MahaPurusha Yoga in D10

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Dear Sunil,

Some astrologers do look at the yogas in Navamsha too. Personally, I go

by Rasi to Rasi drishti and conjunctions, unless specifically mentioned

in a yoga or when one is looking at a particular D-Chart with focus on

only one area of activity.

Chandrashekhar.

Sunil John wrote:

Dear

Chandukaka & Learned Members,

 

Is

MahaPurusha Yoga applicable in Divisional charts like say for

particular D10, at one place I think I have read it is not and recently

I read it is.

 

Since you

have read classics, what is your view on this front.

I ask this

since we are on the topic of MahaPurusha Yogas.

 

Does

anyone remember any chart with Jup in Moola nak in kendra and is this

person very successful or of a popular person. If so kindly post here

or in private.

 

Kind

regards,

 

Sunil John

Mumbai

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Sunil

 

You have already got answer from Chandrashekhar ji.I will share my

views.This is only my personal opinion.

 

Kendra sthanas what we have in a natal chart is an exact prototype

of the Natural zodiac.Thus this really represent the

Vishnusthanas.Mahapurusha yoga and its relation to Vishnu is already

known.Divisions are functions within each 30 degree sign and hence

does not have kendra,trikona etc.We should understand that even

trinals are not considered for Mahapurusha yoga and such is the

significance of Kendra sthana.

 

Also we know that there is a rythm in

painting,song,dance,cooking,breathing and in OM which sustains the

universe.When there is no rythm the result is chaos.We do not add

the main cooking item to salt ,rather salt to the other.Similarly we

may use everything in the right proportion,else result will be

chaos.Divisions are part of Rashi which is a clearly known fact.

You need not accept my views but try to understand for yourself.

 

Thanks

Pradeep

 

vedic astrology, "Sunil John"

<suniljohn_2004@h...> wrote:

> Dear Chandukaka & Learned Members,

>

> Is MahaPurusha Yoga applicable in Divisional charts like say for

particular D10, at one place I think I have read it is not and

recently I read it is.

>

> Since you have read classics, what is your view on this front.

> I ask this since we are on the topic of MahaPurusha Yogas.

>

> Does anyone remember any chart with Jup in Moola nak in kendra and

is this person very successful or of a popular person. If so kindly

post here or in private.

>

> Kind regards,

>

> Sunil John

> Mumbai

[Guest guest]

Previous post from you re the Kerela Nadi query was explained by your kindself

only, so not replying to that post. Although I have more doubts in it and hence

seeking the aid of another gentleman from this list.

 

Thanks for your post re the Mahapurusha yogas in Divisionals, and the example of salt and food.

 

If Rashi was the only chart to be taken into consideration other divisional

charts wouldnt have been devised at all, so the salt and the spices are very

much necessary. The point remains for us students is to find out how much salt

and spice and their real worth.

 

The minutest divisional chart is D 144 ( dont know much about it) according to

my limited information which I presume is of the duration of 55 seconds,

whereas in Nadi amsa 24 seconds is taken into account as the minutest division

(there might be further divisions), and based on this Nadi Amsa they say the

life story of a native. So I feel the real essence might be there in the

minutest division of our chart, but this is digressing from the main topic of

using Yogas in divisional charts.

 

Ofcourse I can be wrong in all the above presumptions hence stand corrected.

Best

SJ

 

 

 

 

 

Dear SunilYou have already got answer from Chandrashekhar ji.I will share

myviews.This is only my personal opinion.Kendra sthanas what we have in a natal

chart is an exact prototypeof the Natural zodiac.Thus this really represent

theVishnusthanas.Mahapurusha yoga and its relation to Vishnu is

alreadyknown.Divisions are functions within each 30 degree sign and hencedoes

not have kendra,trikona etc.We should understand that eventrinals are not

considered for Mahapurusha yoga and such is thesignificance of Kendra

sthana.Also we know that there is a rythm

inpainting,song,dance,cooking,breathing and in OM which sustains

theuniverse.When there is no rythm the result is chaos.We do not addthe main

cooking item to salt ,rather salt to the other.Similarly wemay use everything

in the right proportion,else result will bechaos.Divisions are part of Rashi

which is a clearly known fact.You need not accept my views but

try to understand for yourself.ThanksPradeepKind regards,

 

Sunil John

Mumbai

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Hare Rama Krishna

 

Dear Sunil,

 

You might have heard about, Draupadi wanted to marry someone with all

the five 'maha purusha' qualities, and had to marry pancha pandava(5

persons), each with ONLY one unique quality.

 

Pancha mahapurusha yogas, do not find mention along with other yogas

(icluding Raja Yogas) in the BPHS. They are separately mentioned,

much later, alongwith panchabhutas.

 

Maybe, humans cannot hold all the five elements at their highest

state. This may not simply be possible!

 

So, wherever there are more than one Mahapurusha yogas we need to

assess their strength to see, which ONE will prevail,in the Rasi

chart.

 

Coming to the divisionals: the results given for MP yogas in BPHS,

speak predominantly about physical attributes. Which are mostly in

the domain of Rasi chart, but not absolutely in the domain of Rasi.

 

So, in case of Bhadra Yoga (given by Mercury), the earthy nature

could be found in the native, if found in the Rasi.

 

If found only in the Divisionals, we can take the

predominant 'element'in the said environment, into consideration and

move forward.

 

What happens, if HamsaMPY is in the Rasi, but Bhadra MPY exists in

D10? What matters to the native? The experince at the physical level

(Rasi) or the specific environment (divisionals)? Perhaps both!

 

When the planet in question is weak,then naturally its effects get

diminished.

 

Hope this makes sense.

 

Now, digressing a bit, Parasara presenteda schema, which has 16

vargas. This includes D-1,as we know. Jaimini added a few more

divsions, and spoke about seeing yogas in d3 & d9 as well.

 

We need to decide, if we want to catch the nose directly or not!

 

regards

viswanadham

 

 

 

vedic astrology, Sunil John

<jjnet2000_in> wrote:

> Hi Pradeep,

> Previous post from you re the Kerela Nadi query was explained by

your kindself only, so not replying to that post. Although I have

more doubts in it and hence seeking the aid of another gentleman from

this list.

>

> Thanks for your post re the Mahapurusha yogas in Divisionals, and

the example of salt and food.

>

> If Rashi was the only chart to be taken into consideration other

divisional charts wouldnt have been devised at all, so the salt and

the spices are very much necessary. The point remains for us students

is to find out how much salt and spice and their real worth.

>

> The minutest divisional chart is D 144 ( dont know much about it)

according to my limited information which I presume is of the

duration of 55 seconds, whereas in Nadi amsa 24 seconds is taken into

account as the minutest division (there might be further divisions),

and based on this Nadi Amsa they say the life story of a native. So I

feel the real essence might be there in the minutest division of our

chart, but this is digressing from the main topic of using Yogas in

divisional charts.

>

> Ofcourse I can be wrong in all the above presumptions hence stand

corrected.

> Best

> SJ

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your post. I am not propogating that Divisionals be looked seperately

and lets ignore the Rasi. My original query which got digressed in discussions

is "Is PanchaMahapurusha Yoga applicable in Divisionals and esp D10", a man's

qualities infleuence him in the dispensing of his karma.

 

If i am not wrong, then somewhere i have heard that D60 is given more

Vimshokapala bal than Rasi & Nav combined. Several people might be born in 2

hrs but very less in 2 mins at the same place, not all share the same future.

An aquaintance of mine , her mom and mom's sister are twins, one is just ok

looking and financially ok, the other is an ex-model and one rich socialite in

Sydney, alas I could never get their birth details to see in depth how this is

possible.

 

Pradeep u wrote"May be yourself and other learned members could help by revealing your knowledge."

SJ: I am not that knowledgeable Sir, just started studying this science

 

Thanks for your offer for links with western harmonics I shall take it up surely

at some point of time.

 

As no scholar apart from Chandukaka has given their input in this point, I would

like to close this thread from my end as it is going nowhere.

 

Sarajit has written a wonderful peice on MahaPurusha Yogas i hear, if he can

contribute it could be nice.

 

I thank everyone who has contributed to this thread, my understanding of this science has deepened.

 

best

SJ

 

P.S: I request Mr. Primus to reply to my other mail on the excellent statistical

data that he provided on Hamsa Yoga in Moola nak in charts of celebs

 

 

 

 

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Namaste Sunil,

 

In one of the very early discussions on this group on mahapurusha yoga

(between Pt. Rath and Narasimhaji), three dictums were arrived:

 

1) Only one mahapurusha yoga will fructify (strongest one, i.e.) in an

event of multiple such yogas present in a chart

 

2) Mahapurusha yoga will fructify only if the luminaries are strong.

Strength of Surya is important for initiating the yoga and that of

Chandra for sustaining the yoga.

 

3) Mahapurusha yogas do not apply to vargas (at least that is what I

remember).

 

Please refer to this brilliant discussion in the archives.

 

May Sri Vishnu bless us all,

Reema.

 

vedic astrology, Sunil John <jjnet2000_in>

wrote:

> Dear Pradeep & Vishwanatham

>

> Thanks for your post. I am not propogating that Divisionals be

looked seperately and lets ignore the Rasi. My original query which

got digressed in discussions is "Is PanchaMahapurusha Yoga applicable

in Divisionals and esp D10", a man's qualities infleuence him in the

dispensing of his karma.

>

> If i am not wrong, then somewhere i have heard that D60 is given

more Vimshokapala bal than Rasi & Nav combined. Several people might

be born in 2 hrs but very less in 2 mins at the same place, not all

share the same future.

> An aquaintance of mine , her mom and mom's sister are twins, one is

just ok looking and financially ok, the other is an ex-model and one

rich socialite in Sydney, alas I could never get their birth details

to see in depth how this is possible.

>

> Pradeep u wrote"May be yourself and other learned members could help

by revealing your knowledge."

> SJ: I am not that knowledgeable Sir, just started studying this science

>

> Thanks for your offer for links with western harmonics I shall take

it up surely at some point of time.

>

> As no scholar apart from Chandukaka has given their input in this

point, I would like to close this thread from my end as it is going

nowhere.

>

> Sarajit has written a wonderful peice on MahaPurusha Yogas i hear,

if he can contribute it could be nice.

>

> I thank everyone who has contributed to this thread, my

understanding of this science has deepened.

>

> best

> SJ

>

> P.S: I request Mr. Primus to reply to my other mail on the excellent

statistical data that he provided on Hamsa Yoga in Moola nak in charts

of celebs

>

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Dear Reema

Pranam

Thanks for ur systematic reply.

 

Do you have this email dialogue between SR & PVR, if so it would be most

appreciable to receive it from you.

 

I presume the strength of Sun and Moon need to be strong inorder for any yoga to fructify.

 

If any one has classical references wherein every yoga has a bhanga technique

attached to it and a period wherein the yoga would be non active - kindly post

it shall be most helpful.

 

Best

SJ

P.S: Thanks once again Reema Sriganesh.

 

 

Namaste Sunil,In one of the very early discussions on this group on mahapurusha

yoga(between Pt. Rath and Narasimhaji), three dictums were arrived:1) Only one

mahapurusha yoga will fructify (strongest one, i.e.) in anevent of multiple

such yogas present in a chart2) Mahapurusha yoga will fructify only if the

luminaries are strong.Strength of Surya is important for initiating the yoga

and that ofChandra for sustaining the yoga.3) Mahapurusha yogas do not apply to

vargas (at least that is what Iremember).Please refer to this brilliant

discussion in the archives.May Sri Vishnu bless us all,Reema.