Mudda Dasha continuation of previous mail.

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Namaste friends,

 

> Dear Anil,> This in continuation of my earlier mail regarding Tajik.> If you

mean Compressed (reduced to one year) Vimshottary when you said> Mudda dasha,

as done by many astrologers, Then it is a Nakshatra based> dasha and could be

used. The problem however arises since interpretation> of Planets as friendly

or inimical varies from those of Vimshottary. One> should use it in real life

horoscope and find out for one self. Some> astrologers also use Yogini dasha in

a similar fashion.> Regards,> Chandrashekhar.

 

Mudda dasa is a variation of Vimsottari dasa for annual charts. It is not

computed based on the nakshatra occupied by Moon in the annual chart. Instead,

it is based on the nakshatra occupied by Moon in the natal chart. This

nakshatra is progressed by one nakshatra eveyr year. This dasa gives some

results, but I was not very satisfied with it.

 

In h9is book on Varshaphal, Dr. Raman taught an annual dasa that is also known

as Patyayini dasa. In my humble experience with Tajaka varsha chakras (annual

solar return charts), this dasa gives the best results.

May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha

[Guest guest]

Dear Narasimha,

 

Yes you are right. That is why I have also said that for Tajik system

Patyayani is the right dasha. This is why I said that one should use

Mudda and other variations on real life horoscopes and find out for

himself if that can be used.

 

I am not very convinced about use of Mudda dasha as it is called for the

reason, the rationale behind using Natal chart as basis for Varshaphal

interpretation by one system being mixed with Natal horoscopy escapes

me. Some astrologers I know also use

Muthahaa position as a reference of this.

 

Parashara has given the rationale of why he gives utmost importance to

vimshottary by saying as the 120 year period of that dasha coincides

with maximum life span of a human being. This is another reason I do not

think it is appropriate to use a garbled form projecting as belonging to

Tajik system.

 

Modern day scholars have invented many dasha systems by cannibalising

various dasha systems and they are no doubt expert in their application.

But Parashara has used different planetary periods and even dropped some

planets from consideration in some Nakashatra dashas. I am certain he

knew what he was preaching and mere compression of dashas might not be

very correct. But I am from an earlier generation and my views could be

at variance with views held today. I am certain you will understand me.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

 

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao wrote:

 

> Namaste friends,

>

> > Dear Anil,

> > This in continuation of my earlier mail regarding Tajik.

> > If you mean Compressed (reduced to one year) Vimshottary when you said

> > Mudda dasha, as done by many astrologers, Then it is a Nakshatra based

> > dasha and could be used. The problem however arises since interpretation

> > of Planets as friendly or inimical varies from those of Vimshottary. One

> > should use it in real life horoscope and find out for one self. Some

> > astrologers also use Yogini dasha in a similar fashion.

> > Regards,

> > Chandrashekhar.

>

> Mudda dasa is a variation of Vimsottari dasa for annual charts. It is

> not computed based on the nakshatra occupied by Moon in the annual

> chart. Instead, it is based on the nakshatra occupied by Moon in the

> natal chart. This nakshatra is progressed by one nakshatra eveyr year.

> This dasa gives some results, but I was not very satisfied with it.

>

> In h9is book on Varshaphal, Dr. Raman taught an annual dasa that is

> also known as Patyayini dasa. In my humble experience with Tajaka

> varsha chakras (annual solar return charts), this dasa gives the best

> results.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

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Namaste Chandrashekhar ji,

 

I agree with you on some points and beg to differ on others.

 

Natal chart shows the birth of a person. If another entity with a dfifferent

paramyush than 120 years is born at a time (e.g. a government), it makes

perfect sense to compress dasas. The rules that govern a government are

similar to those that govern a person. Simply, the paramayush is different.

Thus, I completely support compressing Vimsottari dasa, Narayana dasa,

Shoola dasa etc to 5 years to time events in the life of an Indian

government. It is quite logical.

 

But, when it comes to annual, monthly charts etc of the Tajaka and Tithi

Pravesha techniques, I agree with you. These charts do not show the birth of

a person or an entity. They show the continuation of an already born person

or entity during a specific period. The definition is different. Hence,

there could be different dasas that apply to them. Indeed, Patyayini dasa

works the best for Tajaka charts and Tithi Ashtottari dasa works the best

for TP charts. Applying all other dasas to these charts may be invalid as

you say. Much research is needed. But the two dasas I mentioned work very

well and have been taught by elders.

 

Only when we understand why a dasa is defined the way it is and what exactly

its formulas stand for can we claim that we completely understand the dasas

and only then can we make perfect judgments on where and when it applies.

Sadly, our knowledge is quite superficial. What may have been simple common

sense to Parasara is evidently beyond the scope of our thinking.

 

Well, the only thing we can do is to keep trying...

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

 

-

"Chandrashekhar" <boxdel

"Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr

Cc: <vedic astrology>

Thursday, May 27, 2004 3:01 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Mudda Dasha continuation of previous

mail.

 

 

> Dear Narasimha,

>

> Yes you are right. That is why I have also said that for Tajik system

> Patyayani is the right dasha. This is why I said that one should use

> Mudda and other variations on real life horoscopes and find out for

> himself if that can be used.

>

> I am not very convinced about use of Mudda dasha as it is called for the

> reason, the rationale behind using Natal chart as basis for Varshaphal

> interpretation by one system being mixed with Natal horoscopy escapes

> me. Some astrologers I know also use

> Muthahaa position as a reference of this.

>

> Parashara has given the rationale of why he gives utmost importance to

> vimshottary by saying as the 120 year period of that dasha coincides

> with maximum life span of a human being. This is another reason I do not

> think it is appropriate to use a garbled form projecting as belonging to

> Tajik system.

>

> Modern day scholars have invented many dasha systems by cannibalising

> various dasha systems and they are no doubt expert in their application.

> But Parashara has used different planetary periods and even dropped some

> planets from consideration in some Nakashatra dashas. I am certain he

> knew what he was preaching and mere compression of dashas might not be

> very correct. But I am from an earlier generation and my views could be

> at variance with views held today. I am certain you will understand me.

> Regards,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Narasimha P.V.R. Rao wrote:

>

> > Namaste friends,

> >

> > > Dear Anil,

> > > This in continuation of my earlier mail regarding Tajik.

> > > If you mean Compressed (reduced to one year) Vimshottary when you said

> > > Mudda dasha, as done by many astrologers, Then it is a Nakshatra based

> > > dasha and could be used. The problem however arises since

interpretation

> > > of Planets as friendly or inimical varies from those of Vimshottary.

One

> > > should use it in real life horoscope and find out for one self. Some

> > > astrologers also use Yogini dasha in a similar fashion.

> > > Regards,

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > Mudda dasa is a variation of Vimsottari dasa for annual charts. It is

> > not computed based on the nakshatra occupied by Moon in the annual

> > chart. Instead, it is based on the nakshatra occupied by Moon in the

> > natal chart. This nakshatra is progressed by one nakshatra eveyr year.

> > This dasa gives some results, but I was not very satisfied with it.

> >

> > In h9is book on Varshaphal, Dr. Raman taught an annual dasa that is

> > also known as Patyayini dasa. In my humble experience with Tajaka

> > varsha chakras (annual solar return charts), this dasa gives the best

> > results.

> >

> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > Narasimha

[Guest guest]

Dear Narasimha,

Perhaps, I was not lucid enough. My comment on mudda dasha has reference

to its use in Tajik. In so far as Natal horoscopy based horary

predictions are concerned, compressing Vimshottary to make its full span

identical with that of the subject under consideration (Govt. here) does

, in a way way make sense. However the question of application of

transits in such a dasha might pose a problem, since no matter what is

the life of an object, planets move according to their own speeds.

Lest there be any confusion, I am trying to relate this to one old

dictum which says for yogas to fructify, not only should the appropriate

dasha operate, but transit planets should also trine lagna or other

Satya peetha 7th house or aspect/conjoin them. This is the factor which

makes me a bit skeptical about incisive application of compressed

Vimshottary dashas. Therefore I am neither against but at the same time

not very convinced about infallibility of that system.

As you rightly said, much research needs to be done in this regards.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

 

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao wrote:

 

>Namaste Chandrashekhar ji,

>

>I agree with you on some points and beg to differ on others.

>

>Natal chart shows the birth of a person. If another entity with a dfifferent

>paramyush than 120 years is born at a time (e.g. a government), it makes

>perfect sense to compress dasas. The rules that govern a government are

>similar to those that govern a person. Simply, the paramayush is different.

>Thus, I completely support compressing Vimsottari dasa, Narayana dasa,

>Shoola dasa etc to 5 years to time events in the life of an Indian

>government. It is quite logical.

>

>But, when it comes to annual, monthly charts etc of the Tajaka and Tithi

>Pravesha techniques, I agree with you. These charts do not show the birth of

>a person or an entity. They show the continuation of an already born person

>or entity during a specific period. The definition is different. Hence,

>there could be different dasas that apply to them. Indeed, Patyayini dasa

>works the best for Tajaka charts and Tithi Ashtottari dasa works the best

>for TP charts. Applying all other dasas to these charts may be invalid as

>you say. Much research is needed. But the two dasas I mentioned work very

>well and have been taught by elders.

>

>Only when we understand why a dasa is defined the way it is and what exactly

>its formulas stand for can we claim that we completely understand the dasas

>and only then can we make perfect judgments on where and when it applies.

>Sadly, our knowledge is quite superficial. What may have been simple common

>sense to Parasara is evidently beyond the scope of our thinking.

>

>Well, the only thing we can do is to keep trying...

>

>May Jupiter's light shine on us,

>Narasimha

>

>-

>"Chandrashekhar" <boxdel

>"Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr

>Cc: <vedic astrology>

>Thursday, May 27, 2004 3:01 PM

>Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Mudda Dasha continuation of previous

>mail.

>

>

>

>

>>Dear Narasimha,

>>

>>Yes you are right. That is why I have also said that for Tajik system

>>Patyayani is the right dasha. This is why I said that one should use

>>Mudda and other variations on real life horoscopes and find out for

>>himself if that can be used.

>>

>>I am not very convinced about use of Mudda dasha as it is called for the

>>reason, the rationale behind using Natal chart as basis for Varshaphal

>>interpretation by one system being mixed with Natal horoscopy escapes

>>me. Some astrologers I know also use

>>Muthahaa position as a reference of this.

>>

>>Parashara has given the rationale of why he gives utmost importance to

>>vimshottary by saying as the 120 year period of that dasha coincides

>>with maximum life span of a human being. This is another reason I do not

>>think it is appropriate to use a garbled form projecting as belonging to

>>Tajik system.

>>

>>Modern day scholars have invented many dasha systems by cannibalising

>>various dasha systems and they are no doubt expert in their application.

>>But Parashara has used different planetary periods and even dropped some

>>planets from consideration in some Nakashatra dashas. I am certain he

>>knew what he was preaching and mere compression of dashas might not be

>>very correct. But I am from an earlier generation and my views could be

>>at variance with views held today. I am certain you will understand me.

>>Regards,

>>Chandrashekhar.

>>

>>Narasimha P.V.R. Rao wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>>>Namaste friends,

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>Dear Anil,

>>>>This in continuation of my earlier mail regarding Tajik.

>>>>If you mean Compressed (reduced to one year) Vimshottary when you said

>>>>Mudda dasha, as done by many astrologers, Then it is a Nakshatra based

>>>>dasha and could be used. The problem however arises since

>>>>

>>>>

>interpretation

>

>

>>>>of Planets as friendly or inimical varies from those of Vimshottary.

>>>>

>>>>

>One

>

>

>>>>should use it in real life horoscope and find out for one self. Some

>>>>astrologers also use Yogini dasha in a similar fashion.

>>>>Regards,

>>>>Chandrashekhar.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>Mudda dasa is a variation of Vimsottari dasa for annual charts. It is

>>>not computed based on the nakshatra occupied by Moon in the annual

>>>chart. Instead, it is based on the nakshatra occupied by Moon in the

>>>natal chart. This nakshatra is progressed by one nakshatra eveyr year.

>>>This dasa gives some results, but I was not very satisfied with it.

>>>

>>>In h9is book on Varshaphal, Dr. Raman taught an annual dasa that is

>>>also known as Patyayini dasa. In my humble experience with Tajaka

>>>varsha chakras (annual solar return charts), this dasa gives the best

>>>results.

>>>

>>>May Jupiter's light shine on us,

>>>Narasimha

>>>

>>>

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