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Tapaswi Yoga is formed when Ve, Sa and Ke are in mutal konas/trines. In this

case that is not so. I've also heard that tapaswi yoga is formed when ve/ke and

sat have rasi dristi on each other. As far as this chart is concerned i am not

sure if graha dristi causes tapaswi yoga. One can also look into the naskhatras

and you'll see Ve is placed in Ketus nakshatra and Ke is in Venus's Nakshatra,

perhaps this could signify a pious tapaswi.Maybe one of the gurus can enlighten

us.

 

The native also has sarpa yoga. The native should wear a yellow sapphire to

strengthen Jupiter as it will help pacify the sarpa yoga to some extent. To

look at marriage, look at the 7th house(capricorn), it's lord(saturn), venus

the significator for marriage and jupiter the significator for husband, UL, the

second from UL, the lord of UL. Do this both in Rasi and Navamsa.

 

The 7th lord Saturn is placed in it's marana-karaka sthana. However, Saturn

being the 7th lord is also combined with Mars (yogakaraka) and the ascendent,

this is a raja-yoga. In navamsa, Saturn is placed in Leo with maraka Jupiter.

Saturn is placed in Dhandayudha (a malefic shahstyamsa). This could indicate

some form of delay or unhappiness in marriage. Jupiter is in another malefic

shashtyamsa of Ghora. Ve is in marana-karaka-sthana in Navamsa - not good for

marriage. UL is Aries with Ju, Ke, Su and Ve in there. This will definitely

make UL stronger. the second from UL has Mercury. It shows a quick thinking

playful person as a spouse, perhaps? Also since the 2nd lord from UL is venus

and is associated with the Sun who is exalted in aries, it will indicate a very

good spouse.

 

Regards,

 

- Jai

 

Pradeep Kumar <vijayadas_pradeep > wrote:

Dear & Respected all

 

I am posting the chart of a lady with cancer lagna.Saturn and debilitated Mars

are in the ascendant.10th house has 4 planets - exalted Sun(AK),Venus,Jupiter

and Ketu.Saturn is aspecting 10th.Is this a clear case of Tapaswi Yoga?What can

be the profession?

I would be intersted to know what can be understood regarding marriage from this

chart.I can post the related incidents later.

details May 8 1976, 12.3076 E 38, 8 N 54

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Dear Jai ji

 

May be there are many explanations for Tapaswi yoga.I believe what

you have mentioned is one among those.I am not sure.Kindly correct me.

I have read from Jaimini sutras that Ketu in karakamsha with

saturnian influence will make on a Tapaswi.I was trying to understand

the reasons behind Ketu and Saturn.

Ketu is moksha karaka , hence ketu in significant houses(moksha

trikona?) may make one single minded towards liberation.Liberation is

nothing but liberation of everything, excluding that, what you are

pursuing for.Thus what remains is concentration towards your goal.

Saturn is a worker who can withstand difficulties and

obstacles.People with Jupiterian influnece are good in giving wise

(broad) advises but not in performing at finer levels.Venusian

influenced ones can attach themselves closely to any task with high

interest.Thus Venus also has a role here better than jupiter.But may

be mercury and jupiter will aid the tapaswi.And I have also read from

a web article of Narasimha ji that atmakaraka invlovement in Tapaswi

yogas make it stronger.

 

Thus could you or other learned members help me to understand

Tapaswi.Should we have strict definitions for Tapaswi?I believe if

the above said planets are influencing each other significantly a

Tapas may arise.The degree of intenisity may vary.Thanks for

observing the parivartana of nakshatras(Venus ,Ketu).

In this case Venus ,Ketu, Atmakaraka sun & 9th lord jupiter are

together in Karma sthana.This is being aspected by Saturn(but a

maraka).Thus I am not aware of the strength.Learned members may help.

 

During Sun dasha the individual(please read my mail to Vinay ji) got

a job as teacher in a school.She is applying herself there.(this job

was not taken for monetary benefits alone).

 

Sarpa Yoga ? By virtue of malefics occuppying quadrants?What is the

remedy.I will advise to wear yellow saphire to appease Jupiter.Thanks.

It was interesting to note the placements of Saturn in divisionals as

you have mentioned.Read in the other mail regarding the marriage

related mishaps.

 

How are the indications regarding children?

The native will be running Moon dasha next.Moon ascendant lord is in

2nd aspected by 9th lord jupiter.Ninth house lord is in 10th.I

believe for ladies we have to concentrate on 9th house for

children.Thus can moon dasha be good for this?

 

Thanks a lot for your analysis.

 

Pradeep

 

vedic astrology, jaidev balagopal

<jbalagop> wrote:

> Dear Pradeep -

>

> Tapaswi Yoga is formed when Ve, Sa and Ke are in mutal

konas/trines. In this case that is not so. I've also heard that

tapaswi yoga is formed when ve/ke and sat have rasi dristi on each

other. As far as this chart is concerned i am not sure if graha

dristi causes tapaswi yoga. One can also look into the naskhatras and

you'll see Ve is placed in Ketus nakshatra and Ke is in Venus's

Nakshatra, perhaps this could signify a pious tapaswi.Maybe one of

the gurus can enlighten us.

>

> The native also has sarpa yoga. The native should wear a yellow

sapphire to strengthen Jupiter as it will help pacify the sarpa yoga

to some extent. To look at marriage, look at the 7th house

(capricorn), it's lord(saturn), venus the significator for marriage

and jupiter the significator for husband, UL, the second from UL, the

lord of UL. Do this both in Rasi and Navamsa.

>

> The 7th lord Saturn is placed in it's marana-karaka sthana.

However, Saturn being the 7th lord is also combined with Mars

(yogakaraka) and the ascendent, this is a raja-yoga. In navamsa,

Saturn is placed in Leo with maraka Jupiter. Saturn is placed in

Dhandayudha (a malefic shahstyamsa). This could indicate some form of

delay or unhappiness in marriage. Jupiter is in another malefic

shashtyamsa of Ghora. Ve is in marana-karaka-sthana in Navamsa - not

good for marriage. UL is Aries with Ju, Ke, Su and Ve in there. This

will definitely make UL stronger. the second from UL has Mercury. It

shows a quick thinking playful person as a spouse, perhaps? Also

since the 2nd lord from UL is venus and is associated with the Sun

who is exalted in aries, it will indicate a very good spouse.

>

> Regards,

>

> - Jai

>

>

>

> Pradeep Kumar <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> Dear & Respected all

>

> I am posting the chart of a lady with cancer lagna.Saturn and

debilitated Mars are in the ascendant.

> 10th house has 4 planets - exalted Sun(AK),Venus,Jupiter and

Ketu.Saturn is aspecting 10th.Is this a clear case of Tapaswi Yoga?

What can be the profession?

> I would be intersted to know what can be understood regarding

marriage from this chart.

> I can post the related incidents later.

> details May 8 1976, 12.30

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Dear Pradeep-ji,

 

I defer the Tapaswi yoga question to one of our honorable gurujis.

However, just some passing comments - It is said that Venus's passion

can only be controlled by Ketu and Saturn. A true ascetic/tapaswi has to

have control over their passions, which is why it is important for Venus

to be involved in the yoga with Ketu and Saturn. This will show the

emergence of a true Tapaswi. Infact if Venus is not under the control of

Ketu and Saturn, at the most they may externally act like a tapaswi.

Also, like you mentioned the association with the AK will further

strengthen the combination. Also, if indications exist in navamsa, it's

even stronger.

 

As for the Sarpa Yoga, it is caused whenever there are 3 natural

malefics occupying the kendras. In this case all the malefics occupy the

kendras, hence the yoga is strong. Good thing is that this occurs in a

movable sign and also Jupiter and Venus is conjoined to break the yoga.

 

As for children, the 5th house indicates children both for men and

women. However, In the Saptamsa (D-7), one would take the 9th house and

it's lord as the controlling house/planet to find out about children in

women (and 5th house and lord) in the case of a man. In rasi the 5th

house is aspected by the 3rd and 12th lord mercury (slightly malefic)

and by the 8th lord Rahu (his 12th aspect in reverse direction) (malefic

as well). The 5th lord is debilitated both in navamsa and rasi. In D-7

the 5th lord (Mars) is placed in the 8th with Saturn and the ascendant

lord. However there is a vipreeta raja yoga. The 9th house lord Saturn

is in the 8th (the co-lord is rahu, however Saturn is the stronger of

the two). This is not a good indication as far as children are

concerned. Please ask Ramadas-ji or any of the other gurus for a good

remedy.

 

Thanks,

 

- Jai

 

 

 

vijayadas_pradeep [vijayadas_pradeep]

Friday, June 04, 2004 10:37 AM

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology] Re: Cancer Lagna with Saturn and Mars

 

Dear Jai ji

 

May be there are many explanations for Tapaswi yoga.I believe what

you have mentioned is one among those.I am not sure.Kindly correct me.

I have read from Jaimini sutras that Ketu in karakamsha with

saturnian influence will make on a Tapaswi.I was trying to understand

the reasons behind Ketu and Saturn.

Ketu is moksha karaka , hence ketu in significant houses(moksha

trikona?) may make one single minded towards liberation.Liberation is

nothing but liberation of everything, excluding that, what you are

pursuing for.Thus what remains is concentration towards your goal.

Saturn is a worker who can withstand difficulties and

obstacles.People with Jupiterian influnece are good in giving wise

(broad) advises but not in performing at finer levels.Venusian

influenced ones can attach themselves closely to any task with high

interest.Thus Venus also has a role here better than jupiter.But may

be mercury and jupiter will aid the tapaswi.And I have also read from

a web article of Narasimha ji that atmakaraka invlovement in Tapaswi

yogas make it stronger.

 

Thus could you or other learned members help me to understand

Tapaswi.Should we have strict definitions for Tapaswi?I believe if

the above said planets are influencing each other significantly a

Tapas may arise.The degree of intenisity may vary.Thanks for

observing the parivartana of nakshatras(Venus ,Ketu).

In this case Venus ,Ketu, Atmakaraka sun & 9th lord jupiter are

together in Karma sthana.This is being aspected by Saturn(but a

maraka).Thus I am not aware of the strength.Learned members may help.

 

During Sun dasha the individual(please read my mail to Vinay ji) got

a job as teacher in a school.She is applying herself there.(this job

was not taken for monetary benefits alone).

 

Sarpa Yoga ? By virtue of malefics occuppying quadrants?What is the

remedy.I will advise to wear yellow saphire to appease Jupiter.Thanks.

It was interesting to note the placements of Saturn in divisionals as

you have mentioned.Read in the other mail regarding the marriage

related mishaps.

 

How are the indications regarding children?

The native will be running Moon dasha next.Moon ascendant lord is in

2nd aspected by 9th lord jupiter.Ninth house lord is in 10th.I

believe for ladies we have to concentrate on 9th house for

children.Thus can moon dasha be good for this?

 

Thanks a lot for your analysis.

 

Pradeep

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Dear Balagopal ji

 

Passion of Venus needs to be controlled.You are right.

But passion is also needed for intimate involvement in any task you

do:-) Thus it is a viscious circle.

 

Thanks for the Sarpa yoga and movable rashi clues.

One experinced astrologer (senior citizen) whom i had met couple of

months back in my hometown, told me that 9th house in rashi is more

important for ladies, regarding children.Thus my comment.Thanks for

Saptamsha clues. May be learned members could verify this 9th house

rule in rashi.

 

Thanks for your analysis and time.

 

Dear Ramadas ji

 

Could you kindly check the chart given by me and study the

indications regarding marriage and children.If you need i can sent

the details again.

 

Respect

Pradeep

 

vedic astrology, "jaidev balagopal"

<jbalagop> wrote:

> Dear Pradeep-ji,

>

> I defer the Tapaswi yoga question to one of our honorable gurujis.

> However, just some passing comments - It is said that Venus's

passion

> can only be controlled by Ketu and Saturn. A true ascetic/tapaswi

has to

> have control over their passions, which is why it is important for

Venus

> to be involved in the yoga with Ketu and Saturn. This will show the

> emergence of a true Tapaswi. Infact if Venus is not under the

control of

> Ketu and Saturn, at the most they may externally act like a tapaswi.

> Also, like you mentioned the association with the AK will further

> strengthen the combination. Also, if indications exist in navamsa,

it's

> even stronger.

>

> As for the Sarpa Yoga, it is caused whenever there are 3 natural

> malefics occupying the kendras. In this case all the malefics

occupy the

> kendras, hence the yoga is strong. Good thing is that this occurs

in a

> movable sign and also Jupiter and Venus is conjoined to break the

yoga.

>

> As for children, the 5th house indicates children both for men and

> women. However, In the Saptamsa (D-7), one would take the 9th house

and

> it's lord as the controlling house/planet to find out about

children in

> women (and 5th house and lord) in the case of a man. In rasi the 5th

> house is aspected by the 3rd and 12th lord mercury (slightly

malefic)

> and by the 8th lord Rahu (his 12th aspect in reverse direction)

(malefic

> as well). The 5th lord is debilitated both in navamsa and rasi. In

D-7

> the 5th lord (Mars) is placed in the 8th with Saturn and the

ascendant

> lord. However there is a vipreeta raja yoga. The 9th house lord

Saturn

> is in the 8th (the co-lord is rahu, however Saturn is the stronger

of

> the two). This is not a good indication as far as children are

> concerned. Please ask Ramadas-ji or any of the other gurus for a

good

> remedy.

>

> Thanks,

>

> - Jai

>

>

>

> vijayadas_pradeep [vijayadas_pradeep]

> Friday, June 04, 2004 10:37 AM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: Cancer Lagna with Saturn and Mars

>

> Dear Jai ji

>

> May be there are many explanations for Tapaswi yoga.I believe what

> you have mentioned is one among those.I am not sure.Kindly correct

me.

> I have read from Jaimini sutras that Ketu in karakamsha with

> saturnian influence will make on a Tapaswi.I was trying to

understand

> the reasons behind Ketu and Saturn.

> Ketu is moksha karaka , hence ketu in significant houses(moksha

> trikona?) may make one single minded towards liberation.Liberation

is

> nothing but liberation of everything, excluding that, what you are

> pursuing for.Thus what remains is concentration towards your goal.

> Saturn is a worker who can withstand difficulties and

> obstacles.People with Jupiterian influnece are good in giving wise

> (broad) advises but not in performing at finer levels.Venusian

> influenced ones can attach themselves closely to any task with high

> interest.Thus Venus also has a role here better than jupiter.But

may

> be mercury and jupiter will aid the tapaswi.And I have also read

from

> a web article of Narasimha ji that atmakaraka invlovement in

Tapaswi

> yogas make it stronger.

>

> Thus could you or other learned members help me to understand

> Tapaswi.Should we have strict definitions for Tapaswi?I believe if

> the above said planets are influencing each other significantly a

> Tapas may arise.The degree of intenisity may vary.Thanks for

> observing the parivartana of nakshatras(Venus ,Ketu).

> In this case Venus ,Ketu, Atmakaraka sun & 9th lord jupiter are

> together in Karma sthana.This is being aspected by Saturn(but a

> maraka).Thus I am not aware of the strength.Learned members may

help.

>

> During Sun dasha the individual(please read my mail to Vinay ji)

got

> a job as teacher in a school.She is applying herself there.(this

job

> was not taken for monetary benefits alone).

>

> Sarpa Yoga ? By virtue of malefics occuppying quadrants?What is the

> remedy.I will advise to wear yellow saphire to appease

Jupiter.Thanks.

> It was interesting to note the placements of Saturn in divisionals

as

> you have mentioned.Read in the other mail regarding the marriage

> related mishaps.

>

> How are the indications regarding children?

> The native will be running Moon dasha next.Moon ascendant lord is

in

> 2nd aspected by 9th lord jupiter.Ninth house lord is in 10th.I

> believe for ladies we have to concentrate on 9th house for

> children.Thus can moon dasha be good for this?

>

> Thanks a lot for your analysis.

>

> Pradeep

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Dear Pradeepji, Balagopalji and all,

 

Regarding Tapaswi yoga, let me share what I read (I think in the archives).

 

Sukracharya (Venus) performed penance to Lord Shiva, hanging in inverted

position, with smoke (Ketu) from ground, for a long duration (18 years if I

remember correctly). As result of this tapas, Lord Shiva gave Maha

Mritunjaya Mantra to Sukracharya.

 

Here Ketu forms the testing ground, with Saturn signifying the hard work.

Venus is the one who actually performs the tapas and succeeds in the end.

 

>From JUS (1.2.36 and 37), we understand that we should look for this in

Navamsa.

 

Best Regards,

Sarath.

 

(PS: Interesting link on Venus transit over Sun :

http://www.breakfastwithvenus.org.uk)

 

 

 

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"vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep

<vedic astrology>

Friday, June 04, 2004 8:48 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Cancer Lagna with Saturn and Mars

 

 

> Dear Balagopal ji

>

> Passion of Venus needs to be controlled.You are right.

> But passion is also needed for intimate involvement in any task you

> do:-) Thus it is a viscious circle.

>

> Thanks for the Sarpa yoga and movable rashi clues.

> One experinced astrologer (senior citizen) whom i had met couple of

> months back in my hometown, told me that 9th house in rashi is more

> important for ladies, regarding children.Thus my comment.Thanks for

> Saptamsha clues. May be learned members could verify this 9th house

> rule in rashi.

>

> Thanks for your analysis and time.

>

> Dear Ramadas ji

>

> Could you kindly check the chart given by me and study the

> indications regarding marriage and children.If you need i can sent

> the details again.

>

> Respect

> Pradeep

>

> vedic astrology, "jaidev balagopal"

> <jbalagop> wrote:

> > Dear Pradeep-ji,

> >

> > I defer the Tapaswi yoga question to one of our honorable gurujis.

> > However, just some passing comments - It is said that Venus's

> passion

> > can only be controlled by Ketu and Saturn. A true ascetic/tapaswi

> has to

> > have control over their passions, which is why it is important for

> Venus

> > to be involved in the yoga with Ketu and Saturn. This will show the

> > emergence of a true Tapaswi. Infact if Venus is not under the

> control of

> > Ketu and Saturn, at the most they may externally act like a tapaswi.

> > Also, like you mentioned the association with the AK will further

> > strengthen the combination. Also, if indications exist in navamsa,

> it's

> > even stronger.

> >

> > As for the Sarpa Yoga, it is caused whenever there are 3 natural

> > malefics occupying the kendras. In this case all the malefics

> occupy the

> > kendras, hence the yoga is strong. Good thing is that this occurs

> in a

> > movable sign and also Jupiter and Venus is conjoined to break the

> yoga.

> >

> > As for children, the 5th house indicates children both for men and

> > women. However, In the Saptamsa (D-7), one would take the 9th house

> and

> > it's lord as the controlling house/planet to find out about

> children in

> > women (and 5th house and lord) in the case of a man. In rasi the 5th

> > house is aspected by the 3rd and 12th lord mercury (slightly

> malefic)

> > and by the 8th lord Rahu (his 12th aspect in reverse direction)

> (malefic

> > as well). The 5th lord is debilitated both in navamsa and rasi. In

> D-7

> > the 5th lord (Mars) is placed in the 8th with Saturn and the

> ascendant

> > lord. However there is a vipreeta raja yoga. The 9th house lord

> Saturn

> > is in the 8th (the co-lord is rahu, however Saturn is the stronger

> of

> > the two). This is not a good indication as far as children are

> > concerned. Please ask Ramadas-ji or any of the other gurus for a

> good

> > remedy.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > - Jai

> >

> >

> >

> > vijayadas_pradeep [vijayadas_pradeep]

> > Friday, June 04, 2004 10:37 AM

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Cancer Lagna with Saturn and Mars

> >

> > Dear Jai ji

> >

> > May be there are many explanations for Tapaswi yoga.I believe what

> > you have mentioned is one among those.I am not sure.Kindly correct

> me.

> > I have read from Jaimini sutras that Ketu in karakamsha with

> > saturnian influence will make on a Tapaswi.I was trying to

> understand

> > the reasons behind Ketu and Saturn.

> > Ketu is moksha karaka , hence ketu in significant houses(moksha

> > trikona?) may make one single minded towards liberation.Liberation

> is

> > nothing but liberation of everything, excluding that, what you are

> > pursuing for.Thus what remains is concentration towards your goal.

> > Saturn is a worker who can withstand difficulties and

> > obstacles.People with Jupiterian influnece are good in giving wise

> > (broad) advises but not in performing at finer levels.Venusian

> > influenced ones can attach themselves closely to any task with high

> > interest.Thus Venus also has a role here better than jupiter.But

> may

> > be mercury and jupiter will aid the tapaswi.And I have also read

> from

> > a web article of Narasimha ji that atmakaraka invlovement in

> Tapaswi

> > yogas make it stronger.

> >

> > Thus could you or other learned members help me to understand

> > Tapaswi.Should we have strict definitions for Tapaswi?I believe if

> > the above said planets are influencing each other significantly a

> > Tapas may arise.The degree of intenisity may vary.Thanks for

> > observing the parivartana of nakshatras(Venus ,Ketu).

> > In this case Venus ,Ketu, Atmakaraka sun & 9th lord jupiter are

> > together in Karma sthana.This is being aspected by Saturn(but a

> > maraka).Thus I am not aware of the strength.Learned members may

> help.

> >

> > During Sun dasha the individual(please read my mail to Vinay ji)

> got

> > a job as teacher in a school.She is applying herself there.(this

> job

> > was not taken for monetary benefits alone).

> >

> > Sarpa Yoga ? By virtue of malefics occuppying quadrants?What is the

> > remedy.I will advise to wear yellow saphire to appease

> Jupiter.Thanks.

> > It was interesting to note the placements of Saturn in divisionals

> as

> > you have mentioned.Read in the other mail regarding the marriage

> > related mishaps.

> >

> > How are the indications regarding children?

> > The native will be running Moon dasha next.Moon ascendant lord is

> in

> > 2nd aspected by 9th lord jupiter.Ninth house lord is in 10th.I

> > believe for ladies we have to concentrate on 9th house for

> > children.Thus can moon dasha be good for this?

> >

> > Thanks a lot for your analysis.

> >

> > Pradeep

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Sarath ji

 

Thanks for this mythological example.Any sincere Tapas will be

rwarded.Is ketu smoky or Rahu?I am not sure.

 

regds

pradeep

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wrote:

> Om Krishna Guru

>

> Dear Pradeepji, Balagopalji and all,

>

> Regarding Tapaswi yoga, let me share what I read (I think in the

archives).

>

> Sukracharya (Venus) performed penance to Lord Shiva, hanging in

inverted

> position, with smoke (Ketu) from ground, for a long duration (18

years if I

> remember correctly). As result of this tapas, Lord Shiva gave Maha

> Mritunjaya Mantra to Sukracharya.

>

> Here Ketu forms the testing ground, with Saturn signifying the

hard work.

> Venus is the one who actually performs the tapas and succeeds in

the end.

>

> From JUS (1.2.36 and 37), we understand that we should look for

this in

> Navamsa.

>

> Best Regards,

> Sarath.

>

> (PS: Interesting link on Venus transit over Sun :

> http://www.breakfastwithvenus.org.uk)

>

>

>

> -

> "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep>

> <vedic astrology>

> Friday, June 04, 2004 8:48 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Cancer Lagna with Saturn and Mars

>

>

> > Dear Balagopal ji

> >

> > Passion of Venus needs to be controlled.You are right.

> > But passion is also needed for intimate involvement in any task

you

> > do:-) Thus it is a viscious circle.

> >

> > Thanks for the Sarpa yoga and movable rashi clues.

> > One experinced astrologer (senior citizen) whom i had met couple

of

> > months back in my hometown, told me that 9th house in rashi is

more

> > important for ladies, regarding children.Thus my comment.Thanks

for

> > Saptamsha clues. May be learned members could verify this 9th

house

> > rule in rashi.

> >

> > Thanks for your analysis and time.

> >

> > Dear Ramadas ji

> >

> > Could you kindly check the chart given by me and study the

> > indications regarding marriage and children.If you need i can

sent

> > the details again.

> >

> > Respect

> > Pradeep

> >

> > vedic astrology, "jaidev balagopal"

> > <jbalagop> wrote:

> > > Dear Pradeep-ji,

> > >

> > > I defer the Tapaswi yoga question to one of our honorable

gurujis.

> > > However, just some passing comments - It is said that Venus's

> > passion

> > > can only be controlled by Ketu and Saturn. A true

ascetic/tapaswi

> > has to

> > > have control over their passions, which is why it is important

for

> > Venus

> > > to be involved in the yoga with Ketu and Saturn. This will

show the

> > > emergence of a true Tapaswi. Infact if Venus is not under the

> > control of

> > > Ketu and Saturn, at the most they may externally act like a

tapaswi.

> > > Also, like you mentioned the association with the AK will

further

> > > strengthen the combination. Also, if indications exist in

navamsa,

> > it's

> > > even stronger.

> > >

> > > As for the Sarpa Yoga, it is caused whenever there are 3

natural

> > > malefics occupying the kendras. In this case all the malefics

> > occupy the

> > > kendras, hence the yoga is strong. Good thing is that this

occurs

> > in a

> > > movable sign and also Jupiter and Venus is conjoined to break

the

> > yoga.

> > >

> > > As for children, the 5th house indicates children both for men

and

> > > women. However, In the Saptamsa (D-7), one would take the 9th

house

> > and

> > > it's lord as the controlling house/planet to find out about

> > children in

> > > women (and 5th house and lord) in the case of a man. In rasi

the 5th

> > > house is aspected by the 3rd and 12th lord mercury (slightly

> > malefic)

> > > and by the 8th lord Rahu (his 12th aspect in reverse direction)

> > (malefic

> > > as well). The 5th lord is debilitated both in navamsa and

rasi. In

> > D-7

> > > the 5th lord (Mars) is placed in the 8th with Saturn and the

> > ascendant

> > > lord. However there is a vipreeta raja yoga. The 9th house lord

> > Saturn

> > > is in the 8th (the co-lord is rahu, however Saturn is the

stronger

> > of

> > > the two). This is not a good indication as far as children are

> > > concerned. Please ask Ramadas-ji or any of the other gurus for

a

> > good

> > > remedy.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > - Jai

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vijayadas_pradeep [vijayadas_pradeep]

> > > Friday, June 04, 2004 10:37 AM

> > > vedic astrology

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Cancer Lagna with Saturn and

Mars

> > >

> > > Dear Jai ji

> > >

> > > May be there are many explanations for Tapaswi yoga.I believe

what

> > > you have mentioned is one among those.I am not sure.Kindly

correct

> > me.

> > > I have read from Jaimini sutras that Ketu in karakamsha with

> > > saturnian influence will make on a Tapaswi.I was trying to

> > understand

> > > the reasons behind Ketu and Saturn.

> > > Ketu is moksha karaka , hence ketu in significant houses(moksha

> > > trikona?) may make one single minded towards

liberation.Liberation

> > is

> > > nothing but liberation of everything, excluding that, what you

are

> > > pursuing for.Thus what remains is concentration towards your

goal.

> > > Saturn is a worker who can withstand difficulties and

> > > obstacles.People with Jupiterian influnece are good in giving

wise

> > > (broad) advises but not in performing at finer levels.Venusian

> > > influenced ones can attach themselves closely to any task with

high

> > > interest.Thus Venus also has a role here better than

jupiter.But

> > may

> > > be mercury and jupiter will aid the tapaswi.And I have also

read

> > from

> > > a web article of Narasimha ji that atmakaraka invlovement in

> > Tapaswi

> > > yogas make it stronger.

> > >

> > > Thus could you or other learned members help me to understand

> > > Tapaswi.Should we have strict definitions for Tapaswi?I

believe if

> > > the above said planets are influencing each other

significantly a

> > > Tapas may arise.The degree of intenisity may vary.Thanks for

> > > observing the parivartana of nakshatras(Venus ,Ketu).

> > > In this case Venus ,Ketu, Atmakaraka sun & 9th lord jupiter are

> > > together in Karma sthana.This is being aspected by Saturn(but a

> > > maraka).Thus I am not aware of the strength.Learned members may

> > help.

> > >

> > > During Sun dasha the individual(please read my mail to Vinay

ji)

> > got

> > > a job as teacher in a school.She is applying herself there.

(this

> > job

> > > was not taken for monetary benefits alone).

> > >

> > > Sarpa Yoga ? By virtue of malefics occuppying quadrants?What

is the

> > > remedy.I will advise to wear yellow saphire to appease

> > Jupiter.Thanks.

> > > It was interesting to note the placements of Saturn in

divisionals

> > as

> > > you have mentioned.Read in the other mail regarding the

marriage

> > > related mishaps.

> > >

> > > How are the indications regarding children?

> > > The native will be running Moon dasha next.Moon ascendant lord

is

> > in

> > > 2nd aspected by 9th lord jupiter.Ninth house lord is in 10th.I

> > > believe for ladies we have to concentrate on 9th house for

> > > children.Thus can moon dasha be good for this?

> > >

> > > Thanks a lot for your analysis.

> > >

> > > Pradeep

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Group info: vedic-

astrology/info.html

> >

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> >

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