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Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Sarath,

 

"Banefic give shubha argalas, malefic offer papa argalas.

Exception: malefic from 3rd house from karka bhava cause shubha aragala."

 

I had asked a similar question sometime back and Raghunadha Rao was kind enough

to point out exception given in the same book, so I remember it and am able to

respond quickly.

 

Best Regards

Ramesh

Sarath [gsb1008 (AT) HotPOP (DOT) com]Tuesday,

June 08, 2004 10:10 AMvedic astrologySubject:

[vedic astrology] Question on Argala

Om Krishna Guru

 

Dear Friends,

 

I am little confused while reading COVA, and so seeking help.

 

On the chapter for 10th house (page# 425/426), Sanjayji writes that:

- Saturn in 10th has paapaargala on 9th and subhaargala on 12th.

- Simillarly for Ketu too.

 

>From IAVA (page# 89):

- Argala by benefic is called subhaargla and by malefic is called paapaargala.

 

Now the confusion here is obvious, I expect both the argala's to be paapaargala.

I don't understand why argala on 9th is paapa while 12th is shubha.

 

 

Thanks for your time,

Sarath.

 

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Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

Dear Srinath,

I am sorry my reply does not explain your query related to 12H. Saturn in 10H

will give 11th house aragala to 12H and hence papaaragala. There is need to

recheck! I forgot to mention that Ketu's aragala is counted in

reverse."Vipariitam Ketoh"

Regards

Ramesh

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Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Sarath,

 

"Banefic give shubha argalas, malefic offer papa argalas.

Exception: malefic from 3rd house from karka bhava cause shubha aragala."

 

I had asked a similar question sometime back and Raghunadha Rao was kind enough

to point out exception given in the same book, so I remember it and am able to

respond quickly.

 

Best Regards

Ramesh

Sarath [gsb1008 (AT) HotPOP (DOT) com]Tuesday,

June 08, 2004 10:10 AMvedic astrologySubject:

[vedic astrology] Question on Argala

Om Krishna Guru

 

Dear Friends,

 

I am little confused while reading COVA, and so seeking help.

 

On the chapter for 10th house (page# 425/426), Sanjayji writes that:

- Saturn in 10th has paapaargala on 9th and subhaargala on 12th.

- Simillarly for Ketu too.

 

>From IAVA (page# 89):

- Argala by benefic is called subhaargla and by malefic is called paapaargala.

 

Now the confusion here is obvious, I expect both the argala's to be paapaargala.

I don't understand why argala on 9th is paapa while 12th is shubha.

 

 

Thanks for your time,

Sarath.

 

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Om Krishna Guru,

 

Dear Rameshji,

 

Good one, Thanks for pointing it out.

 

Now, how is it same for Saturn and Ketu ? Shouldn't we reverse the argala of Ketu ?

 

So, Ketu's 3rd argala would be on 8th house, instead of, on the 12th?

 

I am sure I am again missing something here, but don't know what!

 

 

Thanks for your help.

Sarath.

 

 

 

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Ramesh Gangaramani

vedic astrology

Monday, June 07, 2004 11:34 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Question on Argala

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Sarath,

 

"Banefic give shubha argalas, malefic offer papa argalas.

Exception: malefic from 3rd house from karka bhava cause shubha aragala."

 

I had asked a similar question sometime back and Raghunadha Rao was kind enough

to point out exception given in the same book, so I remember it and am able to

respond quickly.

 

Best Regards

Ramesh

Sarath [gsb1008 (AT) HotPOP (DOT) com]Tuesday,

June 08, 2004 10:10 AMvedic astrologySubject:

[vedic astrology] Question on Argala

Om Krishna Guru

 

Dear Friends,

 

I am little confused while reading COVA, and so seeking help.

 

On the chapter for 10th house (page# 425/426), Sanjayji writes that:

- Saturn in 10th has paapaargala on 9th and subhaargala on 12th.

- Simillarly for Ketu too.

 

>From IAVA (page# 89):

- Argala by benefic is called subhaargla and by malefic is called paapaargala.

 

Now the confusion here is obvious, I expect both the argala's to be paapaargala.

I don't understand why argala on 9th is paapa while 12th is shubha.

 

 

Thanks for your time,

Sarath.

 

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Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Sarath,

 

You must have seen my second mail on this by now. 12th house normally receives

primary aragala from 1st, 3rd and 10th houses. (2,4,11th aragala). secondary

aragala from 4th and 7th (5,8 aragala). Exceptional house will be 2nd.(3rd

aragala).

 

I will read through COVA pages once again and write, if I have something to add.

 

Kind regards

Ramesh

Sarath [gsb1008 (AT) HotPOP (DOT) com]Tuesday,

June 08, 2004 11:05 AMvedic astrologySubject: Re:

[vedic astrology] Question on Argala

Om Krishna Guru,

 

Dear Rameshji,

 

Good one, Thanks for pointing it out.

 

Now, how is it same for Saturn and Ketu ? Shouldn't we reverse the argala of Ketu ?

 

So, Ketu's 3rd argala would be on 8th house, instead of, on the 12th?

 

I am sure I am again missing something here, but don't know what!

 

 

Thanks for your help.

Sarath.

 

 

 

-

Ramesh Gangaramani

vedic astrology

Monday, June 07, 2004 11:34 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Question on Argala

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Sarath,

 

"Banefic give shubha argalas, malefic offer papa argalas.

Exception: malefic from 3rd house from karka bhava cause shubha aragala."

 

I had asked a similar question sometime back and Raghunadha Rao was kind enough

to point out exception given in the same book, so I remember it and am able to

respond quickly.

 

Best Regards

Ramesh

Sarath [gsb1008 (AT) HotPOP (DOT) com]Tuesday,

June 08, 2004 10:10 AMvedic astrologySubject:

[vedic astrology] Question on Argala

Om Krishna Guru

 

Dear Friends,

 

I am little confused while reading COVA, and so seeking help.

 

On the chapter for 10th house (page# 425/426), Sanjayji writes that:

- Saturn in 10th has paapaargala on 9th and subhaargala on 12th.

- Simillarly for Ketu too.

 

>From IAVA (page# 89):

- Argala by benefic is called subhaargla and by malefic is called paapaargala.

 

Now the confusion here is obvious, I expect both the argala's to be paapaargala.

I don't understand why argala on 9th is paapa while 12th is shubha.

 

 

Thanks for your time,

Sarath.

 

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Dear Sharath

 

Argala has to be analysed at a deeper level.

 

WHen darkness bolts the guru sthana, it can never be a shubha argala.

The karakas are very important. The karaka for 9th house is guru, and

Saturn debilitates Guru, (Guru gets debilitated in Capricorn).

 

The karaka for 12th house is Saturn. When you meditate and sleep, you

need a dimly lit room with less noise, dont you.

 

The argala of saturn on such a 12th house, by being placed in 11th

from it can give much insight into dreams and occult practices.

You can still call it paapargala if you want to, but i prefer to call

it shubhargala, as there is hardowrk to get moksha

best wishes

partha

 

 

vedic astrology, "Sarath" <gsb1008@H...> wrote:

> Om Krishna Guru

>

> Dear Friends,

>

> I am little confused while reading COVA, and so seeking help.

>

> On the chapter for 10th house (page# 425/426), Sanjayji writes that:

> - Saturn in 10th has paapaargala on 9th and subhaargala on 12th.

> - Simillarly for Ketu too.

>

> From IAVA (page# 89):

> - Argala by benefic is called subhaargla and by malefic is called

paapaargala.

>

> Now the confusion here is obvious, I expect both the argala's to be

paapaargala. I don't understand why argala on 9th is paapa while 12th

is shubha.

>

>

> Thanks for your time,

> Sarath.

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Dear Sharath

 

Argala has to be analysed at a deeper level.

 

WHen darkness bolts the guru sthana, it can never be a shubha argala.

The karakas are very important. The karaka for 9th house is guru, and

Saturn debilitates Guru, (Guru gets debilitated in Capricorn).

 

The karaka for 12th house is Saturn. When you meditate and sleep, you

need a dimly lit room with less noise, dont you.

 

The argala of saturn on such a 12th house, by being placed in 11th

from it can give much insight into dreams and occult practices.

You can still call it paapargala if you want to, but i prefer to call

it shubhargala, as there is hardowrk to get moksha

best wishes

partha

 

 

vedic astrology, "Sarath" <gsb1008@H...> wrote:

> Om Krishna Guru

>

> Dear Friends,

>

> I am little confused while reading COVA, and so seeking help.

>

> On the chapter for 10th house (page# 425/426), Sanjayji writes that:

> - Saturn in 10th has paapaargala on 9th and subhaargala on 12th.

> - Simillarly for Ketu too.

>

> From IAVA (page# 89):

> - Argala by benefic is called subhaargla and by malefic is called

paapaargala.

>

> Now the confusion here is obvious, I expect both the argala's to be

paapaargala. I don't understand why argala on 9th is paapa while 12th

is shubha.

>

>

> Thanks for your time,

> Sarath.

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Om Krishna Guru

 

 

Dear Partha ji,

 

That was nicely explained. Thanks so much.

 

 

Now, Is there any difference between argala from 2nd, 4th and 11th houses ?

In my thinking it should as 2nd is dhana, 4th is suka and 11th is laabha.

 

For example, Would Saturn give simillar results if placed in 1st or 3rd

houses ?

 

How much importance should we give for the positional strength ? ie,

(ignoring other factors for now)

- Saturn in 1st is not well placed, as 1st house is its MKS, karaka for 1st

house is Sun and Saturn gets delib in natural 1st house.

- Saturn in 3rd is also not well placed, as karaka for 3rd is Mars who

always overpowers Saturn.

- Saturn is reasonably placed in 10th house, as it owns 10th house of

natural zodiac, and one of the karaka for the 10th house.

 

Thanks a lot for your time,

Sarath.

 

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"V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5

<vedic astrology>

Tuesday, June 08, 2004 2:22 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Question on Argala

 

 

> Dear Sharath

>

> Argala has to be analysed at a deeper level.

>

> WHen darkness bolts the guru sthana, it can never be a shubha argala.

> The karakas are very important. The karaka for 9th house is guru, and

> Saturn debilitates Guru, (Guru gets debilitated in Capricorn).

>

> The karaka for 12th house is Saturn. When you meditate and sleep, you

> need a dimly lit room with less noise, dont you.

>

> The argala of saturn on such a 12th house, by being placed in 11th

> from it can give much insight into dreams and occult practices.

> You can still call it paapargala if you want to, but i prefer to call

> it shubhargala, as there is hardowrk to get moksha

> best wishes

> partha

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Dear Sarath

 

I hope i got your name right.

 

Now answers to your questions

 

There is definitely a difference between 2nd, 4th and 11th argalas.

 

The argala of planet in fourth from navamsa, usually gives marriage

during its dasa. this is my research, you can test it in some charts.

Either 2nd or 4th argala. Now why does it behave like that , i will

leave it to you.

 

We were discussing argala and not positions of planet Sani.

 

But coming to your point, Saturn in lagna gives health problems till

30 years of age. Though parasara says 10 years, i guess with

environmental pollution, and usage of allopathy has made it nearly 30

years.

 

Your point about saturn in third needs a relook.

Saturn in 3rd infact is a very good placement. He gives persistence

to the native(parakrama argala of malefics). He is in the 10th from

6th house, and thus such a saturn would destroy the enemies.

 

Saturn in 10th is both good and bad. Hard work, but there can be

sudden fall also, as Saturn is giving dhana argala to bhagya and

morality sthana. Now such a person can get into wrong means to gain

his objectives. Remember Hitler?

best wishes

partha

partvinu.tripod.com

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Sarath" <gsb1008@H...> wrote:

> Om Krishna Guru

>

>

> Dear Partha ji,

>

> That was nicely explained. Thanks so much.

>

>

> Now, Is there any difference between argala from 2nd, 4th and 11th

houses ?

> In my thinking it should as 2nd is dhana, 4th is suka and 11th is

laabha.

>

> For example, Would Saturn give simillar results if placed in 1st or

3rd

> houses ?

>

> How much importance should we give for the positional strength ? ie,

> (ignoring other factors for now)

> - Saturn in 1st is not well placed, as 1st house is its MKS, karaka

for 1st

> house is Sun and Saturn gets delib in natural 1st house.

> - Saturn in 3rd is also not well placed, as karaka for 3rd is Mars

who

> always overpowers Saturn.

> - Saturn is reasonably placed in 10th house, as it owns 10th house

of

> natural zodiac, and one of the karaka for the 10th house.

>

> Thanks a lot for your time,

> Sarath.

>

> -

> "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5>

> <vedic astrology>

> Tuesday, June 08, 2004 2:22 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Question on Argala

>

>

> > Dear Sharath

> >

> > Argala has to be analysed at a deeper level.

> >

> > WHen darkness bolts the guru sthana, it can never be a shubha

argala.

> > The karakas are very important. The karaka for 9th house is guru,

and

> > Saturn debilitates Guru, (Guru gets debilitated in Capricorn).

> >

> > The karaka for 12th house is Saturn. When you meditate and sleep,

you

> > need a dimly lit room with less noise, dont you.

> >

> > The argala of saturn on such a 12th house, by being placed in 11th

> > from it can give much insight into dreams and occult practices.

> > You can still call it paapargala if you want to, but i prefer to

call

> > it shubhargala, as there is hardowrk to get moksha

> > best wishes

> > partha

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Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Partha,

Thank you for explaining. I think the key words in Cova pages referred are

"Saturn will have shubhaaragala on the 12th house of which it is a

significator". Saturn's aragala for spiritual matters will be shubh, may not be

so for significations like sexual pleasures which are the significations of

Venus! is that right?

Regards

Ramesh

V.Partha sarathy

[partvinu5 ]Tuesday, June 08, 2004 1:24 PMTo:

vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Question on

ArgalaDear SharathArgala has to be analysed at a deeper level.WHen darkness

bolts the guru sthana, it can never be a shubha argala. The karakas are very

important. The karaka for 9th house is guru, and Saturn debilitates Guru, (Guru

gets debilitated in Capricorn).The karaka for 12th house is Saturn. When you

meditate and sleep, you need a dimly lit room with less noise, dont you.The

argala of saturn on such a 12th house, by being placed in 11th from it can give

much insight into dreams and occult practices.You can still call it paapargala

if you want to, but i prefer to call it shubhargala, as there is hardowrk to

get mokshabest wishesparthavedic astrology, "Sarath"

<gsb1008@H...> wrote:> Om Krishna Guru> > Dear Friends,> > I am little confused

while reading COVA, and so seeking help.> > On the chapter for 10th house (page#

425/426), Sanjayji writes that:> - Saturn in 10th has paapaargala on 9th and

subhaargala on 12th. > - Simillarly for Ketu too.> > From IAVA (page# 89):> -

Argala by benefic is called subhaargla and by malefic is called paapaargala.> >

Now the confusion here is obvious, I expect both the argala's to be paapaargala.

I don't understand why argala on 9th is paapa while 12th is shubha.> > > Thanks

for your time,> Sarath.Archives:

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Dear Ramesh

 

yes your understanding is correct.

best wishes

partha

 

 

vedic astrology, "Ramesh Gangaramani"

<ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote:

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Partha,

> Thank you for explaining. I think the key words in Cova pages

referred are

> "Saturn will have shubhaaragala on the 12th house of which it is a

> significator". Saturn's aragala for spiritual matters will be

shubh, may not

> be so for significations like sexual pleasures which are the

significations

> of Venus! is that right?

> Regards

> Ramesh

>

> V.Partha sarathy [partvinu5]

> Tuesday, June 08, 2004 1:24 PM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: Question on Argala

>

>

> Dear Sharath

>

> Argala has to be analysed at a deeper level.

>

> WHen darkness bolts the guru sthana, it can never be a shubha

argala.

> The karakas are very important. The karaka for 9th house is guru,

and

> Saturn debilitates Guru, (Guru gets debilitated in Capricorn).

>

> The karaka for 12th house is Saturn. When you meditate and sleep,

you

> need a dimly lit room with less noise, dont you.

>

> The argala of saturn on such a 12th house, by being placed in 11th

> from it can give much insight into dreams and occult practices.

> You can still call it paapargala if you want to, but i prefer to

call

> it shubhargala, as there is hardowrk to get moksha

> best wishes

> partha

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Sarath" <gsb1008@H...>

wrote:

> > Om Krishna Guru

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> >

> > I am little confused while reading COVA, and so seeking help.

> >

> > On the chapter for 10th house (page# 425/426), Sanjayji writes

that:

> > - Saturn in 10th has paapaargala on 9th and subhaargala on 12th.

> > - Simillarly for Ketu too.

> >

> > From IAVA (page# 89):

> > - Argala by benefic is called subhaargla and by malefic is

called

> paapaargala.

> >

> > Now the confusion here is obvious, I expect both the argala's

to be

> paapaargala. I don't understand why argala on 9th is paapa while

12th

> is shubha.

> >

> >

> > Thanks for your time,

> > Sarath.

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Rameshji and Parthaji,

 

Thanks for coming forward and help. Now, Let me do some homework!

 

Thanks and Regards,

Sarath.

 

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"V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5

<vedic astrology>

Tuesday, June 08, 2004 10:25 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Question on Argala

 

 

> Dear Ramesh

>

> yes your understanding is correct.

> best wishes

> partha

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Ramesh Gangaramani"

> <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote:

> > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> >

> > Partha,

> > Thank you for explaining. I think the key words in Cova pages

> referred are

> > "Saturn will have shubhaaragala on the 12th house of which it is a

> > significator". Saturn's aragala for spiritual matters will be

> shubh, may not

> > be so for significations like sexual pleasures which are the

> significations

> > of Venus! is that right?

> > Regards

> > Ramesh

> >

> > V.Partha sarathy [partvinu5]

> > Tuesday, June 08, 2004 1:24 PM

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Question on Argala

> >

> >

> > Dear Sharath

> >

> > Argala has to be analysed at a deeper level.

> >

> > WHen darkness bolts the guru sthana, it can never be a shubha

> argala.

> > The karakas are very important. The karaka for 9th house is guru,

> and

> > Saturn debilitates Guru, (Guru gets debilitated in Capricorn).

> >

> > The karaka for 12th house is Saturn. When you meditate and sleep,

> you

> > need a dimly lit room with less noise, dont you.

> >

> > The argala of saturn on such a 12th house, by being placed in 11th

> > from it can give much insight into dreams and occult practices.

> > You can still call it paapargala if you want to, but i prefer to

> call

> > it shubhargala, as there is hardowrk to get moksha

> > best wishes

> > partha

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Sarath" <gsb1008@H...>

> wrote:

> > > Om Krishna Guru

> > >

> > > Dear Friends,

> > >

> > > I am little confused while reading COVA, and so seeking help.

> > >

> > > On the chapter for 10th house (page# 425/426), Sanjayji writes

> that:

> > > - Saturn in 10th has paapaargala on 9th and subhaargala on 12th.

> > > - Simillarly for Ketu too.

> > >

> > > From IAVA (page# 89):

> > > - Argala by benefic is called subhaargla and by malefic is

> called

> > paapaargala.

> > >

> > > Now the confusion here is obvious, I expect both the argala's

> to be

> > paapaargala. I don't understand why argala on 9th is paapa while

> 12th

> > is shubha.

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks for your time,

> > > Sarath.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Partha,

 

I think Saturn in lagna is one of the "balarishta" combinations, so

isn't 10 years more likely to mark the period of ill-health? 30 years

can hardly be classified as "bala" I think.

 

Anyway, I also have Saturn in lagna and i can vouch that till 6-8

years of age, i did have some unexpected health related problems,

but after that i have been abominably healthy, touchwood :--))

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

<partvinu5> wrote:

> Dear Sarath

>

> I hope i got your name right.

>

> Now answers to your questions

>

> There is definitely a difference between 2nd, 4th and 11th argalas.

>

> The argala of planet in fourth from navamsa, usually gives marriage

> during its dasa. this is my research, you can test it in some

charts.

> Either 2nd or 4th argala. Now why does it behave like that , i will

> leave it to you.

>

> We were discussing argala and not positions of planet Sani.

>

> But coming to your point, Saturn in lagna gives health problems

till

> 30 years of age. Though parasara says 10 years, i guess with

> environmental pollution, and usage of allopathy has made it nearly

30

> years.

>

> Your point about saturn in third needs a relook.

> Saturn in 3rd infact is a very good placement. He gives persistence

> to the native(parakrama argala of malefics). He is in the 10th from

> 6th house, and thus such a saturn would destroy the enemies.

>

> Saturn in 10th is both good and bad. Hard work, but there can be

> sudden fall also, as Saturn is giving dhana argala to bhagya and

> morality sthana. Now such a person can get into wrong means to gain

> his objectives. Remember Hitler?

> best wishes

> partha

> partvinu.tripod.com

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Sarath" <gsb1008@H...>

wrote:

> > Om Krishna Guru

> >

> >

> > Dear Partha ji,

> >

> > That was nicely explained. Thanks so much.

> >

> >

> > Now, Is there any difference between argala from 2nd, 4th and

11th

> houses ?

> > In my thinking it should as 2nd is dhana, 4th is suka and 11th is

> laabha.

> >

> > For example, Would Saturn give simillar results if placed in 1st

or

> 3rd

> > houses ?

> >

> > How much importance should we give for the positional strength ?

ie,

> > (ignoring other factors for now)

> > - Saturn in 1st is not well placed, as 1st house is its MKS,

karaka

> for 1st

> > house is Sun and Saturn gets delib in natural 1st house.

> > - Saturn in 3rd is also not well placed, as karaka for 3rd is

Mars

> who

> > always overpowers Saturn.

> > - Saturn is reasonably placed in 10th house, as it owns 10th

house

> of

> > natural zodiac, and one of the karaka for the 10th house.

> >

> > Thanks a lot for your time,

> > Sarath.

> >

> > -

> > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5>

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Tuesday, June 08, 2004 2:22 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Question on Argala

> >

> >

> > > Dear Sharath

> > >

> > > Argala has to be analysed at a deeper level.

> > >

> > > WHen darkness bolts the guru sthana, it can never be a shubha

> argala.

> > > The karakas are very important. The karaka for 9th house is

guru,

> and

> > > Saturn debilitates Guru, (Guru gets debilitated in Capricorn).

> > >

> > > The karaka for 12th house is Saturn. When you meditate and

sleep,

> you

> > > need a dimly lit room with less noise, dont you.

> > >

> > > The argala of saturn on such a 12th house, by being placed in

11th

> > > from it can give much insight into dreams and occult practices.

> > > You can still call it paapargala if you want to, but i prefer

to

> call

> > > it shubhargala, as there is hardowrk to get moksha

> > > best wishes

> > > partha

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