Sanjay ji's open-mindedness (More on Scorpio and Guhya......AMEN)

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Dear?,

I have so far refrained from responding to you. But now that you name me

and Sarbani, I must. We were having an academic discussion, only after

when Sarbani, whom I respect much for her dedication to Jyotish, said

that we may. If you have read my earlier posts, you must have read that

I had expressed my reservation about such a discussion on list

anticipating some one with a closed mind finding the discussions may be

squeamish. Sarbani had said that as we are all educated mature and

adults, it should not be any problem having such a discussion. It

appears her assessment of some members of the list went wrong.

 

Why should one who claims that even holding a name is ego, should think

everyone should accept only his point of view is beyond me.

 

Sanjay, fortunately does not have any ego, and I am certain would engage

in a meaningful discussion even if either of want to hold such a

discussions with him, after he has given his opinion on the matter.

Chandrashekhar.

 

nameisego wrote:

 

>

> Dear Sri Narasimha,

> Eventhough no name is refered in your post about Sri Sanjay, it is

> easy to gauge that the undersigned's posting is refered.

>

> In actuality, it was forced upon this being to ask if Sarbaniji and

> Chandrashekhar ji would accept Sri Sanjay ji's words as last in the

> arguement about Guhyanga Parbhasha.

>

> No amount of convincing them would let discussion on matters of

> minutest details of Male and Feamale genitalia and process of

> reproduction, come to rest .

>

> Even posting a relatively light humoured piece in form of Dailogue

> between Shiva and Parvati had no effect. On the contrary, Prabodh ji

> had a dig at undersigned's many names.

>

>

> This being may be knowing less astrology principles than most of the

> group but what is known is correct.(They very reason why the

> undersigned is here is to learn. The process of learning is a bit

> like Ekalavya)

>

>

> Speaking about Sri Sanjay and yourself, when someone posted bad

> remarks about both of you, (Pl refer Partha's posting), this being

> was the first to defend.

>

> It is hoped that a fresher life would be introduced in discussion

> about Karakatva and domain affairs of Rasis and Planets.

>

> It is hoped that it is understood that the intention was not to

> question authority of anyone's mastery over Astrology knowledge.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

> <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > Namaste nameless friend,

> >

> > If one thinks that Sanjay ji is a typical egoistic guru who

> surrounds himself with sycophants and expects people to always agree

> with him, one is badly mistakened.

> >

> > Sanjay ji is the most learned Jyotish scholar and the greatest

> authority in Jyotish today and yet he always said (to me atleast)

> that his knowledge need not be perfect (even though it is far more

> perfect than anybody else's). He encouraged me (and others I am sure)

> to dissect his teachings, to really understand them and disagree when

> needed. He is a totally open-minded and ego-less guru.

> >

> > As members from the old times may recall, he gave me (and others)

> an opportunity to argue with him here many times before. In fact,

> there were even occasions when he changed his views after an

> argument. An example is the Moola dasa starting point argument.

> Because Varahamihira and Kalyana Verma were so unambiguous on it, I

> publicly disagreed with Sanjay ji and had a heated argument on

> whether Sun can be the starting point for Moola dasa apart from lagna

> and Moon. Sanjay ji accepted my view publicly after about a year. It

> is a proof of his greatness, humility and open-mindedness.

> >

> > Of course, some obedient and loyal students of Sanjay ji may take

> his word as the LAST WORD and prefer to ignore other ancient

> authorities. It is a valid stand. Whenever you have a savant of the

> stature of Sanjay ji, invariably such following develops. But you

> have to bear in mind that Sanjay ji himself is quite open. The most

> important thing is that Sanjay ji encourages students like me who

> question some of his teachings publicly and does not treat us with

> suspicion or scorn like some other egoistic gurus may be inclined to

> do. Though I have a mind of my own and questioned Sanjay ji many

> times, he was always so kind and affectionate to me and gave me so

> much! In fact, he explicitly told me to maintain the same spirit of

> questioning and finding the Truth.

> >

> > Sorry for being long, but I really wanted to clarify this, as some

> new people may be tempted to think that Sanjay ji does not tolerate

> different views.

> >

> > If I have misrepresented Sanjay ji in any way, I beg your pardon.

> >

> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > Narasimha

> >

> > PS: Another point is that it is not always easy to gauge what

> exactly Sanjay ji thinks or believes in. He dislikes spoon-feeding.

> There were occasions when he taught me incorrectly and corrected

> himself with lit up eyes when I confronted him with the correct logic

> after a few months. What he teaches you depends on what he thinks you

> are ready for. Thus, what he teaches you is a reflection of what he

> thinks about your level more than what he knows or thinks. His

> actions and motivations are very tough to understand, as he operates

> on a totally different intellectual plane than most of us.

> >

> > > Lerned Gurus,

> > >

> > > And when Sri Sanjay gives his opinion, will it be the LAST WORD?

> > >

> > > Curious to know....

> > >

> > > Tatvam-Asi

> > >

> > > > Sarbani Sarkar wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >Dear Chandrashekharji,

> > > > >

> > > > >I am as confused...I just hope Sanjayji quickly replies to us

> and

> > > shares his

> > > > >thoughts...I know he is busy with his papers for the coming

> > > trips...but,

> > > > >still...

> > > > >

> > > > >Best regards,

> > > > >

> > > > >Sarbani

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