Guest guest Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ Dear Tarkatirth Ji, Well this question was asked to Shri Sanjay Ji and Shri Narshima Ji. Kindly allow me to share my thoughts. Your mail reminded me some of the physics that I have studied in my school / college life. Yes parallax can be there. But see the JHL (Jagannatha Hora Lite) developed by Shri PVR Ji, there is an option for setting altitude also. So, I believe, PVR Ji has taken care these things in the software of what you have asked. I cannot comment on how great sages would have dealt with. But altitude level is there in JHL. I too would be waiting for replies from Shri Sanjay Ji / Shri PVR Ji. Kind Regards, Neeraj Gupta --- tarkatirth <tarkatirth wrote: > DearGuruji, > > > > Traditionally astrologers are using geocentric > co-ordinates which > assumes that everyone was born at the centre of the > earth. Modern > astrologers use co-ordinate system that considers > even height of a > place from the sea level called as topocentric > co-ordinates. This is a > modern technique where planet positions are > calculated as seen from > the actual surface location of the Earth. The > difference between the > geocentric and topocentric systems is that of > parallax (the apparent > difference in an object's position as viewed from > different points.) > The more distant the object, the less the parallax. > For the Moon, the > parallax can reach about one degree in both > longitude and declination. > For the rest of the planets, it is less than half a > minute of arc. > > This means that we have been calculating WRONG moon > positions years > after years. If Parashara and Varahamihira come to > know abt this > mistake will they continue to do it or correct it > immediately. > > > Tarkatirth > > Message 40487 of 40527 | Previous | Next [ U > > ===== http://www.neerajgupta.com Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./careermakeover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 Good day! Does Hora Lagna and other lagnas which depend on the moment of sunrise, also depend on the altitude of the place? In mountains this moment will be the other then in the lower place. Lyudmila vedic astrology, Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote: > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ > > Dear Tarkatirth Ji, > > Well this question was asked to Shri Sanjay Ji and > Shri Narshima Ji. Kindly allow me to share my > thoughts. > > Your mail reminded me some of the physics that I have > studied in my school / college life. Yes parallax can > be there. But see the JHL (Jagannatha Hora Lite) > developed by Shri PVR Ji, there is an option for > setting altitude also. So, I believe, PVR Ji has taken > care these things in the software of what you have > asked. > > I cannot comment on how great sages would have dealt > with. But altitude level is there in JHL. > > I too would be waiting for replies from Shri Sanjay Ji > / Shri PVR Ji. > > Kind Regards, > > Neeraj Gupta > > --- tarkatirth <tarkatirth> wrote: > > DearGuruji, > > > > > > > > Traditionally astrologers are using geocentric > > co-ordinates which > > assumes that everyone was born at the centre of the > > earth. Modern > > astrologers use co-ordinate system that considers > > even height of a > > place from the sea level called as topocentric > > co-ordinates. This is a > > modern technique where planet positions are > > calculated as seen from > > the actual surface location of the Earth. The > > difference between the > > geocentric and topocentric systems is that of > > parallax (the apparent > > difference in an object's position as viewed from > > different points.) > > The more distant the object, the less the parallax. > > For the Moon, the > > parallax can reach about one degree in both > > longitude and declination. > > For the rest of the planets, it is less than half a > > minute of arc. > > > > This means that we have been calculating WRONG moon > > positions years > > after years. If Parashara and Varahamihira come to > > know abt this > > mistake will they continue to do it or correct it > > immediately. > > > > > > Tarkatirth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message 40487 of 40527 | Previous | Next [ U > > > > > > > ===== > http://www.neerajgupta.com > > > > > > > Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at HotJobs > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./careermakeover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ Dear Lyudmila Ji, Kindly note that you mentioned *mountain* and *lower place*, longitude, latitude will change, so accordingly sunrise and sunset time will change. I guess (don't know perfectly) there is nothing related to Altitude in finding HL etc. Kind Regards, Neeraj Gupta --- lyudmila_31 <lyudmila_31 wrote: > Good day! > Does Hora Lagna and other lagnas which depend on the > moment of > sunrise, also depend on the altitude of the place? > In mountains this > moment will be the other then in the lower place. > > Lyudmila > > vedic astrology, Neeraj Gupta > > <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote: > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ > > > > Dear Tarkatirth Ji, > > > > Well this question was asked to Shri Sanjay Ji and > > Shri Narshima Ji. Kindly allow me to share my > > thoughts. > > > > Your mail reminded me some of the physics that I > have > > studied in my school / college life. Yes parallax > can > > be there. But see the JHL (Jagannatha Hora Lite) > > developed by Shri PVR Ji, there is an option for > > setting altitude also. So, I believe, PVR Ji has > taken > > care these things in the software of what you have > > asked. > > > > I cannot comment on how great sages would have > dealt > > with. But altitude level is there in JHL. > > > > I too would be waiting for replies from Shri > Sanjay Ji > > / Shri PVR Ji. > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > --- tarkatirth <tarkatirth> wrote: > > > DearGuruji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Traditionally astrologers are using geocentric > > > co-ordinates which > > > assumes that everyone was born at the centre of > the > > > earth. Modern > > > astrologers use co-ordinate system that > considers > > > even height of a > > > place from the sea level called as topocentric > > > co-ordinates. This is a > > > modern technique where planet positions are > > > calculated as seen from > > > the actual surface location of the Earth. The > > > difference between the > > > geocentric and topocentric systems is that of > > > parallax (the apparent > > > difference in an object's position as viewed > from > > > different points.) > > > The more distant the object, the less the > parallax. > > > For the Moon, the > > > parallax can reach about one degree in both > > > longitude and declination. > > > For the rest of the planets, it is less than > half a > > > minute of arc. > > > > > > This means that we have been calculating WRONG > moon > > > positions years > > > after years. If Parashara and Varahamihira come > to > > > know abt this > > > mistake will they continue to do it or correct > it > > > immediately. > > > > > > > > > Tarkatirth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message 40487 of 40527 | Previous | Next [ > U > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > http://www.neerajgupta.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at HotJobs > > > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./careermakeover > > ===== http://www.geocities.com/getdollar88 Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./careermakeover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 Dear Neeraj Gupta! Altitude means height above sea level or above the horizon. And the coordinates (lat, long) of the place will not change in this case. The time of sunrise in many astronomical programs are given according to sea level acc. to mathematical model of earth's surface - geoid. Imagine that you are in the aiplane - will the height of this flight (up to 3 km) this effect on calculation of Hora lagna of horoscope of the born child on the plane? So will be in the mountains - take for eg Himalayas. You will see the moment of sunrise in mountains earlier than in lower places - for eg in the level of Dead Sea in Israel is much below the sea level. Best regards. Lyudmila vedic astrology, Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote: > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ > > Dear Lyudmila Ji, > > Kindly note that you mentioned *mountain* and *lower > place*, longitude, latitude will change, so > accordingly sunrise and sunset time will change. I > guess (don't know perfectly) there is nothing related > to Altitude in finding HL etc. > > Kind Regards, > > Neeraj Gupta > --- lyudmila_31 <lyudmila_31> wrote: > > Good day! > > Does Hora Lagna and other lagnas which depend on the > > moment of > > sunrise, also depend on the altitude of the place? > > In mountains this > > moment will be the other then in the lower place. > > > > Lyudmila > > > > vedic astrology, Neeraj Gupta > > > > <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote: > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ > > > > > > Dear Tarkatirth Ji, > > > > > > Well this question was asked to Shri Sanjay Ji and > > > Shri Narshima Ji. Kindly allow me to share my > > > thoughts. > > > > > > Your mail reminded me some of the physics that I > > have > > > studied in my school / college life. Yes parallax > > can > > > be there. But see the JHL (Jagannatha Hora Lite) > > > developed by Shri PVR Ji, there is an option for > > > setting altitude also. So, I believe, PVR Ji has > > taken > > > care these things in the software of what you have > > > asked. > > > > > > I cannot comment on how great sages would have > > dealt > > > with. But altitude level is there in JHL. > > > > > > I too would be waiting for replies from Shri > > Sanjay Ji > > > / Shri PVR Ji. > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > > > --- tarkatirth <tarkatirth> wrote: > > > > DearGuruji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Traditionally astrologers are using geocentric > > > > co-ordinates which > > > > assumes that everyone was born at the centre of > > the > > > > earth. Modern > > > > astrologers use co-ordinate system that > > considers > > > > even height of a > > > > place from the sea level called as topocentric > > > > co-ordinates. This is a > > > > modern technique where planet positions are > > > > calculated as seen from > > > > the actual surface location of the Earth. The > > > > difference between the > > > > geocentric and topocentric systems is that of > > > > parallax (the apparent > > > > difference in an object's position as viewed > > from > > > > different points.) > > > > The more distant the object, the less the > > parallax. > > > > For the Moon, the > > > > parallax can reach about one degree in both > > > > longitude and declination. > > > > For the rest of the planets, it is less than > > half a > > > > minute of arc. > > > > > > > > This means that we have been calculating WRONG > > moon > > > > positions years > > > > after years. If Parashara and Varahamihira come > > to > > > > know abt this > > > > mistake will they continue to do it or correct > > it > > > > immediately. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarkatirth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message 40487 of 40527 | Previous | Next [ > > U > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > http://www.neerajgupta.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at HotJobs > > > > > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./careermakeover > > > > > > > ===== > http://www.geocities.com/getdollar88 > > > > > > > Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at HotJobs > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./careermakeover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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