RE:--Ans to Puzzel no 1

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||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah||

 

Dear Pradeep,

 

I'm once again congratulating you for such a indepth attitude towards the

studies Pls continue your efforts and enlight many of us by such wonderful

post!

 

I'm also not confident on this case but have think alot to get the ans and I've

to use many things which are out of scope to discuss on list in details, but I

find one interesting observation that even though I'm not having single book on

Nadi but have heard taht they have used Transits of main planets very

effectively and I find some corelation in this case also!! (I may be wrong also

so pls rectify wherever i'm wrong)

 

Pls look at the transit Sat is in Pi when he had first drop and Jup in Cp and Rahu is in Leo!!

See Sat is in 4th H, 4 th Lord Jup is debilitated in transits and mainly Rahu

has complete his first round of 18 yrs!! I think we have ignored the effect of

KSY (In this case a complete KSY) Hence see the transit position of Sat in

4th(Also 8th from 9th and original Sat in chart significator for 2,3 Houses and

placed in 9th and star lord of 4thLord), Jup in 2nd (in 2nd maraka H and 6th to

9th) debilitated a 4th lord and Karka of 9th H, and once again Rahu is in 9th

and transiting over natal Sat+Rah combination!! (Check here about Rah-Guru is

started and if u use RTN method also then things will get more interesting but

as an amature I won't comment on that but think and let me know ur opinion if u

had done this study )

 

If we see the same transit in D24 then Sat transiting D24 lagna, Jup over

Mars+nodes (Interestingly rahu doshas are present inD24 also) and Rahu is

transiting over 6th H and afflicting Guru in D24 . So if you add these points

to your dasa analysis you may have very close vision also!

(I'm not sure and confidenent that if i 'd given a try I may note take so many

points as we r discussing in my regular ans! But in this case I've to do a lot

of work to point out this brake in education and hence I just want all to get

benefited and to reveal the truth that even though we'd learned too many things

we r not applying them! That's our shortcomings and we should change our

attitude, atleast this is a message for me)

Then Sat will move over Sun , 9 th lord in 5th H and lastly over moon dispositer

of 4th lord so he's detrimental for 4th house! Also consider his aspects! (Saade

Sati is also ther to make him pesemistic)

Rahu will also move from Leo to Cn and does aspect the 4th and passing over Jup

the 4th lord then It'll come in Samsaptaka from Mid of 2000 and make him

ambitious to do the business and same time Sat + Jup are in 6th H over

dispositer of 4th lord and Jup aspecting 10th! He got involved in Business!!

Also note Sat is in 10th in D10 and dasas of Rah-Sat!!

 

Then from previous year Guru transiting over Natal Guru a good transit and Jup

aspects his own house again (4th)and Sat is in Ge at that time and Sat gives

beneficial changes in his education by aspecting 4th H again, He got tempted

and finally get admission on 10th basis to Diploma!

Here Ge is 4th H to D24 and with natal Sat in D24 so after some fights at home

he took admission and this is not a cake walk to him :-) Also Jup is in 5th H

and aspecting his own Lagna in D24 !

As I'm not aware of using D-charts much in analysis if u see the transit in D24,

this will help me to learn more!

But I think using transits effectively we can reach to perfections (off course along with Dasas) !!

 

Pls note I'm also an amature like u and we all can share our charts on list in

form of puzzels(OR we can call it as Discussion Charts for all) and making

comments on our analysis and lastly ask Guru's to correct us! I think this will

improve our effeciency to learn!

Healthy approach with Holy Guidence of Gurus may do miracles for all students !

 

If You point out any thing which I've not written or not correct pls rectify me, open heartly.

 

Regards,

 

Vinay Patwardhan

 

 

"vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep> Tue Jun 22, 2004

5:25 pm Re: Ans to Puzzel no 1

Click HereDear VinayI was bit busy personally and hence the delay

in reply.You areperfectly right in making the statement regarding assumptions

andguesses.These kinds of quizzes will definitely help us to learn

andthink.Timing of events and confirmations in a predictive fashion isreally

tough and challenging.Thanks a lot for sharing the chart and your valuable tips

andhints.The case is really interesting.Could you kindly analyse thereasons for

this BIG break or gap?I had 'guessed' the stream as technical in my first mail

(by seeingthe influence of 5th lord mars plus karaka mercury on the

4thhouse).But how do we confirm on such cases!!In my first mail regarding this

topic , i had mentioned about theposition of lagna lord and ist dispositor in

dusthanas thoughexalted.Also position of gulika in lagna.But because of

exaltation itermed the health as OK/Average.But from your mail it was

evidentthat this position was enough to make the native struggle with healthat

a young age.This was interesting to note.Kindly elaborate.His aptitude is being

shown by the exalted planets and yogas.Butpassing exams and certificates were

lacking!!From your previous mail i have understood the importance of

kartariyogas and kemadruma while analysing the strengths of

yogas.Alsoneechabhangas do not deliver easily(after dificulties ,struggles

ordelayed).Hence 4th house ,house of honour was bit stressed.Due to thereasons

mentioned by you and presence of debilitated mercury.Mercuryposition from other

references were also playing.But dispositors madehim knowledgeable but not kind

enough to give honour.But can we thinklater on this situation may

change!!Especially as 5th lord Mars is in4th?I think as you have pointed out

Rahu the current dasha and istposition in 9th and transits were important hints

regarding luck andloss of the individual.Will try to analyse giving importance

tonakshthras as well in the future with the guidance of learned members.Thanks

to Sarvashree Sabri & Raman & Ramesh for sharing theirknowledge.Thanks for the

explanations and post more study charts.I am forwarding another mail from shri

Kapilasthalam ji with timingof events,which came to my inbox by mistake.Best

regdsPradeep

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Dear Vinay

Thanks for your kind words.Your humility is your strength.I have to

read a lot to apply most of the techniques which you have mentioned

in your mail.But you have covered most of the major factors to be

considered during analysis.I have to start going and looking into

secondary and tertiary levels rather than just sticking with the

general overviews:-).Thanks for the inspiration.

The sickness analysis was a good example from you.Venus being a func

malefic for Dhanus, Rahu in the above saids nakshathra and

influencing lagna along with maraka saturn shows health difficulties,

as indiations are there in the natal chart supported by appropriate

dasha & Transits.I have to accept that transit considerations needs

patience and dedication:-)

I have some doubts regarding aspects of Rahu and Transits of planets

in Divisionals.Could you kindly tell me what you exactly mean by

saying transit planet in D-24 or D-9.Do You mean the planets transit

on a particular degree in the rashi ? Or do you mean the planets

transit in the Rashi sign,which disposits the planet in the concerned

divisional?

For example Consider Jupiter in Cancer in Dashamsha and in Pisces in

Rashi.

When any planet is transiting Pisces, Jupiter will be activated.But

when it is transiting Cancer(Rashi), Jupiter activation is at a

different level w.r to Dashamsha.As per my understanding ,when we say

jupiter is in Cancer in Dashamsha it means, within Pisces tattwa

(broader level ,Rashi) Jupiter is in a cancerian Tattwa ruled

plane ,when observed from professional angle(division of 10). But

when a planet is transiting cancer(i mean the cancer in Rashi 30

degree), Moon will be acivated( as sign lords gets activated during

transits) and hence the cancer tattwa within Pisces may also

influence the jupiter.But you see this is not a direct influence.This

is an environmental influence.This will be present even without

transit.For example Mars in cancer in navamsha while in capricorn in

rashi will always be stressed.Because though having an exalted nature

in capricorn it is subjected to close non congenial influences from

cancerian environment.While a transit on the exact Rashi where a

planet is placed is a direct influence.

Thus is it is not easy to judge the transiting influences from the

above said point of view.On the other hand if we are considering a

certain degree then the influence can be very high.These are just my

doubts for which i am looking for an answer.I may be wrong.Also is

there any authoritative statement regarding aspects of Rahu in

classics.

Thanks a lot again for your educative mails.

Best regds

Pradeep