Doubt on a Raja Yoga Combination Sri Partha

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Dear Sri Parthasarathy,

 

In addition to your remarks about placement of Rahu or Saturn in 12th,

There is a saying in Gujarati which says,

12th Rahu will either take you up (Kill you)

or it will put you in fetters (Jail).

 

Why 12th Rahu is a bandhanakarta?

May be the answer lies in Ketu's disposition.

12th ketu is considered as Moksha karaka.

Opposit of that is Rahu in 12th, it should become a Bandhana karta.

 

It is not known if this holds true in its placement in 12th in from

AK or AL.

It would be interesting to know more on this from you and other

learned friends.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

-- In vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

<partvinu5> wrote:

> Dear Rao

>

> The ones that are in 12th from pada lagna, actually show the mode

of

> loss. Now if you read the BPHS and Jaimini sutras carefully, there

is

> a mention of loss by Taxes, and other means.

>

> The 12th From Pada lagna is what one rejects, wherea one in 12th

from

> lagna is what is lost, and one in 12th from Ak is what Soul doesnot

> approve of.

>

> Now when there are malefics like Rahu, or saturn in 12th one tends

to

> reject the materialism and greed or such a karakatwa is lost, hence

> the Reputation is gained. That is the Real Raja Yoga

> best wishes

> partha

>

>

> vedic astrology, Rao Nemani <raon1008>

> wrote:

> > Namaste Guru's and Learned Members,

> >

> > I have heard on one of the conference CD's, where it was

mentioned

> that "Rahu or Saturn or Ketu, placed in 12th house from AL, forms a

> Raja Yoga".

> >

> > As I have tried to understand that 12th house the house of loss

and

> these malefics placed in 12th house reverse the loss and give the

> gains hence forms the Raja Yoga. I am not able to understand this,

so

> may I request you to please help me to get clear this doubt.

> >

> > Thanks for your help in advance.

> >

> > Regards

> > Raghunadha Rao

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear all those in this thread,

This is what I understand:

Planets in 12 from lagna shows the actual loss or

things that are totally foreign to one's Norm.

Planets in 12th from AL means the ways one loses his

materialistic things.

12th from AK denotes the Ishta devatha who can guide

the native to Moksha which is the sole purpose of the

Soul(Atma).

Now let us analyse this wrt planets like SA, Ra in

12th. These planets are malefic by nature and if they

are friendly to the native's lagna lord, by their

placement in 12th they become benefic to the native by

giving material things to the native. ie Native goes

to a foreign land and earns more. If by chance these

planets happen to be inimical to the Lagnesh, then

they can put the native in to Jail and also The native

dies in the foreign land after facing hardships.

Consider the placement of these planets in 12th from

AL. 12th from AL indicates the material loses suffered

by the native. Placement of these planets indicates

losses through servants, cheats, drugs etc..

Consider the placement of these planets in 12th from

AK. Sa indicates Varaha Murthy ( Tirupathi Balaji) and

Ra indicated mata Durga Or Chamundi.

 

Just verify the deities that rules these planets as I

am not sure at this time the deity that rules Sa. I

need to verify the books for this and apologies..

 

Lakshman

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello Lakshman:

 

Your note is clear as to Lagna and Aroudha Lagna. However, unclear as

to Atmakaraka.

 

The planet placed in 12th from the placment of Atmakara in Navamsha

chart represent the Ista-devta NOT in lagna chart. So should be look

at Navamsah chart to determine the effects of 12th from Atmakaraka

that you've denoted below?

 

Also, Sanjay says in one of this books that Mercury placed in 12th

from AL is a boon. How do you reconcile this statement with your note

where you stated that planets in 12th from AL causes material loss?

 

Thanks.

Mukund

 

vedic astrology, Lakshman Brahma

<lbrahma> wrote:

> Dear all those in this thread,

> This is what I understand:

> Planets in 12 from lagna shows the actual loss or

> things that are totally foreign to one's Norm.

> Planets in 12th from AL means the ways one loses his

> materialistic things.

> 12th from AK denotes the Ishta devatha who can guide

> the native to Moksha which is the sole purpose of the

> Soul(Atma).

> Now let us analyse this wrt planets like SA, Ra in

> 12th. These planets are malefic by nature and if they

> are friendly to the native's lagna lord, by their

> placement in 12th they become benefic to the native by

> giving material things to the native. ie Native goes

> to a foreign land and earns more. If by chance these

> planets happen to be inimical to the Lagnesh, then

> they can put the native in to Jail and also The native

> dies in the foreign land after facing hardships.

> Consider the placement of these planets in 12th from

> AL. 12th from AL indicates the material loses suffered

> by the native. Placement of these planets indicates

> losses through servants, cheats, drugs etc..

> Consider the placement of these planets in 12th from

> AK. Sa indicates Varaha Murthy ( Tirupathi Balaji) and

> Ra indicated mata Durga Or Chamundi.

>

> Just verify the deities that rules these planets as I

> am not sure at this time the deity that rules Sa. I

> need to verify the books for this and apologies..

>

> Lakshman

>

>

>

>

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Dear Mukund

Thanks for pointing out the error.. ie 12th from AK

should be seen in Navamsa and not in Rasi chart.. I

was in the enthusiasm to reply and forgot this ..

Thanks once again.

 

However, unclear as

> to Atmakaraka.

>

> The planet placed in 12th from the placment of

> Atmakara in Navamsha

> chart represent the Ista-devta NOT in lagna chart.

> So should be look

>

> Also, Sanjay says in one of this books that Mercury

> placed in 12th

Honestly I would appreciate if Guru deva clarifies

this as I do not know the answer. As far as I think,

Me denotes /education ,maternal uncles and probably

you may be spending for the activities related to Me

which is education or taking care of maternal uncles..

I also look for the answer to this from our esteemed

Gurus..

Lakshman

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Lakshman and Others,

 

Namaste ! I'll write my uderstanding.

 

Generally,12th house is house of loss.But,12th from AL is the one which native

rejects himself.Any planets or padas placed in 12th from AL will not flourish

and native will simply reject it.That's why it is generally said that if UL is

in 12th from AL then the native will reject his spouse.We shall simply expand

this rule to other padas also.

 

Planets like rahu and sat are the planets that are reason for our re-birth by

making us to be more in materialistic thoughts and life.If they goes to 12th

from AL,native himself will not be interested in materialistic life and will be

more involved in spritual activities.

 

Dear Partha,

 

You wrote,

 

" 12th from Ak is what Soul doesnot approve of."

 

Am i missing something here ?

 

Could you please eloborate more on this ?

 

i thought that 12th from AK is what the soul likes more or attached with.Because

we identify the Ista moorthy (which guides the soul ie which the soul likes more

) only by seeing the 12th from AK.

 

I am eagerly waiting to get any correction in my thoughts.

 

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Regards,

 

Krithi

 

 

 

 

 

Lakshman Brahma <lbrahma > wrote:

Dear all those in this thread,This is what I understand:Planets in 12 from lagna

shows the actual loss orthings that are totally foreign to one's Norm.Planets in

12th from AL means the ways one loses hismaterialistic things.12th from AK

denotes the Ishta devatha who can guidethe native to Moksha which is the sole

purpose of theSoul(Atma).Now let us analyse this wrt planets like SA, Ra

in12th. These planets are malefic by nature and if theyare friendly to the

native's lagna lord, by theirplacement in 12th they become benefic to the

native bygiving material things to the native. ie Native goesto a foreign land

and earns more. If by chance theseplanets happen to be inimical to the Lagnesh,

thenthey can put the native in to Jail and also The nativedies in the foreign

land after facing hardships. Consider the placement

of these planets in 12th fromAL. 12th from AL indicates the material loses

sufferedby the native. Placement of these planets indicateslosses through

servants, cheats, drugs etc..Consider the placement of these planets in 12th

fromAK. Sa indicates Varaha Murthy ( Tirupathi Balaji) andRa indicated mata

Durga Or Chamundi. Just verify the deities that rules these planets as Iam not

sure at this time the deity that rules Sa. Ineed to verify the books for this

and apologies..LakshmanNew and

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Dear Krithi

 

12th from AK in navamsa shows ishta murthy and not in rasi chart.

 

The planets in apoklimas from AK do not get approval of the King,

that is the Atma. Or we can see it as a deep conflict. Now the good

news is that the planets in 3rd and 11th From ak can get approval

through compromise and promises.

Planet in 12th from AK is what the Atma might not approve at all. We

talk of 12th from AL is what the native rejects, say rahu is in 12th

>From AK, then what happens?

best wishes

partha

 

 

vedic astrology, Krithigaivasan R

<sri_hayagriva> wrote:

> || Om Vinayakaya Namaha :: Om Hayagrivam Upasmahe ||

>

> Dear Lakshman and Others,

>

> Namaste ! I'll write my uderstanding.

>

> Generally,12th house is house of loss.But,12th from AL is the one

which native rejects himself.Any planets or padas placed in 12th from

AL will not flourish and native will simply reject it.That's why it

is generally said that if UL is in 12th from AL then the native will

reject his spouse.We shall simply expand this rule to other padas

also.

>

> Planets like rahu and sat are the planets that are reason for our

re-birth by making us to be more in materialistic thoughts and

life.If they goes to 12th from AL,native himself will not be

interested in materialistic life and will be more involved in

spritual activities.

>

> Dear Partha,

>

> You wrote,

>

> " 12th from Ak is what Soul doesnot approve of."

>

> Am i missing something here ?

>

> Could you please eloborate more on this ?

>

> i thought that 12th from AK is what the soul likes more or attached

with.Because we identify the Ista moorthy (which guides the soul ie

which the soul likes more ) only by seeing the 12th from AK.

>

> I am eagerly waiting to get any correction in my thoughts.

>

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Regards,

>

> Krithi

>

>

Lakshman Brahma <lbrahma> wrote:

> Dear all those in this thread,

> This is what I understand:

> Planets in 12 from lagna shows the actual loss or

> things that are totally foreign to one's Norm.

> Planets in 12th from AL means the ways one loses his

> materialistic things.

> 12th from AK denotes the Ishta devatha who can guide

> the native to Moksha which is the sole purpose of the

> Soul(Atma).

> Now let us analyse this wrt planets like SA, Ra in

> 12th. These planets are malefic by nature and if they

> are friendly to the native's lagna lord, by their

> placement in 12th they become benefic to the native by

> giving material things to the native. ie Native goes

> to a foreign land and earns more. If by chance these

> planets happen to be inimical to the Lagnesh, then

> they can put the native in to Jail and also The native

> dies in the foreign land after facing hardships.

> Consider the placement of these planets in 12th from

> AL. 12th from AL indicates the material loses suffered

> by the native. Placement of these planets indicates

> losses through servants, cheats, drugs etc..

> Consider the placement of these planets in 12th from

> AK. Sa indicates Varaha Murthy ( Tirupathi Balaji) and

> Ra indicated mata Durga Or Chamundi.

>

> Just verify the deities that rules these planets as I

> am not sure at this time the deity that rules Sa. I

> need to verify the books for this and apologies..

>

> Lakshman

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