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Dear Vinay,

Namaskar

The Sun is

the Paramatma, and the suffering experienced by the jeevatma depends on what

the Paramatma feeds it. It is the Paramatma which remembers our sins and

blessings, hence the importance of the Sun. This pair of the Paramatma and

Jeevatma is compared to two birds on a branch with the paramatma feeding the

jeeevatma.

Because of

this principle the reckoning of the houses from the Sun become very particular.

Yours,

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06 July 2004 21:21

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Cc: pnrazdan

RE:-Re: FW:

[vedic astrology] RE:-Re: RE:-RE(Pran and Saaji)

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12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:red">||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah||

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Dear Pran ji,

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Vistiji is respectable Guru of the SJC!!

And we should learn the correct importance and application of UL from him.

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">His hint is very true and I'm checking

with the charts of Late marriages/no marriage (very few with me).

font-family:Arial">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Regarding Ven+Rahu yuti and in dasa Rahu

is aspecting 12th H from lagna and ven is lord of 12 from lagna and Rahu (Dasa

Lord) and by natural significance of yuti this happened!!

font-family:Arial">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Now if you obeserve Rahu is Amk (amatyakarka

of chart) and Guru is AK of native. AK shows sufferings to native to purify his

soul in area concerned. Here Jup is AK hence ask him to respect elders,saints

(all who get signified by Jup) !! Jup is placed in 6th H and lord of 2,5 from

Asc. From moon 8 and 11 lord , placed in 12th and from Sun in 10th and 6

and 9th Lord!! So considering Sun as Soul, moon as mind and Asc as Physical

existance you can easily find out area of sufferings!! (This is what I've

observed Gurus pls rectify me)

font-family:Arial">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Also pls note, Now Guru is in Ar and

in kendra to Badhaka sthana and 10th lord of natal is placed in

badhaka hence by parspara karkatwa (Planets placed in 10th Principle ) can

bring sorrow to native in his dasa/antar.

font-family:Arial">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">But same time Jup is aspecting 10th,12th

and 2nd H!! So later on condition will improve. (especially in last 1/3rd part)

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Now in sat antardasa things will improve

slowly and steadily!!

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">For remedial measures Saaji has

contributed already !

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">With Regards,

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Vinay Patwardhan

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PNRazdan <pnrazdan>

 

Tue Jul 6, 2004 9:29

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Re: FW:

[vedic astrology] RE:-Re: RE:-RE(Pran and Saaji)

 

 

Dear Vinay.

You have given a fair deal of introspection to

the chart.

Your point about Rahu was constantly pricking me

and I did some more

enquiries about the jatak and found that he

actually was living with a

girl for several months sometime in 1996

proposing to marry her. But

somehow the marriage did not materialise later.

This period corresponds

to Rahu/Venus dasa of the chart.That establishes

Rahu's benevolence

being in its mooltrikona. But like everything

else given by Rahu in its

dasa, this too did not last long.

Mr Larsen has a different opinion. What do you

think of it, I have not

used UP.analysis much and therefore cant say

anything.

Pran

--- Visti Larsen <visti@s...>

wrote:

> |Hare Räma Kåñëa|

>

> Dear Vinay, Namaskar

>

> Why not just look at the chart to

understand that? If the Upapada and

> its

> lord are strong, then you get married to

that potential spouse. If

> it’s weak

> then the marriage does not happen.

>

> In this chart Bädhakeña-Moon is in the 7th

house, that’s why he is

> yet to

> marry. Now if you see the Upapada lord its

strong in Aquarius, but

> retrograde – pravrajya yoga, hence

the partner constantly changes her

> mind,

> or runs away from the idea of

marriage… but first he has to find the

> partner.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

> <visti@s...>

visti@s...

>

_____

>

> patwardhanvinay [patwardhanvinay@h...]

> 06 July 2004 14:39

> vedic astrology

> Cc: saajik

> [vedic astrology] RE:-Re:

RE:-RE(Pran and Saaji)

>

>

>

> ||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah||

>

>

>

> Dear Saaji,

>

>

>

> If u remember we have some discussion

before on marriage!!

>

> Along with customs and traditions I think

if two have mental ,

> physical

> relations about a year then it's consider

as an marriage from

> Mahabharta

> age!! Hence only I suggest in my previous

mail to shift UL to 8th

> from

> there!! It's written in 3rd para!! So we

are sailing in same

> direction!! :-)

>

>

>

> Regarding marriage as per dharma and for

dharma I ref D9!! If I rem

> correctly, for those marriage is just for

lower desires and not for

> dharma

> we have to stick to rasi !! But when

traditional marriage and role of

> dharma

> is to be played we should go to navmasa. Am

I correct? Hence only I

> ask why

> Rahu has not given such marriage and i

think this was native's

> intellect

> which neglect the marriage!! I think I 'd

written on that also!

>

>

>

> OK BigB!!

>

>

>

> Any way waiting for results of an

interview!! :-)

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

>

>

> Vinay

>

>

>

>

============================================================================

> ==================================

>

> OH Your discussion is shifted to 4th house

and Jup Dasa!!

>

>

>

> Now regarding House if we look into D4 we

see Jup is debilitated ,

> placed in

> 3rd H and lord of 2,5H

>

> 3rd is 12th H to 4th and Jup is marak

sthanadhipati (5th L) also to

> 3th in

> D4 and Sani is in 7th H (4th L also)with

moon again exalted and 9th

> L!

>

> I this points may also help!!

>

>

>

> One more question to Sri Pran ,

>

>

>

> In Rahu dasa, home was provided by the

company!! OR was it on

> ownership?

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

>

>

> Vinay

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> "saaji kulangara"

<saajik

>

<vedic astrology/post?postID=yLAJNiqyI0HJNz78v

>

scl3XYel5krK-968UR12fQuAQmuUhfrMyrPSc5prYQEigiT9nytc7Lz> >

> Tue Jul 6, 2004 3:31 pm

> Re: RE:-RE(Pran and Saaji)

>

>

>

>

>

> Om

Subrahmanyaya Namah

>

> Dear Sri Pran,

>

> Should we blame Rahu or Jupiter for this

situation? I think Jupiter

> is the problem here. Jupiter occupies

benefic shadvargas, but is in a

> Rasi Sandhi, debilitated in Dasamsa and

being 2nd L and Dhanakaraka

> he occupies the 6th(debts, diseases)

aspected by Sani from 4th.(Shiva

> Sahasranaamam could have helped) From Moon

he's in the 12th as 11th

> L. So the problem has been Dasa sandhi

coupled with sadesati. (Evenif

> this happended in Rahu Dasa end, we may say

that this is because of

> the problems he had to bear in Ju AD).

>

> Sani AD may be helpful in marriage and even

though you clarified the

> points, I couldn't reconcile this :- )

Ofcourse predictions going

> wrong do not affect me, but in this matter,

till I learn more I'll

> stand by what all I've written, atleast in

a bit different context!

>

> Native's Sani AD will be good. He's a YK

from Moon, and also occupies

> a kendra from Lagna/Moon and 11th from

Jupiter. So the AD may help

> him recover from the situation he's in.

Thereafter Me AD should be

> even more better. Since an exalted 9th Lord

Moon occupies the 7th,

> and the 7th lord from Moon, Mars occupies

the 2nd, the native can

> gain through marriage also.

>

> Maharshi Parasara, whose words are beyond

question, says recitation

> of Shiva Sahasranaamam can reduce the evils

in Ju AD.

>

> Best Wishes,

>

> Saaji

>

>

> vedic astrology

>

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>

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> vc> , PNRazdan <pnrazdan>

> wrote:

> > I am thnakful to friends Saaji, Vinay

and Sanjeev for their efforts

> to

> > study the horoscope of the Jatak I had

posted on the site. The

> > unanimous assessment of everybody

seems to be that the coming Sat

> AD in

> > Jup MD should bring in the marriage.

> > Let me tell you something more about

the Jatak. An extremely

> brilliant

> > computer engineer, he is in USA for the

last 14 years and has seen

> the

> > best of his time in his life, career

etc in the Rahu dasa. But once

> the

> > dasa was over, it took away

everything-quite expected of this

> planet.

> > So the question raised by Anil is

really pertinent as to why the

> > marriage didnot comeup in this dasa

when everything else did come.

> And

> > this question has been raised earlier

too.

> > Presently the jatak is almost

houseless and penniless.And also

> having

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Respected Vistiji,

 

Pranam. Your post is explaining too many things for me.

What about moon and asc? If these are invalid points pls clear them.

(I'm asking this question just because we do consider the relation of Lagnamsa and Karkamsa !!)

 

Many thanks for the Post!!

 

Regards,

 

Vinay Patwardhan

-

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'patwardhanvinay'

Cc: vedic astrology

Wednesday, July 07, 2004 1:26 AM

RE: -Re: FW: [vedic astrology] RE:-Re: RE:-RE(Pran and Saaji)

|Hare Räma Kåñëa|

Dear Vinay, Namaskar

The Sun is the Paramatma, and the suffering experienced by the jeevatma depends

on what the Paramatma feeds it. It is the Paramatma which remembers our sins

and blessings, hence the importance of the Sun. This pair of the Paramatma and

Jeevatma is compared to two birds on a branch with the paramatma feeding the

jeeevatma.

Because of this principle the reckoning of the houses from the Sun become very particular.

Yours,

Visti Larsenvisti (AT) (DOT) org

 

 

 

patwardhanvinay [patwardhanvinay (AT) hotmail (DOT) com] 06 July 2004

21:21vedic astrologyCc: pnrazdan Subject: RE:-Re:

FW: [vedic astrology] RE:-Re: RE:-RE(Pran and Saaji)

 

||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah||

 

Dear Pran ji,

 

Vistiji is respectable Guru of the SJC!! And we should learn the correct

importance and application of UL from him.

His hint is very true and I'm checking with the charts of Late marriages/no

marriage (very few with me).

 

Regarding Ven+Rahu yuti and in dasa Rahu is aspecting 12th H from lagna and ven

is lord of 12 from lagna and Rahu (Dasa Lord) and by natural significance of

yuti this happened!!

 

Now if you obeserve Rahu is Amk (amatyakarka of chart) and Guru is AK of native.

AK shows sufferings to native to purify his soul in area concerned. Here Jup is

AK hence ask him to respect elders,saints (all who get signified by Jup) !! Jup

is placed in 6th H and lord of 2,5 from Asc. From moon 8 and 11 lord , placed in

12th and from Sun in 10th and 6 and 9th Lord!! So considering Sun as Soul, moon

as mind and Asc as Physical existance you can easily find out area of

sufferings!! (This is what I've observed Gurus pls rectify me)

 

Also pls note, Now Guru is in Ar and in kendra to Badhaka sthana and 10th lord

of natal is placed in badhaka hence by parspara karkatwa (Planets placed in

10th Principle ) can bring sorrow to native in his dasa/antar.

 

But same time Jup is aspecting 10th,12th and 2nd H!! So later on condition will

improve. (especially in last 1/3rd part)

Now in sat antardasa things will improve slowly and steadily!!

 

For remedial measures Saaji has contributed already !

 

With Regards,

 

Vinay Patwardhan

 

 

PNRazdan <pnrazdan> Tue Jul 6, 2004 9:29 pm Re:

FW: [vedic astrology] RE:-Re: RE:-RE(Pran and Saaji)

 

 

Dear Vinay.You have given a fair deal of introspection to the chart.Your point

about Rahu was constantly pricking me and I did some moreenquiries about the

jatak and found that he actually was living with agirl for several months

sometime in 1996 proposing to marry her. Butsomehow the marriage did not

materialise later. This period correspondsto Rahu/Venus dasa of the chart.That

establishes Rahu's benevolencebeing in its mooltrikona. But like everything

else given by Rahu in itsdasa, this too did not last long.Mr Larsen has a

different opinion. What do you think of it, I have notused UP.analysis much and

therefore cant say anything.Pran--- Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:> |Hare Räma

Kåñëa|>> Dear Vinay, Namaskar>> Why not just look at the chart to understand

that? If the Upapada and> its> lord are strong, then you get married to that

potential spouse. If> it’s weak> then the marriage does not happen.>> In

this chart Bädhakeña-Moon is in the 7th house, that’s why he is> yet to>

marry. Now if you see the Upapada lord its strong in Aquarius, but> retrograde

– pravrajya yoga, hence the partner constantly changes her> mind,> or

runs away from the idea of marriage… but first he has to find the>

partner.>> Best wishes,>>>>>> Visti Larsen> <visti@s...>

visti@s...>>>>>>>> _____>> patwardhanvinay [patwardhanvinay@h...]>

06 July 2004 14:39> vedic astrology> Cc: saajik>

[vedic astrology] RE:-Re: RE:-RE(Pran and Saaji)>>>> ||Shri

GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah||>>>> Dear Saaji,>>>> If u remember we have some

discussion before on marriage!!>> Along with customs and traditions I think if

two have mental ,> physical> relations about a year then it's consider as an

marriage from> Mahabharta> age!! Hence only I suggest in my previous mail to

shift UL to 8th> from> there!! It's written in 3rd para!! So we are sailing in

same> direction!! :-)>>>> Regarding marriage as per dharma and for dharma I ref

D9!! If I rem> correctly, for those marriage is just for lower desires and not

for> dharma> we have to stick to rasi !! But when traditional marriage and role

of> dharma> is to be played we should go to navmasa. Am I correct? Hence only I>

ask why> Rahu has not given such marriage and i think this was native's>

intellect> which neglect the marriage!! I think I 'd written on that also!>>>>

OK BigB!!>>>> Any way waiting for results of an interview!! :-)>>>>

Regards,>>>>

Vinay>>>>============================================================================>

==================================>> OH Your discussion is shifted to 4th house

and Jup Dasa!!>>>> Now regarding House if we look into D4 we see Jup is

debilitated ,> placed in> 3rd H and lord of 2,5H>> 3rd is 12th H to 4th and Jup

is marak sthanadhipati (5th L) also to> 3th in> D4 and Sani is in 7th H (4th L

also)with moon again exalted and 9th> L!>> I this points may also help!!>>>>

One more question to Sri Pran ,>>>> In Rahu dasa, home was provided by the

company!! OR was it on> ownership?>>>> Regards,>>>> Vinay>>>> _____>>>

"saaji kulangara"

<saajik><vedic astrology/post?postID=yLAJNiqyI0HJNz78v>

scl3XYel5krK-968UR12fQuAQmuUhfrMyrPSc5prYQEigiT9nytc7Lz> >> Tue Jul 6,

2004 3:31 pm> Re: RE:-RE(Pran and Saaji)>>>>>> Om Subrahmanyaya

Namah>> Dear Sri Pran,>> Should we blame Rahu or Jupiter for this situation? I

think Jupiter> is the problem here. Jupiter occupies benefic shadvargas, but is

in a> Rasi Sandhi, debilitated in Dasamsa and being 2nd L and Dhanakaraka> he

occupies the 6th(debts, diseases) aspected by Sani from 4th.(Shiva>

Sahasranaamam could have helped) From Moon he's in the 12th as 11th> L. So the

problem has been Dasa sandhi coupled with sadesati. (Evenif> this happended in

Rahu Dasa end, we may say that this is because of> the problems he had to bear

in Ju AD).>> Sani AD may be helpful in marriage and even though you clarified

the> points, I couldn't reconcile this :- ) Ofcourse predictions going> wrong

do not affect me, but in this matter, till I learn more I'll> stand by what all

I've written, atleast in a bit different context!>> Native's Sani AD will be

good. He's a YK from Moon, and also occupies> a kendra from Lagna/Moon and 11th

from Jupiter. So the AD may help> him recover from the situation he's in.

Thereafter Me AD should be> even more better. Since an exalted 9th Lord Moon

occupies the 7th,> and the 7th lord from Moon, Mars occupies the 2nd, the

native can> gain through marriage also.>> Maharshi Parasara, whose words are

beyond question, says recitation> of Shiva Sahasranaamam can reduce the evils

in Ju AD.>> Best Wishes,>> Saaji>>> --- In

vedic astrology><vedic astrology/post?postID=oMzrAxZfaskYurhEu>L4KmY0TI9KEBtcy7yDE3KERi_JsqwV2B04qKp8LmBU89bJIsi6Dll7qsgY6HM6BrbuUvvV0L8yeL>

vc> , PNRazdan <pnrazdan>> wrote:> > I am thnakful to friends Saaji, Vinay

and Sanjeev for their efforts> to> > study the horoscope of the Jatak I had

posted on the site. The> > unanimous assessment of everybody seems to be that

the coming Sat> AD in> > Jup MD should bring in the marriage.> > Let me tell

you something more about the Jatak. An extremely> brilliant> > computer

engineer, he is in USA for the last 14 years and has seen> the> > best of his

time in his life, career etc in the Rahu dasa. But once> the> > dasa was over,

it took away everything-quite expected of this> planet.> > So the question

raised by Anil is really pertinent as to why the> > marriage didnot comeup in

this dasa when everything else did come.> And> > this question has been raised

earlier too.> > Presently the jatak is almost houseless and penniless.And also>

having

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Dear Vinay,

Namaskar

The relationship

between Lagnamsa and Karakamsa indicates the desire the jeevatma (ak) has for

this birth (lagna).

The Moon is

the Mana, and this is usually determined by society. I.e. are you living upto

the standards and expectations of society, and based on this we experience joy

and/or suffering. Here the houses are to be reckoned on the basis of Yogas

involving the Moon, i.e. Sakata, Gajakesari, Chandradi, Sunapha, Anapha, etc.

Similarly

Yogas for the Sun are there, and on this basis one should understand the

placements for the Sun.

Example: If

you read the results of planets in 2nd from the Sun they tend to be very

inauspicious compared to the 12th from the Sun. This is because the

sun is giving you those blessings based on the planets in the 12th from

Sun.

Similarly

that karma you must do is not seen from the 10th from Sun, but from

the 4th from Sun. The Dharma you must uphold and protect is seen

from the 5th from Sun instead of the 9th from Sun.

These are the

few tidbits I know about the use of Sun and Moon in chart interpretation.

Yours,

bold">Visti Larsen

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visti (AT) (DOT) org

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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">patwardhanvinay

[patwardhanvinay (AT) hotmail (DOT) com]

07 July 2004 06:44

Visti Larsen

Cc:

vedic astrology

Re: -Re: FW:

[vedic astrology] RE:-Re: RE:-RE(Pran and Saaji)

12.0pt">

12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:red">||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah||

font-family:Arial">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Respected Vistiji,

12.0pt">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Pranam. Your post is explaining too many

things for me.

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">What about moon and asc? If these are

invalid points pls clear them.

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">(I'm asking this question just because we

do consider the relation of Lagnamsa and Karkamsa !!)

12.0pt">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Many thanks for the Post!!

12.0pt">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Regards,

12.0pt">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Vinay Patwardhan

margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt">

font-family:Arial">-

Visti

Larsen

font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold">'patwardhanvinay'

font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold">Cc: vedic astrology

font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold">Wednesday, July 07, 2004 1:26 AM

font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold">RE: -Re: FW:

[vedic astrology] RE:-Re: RE:-RE(Pran and Saaji)

12.0pt">

|Hare Räma

Kåñëa|

Dear Vinay,

Namaskar

The Sun is

the Paramatma, and the suffering experienced by the jeevatma depends on what

the Paramatma feeds it. It is the Paramatma which remembers our sins and

blessings, hence the importance of the Sun. This pair of the Paramatma and

Jeevatma is compared to two birds on a branch with the paramatma feeding the

jeeevatma.

Because of

this principle the reckoning of the houses from the Sun become very particular.

Yours,

bold">Visti Larsen

color:#4E81C4">

visti (AT) (DOT) org

font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4">

padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm">

 

 

 

font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">patwardhanvinay

[patwardhanvinay (AT) hotmail (DOT) com]

06 July 2004 21:21

To:

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Cc: pnrazdan

RE:-Re: FW:

[vedic astrology] RE:-Re: RE:-RE(Pran and Saaji)

12.0pt">

12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:red">||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah||

font-family:Arial">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Dear Pran ji,

font-family:Arial">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Vistiji is respectable Guru of the SJC!!

And we should learn the correct importance and application of UL from him.

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">His hint is very true and I'm checking

with the charts of Late marriages/no marriage (very few with me).

font-family:Arial">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Regarding Ven+Rahu yuti and in dasa Rahu

is aspecting 12th H from lagna and ven is lord of 12 from lagna and Rahu (Dasa

Lord) and by natural significance of yuti this happened!!

font-family:Arial">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Now if you obeserve Rahu is Amk

(amatyakarka of chart) and Guru is AK of native. AK shows sufferings to native

to purify his soul in area concerned. Here Jup is AK hence ask him to respect

elders,saints (all who get signified by Jup) !! Jup is placed in 6th H and lord

of 2,5 from Asc. From moon 8 and 11 lord , placed in 12th and from Sun in

10th and 6 and 9th Lord!! So considering Sun as Soul, moon as mind and Asc as

Physical existance you can easily find out area of sufferings!! (This is what

I've observed Gurus pls rectify me)

font-family:Arial">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Also pls note, Now Guru is in Ar and

in kendra to Badhaka sthana and 10th lord of natal is placed in

badhaka hence by parspara karkatwa (Planets placed in 10th Principle ) can

bring sorrow to native in his dasa/antar.

font-family:Arial">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">But same time Jup is aspecting 10th,12th

and 2nd H!! So later on condition will improve. (especially in last 1/3rd part)

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Now in sat antardasa things will improve

slowly and steadily!!

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">For remedial measures Saaji has

contributed already !

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">With Regards,

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Vinay Patwardhan

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PNRazdan <pnrazdan>

 

Tue Jul 6, 2004 9:29

pm

Re: FW:

[vedic astrology] RE:-Re: RE:-RE(Pran and Saaji)

 

 

Dear Vinay.

You have given a fair deal of introspection to

the chart.

Your point about Rahu was constantly pricking me

and I did some more

enquiries about the jatak and found that he

actually was living with a

girl for several months sometime in 1996

proposing to marry her. But

somehow the marriage did not materialise later.

This period corresponds

to Rahu/Venus dasa of the chart.That establishes

Rahu's benevolence

being in its mooltrikona. But like everything

else given by Rahu in its

dasa, this too did not last long.

Mr Larsen has a different opinion. What do you

think of it, I have not

used UP.analysis much and therefore cant say

anything.

Pran

--- Visti Larsen <visti@s...>

wrote:

> |Hare Räma Kåñëa|

>

> Dear Vinay, Namaskar

>

> Why not just look at the chart to

understand that? If the Upapada and

> its

> lord are strong, then you get married to

that potential spouse. If

> it’s weak

> then the marriage does not happen.

>

> In this chart Bädhakeña-Moon is in the 7th

house, that’s why he is

> yet to

> marry. Now if you see the Upapada lord its

strong in Aquarius, but

> retrograde – pravrajya yoga, hence

the partner constantly changes her

> mind,

> or runs away from the idea of

marriage… but first he has to find the

> partner.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

> <visti@s...>

visti@s...

>

_____

>

> patwardhanvinay [patwardhanvinay@h...]

> 06 July 2004 14:39

> vedic astrology

> Cc: saajik

> [vedic astrology] RE:-Re:

RE:-RE(Pran and Saaji)

>

>

>

> ||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah||

>

>

>

> Dear Saaji,

>

>

>

> If u remember we have some discussion

before on marriage!!

>

> Along with customs and traditions I think

if two have mental ,

> physical

> relations about a year then it's consider as

an marriage from

> Mahabharta

> age!! Hence only I suggest in my previous

mail to shift UL to 8th

> from

> there!! It's written in 3rd para!! So we

are sailing in same

> direction!! :-)

>

>

>

> Regarding marriage as per dharma and for

dharma I ref D9!! If I rem

> correctly, for those marriage is just for

lower desires and not for

> dharma

> we have to stick to rasi !! But when

traditional marriage and role of

> dharma

> is to be played we should go to navmasa. Am

I correct? Hence only I

> ask why

> Rahu has not given such marriage and i

think this was native's

> intellect

> which neglect the marriage!! I think I 'd

written on that also!

>

>

>

> OK BigB!!

>

>

>

> Any way waiting for results of an

interview!! :-)

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

>

>

> Vinay

>

>

>

>

============================================================================

> ==================================

>

> OH Your discussion is shifted to 4th house

and Jup Dasa!!

>

>

>

> Now regarding House if we look into D4 we

see Jup is debilitated ,

> placed in

> 3rd H and lord of 2,5H

>

> 3rd is 12th H to 4th and Jup is marak

sthanadhipati (5th L) also to

> 3th in

> D4 and Sani is in 7th H (4th L also)with

moon again exalted and 9th

> L!

>

> I this points may also help!!

>

>

>

> One more question to Sri Pran ,

>

>

>

> In Rahu dasa, home was provided by the

company!! OR was it on

> ownership?

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

>

>

> Vinay

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> "saaji kulangara"

<saajik

>

<vedic astrology/post?postID=yLAJNiqyI0HJNz78v

>

scl3XYel5krK-968UR12fQuAQmuUhfrMyrPSc5prYQEigiT9nytc7Lz> >

> Tue Jul 6, 2004 3:31 pm

> Re: RE:-RE(Pran and Saaji)

>

>

>

>

>

> Om

Subrahmanyaya Namah

>

> Dear Sri Pran,

>

> Should we blame Rahu or Jupiter for this

situation? I think Jupiter

> is the problem here. Jupiter occupies

benefic shadvargas, but is in a

> Rasi Sandhi, debilitated in Dasamsa and

being 2nd L and Dhanakaraka

> he occupies the 6th(debts, diseases)

aspected by Sani from 4th.(Shiva

> Sahasranaamam could have helped) From Moon

he's in the 12th as 11th

> L. So the problem has been Dasa sandhi

coupled with sadesati. (Evenif

> this happended in Rahu Dasa end, we may say

that this is because of

> the problems he had to bear in Ju AD).

>

> Sani AD may be helpful in marriage and even

though you clarified the

> points, I couldn't reconcile this :- )

Ofcourse predictions going

> wrong do not affect me, but in this matter,

till I learn more I'll

> stand by what all I've written, atleast in

a bit different context!

>

> Native's Sani AD will be good. He's a YK

from Moon, and also occupies

> a kendra from Lagna/Moon and 11th from

Jupiter. So the AD may help

> him recover from the situation he's in.

Thereafter Me AD should be

> even more better. Since an exalted 9th Lord

Moon occupies the 7th,

> and the 7th lord from Moon, Mars occupies

the 2nd, the native can

> gain through marriage also.

>

> Maharshi Parasara, whose words are beyond

question, says recitation

> of Shiva Sahasranaamam can reduce the evils

in Ju AD.

>

> Best Wishes,

>

> Saaji

>

>

> vedic astrology

>

<vedic astrology/post?postID=oMzrAxZfaskYurhEu

>

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> vc> , PNRazdan <pnrazdan>

> wrote:

> > I am thnakful to friends Saaji, Vinay

and Sanjeev for their efforts

> to

> > study the horoscope of the Jatak I had

posted on the site. The

> > unanimous assessment of everybody

seems to be that the coming Sat

> AD in

> > Jup MD should bring in the marriage.

> > Let me tell you something more about

the Jatak. An extremely

> brilliant

> > computer engineer, he is in USA

for the last 14 years and has seen

> the

> > best of his time in his life, career

etc in the Rahu dasa. But once

> the

> > dasa was over, it took away

everything-quite expected of this

> planet.

> > So the question raised by Anil is

really pertinent as to why the

> > marriage didnot comeup in this dasa

when everything else did come.

> And

> > this question has been raised earlier

too.

> > Presently the jatak is almost

houseless and penniless.And also

> having

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