Guest guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 Dear Pradeep-ji, I defer the Tapaswi yoga question to one of our honorable gurujis. However, just some passing comments - It is said that Venus's passion can only be controlled by Ketu and Saturn. A true ascetic/tapaswi has to have control over their passions, which is why it is important for Venus to be involved in the yoga with Ketu and Saturn. This will show the emergence of a true Tapaswi. Infact if Venus is not under the control of Ketu and Saturn, at the most they may externally act like a tapaswi. Also, like you mentioned the association with the AK will further strengthen the combination. Also, if indications exist in navamsa, it's even stronger. As for the Sarpa Yoga, it is caused whenever there are 3 natural malefics occupying the kendras. In this case all the malefics occupy the kendras, hence the yoga is strong. Good thing is that this occurs in a movable sign and also Jupiter and Venus is conjoined to break the yoga. As for children, the 5th house indicates children both for men and women. However, In the Saptamsa (D-7), one would take the 9th house and it's lord as the controlling house/planet to find out about children in women (and 5th house and lord) in the case of a man. In rasi the 5th house is aspected by the 3rd and 12th lord mercury (slightly malefic) and by the 8th lord Rahu (his 12th aspect in reverse direction) (malefic as well). The 5th lord is debilitated both in navamsa and rasi. In D-7 the 5th lord (Mars) is placed in the 8th with Saturn and the ascendant lord. However there is a vipreeta raja yoga. The 9th house lord Saturn is in the 8th (the co-lord is rahu, however Saturn is the stronger of the two). This is not a good indication as far as children are concerned. Please ask Ramadas-ji or any of the other gurus for a good remedy. Thanks, - Jai vijayadas_pradeep [vijayadas_pradeep] Friday, June 04, 2004 10:37 AM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: Cancer Lagna with Saturn and Mars Dear Jai ji May be there are many explanations for Tapaswi yoga.I believe what you have mentioned is one among those.I am not sure.Kindly correct me. I have read from Jaimini sutras that Ketu in karakamsha with saturnian influence will make on a Tapaswi.I was trying to understand the reasons behind Ketu and Saturn. Ketu is moksha karaka , hence ketu in significant houses(moksha trikona?) may make one single minded towards liberation.Liberation is nothing but liberation of everything, excluding that, what you are pursuing for.Thus what remains is concentration towards your goal. Saturn is a worker who can withstand difficulties and obstacles.People with Jupiterian influnece are good in giving wise (broad) advises but not in performing at finer levels.Venusian influenced ones can attach themselves closely to any task with high interest.Thus Venus also has a role here better than jupiter.But may be mercury and jupiter will aid the tapaswi.And I have also read from a web article of Narasimha ji that atmakaraka invlovement in Tapaswi yogas make it stronger. Thus could you or other learned members help me to understand Tapaswi.Should we have strict definitions for Tapaswi?I believe if the above said planets are influencing each other significantly a Tapas may arise.The degree of intenisity may vary.Thanks for observing the parivartana of nakshatras(Venus ,Ketu). In this case Venus ,Ketu, Atmakaraka sun & 9th lord jupiter are together in Karma sthana.This is being aspected by Saturn(but a maraka).Thus I am not aware of the strength.Learned members may help. During Sun dasha the individual(please read my mail to Vinay ji) got a job as teacher in a school.She is applying herself there.(this job was not taken for monetary benefits alone). Sarpa Yoga ? By virtue of malefics occuppying quadrants?What is the remedy.I will advise to wear yellow saphire to appease Jupiter.Thanks. It was interesting to note the placements of Saturn in divisionals as you have mentioned.Read in the other mail regarding the marriage related mishaps. How are the indications regarding children? The native will be running Moon dasha next.Moon ascendant lord is in 2nd aspected by 9th lord jupiter.Ninth house lord is in 10th.I believe for ladies we have to concentrate on 9th house for children.Thus can moon dasha be good for this? Thanks a lot for your analysis. Pradeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 Om Krishna Guru Dear Pradeepji, Balagopalji and all, Regarding Tapaswi yoga, let me share what I read (I think in the archives). Sukracharya (Venus) performed penance to Lord Shiva, hanging in inverted position, with smoke (Ketu) from ground, for a long duration (18 years if I remember correctly). As result of this tapas, Lord Shiva gave Maha Mritunjaya Mantra to Sukracharya. Here Ketu forms the testing ground, with Saturn signifying the hard work. Venus is the one who actually performs the tapas and succeeds in the end. >From JUS (1.2.36 and 37), we understand that we should look for this in Navamsa. Best Regards, Sarath. (PS: Interesting link on Venus transit over Sun : http://www.breakfastwithvenus.org.uk) - "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep <vedic astrology> Friday, June 04, 2004 8:48 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Cancer Lagna with Saturn and Mars > Dear Balagopal ji > > Passion of Venus needs to be controlled.You are right. > But passion is also needed for intimate involvement in any task you > do:-) Thus it is a viscious circle. > > Thanks for the Sarpa yoga and movable rashi clues. > One experinced astrologer (senior citizen) whom i had met couple of > months back in my hometown, told me that 9th house in rashi is more > important for ladies, regarding children.Thus my comment.Thanks for > Saptamsha clues. May be learned members could verify this 9th house > rule in rashi. > > Thanks for your analysis and time. > > Dear Ramadas ji > > Could you kindly check the chart given by me and study the > indications regarding marriage and children.If you need i can sent > the details again. > > Respect > Pradeep > > vedic astrology, "jaidev balagopal" > <jbalagop> wrote: > > Dear Pradeep-ji, > > > > I defer the Tapaswi yoga question to one of our honorable gurujis. > > However, just some passing comments - It is said that Venus's > passion > > can only be controlled by Ketu and Saturn. A true ascetic/tapaswi > has to > > have control over their passions, which is why it is important for > Venus > > to be involved in the yoga with Ketu and Saturn. This will show the > > emergence of a true Tapaswi. Infact if Venus is not under the > control of > > Ketu and Saturn, at the most they may externally act like a tapaswi. > > Also, like you mentioned the association with the AK will further > > strengthen the combination. Also, if indications exist in navamsa, > it's > > even stronger. > > > > As for the Sarpa Yoga, it is caused whenever there are 3 natural > > malefics occupying the kendras. In this case all the malefics > occupy the > > kendras, hence the yoga is strong. Good thing is that this occurs > in a > > movable sign and also Jupiter and Venus is conjoined to break the > yoga. > > > > As for children, the 5th house indicates children both for men and > > women. However, In the Saptamsa (D-7), one would take the 9th house > and > > it's lord as the controlling house/planet to find out about > children in > > women (and 5th house and lord) in the case of a man. In rasi the 5th > > house is aspected by the 3rd and 12th lord mercury (slightly > malefic) > > and by the 8th lord Rahu (his 12th aspect in reverse direction) > (malefic > > as well). The 5th lord is debilitated both in navamsa and rasi. In > D-7 > > the 5th lord (Mars) is placed in the 8th with Saturn and the > ascendant > > lord. However there is a vipreeta raja yoga. The 9th house lord > Saturn > > is in the 8th (the co-lord is rahu, however Saturn is the stronger > of > > the two). This is not a good indication as far as children are > > concerned. Please ask Ramadas-ji or any of the other gurus for a > good > > remedy. > > > > Thanks, > > > > - Jai > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep [vijayadas_pradeep] > > Friday, June 04, 2004 10:37 AM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] Re: Cancer Lagna with Saturn and Mars > > > > Dear Jai ji > > > > May be there are many explanations for Tapaswi yoga.I believe what > > you have mentioned is one among those.I am not sure.Kindly correct > me. > > I have read from Jaimini sutras that Ketu in karakamsha with > > saturnian influence will make on a Tapaswi.I was trying to > understand > > the reasons behind Ketu and Saturn. > > Ketu is moksha karaka , hence ketu in significant houses(moksha > > trikona?) may make one single minded towards liberation.Liberation > is > > nothing but liberation of everything, excluding that, what you are > > pursuing for.Thus what remains is concentration towards your goal. > > Saturn is a worker who can withstand difficulties and > > obstacles.People with Jupiterian influnece are good in giving wise > > (broad) advises but not in performing at finer levels.Venusian > > influenced ones can attach themselves closely to any task with high > > interest.Thus Venus also has a role here better than jupiter.But > may > > be mercury and jupiter will aid the tapaswi.And I have also read > from > > a web article of Narasimha ji that atmakaraka invlovement in > Tapaswi > > yogas make it stronger. > > > > Thus could you or other learned members help me to understand > > Tapaswi.Should we have strict definitions for Tapaswi?I believe if > > the above said planets are influencing each other significantly a > > Tapas may arise.The degree of intenisity may vary.Thanks for > > observing the parivartana of nakshatras(Venus ,Ketu). > > In this case Venus ,Ketu, Atmakaraka sun & 9th lord jupiter are > > together in Karma sthana.This is being aspected by Saturn(but a > > maraka).Thus I am not aware of the strength.Learned members may > help. > > > > During Sun dasha the individual(please read my mail to Vinay ji) > got > > a job as teacher in a school.She is applying herself there.(this > job > > was not taken for monetary benefits alone). > > > > Sarpa Yoga ? By virtue of malefics occuppying quadrants?What is the > > remedy.I will advise to wear yellow saphire to appease > Jupiter.Thanks. > > It was interesting to note the placements of Saturn in divisionals > as > > you have mentioned.Read in the other mail regarding the marriage > > related mishaps. > > > > How are the indications regarding children? > > The native will be running Moon dasha next.Moon ascendant lord is > in > > 2nd aspected by 9th lord jupiter.Ninth house lord is in 10th.I > > believe for ladies we have to concentrate on 9th house for > > children.Thus can moon dasha be good for this? > > > > Thanks a lot for your analysis. > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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