Jump to content
IndiaDivine.org

Kalachakra Dasa Table Logic and Raghavacharya's Method

Rate this topic


Guest guest

Recommended Posts

Namaste friends,

 

I am sending a more detailed write-up than earlier on the basis behind the

Kalachakra dasa tables. I don't expect people to agree with me. Please feel

free to have a difference of opinion. But, please try to understand my approach

before accusing me of inconsistency like Chandrashekhar ji did earlier.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

-----

 

© 2004, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao, Sri Jagannath Centre

 

Kalachakra Navamsa

 

Lord Shiva taught:

 

bhauma sukra budhendvarka saumya bhrigvaara mantrinah

sanirmando guruschaiva navaamsa bhavanaadhipaah

 

Literal Meaning: Mars, Venus, Mercury, Moon, Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter,

Saturn, Saturn and Jupiter are respectively the navamsa sign lords [in the

navamsas of each group of 3 nakshtras].

 

aswi punarvasu hasta moola proshthapadaadishu

trishveshu ganayenmeshaat praadakshinya kramena tu

 

Literal Meaning: In groups of three nakshatras starting from Aswini, Punarvasu,

Hasta, Moola and Poorvabhadra, we count zodiacally from Aries.

 

Detailed Meaning: Combining this with the previous verse, we can start from

Aries and go zodiacally and get the 12 lords as given. The signs clearly are:

Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius,

Capricorn, Aquarius and Pisces.

 

Thus, this is the order or navamsa signs for the padas of 3 stars starting from

the constellations mentioned above.

 

rohini makha vaisakha vaishnavaadi kramena tu

vrischikaadyamsakaanaam apasavya kramena tu

 

Literal Meaning: In groups of three nakshatras starting from Rohini, Makha,

Visakha and Sravanam, we count irregularly, starting from Scorpio.

 

Detailed Meaning: Combining this with the first verse, we can start from Scorpio

and go backwards irregularly and get the 12 lords as given. The signs clearly

are: Scorpio, Libra, Virgo, Cancer, Leo, Gemini, Taurus, Aries, Pisces,

Aquarius, Capricorn and Sagittarius. Though this progression is basically

anti-zodiacal, there are exceptions. These exceptions/special jumps occur due

to the constarint on the lordships placed in the first verse. First navamsa is

Scorpio, lorded by Mars. Next one is Libra, lorded by Venus. Next one is Virgo,

lorded by Mercury. Then Moon, Sun and Mercury must come. So it has to be Cancer,

Leo and Gemini. Due to Moon and Sun owning only one sign each, we have these

jumps.

 

Thus, this is the order or navamsa signs for the padas of 3 stars starting from

Rohini, Makha, Visakha and Sravanam.

 

Chart: Kalachakra navamsa chart is a variation of the normal navamsa chart. It

is cast based on the three verses we discussed above. The following mapping

makes it clearer (I hope the tables inserted from a Word document come fine in

the mail when it appears on the web finally).

 

In fact, Lord Shiva just called it "navamsa" chart and I am calling it

"Kalachakra navamsa" only to avoid confusion.

 

Table 1: Kalachakra navamsas in savya nakshatras

Stars

Aswini

Punarvasu

Hasta

Moola

P.Bhadra

Bharani

Pushyami

Chitra

P.Shadha

U.Bhadra

Krittika

Asresha

Swati

U.Shadha

Revati

Pada

1

2

3

4

1

2

3

4

1

2

3

4

Kalachakra Navamsa

Ar

Ta

Ge

Cn

Le

Vi

Li

Sc

Sg

Cp

Aq

Pi

Lord

Mar

Ven

Mer

Moo

Sun

Mer

Ven

Mar

Jup

Sat

Sat

Jup

Table 2: Kalachakra navamsas in apasavya nakshatras

Stars

Rohini

Magha

Visakha

Sravanam

Mrigasira

P.Phalguni

Anuradha

Dhanishtha

Ardra

U.Phalguni

Jyeshtha

Satabhishak

Pada

1

2

3

4

1

2

3

4

1

2

3

4

Kalachakra Navamsa

Sc

Li

Vi

Cn

Le

Ge

Ta

Ar

Pi

Aq

Cp

Sg

Lord

Mar

Ven

Mer

Moo

Sun

Mer

Ven

Mar

Jup

Sat

Sat

Jup

 

Using the table above, one can prepare the Kalachakra navamsa chart.

 

Kalachakra Nava-navamsa

Nava-navamsa is the D-81 chart. It is the navamsa (1/9th) of the navamsa (1/9th)

chart. We divide each sign in the navamsa chart into 9 amsas again! We take the

sign in the navamsa chart, treat it as if it were a sign in the rasi chart and

find further navamsas in it.

 

One can make the normal cyclical navamsa and a cyclical nava-navamsa based on

it. Similarly, one can take this non-cyclical Kalachakra navamsa defined above

and make a nava-navamsa chart based on it.

 

Let us take Aswini 1st pada for example. It is obtained by dividing Aries into 9

equal parts and taking the first part. In other words, Aswini 1st pada

corresponds to 0 deg in Aries to 3 deg 20 min in Aries. The navamsa sign

corresponding to it is Aries. Suppose we divide Aswini 1st pada into 9 parts

again, i.e. divide 0 Ar 0 - 3 Ar 20 into 9 equal parts of 22.2222 min. They are

the nava-navamsas. How do we find the rasis corresponding to those portions in

the D-81 chart?

 

Simple - we treat the navamsa sign (Aries here) as a sign in rasi chart and find

navamsa in it. Then we get the nava-navamsa signs of the 9 parts of Aswini 1st

pada.

 

If you take Aries sign in which Aswini 1st pada falls in navamsa, treat it as a

sign in the rasi chart and find further navamsas in it, you will get Aswini 1,

2, 3, 4, Bharani 1, 2, 3, 4 and Krittika 1 (these are the navamsas in Aries

rasi). Nava-navamsa is the navamsa of the navamsa.

 

So the nine nava-navamsas of Aswini 1st pada correspond to the nine signs that

are the navamsas corresponding to Aswini 1, 2, 3, 4, Bharani 1, 2, 3, 4 and

Krittika 1. Look for the Kalachakra navamsa signs corresponding to Aswini 1, 2,

3, 4, Bharani 1, 2, 3, 4 and Krittika 1 in table 1 and write down the sequence.

You will get Ar, Ta, Ge, Cn, Le, Vi, Li, Sc and Sg. So these are the signs in

D-81 chart (using the Kalachakra nava-navamsa variation) corresponding to the

nine parts of Aswini 1st pada.

 

Intelligent astrologers may notice that this is indeed the dasa table assigned

to Aswini 1st pada or Aries in the Kalachakra dasa scheme!!

 

Now, let us take Aswini 2nd pada. It corresponds to 3 Ar 20 - 6 Ar 40. If we

divide this portion into 9 equal parts, what signs do they go into in D-81?

 

Simple, we treat the navamsa sign corresponding to Aswini 2nd pada (i.e.

Taurus), treat that as a sign in the rasi chart and find navamsas in it! Then

we get the nava-navamsa signs of the 9 parts of Aswini 2nd pada.

 

If you take Taurus sign in which Aswini 2nd pada falls in navamsa, treat it as a

sign in the rasi chart and find further navamsas in it, you will get Krittika 2,

3, 4, Rohini 1, 2, 3, 4 and Mrigasira 1, 2 (these are the navamsas in Taurus

rasi). Nava-navamsa is the navamsa of the navamsa.

 

So the nine nava-navamsas of Aswini 2nd pada correspond to the nine signs that

are the navamsas corresponding to Krittika 2, 3, 4, Rohini 1, 2, 3, 4 and

Mrigasira 1, 2. Look for the Kalachakra navamsa signs corresponding to Krittika

2, 3, 4, Rohini 1, 2, 3, 4 and Mrigasira 1, 2 in tables 1 and 2 and write down

the sequence. You will get Cp, Aq, Pi, Sc, Li, Vi, Cn, Le and Ge. So these are

the signs in D-81 chart (using the Kalachakra nava-navamsa variation)

corresponding to the nine parts of Aswini 2nd pada.

 

Now, let us take Aswini 3rd pada. It corresponds to 6 Ar 40 - 10 Ar 0. If we

divide this portion into 9 equal parts, what signs do they go into in D-81?

 

Simple, we treat the navamsa sign corresponding to Aswini 3rd pada (i.e.

Gemini), treat that as a sign in the rasi chart and find navamsas in it! Then

we get the nava-navamsa signs of the 9 parts of Aswini 3rd pada.

 

If you take Gemini sign in which Aswini 3rd pada falls in navamsa, treat it as a

sign in the rasi chart and find further navamsas in it, you will get Mrigasira

3, 4, Ardra 1, 2, 3, 4 and Punarvasu 1, 2, 3 (these are the navamsas in Gemini

rasi). Nava-navamsa is the navamsa of the navamsa.

 

So the nine nava-navamsas of Aswini 3rd pada correspond to the nine signs that

are the navamsas corresponding to Mrigasira 3, 4, Ardra 1, 2, 3, 4 and

Punarvasu 1, 2, 3. Look for the Kalachakra navamsa signs corresponding to

Mrigasira 3, 4, Ardra 1, 2, 3, 4 and Punarvasu 1, 2, 3 in tables 1 and 2 and

write down the sequence. You will get Ta, Ar, Pi, Aq, Cp, Sg, Ar, Ta and Ge. So

these are the signs in D-81 chart (using the Kalachakra nava-navamsa variation)

corresponding to the nine parts of Aswini 3rd pada.

 

Similarly, we can derive the 9 signs representing the nine parts of each

nakshatra pada, in D-81 chart. If you finish that exercise carefully, you will

notice that the so-called "dasa cycles" given in Kalachakra dasa for various

nakshatra padas are nothing but the nava-navamsas in that nakshatra pada.

 

Only tricky issue is that these are reversed in apasavya nakshatras. Let us see why.

 

The navamsa corresponding to Aswini 1st pada is Aries. When we find the navamsas

of the padas of Aswini, they go as Ar, Ta, Ge etc. We are progressing in the

zodiacal direction and, when we divide Aries into 9 navamsas further, we get

from Aswini 1st pada to Krittika 1st pada.

 

The navamsa corresponding to Mrigasira 4th pada is also Aries (see table 2).

However, when we find the navamsas of the padas of Mrigasira, they go as Ge,

Ta, Ar etc. We are progressing in the reverse order. We are going to Ar from

Ta. So we start from the end of Ar and go to the beginning of Ar. So the nine

equal parts of Mrigasira 4th pada (3 Ge 20 - 6 Ge 40) are mapped to the navamsa

signs corresponding to Krittika 1, Bharani 4, 3, 2, 1, Aswini 4, 3, 2, 1. In

other words, first 22.2222 minutes of Mrigasira 4th pada are mapped to Sg in

D-81, next 22.2222 min of Mrigasira 4th pada are mapped to Sc in D-81 and so

on. This is why there is a reversal of dasa cycle in apasavya nakshatras!

 

Kalachakra Dasa Tables

 

As explained above, the so-called "dasa cycle" tables defined in Kalachakra dasa

are not arbitrarily defined. There is a nice pattern in them. The dasa cycle of

each nakshatra pada shows the 9 signs representing the nava-navamsa (D-81)

signs corresponding to the nine equal parts of the nakshatra pada.

 

In Vimsottari dasa, dasas belong to nakshatras and antardasas belong to what

Krishnamoorthy calls "subs". Suppose someone is born in Revati star. First dasa

of Mercury is basically the dasa of Revati (and its trines, if we are not taking

the Tribhagi variation). Next dasa of Ketu is basically the dasa of Aswini.

Various antardasas in Ketu dasa belong to various subs within Aswini star. And

so on.

 

Similarly, the above mapping suggests that Kalachakra dasa is a progression of

Moon's navamsa and antardasas trace this progression thru nava-navamsa within a

navamsa (like subs within a nakshatra).

 

This does suggest that the so-called "dasa cycles" are actually intended to be

used as antardasa cycles.

 

In fact, one important verse of Parasara on Kalachakra dasa has been ignored by

all scholars. The verse says

 

narasya janma kaale vaa prasna kaale yadamsakah

tadaadi nava raaseenaamabdaastasyaayuruchyate

 

Literal meaning: Whatever [nav]amsa is active at the time of a person's birth or

prasna, years of nine amsas starting from it form the ayu (longevity).

 

This is consistent with Shiva's teaching:

 

janmarkshe chandra lagne vaa prasna kaale yadamsakah

tadaadi nava paryantam aayushyam parikalpyataam

 

Literal meaning: Whatever is the [nava]amsa of natal lagna or natal Moon or

prasna lagna, upto nine [nav]amsas from it form one's ayush.

 

Interpretation: Most scholars have ignored these verses. Suppose someone is born

in Mrigasira 4th pada. The above verse says that ayush (longevity) should be

decided by looking at the years of Mrigasira 4th pada (Ar navamsa) and 8 padas

after it. But most scholars look at the "dasa cycle" table and find the dasa

cycle against Mrigasira 4th pada and take Sg, Sc, Li, Vi, Le, Cn, Ge, Ta and Ar

as the dasa cycle. That is inconsistent with the above verse!

 

But, one scholar called Sreeman Tirumala Samudrala Venkata Raghavacharya, who

published a Telugu language book called "Kalachakramu" in 1930, did not ignore

this verse. According to him, Kalachakra dasa is a progression of Moon's

navamsa or lagna's navamsa (just as Vimsottari dasa is a progression of Moon's

nakshatra).

 

Suppose someone is born in Mrigasira 4th pada. The first dasa is of Mrigasira

4th pada itself. We start from this pada and go upto 9 padas (navamsas) and get

9 dasas! The nine dasas are Mrigasira 4, Ardra 1, 2, 3, 4, Punarvasu 1, 2, 3, 4.

Taking the Kalachakra navamsas of these padas, using tables 1 and 2, we get Ar,

Pi, Aq, Cp, Sg, Ar, Ta, Ge and Cn. The amount of the first dasa (Ar) left at

birth is decided based on the fraction of Mrigasira 4th pada traversed by Moon.

 

To get the antardasas within each dasa, we refer to the so-called "dasa cycle"

tables. For example, antardasas in Mrigasira 4th pada (Aries) dasa will be

Krittika 1, Bharani 4, 3, 2, 1, Aswini 4, 3, 2, 1, i.e. Sg, Sc, Li, Vi, Le, Cn,

Ge, Ta and Ar. Antardasas in Ardra 1st pada (Pisces) dasa will be Revati 4, 3,

2, 1, Uttarabhadra 4, 3, 2, 1, Poorvabhadra 4, i.e. Pi, Aq, Cp, Sg, Sc, Li, Vi,

Le, Cn. And so on.

 

We basically take the nine nava-navamsas within each navamsa and treat them as

the antardasas within the mahadasa.

 

In this interpretation, the four paramayushes given by authorities are simply

abstract numbers used in dividing the navamsa sign's dasa among the nine

antardasas of the nine nava-navamsas within the navamsa. The actual paramayush

(longevity) of the person is not necessarily any of those four numbers. It is

found by adding the years of the nine amsas starting from Moon's amsa as given

in the verses quoted above.

 

Main point: In this approach, Kalachakra dasa progression traces Moon's position

progressed thru navamsa. Antardasas within a mahadasa trace Moon's nava-navamsa

position within a particular navamsa. The antardasas in each dasa are the

nava-navamsas within the navamsa corresponding to the mahadasa!

 

I will give some examples later.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Dear Narasimha,

It appears I have hurt your feelings. Believe me there was no such

intention on my part. I respect you too much for that. I was only

trying to understand the source of meaning attributed to Apasavya as

irregular as against anti zodiacal generally accepted by Astrologers

and in Sanskrit. I have yet to see the source for the meaning

attributed to it.

If you are hurt by my sincere query, I crave your pardon.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao wrote:

Namaste friends,

 

I am sending a more detailed

write-up than earlier on the basis behind the Kalachakra dasa tables. I

don't expect people to agree with me. Please feel free to have a

difference of opinion. But, please try to understand my approach before

accusing me of inconsistency like Chandrashekhar ji did earlier.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

-----

 

© 2004, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao, Sri

Jagannath Centre

 

Kalachakra Navamsa

 

Lord Shiva taught:

 

bhauma sukra budhendvarka saumya

bhrigvaara mantrinah

sanirmando guruschaiva navaamsa

bhavanaadhipaah

 

Literal Meaning:

Mars, Venus, Mercury, Moon, Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn,

Saturn and Jupiter are respectively the navamsa sign lords [in the

navamsas of each group of 3 nakshtras].

 

aswi punarvasu hasta moola

proshthapadaadishu

trishveshu ganayenmeshaat

praadakshinya kramena tu

 

Literal Meaning: In

groups of three nakshatras starting from Aswini, Punarvasu, Hasta,

Moola and Poorvabhadra, we count zodiacally from Aries.

 

Detailed Meaning:

Combining this with the previous verse, we can start from Aries and go

zodiacally and get the 12 lords as given. The signs clearly are: Aries,

Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius,

Capricorn, Aquarius and Pisces.

 

Thus, this is the order or navamsa

signs for the padas of 3 stars starting from the constellations

mentioned above.

 

rohini makha vaisakha

vaishnavaadi kramena tu

vrischikaadyamsakaanaam apasavya

kramena tu

 

Literal Meaning: In

groups of three nakshatras starting from Rohini, Makha, Visakha

and Sravanam, we count irregularly, starting from Scorpio.

 

Detailed Meaning:

Combining this with the first verse, we can start from Scorpio and go

backwards irregularly and get the 12 lords as given. The signs clearly

are: Scorpio, Libra, Virgo, Cancer, Leo, Gemini, Taurus, Aries, Pisces,

Aquarius, Capricorn and Sagittarius. Though this progression is

basically anti-zodiacal, there are exceptions. These exceptions/special

jumps occur due to the constarint on the lordships placed in the first

verse. First navamsa is Scorpio, lorded by Mars. Next one is Libra,

lorded by Venus. Next one is Virgo, lorded by Mercury. Then Moon, Sun

and Mercury must come. So it has to be Cancer, Leo and Gemini. Due to

Moon and Sun owning only one sign each, we have these jumps.

 

Thus, this is the order or navamsa

signs for the padas of 3 stars starting from Rohini, Makha, Visakha

and Sravanam.

 

Chart:

Kalachakra navamsa chart is a variation of the normal navamsa chart. It

is cast based on the three verses we discussed above. The following

mapping makes it clearer (I hope the tables inserted from a Word

document come fine in the mail when it appears on the web finally).

 

In fact, Lord Shiva just called it

"navamsa" chart and I am calling it "Kalachakra navamsa" only to avoid

confusion.

 

Table

1: Kalachakra navamsas in savya

nakshatras

Stars

Aswini

Punarvasu

Hasta

Moola

P.Bhadra

Bharani

Pushyami

Chitra

P.Shadha

U.Bhadra

Krittika

Asresha

Swati

U.Shadha

Revati

Pada

1

2

3

4

1

2

3

4

1

2

3

4

Kalachakra

Navamsa

Ar

Ta

Ge

Cn

Le

Vi

Li

Sc

Sg

Cp

Aq

Pi

Lord

Mar

Ven

Mer

Moo

Sun

Mer

Ven

Mar

Jup

Sat

Sat

Jup

 

 

Table

2: Kalachakra navamsas in apasavya

nakshatras

Stars

Rohini

Magha

Visakha

Sravanam

Mrigasira

P.Phalguni

Anuradha

Dhanishtha

Ardra

U.Phalguni

Jyeshtha

Satabhishak

Pada

1

2

3

4

1

2

3

4

1

2

3

4

Kalachakra

Navamsa

Sc

Li

Vi

Cn

Le

Ge

Ta

Ar

Pi

Aq

Cp

Sg

Lord

Mar

Ven

Mer

Moo

Sun

Mer

Ven

Mar

Jup

Sat

Sat

Jup

 

Using the table above, one can prepare the

Kalachakra navamsa chart.

 

Kalachakra Nava-navamsa

Nava-navamsa is the D-81 chart. It is

the navamsa (1/9th) of the navamsa (1/9th) chart. We divide each sign

in the navamsa chart into 9 amsas again! We take the sign in the

navamsa chart, treat it as if it were a sign in the rasi chart and find

further navamsas in it.

 

One

can make the normal cyclical navamsa and a cyclical nava-navamsa based

on it. Similarly, one can take this non-cyclical Kalachakra navamsa

defined above and make a nava-navamsa chart based on it.

 

Let us take Aswini 1st pada for

example. It is obtained by dividing Aries into 9 equal parts and taking

the first part. In other words, Aswini 1st pada corresponds to 0 deg in

Aries to 3 deg 20 min in Aries. The navamsa sign corresponding to it is

Aries. Suppose we divide Aswini 1st pada into 9 parts again, i.e.

divide 0 Ar 0 - 3 Ar 20 into 9 equal parts of 22.2222 min. They are the

nava-navamsas. How do we find the rasis corresponding to those portions

in the D-81 chart?

 

Simple - we treat the navamsa sign

(Aries here) as a sign in rasi chart and find navamsa in it. Then we

get the nava-navamsa signs of the 9 parts of Aswini 1st pada.

 

If you take Aries sign in which

Aswini 1st pada falls in navamsa, treat it as a sign in the rasi

chart and find further navamsas in it, you will get Aswini 1, 2, 3, 4,

Bharani 1, 2, 3, 4 and Krittika 1 (these are the navamsas in Aries

rasi). Nava-navamsa is the navamsa of the navamsa.

 

So the nine nava-navamsas of Aswini

1st pada correspond to the nine signs that are the navamsas

corresponding to Aswini 1, 2, 3, 4, Bharani 1, 2, 3, 4 and Krittika 1.

Look for the Kalachakra navamsa signs corresponding to Aswini 1, 2, 3,

4, Bharani 1, 2, 3, 4 and Krittika 1 in table 1 and write down the

sequence. You will get Ar, Ta, Ge, Cn, Le, Vi, Li, Sc and Sg. So these

are the signs in D-81 chart (using the Kalachakra nava-navamsa

variation) corresponding to the nine parts of Aswini 1st pada.

 

Intelligent astrologers may notice

that this is indeed the dasa table assigned to Aswini 1st pada or Aries

in the Kalachakra dasa scheme!!

 

Now, let us take Aswini 2nd pada. It

corresponds to 3 Ar 20 - 6 Ar 40. If we divide this portion into 9

equal parts, what signs do they go into in D-81?

 

Simple, we treat the navamsa sign

corresponding to Aswini 2nd pada (i.e. Taurus), treat that as a sign in

the rasi chart and find navamsas in it! Then we get the nava-navamsa

signs of the 9 parts of Aswini 2nd pada.

 

If

you take Taurus sign in which Aswini 2nd pada falls in navamsa, treat

it as a sign in the rasi chart and find further navamsas in it, you

will get Krittika 2, 3, 4, Rohini 1, 2, 3, 4 and Mrigasira 1, 2 (these

are the navamsas in Taurus rasi). Nava-navamsa is the navamsa of the

navamsa.

 

So the nine nava-navamsas of Aswini 2nd

pada correspond to the nine signs that are the navamsas corresponding

to Krittika 2, 3, 4, Rohini 1, 2, 3, 4 and Mrigasira 1, 2. Look for the

Kalachakra navamsa signs corresponding to Krittika 2, 3, 4, Rohini 1,

2, 3, 4 and Mrigasira 1, 2 in tables 1 and 2 and write down the

sequence. You will get Cp, Aq, Pi, Sc, Li, Vi, Cn, Le and Ge. So these

are the signs in D-81 chart (using the Kalachakra nava-navamsa

variation) corresponding to the nine parts of Aswini 2nd pada.

 

Now, let

us take Aswini 3rd pada. It corresponds to 6 Ar 40 - 10 Ar 0. If we

divide this portion into 9 equal parts, what signs do they go into in

D-81?

 

Simple,

we treat the navamsa sign corresponding to Aswini 3rd pada (i.e.

Gemini), treat that as a sign in the rasi chart and find navamsas in

it! Then we get the nava-navamsa signs of the 9 parts of Aswini 3rd

pada.

 

If you take Gemini sign in which

Aswini 3rd pada falls in navamsa, treat it as a sign in the rasi

chart and find further navamsas in it, you will get Mrigasira 3, 4,

Ardra 1, 2, 3, 4 and Punarvasu 1, 2, 3 (these are the navamsas in

Gemini rasi). Nava-navamsa is the navamsa of the navamsa.

 

So the

nine nava-navamsas of Aswini 3rd pada correspond to the nine signs that

are the navamsas corresponding to Mrigasira 3, 4, Ardra 1, 2, 3, 4 and

Punarvasu 1, 2, 3. Look for the Kalachakra navamsa signs corresponding

to Mrigasira 3, 4, Ardra 1, 2, 3, 4 and Punarvasu 1, 2, 3 in tables 1

and 2 and write down the sequence. You will get Ta, Ar, Pi, Aq, Cp, Sg,

Ar, Ta and Ge. So these are the signs in D-81 chart (using the

Kalachakra nava-navamsa variation) corresponding to the nine parts of

Aswini 3rd pada.

 

Similarly,

we can derive the 9 signs representing the nine parts of each nakshatra

pada, in D-81 chart. If you finish that exercise carefully, you will

notice that the so-called "dasa cycles" given in Kalachakra dasa for

various nakshatra padas are nothing but the nava-navamsas in that

nakshatra pada.

 

Only

tricky issue is that these are reversed in apasavya nakshatras. Let us

see why.

 

The

navamsa corresponding to Aswini 1st pada is Aries. When we find the

navamsas of the padas of Aswini, they go as Ar, Ta, Ge etc. We are

progressing in the zodiacal direction and, when we divide Aries into 9

navamsas further, we get from Aswini 1st pada to Krittika 1st pada.

 

The

navamsa corresponding to Mrigasira 4th pada is also Aries (see table

2). However, when we find the navamsas of the padas of Mrigasira, they

go as Ge, Ta, Ar etc. We are progressing in the reverse order. We are

going to Ar from Ta. So we start from the end of Ar and go to the

beginning of Ar. So the nine equal parts of Mrigasira 4th pada (3 Ge 20

- 6 Ge 40) are mapped to the navamsa signs corresponding to Krittika 1,

Bharani 4, 3, 2, 1, Aswini 4, 3, 2, 1. In other words, first 22.2222

minutes of Mrigasira 4th pada are mapped to Sg in D-81, next 22.2222

min of Mrigasira 4th pada are mapped to Sc in D-81 and so on. This is

why there is a reversal of dasa cycle in apasavya nakshatras!

 

Kalachakra Dasa Tables

 

As

explained above, the so-called "dasa cycle" tables defined in

Kalachakra dasa are not arbitrarily defined. There is a nice pattern in

them. The dasa cycle of each nakshatra pada shows the 9 signs

representing the nava-navamsa (D-81) signs corresponding to the nine

equal parts of the nakshatra pada.

 

In

Vimsottari dasa, dasas belong to nakshatras and antardasas belong to

what Krishnamoorthy calls "subs". Suppose someone is born in Revati

star. First dasa of Mercury is basically the dasa of Revati (and its

trines, if we are not taking the Tribhagi variation). Next dasa of Ketu

is basically the dasa of Aswini. Various antardasas in Ketu dasa belong

to various subs within Aswini star. And so on.

 

Similarly,

the above mapping suggests that Kalachakra dasa is a progression of

Moon's navamsa and antardasas trace this progression thru nava-navamsa

within a navamsa (like subs within a nakshatra).

 

This

does suggest that the so-called "dasa cycles" are actually intended to

be used as antardasa cycles.

 

In

fact, one important verse of Parasara on Kalachakra dasa has been

ignored by all scholars. The verse says

 

narasya

janma kaale vaa prasna kaale yadamsakah

tadaadi

nava raaseenaamabdaastasyaayuruchyate

 

Literal

meaning: Whatever [nav]amsa is active at the time of a

person's birth or prasna, years of nine amsas starting from it form the

ayu (longevity).

 

This

is consistent with Shiva's teaching:

 

janmarkshe

chandra lagne vaa prasna kaale yadamsakah

tadaadi

nava paryantam aayushyam parikalpyataam

 

Literal

meaning: Whatever is the [nava]amsa of natal lagna or natal

Moon or prasna lagna, upto nine [nav]amsas from it form one's ayush.

 

Interpretation:

Most scholars have ignored these verses. Suppose someone is born in

Mrigasira 4th pada. The above verse says that ayush (longevity) should

be decided by looking at the years of Mrigasira 4th pada (Ar navamsa)

and 8 padas after it. But most scholars look at the "dasa cycle" table

and find the dasa cycle against Mrigasira 4th pada and take Sg, Sc, Li,

Vi, Le, Cn, Ge, Ta and Ar as the dasa cycle. That is inconsistent with

the above verse!

 

But,

one scholar called Sreeman Tirumala Samudrala Venkata Raghavacharya,

who published a Telugu language book called "Kalachakramu" in 1930, did

not ignore this verse. According to him, Kalachakra dasa is a

progression of Moon's navamsa or lagna's navamsa (just as Vimsottari

dasa is a progression of Moon's nakshatra).

 

Suppose

someone is born in Mrigasira 4th pada. The first dasa is of Mrigasira

4th pada itself. We start from this pada and go upto 9 padas (navamsas)

and get 9 dasas! The nine dasas are Mrigasira 4, Ardra 1, 2, 3, 4,

Punarvasu 1, 2, 3, 4. Taking the Kalachakra navamsas of these padas,

using tables 1 and 2, we get Ar, Pi, Aq, Cp, Sg, Ar, Ta, Ge and Cn. The

amount of the first dasa (Ar) left at birth is decided based on the

fraction of Mrigasira 4th pada traversed by Moon.

 

To get

the antardasas within each dasa, we refer to the so-called "dasa cycle"

tables. For example, antardasas in Mrigasira 4th pada (Aries) dasa will

be Krittika 1, Bharani 4, 3, 2, 1, Aswini 4, 3, 2, 1, i.e. Sg, Sc, Li,

Vi, Le, Cn, Ge, Ta and Ar. Antardasas in Ardra 1st pada (Pisces) dasa

will be Revati 4, 3, 2, 1, Uttarabhadra 4, 3, 2, 1, Poorvabhadra 4,

i.e. Pi, Aq, Cp, Sg, Sc, Li, Vi, Le, Cn. And so on.

 

We

basically take the nine nava-navamsas within each navamsa and treat

them as the antardasas within the mahadasa.

 

In

this interpretation, the four paramayushes given by authorities are

simply abstract numbers used in dividing the navamsa sign's dasa among

the nine antardasas of the nine nava-navamsas within the navamsa. The

actual paramayush (longevity) of the person is not necessarily any of

those four numbers. It is found by adding the years of the nine amsas

starting from Moon's amsa as given in the verses quoted above.

 

Main point: In this approach,

Kalachakra dasa progression traces Moon's position progressed thru

navamsa. Antardasas within a mahadasa trace Moon's nava-navamsa

position within a particular navamsa. The antardasas in each dasa are

the nava-navamsas within the navamsa corresponding to the mahadasa!

 

I will

give some examples later.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

|| Om Gurave Namah ||

 

Dear Narasimhaji,

 

Thanks for such a wonderful explanation,

 

> bhauma sukra budhendvarka saumya bhrigvaara mantrinah

> sanirmando guruschaiva navaamsa bhavanaadhipaah

>

> Literal Meaning: Mars, Venus, Mercury, Moon, Sun, Mercury, Venus,

Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Saturn and Jupiter are respectively the

navamsa sign lords [in the navamsas of each group of 3 nakshtras].

 

I am able to make some sense in the whole patter given by Parasara

Rishi.

 

It's indeed interesting to note that this sequence of lords is

maintained in forward direction in Savya naxatra and in reverse

order in apasavaya.

 

Savya Order -> Ma,Ve,Me,Mo,Su,Me,Ve,Ma,Ju,

[sa,Sa,Ju],Ma,Ve,Me,Mo,Su,Me,Ve,Ma,Ju,[sa,Sa,Ju].....

 

Zodial Rasi lords order from Aries.

 

Apsavya Order ->

Ju,Sa,Sa,Ju,Ma,Ve,Me,Su,Mo,Me,Ve,Ma,Ju,Sa,Sa,Ju,Ma,Ve,Me,Su,Mo,Me,Ve,

Ma,.......

 

Reverse Zodial Rasi Lords order. From Pisces

 

So the apasavya is actually regular reverse order but only on

Lordship level not on Rasi level.

 

This may actually answer Shree Chandrashekarji' Question as to why

 

'...understand the source of meaning attributed to Apasavya as

irregular as against anti zodiacal generally accepted by Astrologers

and in Sanskrit.'

 

Below I have given the list of Dasa lords for the various

Pada.

 

Students may benefit reading Narasimhaji's earlier lesson for the

dasa orders

 

http://www.vedicastrologer.org/lec02/initfrm.htm

 

 

"Savya-I" Constellations: Aswini, Krittika, Punarvasu, Asresha,

Hasta, Swati, Moola, Uttarashadha, Poorvabhadra, Revati

 

Pada Dasa Sequence Paramaayush

1st Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg 100

Ma,Ve,Me,Mo,Su,Me,Ve,Ma,Ju ->Continue to 2nd pada

2nd Cp Aq Pi Sc Li Vi Cn Le Ge 85

Sa,Sa,Ju,Ma,Ve,Me,Mo,Su,Me ->Continue to 3rd pada

3rd Ta Ar Pi Aq Cp Sg Ar Ta Ge 83

Ve,Ma,Ju,Sa,Sa,Ju,Ma,Ve,Me -> Continue to 4th Pada

4th Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi 86

Mo,Su,Me,Ve,Ma,Ju,Sa,Sa,Ju -> Continue to 1st Pada in Savya

 

"Savya-II" Constellations: Bharani, Pushyami, Chitra, Poorvashadha,

Uttarabhadrapada

 

Pada Dasa Sequence Paramaayush

1st Sc Li Vi Cn Le Ge Ta Ar Pi 100

Ma,Ve,Me,Mo,Su,Me,Ve,Ma,Ju

2nd Aq Cp Sg Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi 85

Sa,Sa,Ju,Ma,Ve,Me,Mo,Su,Me

3rd Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi Sc Li Vi 83

Ve,Ma,Ju,Sa,Sa,Ju,Ma,Ve,Me

4th Cn Le Ge Ta Ar Pi Aq Cp Sg 86

Mo,Su,Me,Ve,Ma,Ju,Sa,Sa,Ju

 

 

"Apasavya-I" Constellations: Rohini, Makha, Visakha, Sravanam

 

Pada, Dasa Sequence, Paramaayush

1st Sg Cp Aq Pi Ar Ta Ge Le Cn 86

Ju,Sa,Sa,Ju,Ma,Ve,Me,Su,Mo --> Continue reverse to 2nd pada

2nd Vi Li Sc Pi Aq Cp Sg Sc Li 83

Me,Ve,Ma,Ju,Sa,Sa,Ju,Ma,Ve--> Continue reverse to 3nd pada

3rd Vi Le Cn Ge Ta Ar Sg Cp Aq 85

Me,Su,Mo,Me,Ve,Ma,Ju,Sa,Sa --> Continue reverse to 4nd pada

4th Pi Ar Ta Ge Le Cn Vi Li Sc 100

Ju,Ma,Ve,Me,Su,Mo,Me,Ve,Ma --> Continue reverse to 1nd pada

 

"Apasavya-II" Constellations: Mrigasira, Ardra, Poorvaphalguni,

Uttaraphalguni, Anuradha, Jyeshtha, Dhanishtha, Satabhisha

 

Pada Dasa Sequence Paramaayush

1st Pi Aq Cp Sg Sc Li Vi Le Cn 86

Ju,Sa,Sa,Ju,Ma,Ve,Me,Su,Mo

2nd Ge Ta Ar Sg Cp Aq Pi Ar Ta 83

Me,Ve,Ma,Ju,Sa,Sa,Ju,Ma,Ve

3rd Ge Le Cn Vi Li Sc Pi Aq Cp 85

Me,Su,Mo,Me,Ve,Ma,Ju,Sa,Sa

4th Sg Sc Li Vi Le Cn Ge Ta Ar 100

Ju,Ma,Ve,Me,Su,Mo,Me,Ve,Ma

 

 

Hope my understanding is correct.

 

Warm Regards

Sanjay P.

 

Om Tat Sat

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...