Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Namaste friends, I am sending a more detailed write-up than earlier on the basis behind the Kalachakra dasa tables. I don't expect people to agree with me. Please feel free to have a difference of opinion. But, please try to understand my approach before accusing me of inconsistency like Chandrashekhar ji did earlier. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha ----- © 2004, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao, Sri Jagannath Centre Kalachakra Navamsa Lord Shiva taught: bhauma sukra budhendvarka saumya bhrigvaara mantrinah sanirmando guruschaiva navaamsa bhavanaadhipaah Literal Meaning: Mars, Venus, Mercury, Moon, Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Saturn and Jupiter are respectively the navamsa sign lords [in the navamsas of each group of 3 nakshtras]. aswi punarvasu hasta moola proshthapadaadishu trishveshu ganayenmeshaat praadakshinya kramena tu Literal Meaning: In groups of three nakshatras starting from Aswini, Punarvasu, Hasta, Moola and Poorvabhadra, we count zodiacally from Aries. Detailed Meaning: Combining this with the previous verse, we can start from Aries and go zodiacally and get the 12 lords as given. The signs clearly are: Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius and Pisces. Thus, this is the order or navamsa signs for the padas of 3 stars starting from the constellations mentioned above. rohini makha vaisakha vaishnavaadi kramena tu vrischikaadyamsakaanaam apasavya kramena tu Literal Meaning: In groups of three nakshatras starting from Rohini, Makha, Visakha and Sravanam, we count irregularly, starting from Scorpio. Detailed Meaning: Combining this with the first verse, we can start from Scorpio and go backwards irregularly and get the 12 lords as given. The signs clearly are: Scorpio, Libra, Virgo, Cancer, Leo, Gemini, Taurus, Aries, Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn and Sagittarius. Though this progression is basically anti-zodiacal, there are exceptions. These exceptions/special jumps occur due to the constarint on the lordships placed in the first verse. First navamsa is Scorpio, lorded by Mars. Next one is Libra, lorded by Venus. Next one is Virgo, lorded by Mercury. Then Moon, Sun and Mercury must come. So it has to be Cancer, Leo and Gemini. Due to Moon and Sun owning only one sign each, we have these jumps. Thus, this is the order or navamsa signs for the padas of 3 stars starting from Rohini, Makha, Visakha and Sravanam. Chart: Kalachakra navamsa chart is a variation of the normal navamsa chart. It is cast based on the three verses we discussed above. The following mapping makes it clearer (I hope the tables inserted from a Word document come fine in the mail when it appears on the web finally). In fact, Lord Shiva just called it "navamsa" chart and I am calling it "Kalachakra navamsa" only to avoid confusion. Table 1: Kalachakra navamsas in savya nakshatras Stars Aswini Punarvasu Hasta Moola P.Bhadra Bharani Pushyami Chitra P.Shadha U.Bhadra Krittika Asresha Swati U.Shadha Revati Pada 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 Kalachakra Navamsa Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi Lord Mar Ven Mer Moo Sun Mer Ven Mar Jup Sat Sat Jup Table 2: Kalachakra navamsas in apasavya nakshatras Stars Rohini Magha Visakha Sravanam Mrigasira P.Phalguni Anuradha Dhanishtha Ardra U.Phalguni Jyeshtha Satabhishak Pada 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 Kalachakra Navamsa Sc Li Vi Cn Le Ge Ta Ar Pi Aq Cp Sg Lord Mar Ven Mer Moo Sun Mer Ven Mar Jup Sat Sat Jup Using the table above, one can prepare the Kalachakra navamsa chart. Kalachakra Nava-navamsa Nava-navamsa is the D-81 chart. It is the navamsa (1/9th) of the navamsa (1/9th) chart. We divide each sign in the navamsa chart into 9 amsas again! We take the sign in the navamsa chart, treat it as if it were a sign in the rasi chart and find further navamsas in it. One can make the normal cyclical navamsa and a cyclical nava-navamsa based on it. Similarly, one can take this non-cyclical Kalachakra navamsa defined above and make a nava-navamsa chart based on it. Let us take Aswini 1st pada for example. It is obtained by dividing Aries into 9 equal parts and taking the first part. In other words, Aswini 1st pada corresponds to 0 deg in Aries to 3 deg 20 min in Aries. The navamsa sign corresponding to it is Aries. Suppose we divide Aswini 1st pada into 9 parts again, i.e. divide 0 Ar 0 - 3 Ar 20 into 9 equal parts of 22.2222 min. They are the nava-navamsas. How do we find the rasis corresponding to those portions in the D-81 chart? Simple - we treat the navamsa sign (Aries here) as a sign in rasi chart and find navamsa in it. Then we get the nava-navamsa signs of the 9 parts of Aswini 1st pada. If you take Aries sign in which Aswini 1st pada falls in navamsa, treat it as a sign in the rasi chart and find further navamsas in it, you will get Aswini 1, 2, 3, 4, Bharani 1, 2, 3, 4 and Krittika 1 (these are the navamsas in Aries rasi). Nava-navamsa is the navamsa of the navamsa. So the nine nava-navamsas of Aswini 1st pada correspond to the nine signs that are the navamsas corresponding to Aswini 1, 2, 3, 4, Bharani 1, 2, 3, 4 and Krittika 1. Look for the Kalachakra navamsa signs corresponding to Aswini 1, 2, 3, 4, Bharani 1, 2, 3, 4 and Krittika 1 in table 1 and write down the sequence. You will get Ar, Ta, Ge, Cn, Le, Vi, Li, Sc and Sg. So these are the signs in D-81 chart (using the Kalachakra nava-navamsa variation) corresponding to the nine parts of Aswini 1st pada. Intelligent astrologers may notice that this is indeed the dasa table assigned to Aswini 1st pada or Aries in the Kalachakra dasa scheme!! Now, let us take Aswini 2nd pada. It corresponds to 3 Ar 20 - 6 Ar 40. If we divide this portion into 9 equal parts, what signs do they go into in D-81? Simple, we treat the navamsa sign corresponding to Aswini 2nd pada (i.e. Taurus), treat that as a sign in the rasi chart and find navamsas in it! Then we get the nava-navamsa signs of the 9 parts of Aswini 2nd pada. If you take Taurus sign in which Aswini 2nd pada falls in navamsa, treat it as a sign in the rasi chart and find further navamsas in it, you will get Krittika 2, 3, 4, Rohini 1, 2, 3, 4 and Mrigasira 1, 2 (these are the navamsas in Taurus rasi). Nava-navamsa is the navamsa of the navamsa. So the nine nava-navamsas of Aswini 2nd pada correspond to the nine signs that are the navamsas corresponding to Krittika 2, 3, 4, Rohini 1, 2, 3, 4 and Mrigasira 1, 2. Look for the Kalachakra navamsa signs corresponding to Krittika 2, 3, 4, Rohini 1, 2, 3, 4 and Mrigasira 1, 2 in tables 1 and 2 and write down the sequence. You will get Cp, Aq, Pi, Sc, Li, Vi, Cn, Le and Ge. So these are the signs in D-81 chart (using the Kalachakra nava-navamsa variation) corresponding to the nine parts of Aswini 2nd pada. Now, let us take Aswini 3rd pada. It corresponds to 6 Ar 40 - 10 Ar 0. If we divide this portion into 9 equal parts, what signs do they go into in D-81? Simple, we treat the navamsa sign corresponding to Aswini 3rd pada (i.e. Gemini), treat that as a sign in the rasi chart and find navamsas in it! Then we get the nava-navamsa signs of the 9 parts of Aswini 3rd pada. If you take Gemini sign in which Aswini 3rd pada falls in navamsa, treat it as a sign in the rasi chart and find further navamsas in it, you will get Mrigasira 3, 4, Ardra 1, 2, 3, 4 and Punarvasu 1, 2, 3 (these are the navamsas in Gemini rasi). Nava-navamsa is the navamsa of the navamsa. So the nine nava-navamsas of Aswini 3rd pada correspond to the nine signs that are the navamsas corresponding to Mrigasira 3, 4, Ardra 1, 2, 3, 4 and Punarvasu 1, 2, 3. Look for the Kalachakra navamsa signs corresponding to Mrigasira 3, 4, Ardra 1, 2, 3, 4 and Punarvasu 1, 2, 3 in tables 1 and 2 and write down the sequence. You will get Ta, Ar, Pi, Aq, Cp, Sg, Ar, Ta and Ge. So these are the signs in D-81 chart (using the Kalachakra nava-navamsa variation) corresponding to the nine parts of Aswini 3rd pada. Similarly, we can derive the 9 signs representing the nine parts of each nakshatra pada, in D-81 chart. If you finish that exercise carefully, you will notice that the so-called "dasa cycles" given in Kalachakra dasa for various nakshatra padas are nothing but the nava-navamsas in that nakshatra pada. Only tricky issue is that these are reversed in apasavya nakshatras. Let us see why. The navamsa corresponding to Aswini 1st pada is Aries. When we find the navamsas of the padas of Aswini, they go as Ar, Ta, Ge etc. We are progressing in the zodiacal direction and, when we divide Aries into 9 navamsas further, we get from Aswini 1st pada to Krittika 1st pada. The navamsa corresponding to Mrigasira 4th pada is also Aries (see table 2). However, when we find the navamsas of the padas of Mrigasira, they go as Ge, Ta, Ar etc. We are progressing in the reverse order. We are going to Ar from Ta. So we start from the end of Ar and go to the beginning of Ar. So the nine equal parts of Mrigasira 4th pada (3 Ge 20 - 6 Ge 40) are mapped to the navamsa signs corresponding to Krittika 1, Bharani 4, 3, 2, 1, Aswini 4, 3, 2, 1. In other words, first 22.2222 minutes of Mrigasira 4th pada are mapped to Sg in D-81, next 22.2222 min of Mrigasira 4th pada are mapped to Sc in D-81 and so on. This is why there is a reversal of dasa cycle in apasavya nakshatras! Kalachakra Dasa Tables As explained above, the so-called "dasa cycle" tables defined in Kalachakra dasa are not arbitrarily defined. There is a nice pattern in them. The dasa cycle of each nakshatra pada shows the 9 signs representing the nava-navamsa (D-81) signs corresponding to the nine equal parts of the nakshatra pada. In Vimsottari dasa, dasas belong to nakshatras and antardasas belong to what Krishnamoorthy calls "subs". Suppose someone is born in Revati star. First dasa of Mercury is basically the dasa of Revati (and its trines, if we are not taking the Tribhagi variation). Next dasa of Ketu is basically the dasa of Aswini. Various antardasas in Ketu dasa belong to various subs within Aswini star. And so on. Similarly, the above mapping suggests that Kalachakra dasa is a progression of Moon's navamsa and antardasas trace this progression thru nava-navamsa within a navamsa (like subs within a nakshatra). This does suggest that the so-called "dasa cycles" are actually intended to be used as antardasa cycles. In fact, one important verse of Parasara on Kalachakra dasa has been ignored by all scholars. The verse says narasya janma kaale vaa prasna kaale yadamsakah tadaadi nava raaseenaamabdaastasyaayuruchyate Literal meaning: Whatever [nav]amsa is active at the time of a person's birth or prasna, years of nine amsas starting from it form the ayu (longevity). This is consistent with Shiva's teaching: janmarkshe chandra lagne vaa prasna kaale yadamsakah tadaadi nava paryantam aayushyam parikalpyataam Literal meaning: Whatever is the [nava]amsa of natal lagna or natal Moon or prasna lagna, upto nine [nav]amsas from it form one's ayush. Interpretation: Most scholars have ignored these verses. Suppose someone is born in Mrigasira 4th pada. The above verse says that ayush (longevity) should be decided by looking at the years of Mrigasira 4th pada (Ar navamsa) and 8 padas after it. But most scholars look at the "dasa cycle" table and find the dasa cycle against Mrigasira 4th pada and take Sg, Sc, Li, Vi, Le, Cn, Ge, Ta and Ar as the dasa cycle. That is inconsistent with the above verse! But, one scholar called Sreeman Tirumala Samudrala Venkata Raghavacharya, who published a Telugu language book called "Kalachakramu" in 1930, did not ignore this verse. According to him, Kalachakra dasa is a progression of Moon's navamsa or lagna's navamsa (just as Vimsottari dasa is a progression of Moon's nakshatra). Suppose someone is born in Mrigasira 4th pada. The first dasa is of Mrigasira 4th pada itself. We start from this pada and go upto 9 padas (navamsas) and get 9 dasas! The nine dasas are Mrigasira 4, Ardra 1, 2, 3, 4, Punarvasu 1, 2, 3, 4. Taking the Kalachakra navamsas of these padas, using tables 1 and 2, we get Ar, Pi, Aq, Cp, Sg, Ar, Ta, Ge and Cn. The amount of the first dasa (Ar) left at birth is decided based on the fraction of Mrigasira 4th pada traversed by Moon. To get the antardasas within each dasa, we refer to the so-called "dasa cycle" tables. For example, antardasas in Mrigasira 4th pada (Aries) dasa will be Krittika 1, Bharani 4, 3, 2, 1, Aswini 4, 3, 2, 1, i.e. Sg, Sc, Li, Vi, Le, Cn, Ge, Ta and Ar. Antardasas in Ardra 1st pada (Pisces) dasa will be Revati 4, 3, 2, 1, Uttarabhadra 4, 3, 2, 1, Poorvabhadra 4, i.e. Pi, Aq, Cp, Sg, Sc, Li, Vi, Le, Cn. And so on. We basically take the nine nava-navamsas within each navamsa and treat them as the antardasas within the mahadasa. In this interpretation, the four paramayushes given by authorities are simply abstract numbers used in dividing the navamsa sign's dasa among the nine antardasas of the nine nava-navamsas within the navamsa. The actual paramayush (longevity) of the person is not necessarily any of those four numbers. It is found by adding the years of the nine amsas starting from Moon's amsa as given in the verses quoted above. Main point: In this approach, Kalachakra dasa progression traces Moon's position progressed thru navamsa. Antardasas within a mahadasa trace Moon's nava-navamsa position within a particular navamsa. The antardasas in each dasa are the nava-navamsas within the navamsa corresponding to the mahadasa! I will give some examples later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 Dear Narasimha, It appears I have hurt your feelings. Believe me there was no such intention on my part. I respect you too much for that. I was only trying to understand the source of meaning attributed to Apasavya as irregular as against anti zodiacal generally accepted by Astrologers and in Sanskrit. I have yet to see the source for the meaning attributed to it. If you are hurt by my sincere query, I crave your pardon. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Narasimha P.V.R. Rao wrote: Namaste friends, I am sending a more detailed write-up than earlier on the basis behind the Kalachakra dasa tables. I don't expect people to agree with me. Please feel free to have a difference of opinion. But, please try to understand my approach before accusing me of inconsistency like Chandrashekhar ji did earlier. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha ----- © 2004, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao, Sri Jagannath Centre Kalachakra Navamsa Lord Shiva taught: bhauma sukra budhendvarka saumya bhrigvaara mantrinah sanirmando guruschaiva navaamsa bhavanaadhipaah Literal Meaning: Mars, Venus, Mercury, Moon, Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Saturn and Jupiter are respectively the navamsa sign lords [in the navamsas of each group of 3 nakshtras]. aswi punarvasu hasta moola proshthapadaadishu trishveshu ganayenmeshaat praadakshinya kramena tu Literal Meaning: In groups of three nakshatras starting from Aswini, Punarvasu, Hasta, Moola and Poorvabhadra, we count zodiacally from Aries. Detailed Meaning: Combining this with the previous verse, we can start from Aries and go zodiacally and get the 12 lords as given. The signs clearly are: Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius and Pisces. Thus, this is the order or navamsa signs for the padas of 3 stars starting from the constellations mentioned above. rohini makha vaisakha vaishnavaadi kramena tu vrischikaadyamsakaanaam apasavya kramena tu Literal Meaning: In groups of three nakshatras starting from Rohini, Makha, Visakha and Sravanam, we count irregularly, starting from Scorpio. Detailed Meaning: Combining this with the first verse, we can start from Scorpio and go backwards irregularly and get the 12 lords as given. The signs clearly are: Scorpio, Libra, Virgo, Cancer, Leo, Gemini, Taurus, Aries, Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn and Sagittarius. Though this progression is basically anti-zodiacal, there are exceptions. These exceptions/special jumps occur due to the constarint on the lordships placed in the first verse. First navamsa is Scorpio, lorded by Mars. Next one is Libra, lorded by Venus. Next one is Virgo, lorded by Mercury. Then Moon, Sun and Mercury must come. So it has to be Cancer, Leo and Gemini. Due to Moon and Sun owning only one sign each, we have these jumps. Thus, this is the order or navamsa signs for the padas of 3 stars starting from Rohini, Makha, Visakha and Sravanam. Chart: Kalachakra navamsa chart is a variation of the normal navamsa chart. It is cast based on the three verses we discussed above. The following mapping makes it clearer (I hope the tables inserted from a Word document come fine in the mail when it appears on the web finally). In fact, Lord Shiva just called it "navamsa" chart and I am calling it "Kalachakra navamsa" only to avoid confusion. Table 1: Kalachakra navamsas in savya nakshatras Stars Aswini Punarvasu Hasta Moola P.Bhadra Bharani Pushyami Chitra P.Shadha U.Bhadra Krittika Asresha Swati U.Shadha Revati Pada 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 Kalachakra Navamsa Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi Lord Mar Ven Mer Moo Sun Mer Ven Mar Jup Sat Sat Jup Table 2: Kalachakra navamsas in apasavya nakshatras Stars Rohini Magha Visakha Sravanam Mrigasira P.Phalguni Anuradha Dhanishtha Ardra U.Phalguni Jyeshtha Satabhishak Pada 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 Kalachakra Navamsa Sc Li Vi Cn Le Ge Ta Ar Pi Aq Cp Sg Lord Mar Ven Mer Moo Sun Mer Ven Mar Jup Sat Sat Jup Using the table above, one can prepare the Kalachakra navamsa chart. Kalachakra Nava-navamsa Nava-navamsa is the D-81 chart. It is the navamsa (1/9th) of the navamsa (1/9th) chart. We divide each sign in the navamsa chart into 9 amsas again! We take the sign in the navamsa chart, treat it as if it were a sign in the rasi chart and find further navamsas in it. One can make the normal cyclical navamsa and a cyclical nava-navamsa based on it. Similarly, one can take this non-cyclical Kalachakra navamsa defined above and make a nava-navamsa chart based on it. Let us take Aswini 1st pada for example. It is obtained by dividing Aries into 9 equal parts and taking the first part. In other words, Aswini 1st pada corresponds to 0 deg in Aries to 3 deg 20 min in Aries. The navamsa sign corresponding to it is Aries. Suppose we divide Aswini 1st pada into 9 parts again, i.e. divide 0 Ar 0 - 3 Ar 20 into 9 equal parts of 22.2222 min. They are the nava-navamsas. How do we find the rasis corresponding to those portions in the D-81 chart? Simple - we treat the navamsa sign (Aries here) as a sign in rasi chart and find navamsa in it. Then we get the nava-navamsa signs of the 9 parts of Aswini 1st pada. If you take Aries sign in which Aswini 1st pada falls in navamsa, treat it as a sign in the rasi chart and find further navamsas in it, you will get Aswini 1, 2, 3, 4, Bharani 1, 2, 3, 4 and Krittika 1 (these are the navamsas in Aries rasi). Nava-navamsa is the navamsa of the navamsa. So the nine nava-navamsas of Aswini 1st pada correspond to the nine signs that are the navamsas corresponding to Aswini 1, 2, 3, 4, Bharani 1, 2, 3, 4 and Krittika 1. Look for the Kalachakra navamsa signs corresponding to Aswini 1, 2, 3, 4, Bharani 1, 2, 3, 4 and Krittika 1 in table 1 and write down the sequence. You will get Ar, Ta, Ge, Cn, Le, Vi, Li, Sc and Sg. So these are the signs in D-81 chart (using the Kalachakra nava-navamsa variation) corresponding to the nine parts of Aswini 1st pada. Intelligent astrologers may notice that this is indeed the dasa table assigned to Aswini 1st pada or Aries in the Kalachakra dasa scheme!! Now, let us take Aswini 2nd pada. It corresponds to 3 Ar 20 - 6 Ar 40. If we divide this portion into 9 equal parts, what signs do they go into in D-81? Simple, we treat the navamsa sign corresponding to Aswini 2nd pada (i.e. Taurus), treat that as a sign in the rasi chart and find navamsas in it! Then we get the nava-navamsa signs of the 9 parts of Aswini 2nd pada. If you take Taurus sign in which Aswini 2nd pada falls in navamsa, treat it as a sign in the rasi chart and find further navamsas in it, you will get Krittika 2, 3, 4, Rohini 1, 2, 3, 4 and Mrigasira 1, 2 (these are the navamsas in Taurus rasi). Nava-navamsa is the navamsa of the navamsa. So the nine nava-navamsas of Aswini 2nd pada correspond to the nine signs that are the navamsas corresponding to Krittika 2, 3, 4, Rohini 1, 2, 3, 4 and Mrigasira 1, 2. Look for the Kalachakra navamsa signs corresponding to Krittika 2, 3, 4, Rohini 1, 2, 3, 4 and Mrigasira 1, 2 in tables 1 and 2 and write down the sequence. You will get Cp, Aq, Pi, Sc, Li, Vi, Cn, Le and Ge. So these are the signs in D-81 chart (using the Kalachakra nava-navamsa variation) corresponding to the nine parts of Aswini 2nd pada. Now, let us take Aswini 3rd pada. It corresponds to 6 Ar 40 - 10 Ar 0. If we divide this portion into 9 equal parts, what signs do they go into in D-81? Simple, we treat the navamsa sign corresponding to Aswini 3rd pada (i.e. Gemini), treat that as a sign in the rasi chart and find navamsas in it! Then we get the nava-navamsa signs of the 9 parts of Aswini 3rd pada. If you take Gemini sign in which Aswini 3rd pada falls in navamsa, treat it as a sign in the rasi chart and find further navamsas in it, you will get Mrigasira 3, 4, Ardra 1, 2, 3, 4 and Punarvasu 1, 2, 3 (these are the navamsas in Gemini rasi). Nava-navamsa is the navamsa of the navamsa. So the nine nava-navamsas of Aswini 3rd pada correspond to the nine signs that are the navamsas corresponding to Mrigasira 3, 4, Ardra 1, 2, 3, 4 and Punarvasu 1, 2, 3. Look for the Kalachakra navamsa signs corresponding to Mrigasira 3, 4, Ardra 1, 2, 3, 4 and Punarvasu 1, 2, 3 in tables 1 and 2 and write down the sequence. You will get Ta, Ar, Pi, Aq, Cp, Sg, Ar, Ta and Ge. So these are the signs in D-81 chart (using the Kalachakra nava-navamsa variation) corresponding to the nine parts of Aswini 3rd pada. Similarly, we can derive the 9 signs representing the nine parts of each nakshatra pada, in D-81 chart. If you finish that exercise carefully, you will notice that the so-called "dasa cycles" given in Kalachakra dasa for various nakshatra padas are nothing but the nava-navamsas in that nakshatra pada. Only tricky issue is that these are reversed in apasavya nakshatras. Let us see why. The navamsa corresponding to Aswini 1st pada is Aries. When we find the navamsas of the padas of Aswini, they go as Ar, Ta, Ge etc. We are progressing in the zodiacal direction and, when we divide Aries into 9 navamsas further, we get from Aswini 1st pada to Krittika 1st pada. The navamsa corresponding to Mrigasira 4th pada is also Aries (see table 2). However, when we find the navamsas of the padas of Mrigasira, they go as Ge, Ta, Ar etc. We are progressing in the reverse order. We are going to Ar from Ta. So we start from the end of Ar and go to the beginning of Ar. So the nine equal parts of Mrigasira 4th pada (3 Ge 20 - 6 Ge 40) are mapped to the navamsa signs corresponding to Krittika 1, Bharani 4, 3, 2, 1, Aswini 4, 3, 2, 1. In other words, first 22.2222 minutes of Mrigasira 4th pada are mapped to Sg in D-81, next 22.2222 min of Mrigasira 4th pada are mapped to Sc in D-81 and so on. This is why there is a reversal of dasa cycle in apasavya nakshatras! Kalachakra Dasa Tables As explained above, the so-called "dasa cycle" tables defined in Kalachakra dasa are not arbitrarily defined. There is a nice pattern in them. The dasa cycle of each nakshatra pada shows the 9 signs representing the nava-navamsa (D-81) signs corresponding to the nine equal parts of the nakshatra pada. In Vimsottari dasa, dasas belong to nakshatras and antardasas belong to what Krishnamoorthy calls "subs". Suppose someone is born in Revati star. First dasa of Mercury is basically the dasa of Revati (and its trines, if we are not taking the Tribhagi variation). Next dasa of Ketu is basically the dasa of Aswini. Various antardasas in Ketu dasa belong to various subs within Aswini star. And so on. Similarly, the above mapping suggests that Kalachakra dasa is a progression of Moon's navamsa and antardasas trace this progression thru nava-navamsa within a navamsa (like subs within a nakshatra). This does suggest that the so-called "dasa cycles" are actually intended to be used as antardasa cycles. In fact, one important verse of Parasara on Kalachakra dasa has been ignored by all scholars. The verse says narasya janma kaale vaa prasna kaale yadamsakah tadaadi nava raaseenaamabdaastasyaayuruchyate Literal meaning: Whatever [nav]amsa is active at the time of a person's birth or prasna, years of nine amsas starting from it form the ayu (longevity). This is consistent with Shiva's teaching: janmarkshe chandra lagne vaa prasna kaale yadamsakah tadaadi nava paryantam aayushyam parikalpyataam Literal meaning: Whatever is the [nava]amsa of natal lagna or natal Moon or prasna lagna, upto nine [nav]amsas from it form one's ayush. Interpretation: Most scholars have ignored these verses. Suppose someone is born in Mrigasira 4th pada. The above verse says that ayush (longevity) should be decided by looking at the years of Mrigasira 4th pada (Ar navamsa) and 8 padas after it. But most scholars look at the "dasa cycle" table and find the dasa cycle against Mrigasira 4th pada and take Sg, Sc, Li, Vi, Le, Cn, Ge, Ta and Ar as the dasa cycle. That is inconsistent with the above verse! But, one scholar called Sreeman Tirumala Samudrala Venkata Raghavacharya, who published a Telugu language book called "Kalachakramu" in 1930, did not ignore this verse. According to him, Kalachakra dasa is a progression of Moon's navamsa or lagna's navamsa (just as Vimsottari dasa is a progression of Moon's nakshatra). Suppose someone is born in Mrigasira 4th pada. The first dasa is of Mrigasira 4th pada itself. We start from this pada and go upto 9 padas (navamsas) and get 9 dasas! The nine dasas are Mrigasira 4, Ardra 1, 2, 3, 4, Punarvasu 1, 2, 3, 4. Taking the Kalachakra navamsas of these padas, using tables 1 and 2, we get Ar, Pi, Aq, Cp, Sg, Ar, Ta, Ge and Cn. The amount of the first dasa (Ar) left at birth is decided based on the fraction of Mrigasira 4th pada traversed by Moon. To get the antardasas within each dasa, we refer to the so-called "dasa cycle" tables. For example, antardasas in Mrigasira 4th pada (Aries) dasa will be Krittika 1, Bharani 4, 3, 2, 1, Aswini 4, 3, 2, 1, i.e. Sg, Sc, Li, Vi, Le, Cn, Ge, Ta and Ar. Antardasas in Ardra 1st pada (Pisces) dasa will be Revati 4, 3, 2, 1, Uttarabhadra 4, 3, 2, 1, Poorvabhadra 4, i.e. Pi, Aq, Cp, Sg, Sc, Li, Vi, Le, Cn. And so on. We basically take the nine nava-navamsas within each navamsa and treat them as the antardasas within the mahadasa. In this interpretation, the four paramayushes given by authorities are simply abstract numbers used in dividing the navamsa sign's dasa among the nine antardasas of the nine nava-navamsas within the navamsa. The actual paramayush (longevity) of the person is not necessarily any of those four numbers. It is found by adding the years of the nine amsas starting from Moon's amsa as given in the verses quoted above. Main point: In this approach, Kalachakra dasa progression traces Moon's position progressed thru navamsa. Antardasas within a mahadasa trace Moon's nava-navamsa position within a particular navamsa. The antardasas in each dasa are the nava-navamsas within the navamsa corresponding to the mahadasa! I will give some examples later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Narasimhaji, Thanks for such a wonderful explanation, > bhauma sukra budhendvarka saumya bhrigvaara mantrinah > sanirmando guruschaiva navaamsa bhavanaadhipaah > > Literal Meaning: Mars, Venus, Mercury, Moon, Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Saturn and Jupiter are respectively the navamsa sign lords [in the navamsas of each group of 3 nakshtras]. I am able to make some sense in the whole patter given by Parasara Rishi. It's indeed interesting to note that this sequence of lords is maintained in forward direction in Savya naxatra and in reverse order in apasavaya. Savya Order -> Ma,Ve,Me,Mo,Su,Me,Ve,Ma,Ju, [sa,Sa,Ju],Ma,Ve,Me,Mo,Su,Me,Ve,Ma,Ju,[sa,Sa,Ju]..... Zodial Rasi lords order from Aries. Apsavya Order -> Ju,Sa,Sa,Ju,Ma,Ve,Me,Su,Mo,Me,Ve,Ma,Ju,Sa,Sa,Ju,Ma,Ve,Me,Su,Mo,Me,Ve, Ma,....... Reverse Zodial Rasi Lords order. From Pisces So the apasavya is actually regular reverse order but only on Lordship level not on Rasi level. This may actually answer Shree Chandrashekarji' Question as to why '...understand the source of meaning attributed to Apasavya as irregular as against anti zodiacal generally accepted by Astrologers and in Sanskrit.' Below I have given the list of Dasa lords for the various Pada. Students may benefit reading Narasimhaji's earlier lesson for the dasa orders http://www.vedicastrologer.org/lec02/initfrm.htm "Savya-I" Constellations: Aswini, Krittika, Punarvasu, Asresha, Hasta, Swati, Moola, Uttarashadha, Poorvabhadra, Revati Pada Dasa Sequence Paramaayush 1st Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg 100 Ma,Ve,Me,Mo,Su,Me,Ve,Ma,Ju ->Continue to 2nd pada 2nd Cp Aq Pi Sc Li Vi Cn Le Ge 85 Sa,Sa,Ju,Ma,Ve,Me,Mo,Su,Me ->Continue to 3rd pada 3rd Ta Ar Pi Aq Cp Sg Ar Ta Ge 83 Ve,Ma,Ju,Sa,Sa,Ju,Ma,Ve,Me -> Continue to 4th Pada 4th Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi 86 Mo,Su,Me,Ve,Ma,Ju,Sa,Sa,Ju -> Continue to 1st Pada in Savya "Savya-II" Constellations: Bharani, Pushyami, Chitra, Poorvashadha, Uttarabhadrapada Pada Dasa Sequence Paramaayush 1st Sc Li Vi Cn Le Ge Ta Ar Pi 100 Ma,Ve,Me,Mo,Su,Me,Ve,Ma,Ju 2nd Aq Cp Sg Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi 85 Sa,Sa,Ju,Ma,Ve,Me,Mo,Su,Me 3rd Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi Sc Li Vi 83 Ve,Ma,Ju,Sa,Sa,Ju,Ma,Ve,Me 4th Cn Le Ge Ta Ar Pi Aq Cp Sg 86 Mo,Su,Me,Ve,Ma,Ju,Sa,Sa,Ju "Apasavya-I" Constellations: Rohini, Makha, Visakha, Sravanam Pada, Dasa Sequence, Paramaayush 1st Sg Cp Aq Pi Ar Ta Ge Le Cn 86 Ju,Sa,Sa,Ju,Ma,Ve,Me,Su,Mo --> Continue reverse to 2nd pada 2nd Vi Li Sc Pi Aq Cp Sg Sc Li 83 Me,Ve,Ma,Ju,Sa,Sa,Ju,Ma,Ve--> Continue reverse to 3nd pada 3rd Vi Le Cn Ge Ta Ar Sg Cp Aq 85 Me,Su,Mo,Me,Ve,Ma,Ju,Sa,Sa --> Continue reverse to 4nd pada 4th Pi Ar Ta Ge Le Cn Vi Li Sc 100 Ju,Ma,Ve,Me,Su,Mo,Me,Ve,Ma --> Continue reverse to 1nd pada "Apasavya-II" Constellations: Mrigasira, Ardra, Poorvaphalguni, Uttaraphalguni, Anuradha, Jyeshtha, Dhanishtha, Satabhisha Pada Dasa Sequence Paramaayush 1st Pi Aq Cp Sg Sc Li Vi Le Cn 86 Ju,Sa,Sa,Ju,Ma,Ve,Me,Su,Mo 2nd Ge Ta Ar Sg Cp Aq Pi Ar Ta 83 Me,Ve,Ma,Ju,Sa,Sa,Ju,Ma,Ve 3rd Ge Le Cn Vi Li Sc Pi Aq Cp 85 Me,Su,Mo,Me,Ve,Ma,Ju,Sa,Sa 4th Sg Sc Li Vi Le Cn Ge Ta Ar 100 Ju,Ma,Ve,Me,Su,Mo,Me,Ve,Ma Hope my understanding is correct. Warm Regards Sanjay P. Om Tat Sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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