Case analysis, Break from - Transit jupiter in 4th

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June 2, 2004

Dear Pradeep,

Jupiter does harm the house that it is posited in. This is not only my

views, astrological texts support this. Dual rasi lordship when one is a

dusthana and other auspicious sthana should, in my view be examined in

line with what Parashara has made abunduntaly clear. This is the

generally accepted view. Some astrologers including the Venerated Dr.

B.V. Raman hold some of the dusthanas as being neutral and have, perhaps

their own reasons to do so. The reason may be that some do not give

inimical status to Trik sthana while taking into consideration

dusthanas. I do.

My view is that for change of place, 4th and 12th house should have some

harm coming their way. 4th is not only the Matru sthana, but also of

one's own place of residence. Others more learned than me could have

different views. I would not say he would be away from his wife since

around that time saturn would be still aspecting 7th which is owned by

Saturn and as such the bhava will be Pushta. One could even say 6th and

8th lords in Lagna could give him some rise.

Analysis of a chart depends on many indications per house. Generally,

results of only one of the many indications of a house are seen to

happen. Transits, Dashas and Natal Positions have to be correlated to

arrive at the likely prediction.

This is the reason the ancient sages talked about Viveka to be used by

Jyotishi. Always remember the fact that all the houses of a horoscope

are linked to each other.Even the charts of family members impact each

other. For an event to happen, more than one of them have to be affected

in a way that one can safely say that an event is likely to happen at a

certain time.

Perhaps an example, here, would not be out of place. In an extreme case

like death of a person with serious illness, I prefer to look at his 8th

and 6th house as all do. I also look at his wife's chart to find out

whether she has a vaidhavya yoga and if available at the children's

horoscopes to find out if they have loss of father at the relevant time,

before announcing the possibility of his not surviving. If the yogas are

not there in the wife and children's charts, i prefer to say that he

will recover after the serious illness. In my experience, this has

turned out to be correct, even when the Doctors had not given more than

48 hours for the patient's survival.

Another example would be matching charts for marriage. My method is to

look at 7th as all do,2nd,12th and 5th house before I come to any

conclusions. If you look at the indications of the houses the reason

would be clear. So to sum up, try to analyse how the house under

immediate consideration is likely to be impacted by other related

houses, study the impact on them and this would lead to a fairly

accurate prediction, with the grace of the Lord.

Hope this helps,

Chandrashekhar.

vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> Dear Ramesh ji

>

> Thanks for posting this chart and your analysis.Could you kindly

> provide the major gains for the individual during Guru Dasha.

>

> Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> Similar to your Bhrashta views I have read somewhere that pandavas

> lost their kingdom when jupiter was transiting 4th(Chathurthe Pandava

> Bhrashta).Transit jupiter when in 4th in this case will be 4th from

> natal jupiter as well.Thus forming 4/10 rel with natal jupiter.Is

> that a reason for your explanation that 4th house (shift of

> residence) and 10th house (profession) will be impacted?Also jupiter

> is aspecting 10th house and 12th house from transit position.But will

> the influence of jupiter as 6th lord (12th to 7th as you have

> mentioned) keep him away from his wife (12th showing distance from

> 7th).Saturn will be conjuncting natal jupiter and aspecting 10th

> house.How should one analyse this strong influence of saturn and

> jupiter on the lagna,4th and 10th houses.6th lordship of jupiter and

> maraka lordship of saturn are puzzling.Kindly help to analyse such

> situations.

> When gochara saturn was igniting natal moon ,which was also his

> ascendant lord and the house being 12th,the individual was

> displaced.Since this moon is in gandanta the individual might had

> taken this decision out of confusion.This 7th lord saturn was

> aspecting the 9th house igniting natal saturn and 2nd house as

> well.Thus many travel and family displacement indications were

> there.Also this was in 4/10 rel with natal saturn.Now he should be

> under the influence of the last stage of sade sathi and hence health

> and money matters should be carefully dealt with the coming

> transit.Kindly correct me.

>

> General doubts.

> 9th lording forming Hamsa in ascendant should had given great gains

> in this case?Why was that not there (if there was not any)?

>

> Was that because of dispositor moon in 12th and in gandanta?Also moon

> is in 12th to jupiter the yogakaraka -Thus whatever jupiter was

> giving, gandanta moon was unable to protect fully.Moons dispositor

> mercury is also debilitated.Jupiter himself is in the beginning of

> Rashi.Thus should we assume that the strength of yoga has been

> considerably reduced?

>

> Now mercury though debilitated has attained NBRYand exalted in

> navamsha.Thus saturn who is with this NBRY karaka mercury in 9th

> (whose dispositor is also exalted) should be a good dasha?,coupled

> with maraka nature of saturn! Can Saturn-Mercury be really good?

>

> Respect

> Pradeep

> vedic astrology, "Ramesh Gangaramani"

> <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote:

> > Clear DaySatyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> >

> > Dear Srivastavaji,

> > Thank you for your appreciation. I am giving below the birth

> details.

> > DOB: 15th April 67

> > TOB: 13:18 hrs

> > POB: Irinjalakuda 24 kms from Trichur, India,

> > Co-ordinates: 76E15, 10N 30

> > Best Regards

> > Ramesh

> >

> > R.C.Srivastava [swami_rcs]

> > Wednesday, June 02, 2004 12:06 PM

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> > RCS

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June 3, 2004

Dear Chandrashekhar ji

Thanks a lot for the numerous valuable tips and knowledge shared

through your reply.

Thanks for sharing your experiences and for the detailed mail.

Now as per Paashara Rahu in karka is a karaka for power/position.Thus

can saturn be also considered as good for Cancer Lagna people

especially when placed in lagna or aspecting it? This is just a doubt

and i am tring to guess why Dr.Raman might have thought of saturn in

a different way.I have read from web sites of Shri.Sanjay Rath ji

that saturn in cancer lagna is powerful.What could be the reason - is

it because of the Rahu/Cancer explanation from Parashara combined

with Sanivat Rahu.

Respect

Pradeep

vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel>

wrote:

> Dear Pradeep,

> Jupiter does harm the house that it is posited in. This is not only

my

> views, astrological texts support this. Dual rasi lordship when one

is a

> dusthana and other auspicious sthana should, in my view be examined

in

> line with what Parashara has made abunduntaly clear. This is the

> generally accepted view. Some astrologers including the Venerated

Dr.

> B.V. Raman hold some of the dusthanas as being neutral and have,

perhaps

> their own reasons to do so. The reason may be that some do not give

> inimical status to Trik sthana while taking into consideration

> dusthanas. I do.

>

> My view is that for change of place, 4th and 12th house should have

some

> harm coming their way. 4th is not only the Matru sthana, but also

of

> one's own place of residence. Others more learned than me could

have

> different views. I would not say he would be away from his wife

since

> around that time saturn would be still aspecting 7th which is owned

by

> Saturn and as such the bhava will be Pushta. One could even say 6th

and

> 8th lords in Lagna could give him some rise.

> Analysis of a chart depends on many indications per house.

Generally,

> results of only one of the many indications of a house are seen to

> happen. Transits, Dashas and Natal Positions have to be correlated

to

> arrive at the likely prediction.

>

> This is the reason the ancient sages talked about Viveka to be used

by

> Jyotishi. Always remember the fact that all the houses of a

horoscope

> are linked to each other.Even the charts of family members impact

each

> other. For an event to happen, more than one of them have to be

affected

> in a way that one can safely say that an event is likely to happen

at a

> certain time.

>

> Perhaps an example, here, would not be out of place. In an extreme

case

> like death of a person with serious illness, I prefer to look at

his 8th

> and 6th house as all do. I also look at his wife's chart to find

out

> whether she has a vaidhavya yoga and if available at the children's

> horoscopes to find out if they have loss of father at the relevant

time,

> before announcing the possibility of his not surviving. If the

yogas are

> not there in the wife and children's charts, i prefer to say that

he

> will recover after the serious illness. In my experience, this has

> turned out to be correct, even when the Doctors had not given more

than

> 48 hours for the patient's survival.

>

> Another example would be matching charts for marriage. My method is

to

> look at 7th as all do,2nd,12th and 5th house before I come to any

> conclusions. If you look at the indications of the houses the

reason

> would be clear. So to sum up, try to analyse how the house under

> immediate consideration is likely to be impacted by other related

> houses, study the impact on them and this would lead to a fairly

> accurate prediction, with the grace of the Lord.

> Hope this helps,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> > Dear Ramesh ji

> >

> > Thanks for posting this chart and your analysis.Could you kindly

> > provide the major gains for the individual during Guru Dasha.

> >

> > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> > Similar to your Bhrashta views I have read somewhere that pandavas

> > lost their kingdom when jupiter was transiting 4th(Chathurthe

Pandava

> > Bhrashta).Transit jupiter when in 4th in this case will be 4th

from

> > natal jupiter as well.Thus forming 4/10 rel with natal jupiter.Is

> > that a reason for your explanation that 4th house (shift of

> > residence) and 10th house (profession) will be impacted?Also

jupiter

> > is aspecting 10th house and 12th house from transit position.But

will

> > the influence of jupiter as 6th lord (12th to 7th as you have

> > mentioned) keep him away from his wife (12th showing distance from

> > 7th).Saturn will be conjuncting natal jupiter and aspecting 10th

> > house.How should one analyse this strong influence of saturn and

> > jupiter on the lagna,4th and 10th houses.6th lordship of jupiter

and

> > maraka lordship of saturn are puzzling.Kindly help to analyse such

> > situations.

> > When gochara saturn was igniting natal moon ,which was also his

> > ascendant lord and the house being 12th,the individual was

> > displaced.Since this moon is in gandanta the individual might had

> > taken this decision out of confusion.This 7th lord saturn was

> > aspecting the 9th house igniting natal saturn and 2nd house as

> > well.Thus many travel and family displacement indications were

> > there.Also this was in 4/10 rel with natal saturn.Now he should be

> > under the influence of the last stage of sade sathi and hence

health

> > and money matters should be carefully dealt with the coming

> > transit.Kindly correct me.

> >

> > General doubts.

> > 9th lording forming Hamsa in ascendant should had given great

gains

> > in this case?Why was that not there (if there was not any)?

> >

> > Was that because of dispositor moon in 12th and in gandanta?Also

moon

> > is in 12th to jupiter the yogakaraka -Thus whatever jupiter was

> > giving, gandanta moon was unable to protect fully.Moons dispositor

> > mercury is also debilitated.Jupiter himself is in the beginning of

> > Rashi.Thus should we assume that the strength of yoga has been

> > considerably reduced?

> >

> > Now mercury though debilitated has attained NBRYand exalted in

> > navamsha.Thus saturn who is with this NBRY karaka mercury in 9th

> > (whose dispositor is also exalted) should be a good dasha?,coupled

> > with maraka nature of saturn! Can Saturn-Mercury be really good?

> >

> > Respect

> > Pradeep

> > vedic astrology, "Ramesh Gangaramani"

> > <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote:

> > > Clear DaySatyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> > >

> > > Dear Srivastavaji,

> > > Thank you for your appreciation. I am giving below the birth

> > details.

> > > DOB: 15th April 67

> > > TOB: 13:18 hrs

> > > POB: Irinjalakuda 24 kms from Trichur, India,

> > > Co-ordinates: 76E15, 10N 30

> > > Best Regards

> > > Ramesh

> > >

> > > R.C.Srivastava [swami_rcs]

> > > Wednesday, June 02, 2004 12:06 PM

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> > studies,

> > > immigration

> > >

> > > Dear sri ramesh ji ,Birth Data is not contained in write up.

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astrology

> > > and seeking comments of experts in the List.

> > > It will be beautiful if data is posted related to case

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> > > With best wishes.

> > > RCS

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June 3, 2004

Dear Pradeep,

Saturn posited in Cancer Lagna is a different proposition, not because

he becomes a fully benefic planet, but because he aspects his own house

Capricorn with 7th house aspect, making the 7th bhava very strong. This

could translate into cooperation from not only his spouse but large

group followers.He could also come from a family having a large

following (especially Patrilineal) and having good inheritance, since

Saturn is also lord of 8th Katweji gave great weightage to such factors,

and rightly so. Parashara's statement also has to be understood in that

perspective with regards to Rahu.

However now way could 7th lord being a Maraka could be termed a

functional benefic, is what I think.

Hope this helps,

Chandrashekhar.

vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> Thanks a lot for the numerous valuable tips and knowledge shared

> through your reply.

>

> Thanks for sharing your experiences and for the detailed mail.

>

> Now as per Paashara Rahu in karka is a karaka for power/position.Thus

> can saturn be also considered as good for Cancer Lagna people

> especially when placed in lagna or aspecting it? This is just a doubt

> and i am tring to guess why Dr.Raman might have thought of saturn in

> a different way.I have read from web sites of Shri.Sanjay Rath ji

> that saturn in cancer lagna is powerful.What could be the reason - is

> it because of the Rahu/Cancer explanation from Parashara combined

> with Sanivat Rahu.

> Respect

> Pradeep

>

> vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel>

> wrote:

> > Dear Pradeep,

> > Jupiter does harm the house that it is posited in. This is not only

> my

> > views, astrological texts support this. Dual rasi lordship when one

> is a

> > dusthana and other auspicious sthana should, in my view be examined

> in

> > line with what Parashara has made abunduntaly clear. This is the

> > generally accepted view. Some astrologers including the Venerated

> Dr.

> > B.V. Raman hold some of the dusthanas as being neutral and have,

> perhaps

> > their own reasons to do so. The reason may be that some do not give

> > inimical status to Trik sthana while taking into consideration

> > dusthanas. I do.

> >

> > My view is that for change of place, 4th and 12th house should have

> some

> > harm coming their way. 4th is not only the Matru sthana, but also

> of

> > one's own place of residence. Others more learned than me could

> have

> > different views. I would not say he would be away from his wife

> since

> > around that time saturn would be still aspecting 7th which is owned

> by

> > Saturn and as such the bhava will be Pushta. One could even say 6th

> and

> > 8th lords in Lagna could give him some rise.

> > Analysis of a chart depends on many indications per house.

> Generally,

> > results of only one of the many indications of a house are seen to

> > happen. Transits, Dashas and Natal Positions have to be correlated

> to

> > arrive at the likely prediction.

> >

> > This is the reason the ancient sages talked about Viveka to be used

> by

> > Jyotishi. Always remember the fact that all the houses of a

> horoscope

> > are linked to each other.Even the charts of family members impact

> each

> > other. For an event to happen, more than one of them have to be

> affected

> > in a way that one can safely say that an event is likely to happen

> at a

> > certain time.

> >

> > Perhaps an example, here, would not be out of place. In an extreme

> case

> > like death of a person with serious illness, I prefer to look at

> his 8th

> > and 6th house as all do. I also look at his wife's chart to find

> out

> > whether she has a vaidhavya yoga and if available at the children's

> > horoscopes to find out if they have loss of father at the relevant

> time,

> > before announcing the possibility of his not surviving. If the

> yogas are

> > not there in the wife and children's charts, i prefer to say that

> he

> > will recover after the serious illness. In my experience, this has

> > turned out to be correct, even when the Doctors had not given more

> than

> > 48 hours for the patient's survival.

> >

> > Another example would be matching charts for marriage. My method is

> to

> > look at 7th as all do,2nd,12th and 5th house before I come to any

> > conclusions. If you look at the indications of the houses the

> reason

> > would be clear. So to sum up, try to analyse how the house under

> > immediate consideration is likely to be impacted by other related

> > houses, study the impact on them and this would lead to a fairly

> > accurate prediction, with the grace of the Lord.

> > Hope this helps,

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Ramesh ji

> > >

> > > Thanks for posting this chart and your analysis.Could you kindly

> > > provide the major gains for the individual during Guru Dasha.

> > >

> > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> > > Similar to your Bhrashta views I have read somewhere that pandavas

> > > lost their kingdom when jupiter was transiting 4th(Chathurthe

> Pandava

> > > Bhrashta).Transit jupiter when in 4th in this case will be 4th

> from

> > > natal jupiter as well.Thus forming 4/10 rel with natal jupiter.Is

> > > that a reason for your explanation that 4th house (shift of

> > > residence) and 10th house (profession) will be impacted?Also

> jupiter

> > > is aspecting 10th house and 12th house from transit position.But

> will

> > > the influence of jupiter as 6th lord (12th to 7th as you have

> > > mentioned) keep him away from his wife (12th showing distance from

> > > 7th).Saturn will be conjuncting natal jupiter and aspecting 10th

> > > house.How should one analyse this strong influence of saturn and

> > > jupiter on the lagna,4th and 10th houses.6th lordship of jupiter

> and

> > > maraka lordship of saturn are puzzling.Kindly help to analyse such

> > > situations.

> > > When gochara saturn was igniting natal moon ,which was also his

> > > ascendant lord and the house being 12th,the individual was

> > > displaced.Since this moon is in gandanta the individual might had

> > > taken this decision out of confusion.This 7th lord saturn was

> > > aspecting the 9th house igniting natal saturn and 2nd house as

> > > well.Thus many travel and family displacement indications were

> > > there.Also this was in 4/10 rel with natal saturn.Now he should be

> > > under the influence of the last stage of sade sathi and hence

> health

> > > and money matters should be carefully dealt with the coming

> > > transit.Kindly correct me.

> > >

> > > General doubts.

> > > 9th lording forming Hamsa in ascendant should had given great

> gains

> > > in this case?Why was that not there (if there was not any)?

> > >

> > > Was that because of dispositor moon in 12th and in gandanta?Also

> moon

> > > is in 12th to jupiter the yogakaraka -Thus whatever jupiter was

> > > giving, gandanta moon was unable to protect fully.Moons dispositor

> > > mercury is also debilitated.Jupiter himself is in the beginning of

> > > Rashi.Thus should we assume that the strength of yoga has been

> > > considerably reduced?

> > >

> > > Now mercury though debilitated has attained NBRYand exalted in

> > > navamsha.Thus saturn who is with this NBRY karaka mercury in 9th

> > > (whose dispositor is also exalted) should be a good dasha?,coupled

> > > with maraka nature of saturn! Can Saturn-Mercury be really good?

> > >

> > > Respect

> > > Pradeep

> > > vedic astrology, "Ramesh Gangaramani"

> > > <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote:

> > > > Clear DaySatyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> > > >

> > > > Dear Srivastavaji,

> > > > Thank you for your appreciation. I am giving below the birth

> > > details.

> > > > DOB: 15th April 67

> > > > TOB: 13:18 hrs

> > > > POB: Irinjalakuda 24 kms from Trichur, India,

> > > > Co-ordinates: 76E15, 10N 30

> > > > Best Regards

> > > > Ramesh

> > > >

> > > > R.C.Srivastava [swami_rcs]

> > > > Wednesday, June 02, 2004 12:06 PM

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > Cc: ramesh.gangaramani@a...

> > > > [vedic astrology] Case analysis, Break from Career

> for

> > > studies,

> > > > immigration

> > > >

> > > > Dear sri ramesh ji ,Birth Data is not contained in write up.

> > > > I appreciate your effort in exhibiting application of

> astrology

> > > > and seeking comments of experts in the List.

> > > > It will be beautiful if data is posted related to case

> > > analysed ,if it

> > > > does not embrasses your client.Sri Saaji had also requested.

> > > > With best wishes.

> > > > RCS

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June 4, 2004

Dear Chandrashekhar ji

Thanks for your reply and explanation.

Yes I have found (you may kindly read my other posts with respect to

an example chart) that saturn in lagna as 7th lord was not good for

married/spouse relationships.

Smt .Indira Gandhi and if correct Sonia Gandhi have got this

position.And it explains their followership.But VinayPatwardhan ji

has mentioned about Abhishek Yoga.Kinldy explain if you know more.

It was interesting to note the inheritance role.So 8th house denotes

sudden gains ,inheritance,sudden difficulties etc ?If 8th lord is

aspecting 8th does it strengthen the 8th house.If numerous planets

are aspecting the 8th house along with 8th lord - what does it

signify?I have this question as my 8th house(cancer) has Ketu

aspected by 5 planets including 8th lord moon,placed in 2nd.

Respect

Pradeep

vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel>

wrote:

> Dear Pradeep,

> Saturn posited in Cancer Lagna is a different proposition, not

because

> he becomes a fully benefic planet, but because he aspects his own

house

> Capricorn with 7th house aspect, making the 7th bhava very strong.

This

> could translate into cooperation from not only his spouse but large

> group followers.He could also come from a family having a large

> following (especially Patrilineal) and having good inheritance,

since

> Saturn is also lord of 8th Katweji gave great weightage to such

factors,

> and rightly so. Parashara's statement also has to be understood in

that

> perspective with regards to Rahu.

> However now way could 7th lord being a Maraka could be termed a

> functional benefic, is what I think.

> Hope this helps,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> > Thanks a lot for the numerous valuable tips and knowledge shared

> > through your reply.

> >

> > Thanks for sharing your experiences and for the detailed mail.

> >

> > Now as per Paashara Rahu in karka is a karaka for

power/position.Thus

> > can saturn be also considered as good for Cancer Lagna people

> > especially when placed in lagna or aspecting it? This is just a

doubt

> > and i am tring to guess why Dr.Raman might have thought of saturn

in

> > a different way.I have read from web sites of Shri.Sanjay Rath ji

> > that saturn in cancer lagna is powerful.What could be the reason -

is

> > it because of the Rahu/Cancer explanation from Parashara combined

> > with Sanivat Rahu.

> > Respect

> > Pradeep

> >

> > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > Jupiter does harm the house that it is posited in. This is not

only

> > my

> > > views, astrological texts support this. Dual rasi lordship when

one

> > is a

> > > dusthana and other auspicious sthana should, in my view be

examined

> > in

> > > line with what Parashara has made abunduntaly clear. This is the

> > > generally accepted view. Some astrologers including the

Venerated

> > Dr.

> > > B.V. Raman hold some of the dusthanas as being neutral and have,

> > perhaps

> > > their own reasons to do so. The reason may be that some do not

give

> > > inimical status to Trik sthana while taking into consideration

> > > dusthanas. I do.

> > >

> > > My view is that for change of place, 4th and 12th house should

have

> > some

> > > harm coming their way. 4th is not only the Matru sthana, but

also

> > of

> > > one's own place of residence. Others more learned than me could

> > have

> > > different views. I would not say he would be away from his wife

> > since

> > > around that time saturn would be still aspecting 7th which is

owned

> > by

> > > Saturn and as such the bhava will be Pushta. One could even say

6th

> > and

> > > 8th lords in Lagna could give him some rise.

> > > Analysis of a chart depends on many indications per house.

> > Generally,

> > > results of only one of the many indications of a house are seen

to

> > > happen. Transits, Dashas and Natal Positions have to be

correlated

> > to

> > > arrive at the likely prediction.

> > >

> > > This is the reason the ancient sages talked about Viveka to be

used

> > by

> > > Jyotishi. Always remember the fact that all the houses of a

> > horoscope

> > > are linked to each other.Even the charts of family members

impact

> > each

> > > other. For an event to happen, more than one of them have to be

> > affected

> > > in a way that one can safely say that an event is likely to

happen

> > at a

> > > certain time.

> > >

> > > Perhaps an example, here, would not be out of place. In an

extreme

> > case

> > > like death of a person with serious illness, I prefer to look at

> > his 8th

> > > and 6th house as all do. I also look at his wife's chart to find

> > out

> > > whether she has a vaidhavya yoga and if available at the

children's

> > > horoscopes to find out if they have loss of father at the

relevant

> > time,

> > > before announcing the possibility of his not surviving. If the

> > yogas are

> > > not there in the wife and children's charts, i prefer to say

that

> > he

> > > will recover after the serious illness. In my experience, this

has

> > > turned out to be correct, even when the Doctors had not given

more

> > than

> > > 48 hours for the patient's survival.

> > >

> > > Another example would be matching charts for marriage. My

method is

> > to

> > > look at 7th as all do,2nd,12th and 5th house before I come to

any

> > > conclusions. If you look at the indications of the houses the

> > reason

> > > would be clear. So to sum up, try to analyse how the house under

> > > immediate consideration is likely to be impacted by other

> > > accurate prediction, with the grace of the Lord.

> > > Hope this helps,

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Ramesh ji

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for posting this chart and your analysis.Could you

kindly

> > > > provide the major gains for the individual during Guru Dasha.

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> > > > Similar to your Bhrashta views I have read somewhere that

pandavas

> > > > lost their kingdom when jupiter was transiting 4th(Chathurthe

> > Pandava

> > > > Bhrashta).Transit jupiter when in 4th in this case will be 4th

> > from

> > > > natal jupiter as well.Thus forming 4/10 rel with natal

jupiter.Is

> > > > that a reason for your explanation that 4th house (shift of

> > > > residence) and 10th house (profession) will be impacted?Also

> > jupiter

> > > > is aspecting 10th house and 12th house from transit

position.But

> > will

> > > > the influence of jupiter as 6th lord (12th to 7th as you have

> > > > mentioned) keep him away from his wife (12th showing distance

from

> > > > 7th).Saturn will be conjuncting natal jupiter and aspecting

10th

> > > > house.How should one analyse this strong influence of saturn

and

> > > > jupiter on the lagna,4th and 10th houses.6th lordship of

jupiter

> > and

> > > > maraka lordship of saturn are puzzling.Kindly help to analyse

such

> > > > situations.

> > > > When gochara saturn was igniting natal moon ,which was also

his

> > > > ascendant lord and the house being 12th,the individual was

> > > > displaced.Since this moon is in gandanta the individual might

had

> > > > taken this decision out of confusion.This 7th lord saturn was

> > > > aspecting the 9th house igniting natal saturn and 2nd house as

> > > > well.Thus many travel and family displacement indications were

> > > > there.Also this was in 4/10 rel with natal saturn.Now he

should be

> > > > under the influence of the last stage of sade sathi and hence

> > health

> > > > and money matters should be carefully dealt with the coming

> > > > transit.Kindly correct me.

> > > >

> > > > General doubts.

> > > > 9th lording forming Hamsa in ascendant should had given great

> > gains

> > > > in this case?Why was that not there (if there was not any)?

> > > >

> > > > Was that because of dispositor moon in 12th and in gandanta?

Also

> > moon

> > > > is in 12th to jupiter the yogakaraka -Thus whatever jupiter

was

> > > > giving, gandanta moon was unable to protect fully.Moons

dispositor

> > > > mercury is also debilitated.Jupiter himself is in the

beginning of

> > > > Rashi.Thus should we assume that the strength of yoga has been

> > > > considerably reduced?

> > > >

> > > > Now mercury though debilitated has attained NBRYand exalted in

> > > > navamsha.Thus saturn who is with this NBRY karaka mercury in

9th

> > > > (whose dispositor is also exalted) should be a good

dasha?,coupled

> > > > with maraka nature of saturn! Can Saturn-Mercury be really

good?

> > > >

> > > > Respect

> > > > Pradeep

> > > > vedic astrology, "Ramesh Gangaramani"

> > > > <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote:

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> > > > > TOB: 13:18 hrs

> > > > > POB: Irinjalakuda 24 kms from Trichur, India,

> > > > > Co-ordinates: 76E15, 10N 30

> > > > > Best Regards

> > > > > Ramesh

> > > > >

> > > > > R.C.Srivastava [swami_rcs]

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June 4, 2004

Dear Pradeep,

I am forwarding Native's response about Jupiter dasa. Dasa has been good except

Rahu AD. Sanjayji says that Rahu AD in Jupiter MD is usually terrible and this

case supports his views!

Kind regards

Ramesh

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

Jup MD: 1988-04-17 (09:41:19) - 2004-04-17 (12:10:15)

Antardasas in this MD:

Jup: 1988-04-17 (09:41:19) - 1990-06-06 (14:23:43)

Got employed in September 1988 had to leave home to take up job in UP

Sat: 1990-06-06 (14:23:43) - 1992-12-19 (07:53:55)

Left UP in Dec 1991 and struggled till 1994

Ket: 1995-03-24 (19:39:29) - 1996-02-29 (00:33:37)

Good period got a break in Carrier

Ven: 1996-02-29 (00:33:37) - 1998-11-02 (09:13:47)

Good period got promoted in Carrier but left to take a better job In York in Dec 1998

Sun: 1998-11-02 (09:13:47) - 1999-08-21 (05:39:58)

Good period

Moo: 1999-08-21 (05:39:58) - 2000-12-19 (09:12:27)

Good period Mar: 2000-12-19 (09:12:27) - 2001-11-25 (23:54:45)

Got promoted in 2001 to Regional svc manager. Good period

Rah: 2001-11-25 (23:54:45) - 2004-04-17 (12:10:15)

Mixed. Tough period in 2002. 2003 average decided to quit job and take up MBA.

Shifted to Melbourne in Jan 2004. Generally 2004 has been Ok but with lot of

uncertainties and anxiety. Living away from the family.

If you wish you can create space under relevant time slots for your comments.

Best Regards

Ramesh

vijayadas_pradeep

[vijayadas_pradeep ]Wednesday, June 02, 2004 6:11 PMTo:

vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Case analysis,

Break from - Transit jupiter in 4th

Dear Ramesh ji Thanks for posting this chart and your analysis.Could you kindly

provide the major gains for the individual during Guru Dasha.

June 4, 2004

Dear Pradeep,

I have not come across Abhisheka Yoga, and so it would not be correct

for me to comment on it. Vinayji is quite knowledgeable and may like to

comment on origin of Abhisheka yoga.

In so far as my personal opinion goes, yogas are like empirical formula

and should never be taken in isolation. Other factors like

aspects/conjunctions etc. of other planets and their house ownership

should be evaluated before coming to any conclusion.

Like in your case 4 planets together in one house (2nd) is Pravrajya

yoga( excluding Rahu, as he is not considered for that yoga). You might

act detached from your family for some period of time when appropriate

dasha and transit occurs, but would certainly not obtain Pravrajya. 8th

lord aspecting the 8th, no doubt strengthens the 8th house, especially

in your case where Moon does not attract Ashtamesh dosha. However the

fact that Moon is a bit weak being afflicted by Rahu has also to be

borne in mind. By the way, I do not seem to have your chart. Do send it

to me.

Chandrashekhar.

vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> Dear Chandrashekhar ji

>

> Thanks for your reply and explanation.

> Yes I have found (you may kindly read my other posts with respect to

> an example chart) that saturn in lagna as 7th lord was not good for

> married/spouse relationships.

> Smt .Indira Gandhi and if correct Sonia Gandhi have got this

> position.And it explains their followership.But VinayPatwardhan ji

> has mentioned about Abhishek Yoga.Kinldy explain if you know more.

>

> It was interesting to note the inheritance role.So 8th house denotes

> sudden gains ,inheritance,sudden difficulties etc ?If 8th lord is

> aspecting 8th does it strengthen the 8th house.If numerous planets

> are aspecting the 8th house along with 8th lord - what does it

> signify?I have this question as my 8th house(cancer) has Ketu

> aspected by 5 planets including 8th lord moon,placed in 2nd.

>

> Respect

> Pradeep

>

> vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel>

> wrote:

> > Dear Pradeep,

> > Saturn posited in Cancer Lagna is a different proposition, not

> because

> > he becomes a fully benefic planet, but because he aspects his own

> house

> > Capricorn with 7th house aspect, making the 7th bhava very strong.

> This

> > could translate into cooperation from not only his spouse but large

> > group followers.He could also come from a family having a large

> > following (especially Patrilineal) and having good inheritance,

> since

> > Saturn is also lord of 8th Katweji gave great weightage to such

> factors,

> > and rightly so. Parashara's statement also has to be understood in

> that

> > perspective with regards to Rahu.

> > However now way could 7th lord being a Maraka could be termed a

> > functional benefic, is what I think.

> > Hope this helps,

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> > > Thanks a lot for the numerous valuable tips and knowledge shared

> > > through your reply.

> > >

> > > Thanks for sharing your experiences and for the detailed mail.

> > >

> > > Now as per Paashara Rahu in karka is a karaka for

> power/position.Thus

> > > can saturn be also considered as good for Cancer Lagna people

> > > especially when placed in lagna or aspecting it? This is just a

> doubt

> > > and i am tring to guess why Dr.Raman might have thought of saturn

> in

> > > a different way.I have read from web sites of Shri.Sanjay Rath ji

> > > that saturn in cancer lagna is powerful.What could be the reason -

> is

> > > it because of the Rahu/Cancer explanation from Parashara combined

> > > with Sanivat Rahu.

> > > Respect

> > > Pradeep

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> <boxdel>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > > Jupiter does harm the house that it is posited in. This is not

> only

> > > my

> > > > views, astrological texts support this. Dual rasi lordship when

> one

> > > is a

> > > > dusthana and other auspicious sthana should, in my view be

> examined

> > > in

> > > > line with what Parashara has made abunduntaly clear. This is the

> > > > generally accepted view. Some astrologers including the

> Venerated

> > > Dr.

> > > > B.V. Raman hold some of the dusthanas as being neutral and have,

> > > perhaps

> > > > their own reasons to do so. The reason may be that some do not

> give

> > > > inimical status to Trik sthana while taking into consideration

> > > > dusthanas. I do.

> > > >

> > > > My view is that for change of place, 4th and 12th house should

> have

> > > some

> > > > harm coming their way. 4th is not only the Matru sthana, but

> also

> > > of

> > > > one's own place of residence. Others more learned than me could

> > > have

> > > > different views. I would not say he would be away from his wife

> > > since

> > > > around that time saturn would be still aspecting 7th which is

> owned

> > > by

> > > > Saturn and as such the bhava will be Pushta. One could even say

> 6th

> > > and

> > > > 8th lords in Lagna could give him some rise.

> > > > Analysis of a chart depends on many indications per house.

> > > Generally,

> > > > results of only one of the many indications of a house are seen

> to

> > > > happen. Transits, Dashas and Natal Positions have to be

> correlated

> > > to

> > > > arrive at the likely prediction.

> > > >

> > > > This is the reason the ancient sages talked about Viveka to be

> used

> > > by

> > > > Jyotishi. Always remember the fact that all the houses of a

> > > horoscope

> > > > are linked to each other.Even the charts of family members

> impact

> > > each

> > > > other. For an event to happen, more than one of them have to be

> > > affected

> > > > in a way that one can safely say that an event is likely to

> happen

> > > at a

> > > > certain time.

> > > >

> > > > Perhaps an example, here, would not be out of place. In an

> extreme

> > > case

> > > > like death of a person with serious illness, I prefer to look at

> > > his 8th

> > > > and 6th house as all do. I also look at his wife's chart to find

> > > out

> > > > whether she has a vaidhavya yoga and if available at the

> children's

> > > > horoscopes to find out if they have loss of father at the

> relevant

> > > time,

> > > > before announcing the possibility of his not surviving. If the

> > > yogas are

> > > > not there in the wife and children's charts, i prefer to say

> that

> > > he

> > > > will recover after the serious illness. In my experience, this

> has

> > > > turned out to be correct, even when the Doctors had not given

> more

> > > than

> > > > 48 hours for the patient's survival.

> > > >

> > > > Another example would be matching charts for marriage. My

> method is

> > > to

> > > > look at 7th as all do,2nd,12th and 5th house before I come to

> any

> > > > conclusions. If you look at the indications of the houses the

> > > reason

> > > > would be clear. So to sum up, try to analyse how the house under

> > > > immediate consideration is likely to be impacted by other

> related

> > > > houses, study the impact on them and this would lead to a fairly

> > > > accurate prediction, with the grace of the Lord.

> > > > Hope this helps,

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Ramesh ji

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for posting this chart and your analysis.Could you

> kindly

> > > > > provide the major gains for the individual during Guru Dasha.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> > > > > Similar to your Bhrashta views I have read somewhere that

> pandavas

> > > > > lost their kingdom when jupiter was transiting 4th(Chathurthe

> > > Pandava

> > > > > Bhrashta).Transit jupiter when in 4th in this case will be 4th

> > > from

> > > > > natal jupiter as well.Thus forming 4/10 rel with natal

> jupiter.Is

> > > > > that a reason for your explanation that 4th house (shift of

> > > > > residence) and 10th house (profession) will be impacted?Also

> > > jupiter

> > > > > is aspecting 10th house and 12th house from transit

> position.But

> > > will

> > > > > the influence of jupiter as 6th lord (12th to 7th as you have

> > > > > mentioned) keep him away from his wife (12th showing distance

> from

> > > > > 7th).Saturn will be conjuncting natal jupiter and aspecting

> 10th

> > > > > house.How should one analyse this strong influence of saturn

> and

> > > > > jupiter on the lagna,4th and 10th houses.6th lordship of

> jupiter

> > > and

> > > > > maraka lordship of saturn are puzzling.Kindly help to analyse

> such

> > > > > situations.

> > > > > When gochara saturn was igniting natal moon ,which was also

> his

> > > > > ascendant lord and the house being 12th,the individual was

> > > > > displaced.Since this moon is in gandanta the individual might

> had

> > > > > taken this decision out of confusion.This 7th lord saturn was

> > > > > aspecting the 9th house igniting natal saturn and 2nd house as

> > > > > well.Thus many travel and family displacement indications were

> > > > > there.Also this was in 4/10 rel with natal saturn.Now he

> should be

> > > > > under the influence of the last stage of sade sathi and hence

> > > health

> > > > > and money matters should be carefully dealt with the coming

> > > > > transit.Kindly correct me.

> > > > >

> > > > > General doubts.

> > > > > 9th lording forming Hamsa in ascendant should had given great

> > > gains

> > > > > in this case?Why was that not there (if there was not any)?

> > > > >

> > > > > Was that because of dispositor moon in 12th and in gandanta?

> Also

> > > moon

> > > > > is in 12th to jupiter the yogakaraka -Thus whatever jupiter

> was

> > > > > giving, gandanta moon was unable to protect fully.Moons

> dispositor

> > > > > mercury is also debilitated.Jupiter himself is in the

> beginning of

> > > > > Rashi.Thus should we assume that the strength of yoga has been

> > > > > considerably reduced?

> > > > >

> > > > > Now mercury though debilitated has attained NBRYand exalted in

> > > > > navamsha.Thus saturn who is with this NBRY karaka mercury in

> 9th

> > > > > (whose dispositor is also exalted) should be a good

> dasha?,coupled

> > > > > with maraka nature of saturn! Can Saturn-Mercury be really

> good?

> > > > >

> > > > > Respect

> > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > vedic astrology, "Ramesh Gangaramani"

> > > > > <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote:

> > > > > > Clear DaySatyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Srivastavaji,

> > > > > > Thank you for your appreciation. I am giving below the birth

> > > > > details.

> > > > > > DOB: 15th April 67

> > > > > > TOB: 13:18 hrs

> > > > > > POB: Irinjalakuda 24 kms from Trichur, India,

> > > > > > Co-ordinates: 76E15, 10N 30

> > > > > > Best Regards

> > > > > > Ramesh

> > > > > >

> > > > > > R.C.Srivastava [swami_rcs]

> > > > > > Wednesday, June 02, 2004 12:06 PM

> > > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > > Cc: ramesh.gangaramani@a...

> > > > > > [vedic astrology] Case analysis, Break from

> Career

> > > for

> > > > > studies,

> > > > > > immigration

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear sri ramesh ji ,Birth Data is not contained in write

> up.

> > > > > > I appreciate your effort in exhibiting application of

> > > astrology

> > > > > > and seeking comments of experts in the List.

> > > > > > It will be beautiful if data is posted related to case

> > > > > analysed ,if it

> > > > > > does not embrasses your client.Sri Saaji had also requested.

> > > > > > With best wishes.

> > > > > > RCS

> > > > >

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Dear Vijaydas Pradeep,

As per my knowledge, Makara is Shani's Swakshetra which is called as Eshwaramsha

and Karka is ruled by Chandra which indicates Godess Parvati.So Shani sitting in

Karka indicates He is Ardha Naareeshwara and so he is very powerful.Also this

Rashi is the exaltation sign of Guru.So he acts like Guru or the person having

Authority.In Karka, Guru is sitting over Ksheera Sagara and is indicative of

Lord Brahma.So Shani in Karka Rashi mainly at the exaltation degree of Guru

ie., 5 degrees will be very strong to give Maha Raja Yoga.

I hope this helps you.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep > wrote:

Dear Chandrashekhar jiThanks a lot for the numerous valuable tips and knowledge

shared through your reply.Thanks for sharing your experiences and for the

detailed mail.Now as per Paashara Rahu in karka is a karaka for

power/position.Thus can saturn be also considered as good for Cancer Lagna

people especially when placed in lagna or aspecting it? This is just a doubt

and i am tring to guess why Dr.Raman might have thought of saturn in a

different way.I have read from web sites of Shri.Sanjay Rath ji that saturn in

cancer lagna is powerful.What could be the reason - is it because of the

Rahu/Cancer explanation from Parashara combined with Sanivat Rahu.

RespectPradeepvedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

<boxdel> wrote:> Dear Pradeep,> Jupiter does harm the house that it

is posited in. This is not only my > views, astrological texts support this.

Dual rasi lordship when one is a > dusthana and other auspicious sthana should,

in my view be examined in > line with what Parashara has made abunduntaly clear.

This is the > generally accepted view. Some astrologers including the Venerated

Dr. > B.V. Raman hold some of the dusthanas as being neutral and have, perhaps

> their own reasons to do so. The reason may be that some do not give >

inimical status to Trik sthana while taking into consideration > dusthanas. I

do.> > My view is that for change of place, 4th and 12th house should have some

> harm coming their way. 4th is not only the Matru sthana, but also of > one's

own place of residence. Others more learned than me could have > different

views. I would not say he would be away from his wife since > around that time

saturn would be still aspecting 7th which is owned by > Saturn and as such the

bhava will be Pushta. One could even say 6th and > 8th lords in Lagna could

give him some rise.> Analysis of a chart depends on many indications per house.

Generally, > results of only one of the many indications of a house are seen to

> happen. Transits, Dashas and Natal Positions have to be correlated to >

arrive at the likely prediction.> > This is the reason the ancient sages talked

about Viveka to be used by > Jyotishi. Always remember the fact that all the

houses of a horoscope > are linked to each other.Even the charts of family

members impact each > other. For an event to happen, more than one of them have

to be affected > in a way that one can safely say that an event is likely to

happen at a > certain time.> > Perhaps an example, here, would not be

out of place. In an extreme case > like death of a person with serious illness,

I prefer to look at his 8th > and 6th house as all do. I also look at his

wife's chart to find out > whether she has a vaidhavya yoga and if available at

the children's > horoscopes to find out if they have loss of father at the

relevant time, > before announcing the possibility of his not surviving. If the

yogas are > not there in the wife and children's charts, i prefer to say that he

> will recover after the serious illness. In my experience, this has > turned

out to be correct, even when the Doctors had not given more than > 48 hours for

the patient's survival.> > Another example would be matching charts for

marriage. My method is to > look at 7th as all do,2nd,12th and 5th house before

I come to any > conclusions. If you look at the indications of the houses the

reason

> would be clear. So to sum up, try to analyse how the house under > immediate

consideration is likely to be impacted by other related > houses, study the

impact on them and this would lead to a fairly > accurate prediction, with the

grace of the Lord.> Hope this helps,> Chandrashekhar.> > vijayadas_pradeep

wrote:> > > Dear Ramesh ji> >> > Thanks for posting this chart and your

analysis.Could you kindly> > provide the major gains for the individual during

Guru Dasha.> >> > Dear Chandrashekhar ji> > Similar to your Bhrashta views I

have read somewhere that pandavas> > lost their kingdom when jupiter was

transiting 4th(Chathurthe Pandava> > Bhrashta).Transit jupiter when in 4th in

this case will be 4th from> > natal jupiter as well.Thus forming 4/10 rel with

natal jupiter.Is> > that a reason for your

explanation that 4th house (shift of> > residence) and 10th house (profession)

will be impacted?Also jupiter> > is aspecting 10th house and 12th house from

transit position.But will> > the influence of jupiter as 6th lord (12th to 7th

as you have> > mentioned) keep him away from his wife (12th showing distance

from> > 7th).Saturn will be conjuncting natal jupiter and aspecting 10th> >

house.How should one analyse this strong influence of saturn and> > jupiter on

the lagna,4th and 10th houses.6th lordship of jupiter and> > maraka lordship of

saturn are puzzling.Kindly help to analyse such> > situations.> > When gochara

saturn was igniting natal moon ,which was also his> > ascendant lord and the

house being 12th,the individual was> > displaced.Since this moon is in gandanta

the individual might had> > taken this decision out of confusion.This

7th lord saturn was> > aspecting the 9th house igniting natal saturn and 2nd

house as> > well.Thus many travel and family displacement indications were> >

there.Also this was in 4/10 rel with natal saturn.Now he should be> > under the

influence of the last stage of sade sathi and hence health> > and money matters

should be carefully dealt with the coming> > transit.Kindly correct me.> >> >

General doubts.> > 9th lording forming Hamsa in ascendant should had given

great gains> > in this case?Why was that not there (if there was not any)?> >>

> Was that because of dispositor moon in 12th and in gandanta?Also moon> > is

in 12th to jupiter the yogakaraka -Thus whatever jupiter was> > giving,

gandanta moon was unable to protect fully.Moons dispositor> > mercury is also

debilitated.Jupiter himself is in the beginning of>

> Rashi.Thus should we assume that the strength of yoga has been> > considerably

reduced?> >> > Now mercury though debilitated has attained NBRYand exalted in> >

navamsha.Thus saturn who is with this NBRY karaka mercury in 9th> > (whose

dispositor is also exalted) should be a good dasha?,coupled> > with maraka

nature of saturn! Can Saturn-Mercury be really good?> >> > Respect> > Pradeep>

> vedic astrology, "Ramesh Gangaramani"> >

<ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote:> > > Clear DaySatyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> >

>> > > Dear Srivastavaji,> > > Thank you for your appreciation. I am giving

below the birth> > details.> > > DOB: 15th April 67> > > TOB: 13:18 hrs> > >

POB: Irinjalakuda 24 kms from Trichur, India,> > > Co-ordinates: 76E15, 10N

30> > > Best Regards> > > Ramesh> > > > > >

R.C.Srivastava [swami_rcs]> > > Wednesday, June 02, 2004

12:06 PM> > > vedic astrology> > > Cc:

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Dear Chandrashekhar ji

Ramadas ji has mentioned today about shanis importance in karka.

I have understood the essence of yogas as you have conveyed the

empirical nature of yogas many times.Thanks a lot.

I have read from your mails to the list that a full moon would

strenghten its house than a waning one as in my case.I was born on

krishna trayodashi and hence weak in paksha bala.Rahu is 8 degrees

away but still eclipsing moon.Moon is vargottama,may be this helps a

bit.

What is your opinion regarding considering 9th house of ladies for

child matters.

I will send my chart to you.

Respect

Pradeep

vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel>

wrote:

> Dear Pradeep,

> I have not come across Abhisheka Yoga, and so it would not be

correct

> for me to comment on it. Vinayji is quite knowledgeable and may

like to

> comment on origin of Abhisheka yoga.

> In so far as my personal opinion goes, yogas are like empirical

formula

> and should never be taken in isolation. Other factors like

> aspects/conjunctions etc. of other planets and their house

ownership

> should be evaluated before coming to any conclusion.

> Like in your case 4 planets together in one house (2nd) is

Pravrajya

> yoga( excluding Rahu, as he is not considered for that yoga). You

might

> act detached from your family for some period of time when

appropriate

> dasha and transit occurs, but would certainly not obtain

Pravrajya. 8th

> lord aspecting the 8th, no doubt strengthens the 8th house,

especially

> in your case where Moon does not attract Ashtamesh dosha. However

the

> fact that Moon is a bit weak being afflicted by Rahu has also to

be

> borne in mind. By the way, I do not seem to have your chart. Do

send it

> to me.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> >

> > Thanks for your reply and explanation.

> > Yes I have found (you may kindly read my other posts with

respect to

> > an example chart) that saturn in lagna as 7th lord was not good

for

> > married/spouse relationships.

> > Smt .Indira Gandhi and if correct Sonia Gandhi have got this

> > position.And it explains their followership.But VinayPatwardhan

ji

> > has mentioned about Abhishek Yoga.Kinldy explain if you know

more.

> >

> > It was interesting to note the inheritance role.So 8th house

denotes

> > sudden gains ,inheritance,sudden difficulties etc ?If 8th lord is

> > aspecting 8th does it strengthen the 8th house.If numerous

planets

> > are aspecting the 8th house along with 8th lord - what does it

> > signify?I have this question as my 8th house(cancer) has Ketu

> > aspected by 5 planets including 8th lord moon,placed in 2nd.

> >

> > Respect

> > Pradeep

> >

> > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > Saturn posited in Cancer Lagna is a different proposition, not

> > because

> > > he becomes a fully benefic planet, but because he aspects his

own

> > house

> > > Capricorn with 7th house aspect, making the 7th bhava very

strong.

> > This

> > > could translate into cooperation from not only his spouse but

large

> > > group followers.He could also come from a family having a large

> > > following (especially Patrilineal) and having good inheritance,

> > since

> > > Saturn is also lord of 8th Katweji gave great weightage to such

> > factors,

> > > and rightly so. Parashara's statement also has to be

understood in

> > that

> > > perspective with regards to Rahu.

> > > However now way could 7th lord being a Maraka could be termed a

> > > functional benefic, is what I think.

> > > Hope this helps,

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> > > > Thanks a lot for the numerous valuable tips and knowledge

shared

> > > > through your reply.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for sharing your experiences and for the detailed

mail.

> > > >

> > > > Now as per Paashara Rahu in karka is a karaka for

> > power/position.Thus

> > > > can saturn be also considered as good for Cancer Lagna people

> > > > especially when placed in lagna or aspecting it? This is

just a

> > doubt

> > > > and i am tring to guess why Dr.Raman might have thought of

saturn

> > in

> > > > a different way.I have read from web sites of Shri.Sanjay

Rath ji

> > > > that saturn in cancer lagna is powerful.What could be the

reason -

> > is

> > > > it because of the Rahu/Cancer explanation from Parashara

combined

> > > > with Sanivat Rahu.

> > > > Respect

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> > <boxdel>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > > > Jupiter does harm the house that it is posited in. This is

not

> > only

> > > > my

> > > > > views, astrological texts support this. Dual rasi lordship

when

> > one

> > > > is a

> > > > > dusthana and other auspicious sthana should, in my view be

> > examined

> > > > in

> > > > > line with what Parashara has made abunduntaly clear. This

is the

> > > > > generally accepted view. Some astrologers including the

> > Venerated

> > > > Dr.

> > > > > B.V. Raman hold some of the dusthanas as being neutral and

have,

> > > > perhaps

> > > > > their own reasons to do so. The reason may be that some do

not

> > give

> > > > > inimical status to Trik sthana while taking into

consideration

> > > > > dusthanas. I do.

> > > > >

> > > > > My view is that for change of place, 4th and 12th house

should

> > have

> > > > some

> > > > > harm coming their way. 4th is not only the Matru sthana,

but

> > also

> > > > of

> > > > > one's own place of residence. Others more learned than me

could

> > > > have

> > > > > different views. I would not say he would be away from his

wife

> > > > since

> > > > > around that time saturn would be still aspecting 7th which

is

> > owned

> > > > by

> > > > > Saturn and as such the bhava will be Pushta. One could

even say

> > 6th

> > > > and

> > > > > 8th lords in Lagna could give him some rise.

> > > > > Analysis of a chart depends on many indications per house.

> > > > Generally,

> > > > > results of only one of the many indications of a house are

seen

> > to

> > > > > happen. Transits, Dashas and Natal Positions have to be

> > correlated

> > > > to

> > > > > arrive at the likely prediction.

> > > > >

> > > > > This is the reason the ancient sages talked about Viveka

to be

> > used

> > > > by

> > > > > Jyotishi. Always remember the fact that all the houses of

a

> > > > horoscope

> > > > > are linked to each other.Even the charts of family members

> > impact

> > > > each

> > > > > other. For an event to happen, more than one of them have

to be

> > > > affected

> > > > > in a way that one can safely say that an event is likely to

> > happen

> > > > at a

> > > > > certain time.

> > > > >

> > > > > Perhaps an example, here, would not be out of place. In an

> > extreme

> > > > case

> > > > > like death of a person with serious illness, I prefer to

look at

> > > > his 8th

> > > > > and 6th house as all do. I also look at his wife's chart

to find

> > > > out

> > > > > whether she has a vaidhavya yoga and if available at the

> > children's

> > > > > horoscopes to find out if they have loss of father at the

> > relevant

> > > > time,

> > > > > before announcing the possibility of his not surviving. If

the

> > > > yogas are

> > > > > not there in the wife and children's charts, i prefer to

say

> > that

> > > > he

> > > > > will recover after the serious illness. In my experience,

this

> > has

> > > > > turned out to be correct, even when the Doctors had not

given

> > more

> > > > than

> > > > > 48 hours for the patient's survival.

> > > > >

> > > > > Another example would be matching charts for marriage. My

> > method is

> > > > to

> > > > > look at 7th as all do,2nd,12th and 5th house before I come

to

> > any

> > > > > conclusions. If you look at the indications of the houses

the

> > > > reason

> > > > > would be clear. So to sum up, try to analyse how the house

under

> > > > > immediate consideration is likely to be impacted by other

> > related

> > > > > houses, study the impact on them and this would lead to a

fairly

> > > > > accurate prediction, with the grace of the Lord.

> > > > > Hope this helps,

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >

> > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ramesh ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for posting this chart and your analysis.Could you

> > kindly

> > > > > > provide the major gains for the individual during Guru

Dasha.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> > > > > > Similar to your Bhrashta views I have read somewhere that

> > pandavas

> > > > > > lost their kingdom when jupiter was transiting 4th

(Chathurthe

> > > > Pandava

> > > > > > Bhrashta).Transit jupiter when in 4th in this case will

be 4th

> > > > from

> > > > > > natal jupiter as well.Thus forming 4/10 rel with natal

> > jupiter.Is

> > > > > > that a reason for your explanation that 4th house (shift

of

> > > > > > residence) and 10th house (profession) will be impacted?

Also

> > > > jupiter

> > > > > > is aspecting 10th house and 12th house from transit

> > position.But

> > > > will

> > > > > > the influence of jupiter as 6th lord (12th to 7th as you

have

> > > > > > mentioned) keep him away from his wife (12th showing

distance

> > from

> > > > > > 7th).Saturn will be conjuncting natal jupiter and

aspecting

> > 10th

> > > > > > house.How should one analyse this strong influence of

saturn

> > and

> > > > > > jupiter on the lagna,4th and 10th houses.6th lordship of

> > jupiter

> > > > and

> > > > > > maraka lordship of saturn are puzzling.Kindly help to

analyse

> > such

> > > > > > situations.

> > > > > > When gochara saturn was igniting natal moon ,which was

also

> > his

> > > > > > ascendant lord and the house being 12th,the individual

was

> > > > > > displaced.Since this moon is in gandanta the individual

might

> > had

> > > > > > taken this decision out of confusion.This 7th lord

saturn was

> > > > > > aspecting the 9th house igniting natal saturn and 2nd

house as

> > > > > > well.Thus many travel and family displacement

indications were

> > > > > > there.Also this was in 4/10 rel with natal saturn.Now he

> > should be

> > > > > > under the influence of the last stage of sade sathi and

hence

> > > > health

> > > > > > and money matters should be carefully dealt with the

coming

> > > > > > transit.Kindly correct me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > General doubts.

> > > > > > 9th lording forming Hamsa in ascendant should had given

great

> > > > gains

> > > > > > in this case?Why was that not there (if there was not

any)?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Was that because of dispositor moon in 12th and in

gandanta?

> > Also

> > > > moon

> > > > > > is in 12th to jupiter the yogakaraka -Thus whatever

jupiter

> > was

> > > > > > giving, gandanta moon was unable to protect fully.Moons

> > dispositor

> > > > > > mercury is also debilitated.Jupiter himself is in the

> > beginning of

> > > > > > Rashi.Thus should we assume that the strength of yoga

has been

> > > > > > considerably reduced?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now mercury though debilitated has attained NBRYand

exalted in

> > > > > > navamsha.Thus saturn who is with this NBRY karaka

mercury in

> > 9th

> > > > > > (whose dispositor is also exalted) should be a good

> > dasha?,coupled

> > > > > > with maraka nature of saturn! Can Saturn-Mercury be

really

> > good?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respect

> > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > vedic astrology, "Ramesh

Gangaramani"

> > > > > > <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote:

> > > > > > > Clear DaySatyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Srivastavaji,

> > > > > > > Thank you for your appreciation. I am giving below the

birth

> > > > > > details.

> > > > > > > DOB: 15th April 67

> > > > > > > TOB: 13:18 hrs

> > > > > > > POB: Irinjalakuda 24 kms from Trichur, India,

> > > > > > > Co-ordinates: 76E15, 10N 30

> > > > > > > Best Regards

> > > > > > > Ramesh

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > R.C.Srivastava [swami_rcs]

> > > > > > > Wednesday, June 02, 2004 12:06 PM

> > > > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > > > Cc: ramesh.gangaramani@a...

> > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Case analysis, Break from

> > Career

> > > > for

> > > > > > studies,

> > > > > > > immigration

> > > > > > >

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write

> > up.

> > > > > > > I appreciate your effort in exhibiting application of

> > > > astrology

> > > > > > > and seeking comments of experts in the List.

> > > > > > > It will be beautiful if data is posted related to

case

> > > > > > analysed ,if it

> > > > > > > does not embrasses your client.Sri Saaji had also

requested.

> > > > > > > With best wishes.

> > > > > > > RCS

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June 5, 2004

Dear Ramadas ji

I remember reading this eshwaramsha analysis from you sometime

back,sorry for forgetting that.Ksheerasagara and similar analysis i

beleive is from nadi astrology.Thanks a lot.

In this chart i have observed after your mail that shani is sitting

at 4 degrees almost near to exaltation degree.

Hope to learn more regarding this after your holidays.Wishing you

all the best.

Respect

Pradeep

vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

<ramadasrao> wrote:

>

> ` nmae naray[ay,

>

> om namo näräyaëäya|

> Dear Vijaydas Pradeep,

> As per my knowledge, Makara is Shani's Swakshetra which is called

as Eshwaramsha and Karka is ruled by Chandra which indicates Godess

Parvati.So Shani sitting in Karka indicates He is Ardha Naareeshwara

and so he is very powerful.Also this Rashi is the exaltation sign of

Guru.So he acts like Guru or the person having Authority.In Karka,

Guru is sitting over Ksheera Sagara and is indicative of Lord

Brahma.So Shani in Karka Rashi mainly at the exaltation degree of

Guru ie., 5 degrees will be very strong to give Maha Raja Yoga.

> I hope this helps you.

> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> Ramadas Rao.

>

> vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> Thanks a lot for the numerous valuable tips and knowledge shared

> through your reply.

>

> Thanks for sharing your experiences and for the detailed mail.

>

> Now as per Paashara Rahu in karka is a karaka for

power/position.Thus

> can saturn be also considered as good for Cancer Lagna people

> especially when placed in lagna or aspecting it? This is just a

doubt

> and i am tring to guess why Dr.Raman might have thought of saturn

in

> a different way.I have read from web sites of Shri.Sanjay Rath ji

> that saturn in cancer lagna is powerful.What could be the reason -

is

> it because of the Rahu/Cancer explanation from Parashara combined

> with Sanivat Rahu.

> Respect

> Pradeep

>

> vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> wrote:

> > Dear Pradeep,

> > Jupiter does harm the house that it is posited in. This is not

only

> my

> > views, astrological texts support this. Dual rasi lordship when

one

> is a

> > dusthana and other auspicious sthana should, in my view be

examined

> in

> > line with what Parashara has made abunduntaly clear. This is the

> > generally accepted view. Some astrologers including the

Venerated

> Dr.

> > B.V. Raman hold some of the dusthanas as being neutral and have,

> perhaps

> > their own reasons to do so. The reason may be that some do not

give

> > inimical status to Trik sthana while taking into consideration

> > dusthanas. I do.

> >

> > My view is that for change of place, 4th and 12th house should

have

> some

> > harm coming their way. 4th is not only the Matru sthana, but

also

> of

> > one's own place of residence. Others more learned than me could

> have

> > different views. I would not say he would be away from his wife

> since

> > around that time saturn would be still aspecting 7th which is

owned

> by

> > Saturn and as such the bhava will be Pushta. One could even say

6th

> and

> > 8th lords in Lagna could give him some rise.

> > Analysis of a chart depends on many indications per house.

> Generally,

> > results of only one of the many indications of a house are seen

to

> > happen. Transits, Dashas and Natal Positions have to be

correlated

> to

> > arrive at the likely prediction.

> >

> > This is the reason the ancient sages talked about Viveka to be

used

> by

> > Jyotishi. Always remember the fact that all the houses of a

> horoscope

> > are linked to each other.Even the charts of family members

impact

> each

> > other. For an event to happen, more than one of them have to be

> affected

> > in a way that one can safely say that an event is likely to

happen

> at a

> > certain time.

> >

> > Perhaps an example, here, would not be out of place. In an

extreme

> case

> > like death of a person with serious illness, I prefer to look at

> his 8th

> > and 6th house as all do. I also look at his wife's chart to find

> out

> > whether she has a vaidhavya yoga and if available at the

children's

> > horoscopes to find out if they have loss of father at the

relevant

> time,

> > before announcing the possibility of his not surviving. If the

> yogas are

> > not there in the wife and children's charts, i prefer to say

that

> he

> > will recover after the serious illness. In my experience, this

has

> > turned out to be correct, even when the Doctors had not given

more

> than

> > 48 hours for the patient's survival.

> >

> > Another example would be matching charts for marriage. My method

is

> to

> > look at 7th as all do,2nd,12th and 5th house before I come to

any

> > conclusions. If you look at the indications of the houses the

> reason

> > would be clear. So to sum up, try to analyse how the house under

> > immediate consideration is likely to be impacted by other

> > accurate prediction, with the grace of the Lord.

> > Hope this helps,

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Ramesh ji

> > >

> > > Thanks for posting this chart and your analysis.Could you

kindly

> > > provide the major gains for the individual during Guru Dasha.

> > >

> > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> > > Similar to your Bhrashta views I have read somewhere that

pandavas

> > > lost their kingdom when jupiter was transiting 4th(Chathurthe

> Pandava

> > > Bhrashta).Transit jupiter when in 4th in this case will be 4th

> from

> > > natal jupiter as well.Thus forming 4/10 rel with natal

jupiter.Is

> > > that a reason for your explanation that 4th house (shift of

> > > residence) and 10th house (profession) will be impacted?Also

> jupiter

> > > is aspecting 10th house and 12th house from transit

position.But

> will

> > > the influence of jupiter as 6th lord (12th to 7th as you have

> > > mentioned) keep him away from his wife (12th showing distance

from

> > > 7th).Saturn will be conjuncting natal jupiter and aspecting

10th

> > > house.How should one analyse this strong influence of saturn

and

> > > jupiter on the lagna,4th and 10th houses.6th lordship of

jupiter

> and

> > > maraka lordship of saturn are puzzling.Kindly help to analyse

such

> > > situations.

> > > When gochara saturn was igniting natal moon ,which was also his

> > > ascendant lord and the house being 12th,the individual was

> > > displaced.Since this moon is in gandanta the individual might

had

> > > taken this decision out of confusion.This 7th lord saturn was

> > > aspecting the 9th house igniting natal saturn and 2nd house as

> > > well.Thus many travel and family displacement indications were

> > > there.Also this was in 4/10 rel with natal saturn.Now he

should be

> > > under the influence of the last stage of sade sathi and hence

> health

> > > and money matters should be carefully dealt with the coming

> > > transit.Kindly correct me.

> > >

> > > General doubts.

> > > 9th lording forming Hamsa in ascendant should had given great

> gains

> > > in this case?Why was that not there (if there was not any)?

> > >

> > > Was that because of dispositor moon in 12th and in gandanta?

Also

> moon

> > > is in 12th to jupiter the yogakaraka -Thus whatever jupiter was

> > > giving, gandanta moon was unable to protect fully.Moons

dispositor

> > > mercury is also debilitated.Jupiter himself is in the

beginning of

> > > Rashi.Thus should we assume that the strength of yoga has been

> > > considerably reduced?

> > >

> > > Now mercury though debilitated has attained NBRYand exalted in

> > > navamsha.Thus saturn who is with this NBRY karaka mercury in

9th

> > > (whose dispositor is also exalted) should be a good

dasha?,coupled

> > > with maraka nature of saturn! Can Saturn-Mercury be really

good?

> > >

> > > Respect

> > > Pradeep

> > > vedic astrology, "Ramesh Gangaramani"

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June 5, 2004

Dear Pradeep,

In case of Moon pakshabala is no doubt of great importance. Vargottama

planet also does have strength and needs special status to be accorded

it. Rahu with greater longitude than Moon is more problematic than with

lesser Longitude than Moon's longitude. Remember that Rahu moves apasavya.

If I remember right, Stree Jataka does suggest taking 9th house for

Ladies for consideration of progeny. There are different views on the

subject including reverse counting for even Lagna. Actually 9th being in

trines to 5th analysis would remain some what identical, is the way I

think. Personally, I count 5th for progeny in natal but use regular and

reverse for Odd and even rasi Lagna in Saptamsha.

By the way, Maansaagari describes effects of Saturn in Cancer quite to

the point.

Hope this helps,

Chandrashekhar.

vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> Dear Chandrashekhar ji

>

> Ramadas ji has mentioned today about shanis importance in karka.

> I have understood the essence of yogas as you have conveyed the

> empirical nature of yogas many times.Thanks a lot.

>

> I have read from your mails to the list that a full moon would

> strenghten its house than a waning one as in my case.I was born on

> krishna trayodashi and hence weak in paksha bala.Rahu is 8 degrees

> away but still eclipsing moon.Moon is vargottama,may be this helps a

> bit.

>

> What is your opinion regarding considering 9th house of ladies for

> child matters.

>

> I will send my chart to you.

>

> Respect

> Pradeep

>

> vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel>

> wrote:

> > Dear Pradeep,

> > I have not come across Abhisheka Yoga, and so it would not be

> correct

> > for me to comment on it. Vinayji is quite knowledgeable and may

> like to

> > comment on origin of Abhisheka yoga.

> > In so far as my personal opinion goes, yogas are like empirical

> formula

> > and should never be taken in isolation. Other factors like

> > aspects/conjunctions etc. of other planets and their house

> ownership

> > should be evaluated before coming to any conclusion.

> > Like in your case 4 planets together in one house (2nd) is

> Pravrajya

> > yoga( excluding Rahu, as he is not considered for that yoga). You

> might

> > act detached from your family for some period of time when

> appropriate

> > dasha and transit occurs, but would certainly not obtain

> Pravrajya. 8th

> > lord aspecting the 8th, no doubt strengthens the 8th house,

> especially

> > in your case where Moon does not attract Ashtamesh dosha. However

> the

> > fact that Moon is a bit weak being afflicted by Rahu has also to

> be

> > borne in mind. By the way, I do not seem to have your chart. Do

> send it

> > to me.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> > >

> > > Thanks for your reply and explanation.

> > > Yes I have found (you may kindly read my other posts with

> respect to

> > > an example chart) that saturn in lagna as 7th lord was not good

> for

> > > married/spouse relationships.

> > > Smt .Indira Gandhi and if correct Sonia Gandhi have got this

> > > position.And it explains their followership.But VinayPatwardhan

> ji

> > > has mentioned about Abhishek Yoga.Kinldy explain if you know

> more.

> > >

> > > It was interesting to note the inheritance role.So 8th house

> denotes

> > > sudden gains ,inheritance,sudden difficulties etc ?If 8th lord is

> > > aspecting 8th does it strengthen the 8th house.If numerous

> planets

> > > are aspecting the 8th house along with 8th lord - what does it

> > > signify?I have this question as my 8th house(cancer) has Ketu

> > > aspected by 5 planets including 8th lord moon,placed in 2nd.

> > >

> > > Respect

> > > Pradeep

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> <boxdel>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > > Saturn posited in Cancer Lagna is a different proposition, not

> > > because

> > > > he becomes a fully benefic planet, but because he aspects his

> own

> > > house

> > > > Capricorn with 7th house aspect, making the 7th bhava very

> strong.

> > > This

> > > > could translate into cooperation from not only his spouse but

> large

> > > > group followers.He could also come from a family having a large

> > > > following (especially Patrilineal) and having good inheritance,

> > > since

> > > > Saturn is also lord of 8th Katweji gave great weightage to such

> > > factors,

> > > > and rightly so. Parashara's statement also has to be

> understood in

> > > that

> > > > perspective with regards to Rahu.

> > > > However now way could 7th lord being a Maraka could be termed a

> > > > functional benefic, is what I think.

> > > > Hope this helps,

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> > > > > Thanks a lot for the numerous valuable tips and knowledge

> shared

> > > > > through your reply.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for sharing your experiences and for the detailed

> mail.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now as per Paashara Rahu in karka is a karaka for

> > > power/position.Thus

> > > > > can saturn be also considered as good for Cancer Lagna people

> > > > > especially when placed in lagna or aspecting it? This is

> just a

> > > doubt

> > > > > and i am tring to guess why Dr.Raman might have thought of

> saturn

> > > in

> > > > > a different way.I have read from web sites of Shri.Sanjay

> Rath ji

> > > > > that saturn in cancer lagna is powerful.What could be the

> reason -

> > > is

> > > > > it because of the Rahu/Cancer explanation from Parashara

> combined

> > > > > with Sanivat Rahu.

> > > > > Respect

> > > > > Pradeep

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> > > <boxdel>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > > > > Jupiter does harm the house that it is posited in. This is

> not

> > > only

> > > > > my

> > > > > > views, astrological texts support this. Dual rasi lordship

> when

> > > one

> > > > > is a

> > > > > > dusthana and other auspicious sthana should, in my view be

> > > examined

> > > > > in

> > > > > > line with what Parashara has made abunduntaly clear. This

> is the

> > > > > > generally accepted view. Some astrologers including the

> > > Venerated

> > > > > Dr.

> > > > > > B.V. Raman hold some of the dusthanas as being neutral and

> have,

> > > > > perhaps

> > > > > > their own reasons to do so. The reason may be that some do

> not

> > > give

> > > > > > inimical status to Trik sthana while taking into

> consideration

> > > > > > dusthanas. I do.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My view is that for change of place, 4th and 12th house

> should

> > > have

> > > > > some

> > > > > > harm coming their way. 4th is not only the Matru sthana,

> but

> > > also

> > > > > of

> > > > > > one's own place of residence. Others more learned than me

> could

> > > > > have

> > > > > > different views. I would not say he would be away from his

> wife

> > > > > since

> > > > > > around that time saturn would be still aspecting 7th which

> is

> > > owned

> > > > > by

> > > > > > Saturn and as such the bhava will be Pushta. One could

> even say

> > > 6th

> > > > > and

> > > > > > 8th lords in Lagna could give him some rise.

> > > > > > Analysis of a chart depends on many indications per house.

> > > > > Generally,

> > > > > > results of only one of the many indications of a house are

> seen

> > > to

> > > > > > happen. Transits, Dashas and Natal Positions have to be

> > > correlated

> > > > > to

> > > > > > arrive at the likely prediction.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This is the reason the ancient sages talked about Viveka

> to be

> > > used

> > > > > by

> > > > > > Jyotishi. Always remember the fact that all the houses of

> a

> > > > > horoscope

> > > > > > are linked to each other.Even the charts of family members

> > > impact

> > > > > each

> > > > > > other. For an event to happen, more than one of them have

> to be

> > > > > affected

> > > > > > in a way that one can safely say that an event is likely to

> > > happen

> > > > > at a

> > > > > > certain time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Perhaps an example, here, would not be out of place. In an

> > > extreme

> > > > > case

> > > > > > like death of a person with serious illness, I prefer to

> look at

> > > > > his 8th

> > > > > > and 6th house as all do. I also look at his wife's chart

> to find

> > > > > out

> > > > > > whether she has a vaidhavya yoga and if available at the

> > > children's

> > > > > > horoscopes to find out if they have loss of father at the

> > > relevant

> > > > > time,

> > > > > > before announcing the possibility of his not surviving. If

> the

> > > > > yogas are

> > > > > > not there in the wife and children's charts, i prefer to

> say

> > > that

> > > > > he

> > > > > > will recover after the serious illness. In my experience,

> this

> > > has

> > > > > > turned out to be correct, even when the Doctors had not

> given

> > > more

> > > > > than

> > > > > > 48 hours for the patient's survival.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Another example would be matching charts for marriage. My

> > > method is

> > > > > to

> > > > > > look at 7th as all do,2nd,12th and 5th house before I come

> to

> > > any

> > > > > > conclusions. If you look at the indications of the houses

> the

> > > > > reason

> > > > > > would be clear. So to sum up, try to analyse how the house

> under

> > > > > > immediate consideration is likely to be impacted by other

> > > related

> > > > > > houses, study the impact on them and this would lead to a

> fairly

> > > > > > accurate prediction, with the grace of the Lord.

> > > > > > Hope this helps,

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ramesh ji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for posting this chart and your analysis.Could you

> > > kindly

> > > > > > > provide the major gains for the individual during Guru

> Dasha.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> > > > > > > Similar to your Bhrashta views I have read somewhere that

> > > pandavas

> > > > > > > lost their kingdom when jupiter was transiting 4th

> (Chathurthe

> > > > > Pandava

> > > > > > > Bhrashta).Transit jupiter when in 4th in this case will

> be 4th

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > natal jupiter as well.Thus forming 4/10 rel with natal

> > > jupiter.Is

> > > > > > > that a reason for your explanation that 4th house (shift

> of

> > > > > > > residence) and 10th house (profession) will be impacted?

> Also

> > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > is aspecting 10th house and 12th house from transit

> > > position.But

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > the influence of jupiter as 6th lord (12th to 7th as you

> have

> > > > > > > mentioned) keep him away from his wife (12th showing

> distance

> > > from

> > > > > > > 7th).Saturn will be conjuncting natal jupiter and

> aspecting

> > > 10th

> > > > > > > house.How should one analyse this strong influence of

> saturn

> > > and

> > > > > > > jupiter on the lagna,4th and 10th houses.6th lordship of

> > > jupiter

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > maraka lordship of saturn are puzzling.Kindly help to

> analyse

> > > such

> > > > > > > situations.

> > > > > > > When gochara saturn was igniting natal moon ,which was

> also

> > > his

> > > > > > > ascendant lord and the house being 12th,the individual

> was

> > > > > > > displaced.Since this moon is in gandanta the individual

> might

> > > had

> > > > > > > taken this decision out of confusion.This 7th lord

> saturn was

> > > > > > > aspecting the 9th house igniting natal saturn and 2nd

> house as

> > > > > > > well.Thus many travel and family displacement

> indications were

> > > > > > > there.Also this was in 4/10 rel with natal saturn.Now he

> > > should be

> > > > > > > under the influence of the last stage of sade sathi and

> hence

> > > > > health

> > > > > > > and money matters should be carefully dealt with the

> coming

> > > > > > > transit.Kindly correct me.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > General doubts.

> > > > > > > 9th lording forming Hamsa in ascendant should had given

> great

> > > > > gains

> > > > > > > in this case?Why was that not there (if there was not

> any)?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Was that because of dispositor moon in 12th and in

> gandanta?

> > > Also

> > > > > moon

> > > > > > > is in 12th to jupiter the yogakaraka -Thus whatever

> jupiter

> > > was

> > > > > > > giving, gandanta moon was unable to protect fully.Moons

> > > dispositor

> > > > > > > mercury is also debilitated.Jupiter himself is in the

> > > beginning of

> > > > > > > Rashi.Thus should we assume that the strength of yoga

> has been

> > > > > > > considerably reduced?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now mercury though debilitated has attained NBRYand

> exalted in

> > > > > > > navamsha.Thus saturn who is with this NBRY karaka

> mercury in

> > > 9th

> > > > > > > (whose dispositor is also exalted) should be a good

> > > dasha?,coupled

> > > > > > > with maraka nature of saturn! Can Saturn-Mercury be

> really

> > > good?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respect

> > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Ramesh

> Gangaramani"

> > > > > > > <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Clear DaySatyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Srivastavaji,

> > > > > > > > Thank you for your appreciation. I am giving below the

> birth

> > > > > > > details.

> > > > > > > > DOB: 15th April 67

> > > > > > > > TOB: 13:18 hrs

> > > > > > > > POB: Irinjalakuda 24 kms from Trichur, India,

> > > > > > > > Co-ordinates: 76E15, 10N 30

> > > > > > > > Best Regards

> > > > > > > > Ramesh

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > R.C.Srivastava [swami_rcs]

> > > > > > > > Wednesday, June 02, 2004 12:06 PM

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > > > > Cc: ramesh.gangaramani@a...

> > > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Case analysis, Break from

> > > Career

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > studies,

> > > > > > > > immigration

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear sri ramesh ji ,Birth Data is not contained in

> write

> > > up.

> > > > > > > > I appreciate your effort in exhibiting application of

> > > > > astrology

> > > > > > > > and seeking comments of experts in the List.

> > > > > > > > It will be beautiful if data is posted related to

> case

> > > > > > > analysed ,if it

> > > > > > > > does not embrasses your client.Sri Saaji had also

> requested.

> > > > > > > > With best wishes.

> > > > > > > > RCS

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