nd from UL which will cause scandal. > > > > ============= Boy's Analysis ============ > > > > > > > > > > Here the marriage is "Arsha", literally meaning 'Sage-like'. This > > marriage happens as per the highest Dharma, where marital union > happens > > with respect to God,parents and friends, without breaking any > traditions. > > Here the sun must be associated with the 9th and devoid of the > association > > with Venus. > > > > Distance & direction of the spouse:- > > ========================== > > > > First spouse is seen from 7th from Venus, which is Li and its lord > is Ven > > and placed in Ar, which is a Movable sign, so the spouse is from > Far or abroad. > > > > Quality of relations:- > > ============== > > > > In this boy's chart, the Darapada is in 6th/8th from the Arudha > Lagna, So, we > > can predict an incompatible attitude towards sex. This usually > indicates a > > person who does not enjoy the ideal of sex, or has different ideas > about the same. > > > > Here, malefic's joining and also aspecting the Darapada indicate > ill or bad > > relationships. > > > > The lord of Darapada will show whether the native is satisfied with > their > > relations or not. Here the lords of Darapada is Mars and Ketu and > Ketu is being > > stronger and placed in 12th from Lagna indicates that this native > may not > > indulge in sexual activity, and will always be self-satisfied. > > > > UpaPada:- > > ======== > > > > In this Boy's chart, the UL is Vi and AL is in Ta, which means, the > Upapada > > is in 5th/9th from Arudha Lagna. This indicates the native is in > perfect > > harmony with the act of giving and will have a happy marriage. > > > > Here you will notice that, no malefic's join the Upapada, but Rahu, > Ketu > > and Merc is aspecting this UL by Rasi Drishti. So this indictes to > me that, > > there is some pain associated with giving/marriage. There is one > Good thing > > here, that is Jup is aspecting the UL to by rashi drishti from Cp, > so things > > can change this for good. > > > > Quality of spouse:- > > ============== > > > > The Upapada shows the person one will consider as a spouse, hence > the > > qualities of that spouse and heritage is indicated: > > > > In this Boys's chart, There are no planets in UL, but Rahu, Merc, > Moon > > and Ketu are aspecting the UL by rasi drishti so let us take Rahu > for > > example here: > > > > * Rahu in Upapada can indicate marriage to a foreigner, a > materialisticspouse > > , or a criminal. Generally the spouse will be very argumentative > and fond quarrels. > > > > Troubles to spouse/marriage:- > > ===================== > > > > The planets in the 7th from Upapada, shows those in-laws who openly > oppose > > the marriage, in this case Moon and Merc are placed hence Mother > will oppose > > to the marriage. > > > > The Badhakesh from the Upapada will show the people who are causing > direct > > obstruction to the marriage from happening. In this case ALSO it is > Venus so > > a girlfriend / lover is indicated, which is obstructing to the > marriage to happen. > > > > In this case, there are no planets in 2nd from UL, but aspected by > Mars and > > Sat by Rashi drishti. Vens and Sun are aspecting 2nd from UL so > marriage > > will not break. > > > > ====================== Comptability analysis =================== > > > > Having done the invidual analysis, now I am doing the compatability > analysis > > for girl's 2nd marriage and boy's first marriage. > > > > From Girl's Chart:- > > ============= > > Lagna = Cn > > 2nd UL is : 8th from UL ( Ar ), which is Sc. > > A7 = Sc > > AL = Ar > > Moon in Cn. > > AK = Sun > > > > From Boy's: Chart:- > > ============== > > Lagna = Aq > > UL = Vi > > AL = Ta > > A7 = Sg > > Moon in Pi > > AK = Merc > > > > Upapada Matching Rule:- > > ================== > > The Upapada of the native should fall into trinal or opposite signs > from > > the Lagna of the spouse, and the Lagna of the native should fall > into trinal > > or opposite signs from the Upapada of the spouse for being > compatible. > > > > Here the Girl's UL is in Ar and Boy's Lagna is Aq and they are not > neither > > in Trines nor in opposite. > > > > A7 Matching:- > > ========== > > Here the A7 are in Trines and that is good. > > > > AL Matching :- > > ========== > > Here the AL's are in 2/12 relationship and not a good indication. > > > > Based on the above detailed analysis, I am seeing these two may not > have a > > good compatability and hence may not marry also. > > > > Having said that, May I request Guru's and Learned Members to > please go thru > > my analysis and correct me whereever I am wrong, so that I can > learn from there. > > > > Regards > > Raghunadha Rao Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> > > Re: Re : Marriage compitablity > > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > Dear Rao, > > Superb Analysis. > > In addition to the analysis you did, I wanted to add some more > points. Now 7th > > lord for the girl is Shani and 7th lord for Boy is Surya which are > enemies to > > each other.In girl's chart,her 7th lord Shani is Vakra and is with > Ketu in > > Mithuna and in boy's chart,his 7th lord Surya is in Mesha with > Shukra.Here > > Patni Karaka Shukra became weak due to Surya's exaltation and this > is a affliction > > to his married life.Now Surya in boy's chart and Shani (V) in > Girl's chart are in > > 3-11 ie., opposing each other by directional aspect as Mesha is > East and Mithuna is > > west.This is a major affliction for married life as there will be > always conflicts > > between the 2.Now coming to 5th house which is Putra Sthana, in > girl's chart > > 5th house Vrischika is placed with malefic Budha and 2nd lord Surya > whereas the 5th > > lord Kuja is placed in his Moola Trikona Sthana but is in trine > with Rahu indicating > > Sarpa Dosha in begetting children.In boy's chart, 5th house is > occupied by Ketu which > > also indicates problems in > > getting children due to Preta Shaapa and 5th lord Budha is in 2nd > in Maraka Sthana > > and is debilitated with 6th lord.In girl's chart 5th house is under > paapa Karthari > > Yoga between Mandi and Rahu. Also 5th lord Kuja in Navamsha is with > Rahu and Mandi > > clearly indicating Sarpa Dosha in begetting children.In boy's > chart,Putra Karaka Guru > > is under Papa Karthari Yoga between Kuja and Rahu.So by considering > all these Doshas, > > I feel the matching is not there between the 2. > > I hope this helps you. > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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