Fwd: Saturn's Transit over Amsha position (Examples)

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While it is apparent that you have to keep fighting, can you not please keep

your battles off this list. This has absolutely no astrological/spiritual

value. So to qualify these emails, i decided to turn this into an astrological

discussion. As you all know there are 6 internal faults that are are enemies

that will keep us from fully realizing ourselves. That is why we look at the

6th house. Since these are our internal enemies we look at the trimsamsa or

D-30 (12*2 + 6). According to PVR-ji (my memory is kinda rusty), but from what

i remember - If you look at the trimsamsa the 7th house indicates Kama-desire

(Venus), 8th indicates Krodha-anger(Mars), 9th Indicates Moha-dellusion (Moon),

10 indicates mada-pride (represented by sun), the 11th lobha (or greed)(Saturn)

and the 12th matsarya-envy(represented by mercury). Which means if you have any

of these houses or planets have malefic influences on them, it signifies the

areas which is causing u troubles. So all you

generals out there, please search to see if your 8th house or mars is not afflicted.

 

The second question stems from what I remember of what Sanjay-ji said in his

discussion. He said that Jupiter cannot signify anything negative, however,

considering that the trimsamsa is lorded by the 5 planets (with Sun and Moon

out of the picture) can we qualify the jupiter as representing lobha (or

greed). Just wondering if any of you have any inputs on this.

 

Thanks,

 

- Jai

sushmita34 <sushmita34 > wrote:

I didn't accuse you or Aman Sood directly, hence I used the word "maybe" if you

read the mail carefully. I was only trying to highlight that through your

previous mails on the list and "if you are really Sushmita" line, that you get

too personal in the wrong way . Let's face it, you haven't been the epitome of

sweetness and grace on the list.Why do you think, Partha has left the list and

gone into sanyas. If it wasn't you or Aman Sood then for what reason?Your not

replying on other points in my previous email shows that you do not want to

accept the blind charts analysis. You write such lines to me "a chart would be

GIVEN to you" shows great authority and scholarliness hence I thought first you

should prove your authority on the subject since so far I haven't seen an astro

book having an author printed "nonameisego" or

"undersigned". Most of us including myself are learners still and trying to

grapple this science.Yes, one thing you are right on, that is posting more on

this would be fruitless.Goodbye for now.Sush--- In

vedic astrology, "nameisego" wrote:> > Hello Ms.Sushmita,> You

may not be aware that a personal mail exachnge has taken place > between self

and Partha.> > Your accusation that Partha would be leaving astrology because

of > this being and a character called Aman sood is extremely far fetched.> >

This is not only far fetched but just Ridiculous.> It sounds so ridiculous that

the story of > "A man who died because a betel leaf fell on his head." seems

more > probable.> > Posting more on this and increasing the friction would

serve no > purpose. > Tatvam-Asi> > > >

> vedic astrology, "sushmita34" > wrote:> > Nameisego> >

May be Sushmitaji (If you really are Sushmita)does not know that a > > >

priciple was being discussed.> > > > I am sorry if I understood the posts

wrongly, but my intention was > to > > highlight that things must be discussed

more holistically > especially > > if it is such a grave issue, since such

transits repeat in frequent > > or max 30 year cycle, death doesn't occur every

time.> > > > You really know how to get personal and rub people the wrong way >

> don't you. Atleast I have a name, do you have one.> > Just because I defended

Partha, you have written this. Do you > > understand how much damage your mails

can do, I hear that Partha > has > > gone into a depression maybe due to you

and Aman

Sood and he would > be > > leaving astrology for some years. Do you realise the

damage that > you > > do.> > > > I had only said that discussing an event

should be complete from > dasa > > and transits, I didn't mean that transits

don't give results.> > > > I do not post on this as a scholar, you do, you say

that a chart > > would be given to me, how come you haven't so far predicted on

the > > blind charts posted this month. I haven't seen a single attempt > from >

> you or did I miss those mails.> > > > Did you post your birth details on the

list when someone asked you > > to? Not that I am interesting in knowing them.>

> > > Since you are the scholar, how about you going through 5 blind > charts >

> and predicting on 10 events with dates & esp the date of death.>

> > > If you feel I am going to get into a exchange of mails without any > >

astrological content to it, you would be wrong esp not with you > > > > Honey

attracts more than a sour fruit. Distribution of knowledge is > > an ART that

very few know, see the following of Narasimha and > Sanjay > > Rath, inspite of

their strictness people worship them and love them.> > > > Sushmita> > > > > >

vedic astrology, "nameisego" > > > wrote:> > > > > >

Hello Ms.Sushmita,> > > > > > No astrologer in dreams would predict a major

event like death > > seeing > > > just one component like the amasa transit.> >

> All factors contributing to such an event are taken into account > > and > > >

a prediction

is given.> > > > > > A post motem you say ? > > > May be Sushmitaji (If you

really are Sushmita)does not know that > a > > > priciple was being discussed.

Not only K.N Rao but all > astrologers > > > should study a chart in maximum

possible ways and using various > > > methods known by them, should predict

such grave issues.> > > > > > You would make people laugh if you say that

Transits are not > useful > > > in predicting events.> > > How many techniques

of Daiva Keralam have you used and found to > > fall > > > flat madam ? And

what makes you say that Deva-Keralam is based > only > > > on Transit

techniques?> > > > > > If you are well conversant with various methods, a chart

will be > > > given to you.> > > Let's see how you are

predicting even basic things seeing that > > chart.> > > > > > Tatvam-Asi> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "sushmita34"

> > > wrote:> > > > Hi Everyone,> > > > Isn't this just a post mortem technique,

can we use only > transits > > > to > > > > discuss such grave issues, and to

successfully predict the real > > > cruz > > > > would be when this technique

is applied on blind charts.> > > > > > > > This is not intended towards anyone,

giving examples only on > > > transits > > > > are not useful for students of

astrology, when we get a > > > chart ,using > > > > only transits are not much

use, it is always

beneficial to use > > > > composite techniques as given in most of the books by

K.N.Rao > and > > > his > > > > associates where HOW EXACTLY to synthesise

multiple techniques > > are > > > > illustrated with repeatable success.

Discussing sole techniques > > can > > > > be illusionairy to most students of

this list. > > > > > > > > > > > > Most of the techniques which are transit

driven in Deva > Keralam , > > > > fall flat when individualy applied and have

LESS predictive > value > > > > unless we combine with Dasha, can someone come

out with the > > secrets > > > > of dashas combined with transits where such

fatal predictions > are > > > > given. That would be a master's post.> > > > >

> > >

Regards,> > > > Sushmita> > > > > > > > !------------------------

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Dear Jai,

 

The Shadripus and their governers are as follows:

 

Mars- Krodha- AngerRahu- Lobha- greedSaturn- Mada- PrideVenus- Kama- passion/

lustMercury- Matsarya- Envy/ JealousyKetu- Moha- Infatuation/ Illusion

 

The lumineris and Jupiter do not signify any ripu or source of weaknesses.

 

Regards

Sarajitj balagopal <jbalagop > wrote:

no-name, and the other generals on this list -

 

While it is apparent that you have to keep fighting, can you not please keep

your battles off this list. This has absolutely no astrological/spiritual

value. So to qualify these emails, i decided to turn this into an astrological

discussion. As you all know there are 6 internal faults that are are enemies

that will keep us from fully realizing ourselves. That is why we look at the

6th house. Since these are our internal enemies we look at the trimsamsa or

D-30 (12*2 + 6). According to PVR-ji (my memory is kinda rusty), but from what

i remember - If you look at the trimsamsa the 7th house indicates Kama-desire

(Venus), 8th indicates Krodha-anger(Mars), 9th Indicates Moha-dellusion (Moon),

10 indicates mada-pride (represented by sun), the 11th lobha (or greed)(Saturn)

and the 12th matsarya-envy(represented by mercury). Which means if you have any

of these houses or planets have malefic influences on them, it signifies the

areas which is causing u troubles. So all you

generals out there, please search to see if your 8th house or mars is not afflicted.

 

The second question stems from what I remember of what Sanjay-ji said in his

discussion. He said that Jupiter cannot signify anything negative, however,

considering that the trimsamsa is lorded by the 5 planets (with Sun and Moon

out of the picture) can we qualify the jupiter as representing lobha (or

greed). Just wondering if any of you have any inputs on this.

 

Thanks,

 

- Jai

sushmita34 <sushmita34 > wrote:

I didn't accuse you or Aman Sood directly, hence I used the word "maybe" if you

read the mail carefully. I was only trying to highlight that through your

previous mails on the list and "if you are really Sushmita" line, that you get

too personal in the wrong way . Let's face it, you haven't been the epitome of

sweetness and grace on the list.Why do you think, Partha has left the list and

gone into sanyas. If it wasn't you or Aman Sood then for what reason?Your not

replying on other points in my previous email shows that you do not want to

accept the blind charts analysis. You write such lines to me "a chart would be

GIVEN to you" shows great authority and scholarliness hence I thought first you

should prove your authority on the subject since so far I haven't seen an astro

book having an author printed "nonameisego" or

"undersigned". Most of us including myself are learners still and trying to

grapple this science.Yes, one thing you are right on, that is posting more on

this would be fruitless.Goodbye for now.Sush--- In

vedic astrology, "nameisego" wrote:> > Hello Ms.Sushmita,> You

may not be aware that a personal mail exachnge has taken place > between self

and Partha.> > Your accusation that Partha would be leaving astrology because

of > this being and a character called Aman sood is extremely far fetched.> >

This is not only far fetched but just Ridiculous.> It sounds so ridiculous that

the story of > "A man who died because a betel leaf fell on his head." seems

more > probable.> > Posting more on this and increasing the friction would

serve no > purpose. > Tatvam-Asi> > > >

> vedic astrology, "sushmita34" > wrote:> > Nameisego> >

May be Sushmitaji (If you really are Sushmita)does not know that a > > >

priciple was being discussed.> > > > I am sorry if I understood the posts

wrongly, but my intention was > to > > highlight that things must be discussed

more holistically > especially > > if it is such a grave issue, since such

transits repeat in frequent > > or max 30 year cycle, death doesn't occur every

time.> > > > You really know how to get personal and rub people the wrong way >

> don't you. Atleast I have a name, do you have one.> > Just because I defended

Partha, you have written this. Do you > > understand how much damage your mails

can do, I hear that Partha > has > > gone into a depression maybe due to you

and Aman

Sood and he would > be > > leaving astrology for some years. Do you realise the

damage that > you > > do.> > > > I had only said that discussing an event

should be complete from > dasa > > and transits, I didn't mean that transits

don't give results.> > > > I do not post on this as a scholar, you do, you say

that a chart > > would be given to me, how come you haven't so far predicted on

the > > blind charts posted this month. I haven't seen a single attempt > from >

> you or did I miss those mails.> > > > Did you post your birth details on the

list when someone asked you > > to? Not that I am interesting in knowing them.>

> > > Since you are the scholar, how about you going through 5 blind > charts >

> and predicting on 10 events with dates & esp the date of death.>

> > > If you feel I am going to get into a exchange of mails without any > >

astrological content to it, you would be wrong esp not with you > > > > Honey

attracts more than a sour fruit. Distribution of knowledge is > > an ART that

very few know, see the following of Narasimha and > Sanjay > > Rath, inspite of

their strictness people worship them and love them.> > > > Sushmita> > > > > >

vedic astrology, "nameisego" > > > wrote:> > > > > >

Hello Ms.Sushmita,> > > > > > No astrologer in dreams would predict a major

event like death > > seeing > > > just one component like the amasa transit.> >

> All factors contributing to such an event are taken into account > > and > > >

a prediction

is given.> > > > > > A post motem you say ? > > > May be Sushmitaji (If you

really are Sushmita)does not know that > a > > > priciple was being discussed.

Not only K.N Rao but all > astrologers > > > should study a chart in maximum

possible ways and using various > > > methods known by them, should predict

such grave issues.> > > > > > You would make people laugh if you say that

Transits are not > useful > > > in predicting events.> > > How many techniques

of Daiva Keralam have you used and found to > > fall > > > flat madam ? And

what makes you say that Deva-Keralam is based > only > > > on Transit

techniques?> > > > > > If you are well conversant with various methods, a chart

will be > > > given to you.> > > Let's see how you are

predicting even basic things seeing that > > chart.> > > > > > Tatvam-Asi> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "sushmita34"

> > > wrote:> > > > Hi Everyone,> > > > Isn't this just a post mortem technique,

can we use only > transits > > > to > > > > discuss such grave issues, and to

successfully predict the real > > > cruz > > > > would be when this technique

is applied on blind charts.> > > > > > > > This is not intended towards anyone,

giving examples only on > > > transits > > > > are not useful for students of

astrology, when we get a > > > chart ,using > > > > only transits are not much

use, it is always

beneficial to use > > > > composite techniques as given in most of the books by

K.N.Rao > and > > > his > > > > associates where HOW EXACTLY to synthesise

multiple techniques > > are > > > > illustrated with repeatable success.

Discussing sole techniques > > can > > > > be illusionairy to most students of

this list. > > > > > > > > > > > > Most of the techniques which are transit

driven in Deva > Keralam , > > > > fall flat when individualy applied and have

LESS predictive > value > > > > unless we combine with Dasha, can someone come

out with the > > secrets > > > > of dashas combined with transits where such

fatal predictions > are > > > > given. That would be a master's post.> > > > >

> > >

Regards,> > > > Sushmita> > > > > > > > !------------------------

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