Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 Namaste Hari, It is indeed a great loss to the world of music. As is evident from the tapaswi yoga in her 10H, the sattwik sign of Cancer, involving Lagna lord Venus and 5th Lord Saturn, her music was her prayer and her tapasya and hence it always touched the audience in a strange manner and her listeners always returned in an elevated mood. I always considered her to be the most beautiful woman I have ever seen. Her incomparable grace and beauty, which inspired in the onlookers great respect, is beyond anything that can ever be achieved by our so called beauty queens. Her purity and atma soundarya shone through in a manner so uncontrived, effortless and guileless. She lives on in the hearts of people. Regards, Lakshmionlyhari <onlyhari > wrote: ||Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya Svaha||Namaste,This noble soul, who demonstrated to all of us the art of being immersed in bhakti yoga when rendering the songs, is dead. Let us pray that this noble soul ascends to the higher lokas and receives the divine bliss of Lord Krishna. Jyotisa shastra is a vedanga. Let us resolve to follow M.S. Subbulakshmi's example and work hard to codify the subject of Jyotisa for the benefit of future generations.At the feet of Lord Jagannatha, I remainHarivedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote:> Namaste all,> > This is sad news. I will make one quick astrological point.> > Smt Subbulakshmi has the 7th lord Mars in lagna. According to Maharshi Parasara, Dwisaptati sama dasa works in her chart, in addition to Vimsottari dasa. You can see that she is running Moon antardasa in Jupiter mahadasa as per this dasa. Both the planets are in the 7th house of death. The logic is quite straight-forward if we use Dwisaptati sama dasa.> > Here are the calculations for those who want to cross-check:> > Dwi-saptati sama dasa (applicable if lagna lord is in 7th or 7th lord is in lagna):> > Maha Dasas:> > Mars: 1908-08-12 (16:30:06) - 1917-08-12 (23:54:15)> Merc: 1917-08-12 (23:54:15) - 1926-08-13 (7:01:12)> Jup: 1926-08-13 (7:01:12) - 1935-08-13 (14:31:18)> Ven: 1935-08-13 (14:31:18) - 1944-08-12 (21:56:39)> Sat: 1944-08-12 (21:56:39) - 1953-08-13 (5:10:14)> Rah: 1953-08-13 (5:10:14) - 1962-08-13 (12:30:11)> Sun: 1962-08-13 (12:30:11) - 1971-08-13 (19:57:55)> Moon: 1971-08-13 (19:57:55) - 1980-08-13 (3:19:35)> > Mars: 1980-08-13 (3:19:35) - 1989-08-13 (10:35:54)> Merc: 1989-08-13 (10:35:54) - 1998-08-13 (17:56:03)> Jup: 1998-08-13 (17:56:03) - 2007-08-14 (1:16:58) <<<<> > Antardasas in Jupiter MD:> > Jup: 1998-08-13 (17:56:03) - 1999-09-29 (9:30:03)> Ven: 1999-09-29 (9:30:03) - 2000-11-12 (21:45:39)> Sat: 2000-11-12 (21:45:39) - 2001-12-27 (12:51:20)> Rah: 2001-12-27 (12:51:20) - 2003-02-10 (0:38:03)> Sun: 2003-02-10 (0:38:03) - 2004-03-26 (4:36:42)> Moon: 2004-03-26 (4:36:42) - 2005-05-11 (11:34:05) <<<<> Mars: 2005-05-11 (11:34:05) - 2006-06-27 (16:31:25)> Merc: 2006-06-27 (16:31:25) - 2007-08-14 (1:16:58)> > Those who want to study the chart of Sri PV Narasimha Rao may do well to use Chaturaseeti sama dasa in addition to Vimsottari dasa. If the 10th lord is in 10th, that is the dasa recommended by Maharshi Parasara. Using that dasa, Sri PVN Rao was India's Prime Minister during the dasa of Mercury who is in 10th in own house with Sun and Mars.> > Sri PVN Rao is running Jupiter dasa right now. Jupiter is the 7th lord and certainly capable of giving death. But the antardasa right now is that of Sun. I am not sure if Sun can give death. Moon antardasa will start next year and that can certainly give death, as Moon occupies the 7th house!> > May Lord Shiva prove me wrong and give a very long life to the beloved former PM!> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> PVR Narasimha Rao> > PS: I am cc'ing this mail to vedic astrology , as people there will find this data useful too!Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... The all-new My – What will yours do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 Dear Narasimha, I shall try to see the same sad event from Vimshottary Dasha perspective. Its accuracy is amazing. She was running Dasha of 12th Lord Mercury Antardasha of Rahu who occupies Capricorn, thus capable of giving results of Yoga Karaka Saturn and gets aspect of both Saturn and Venus (8th Lord, besides being Lagnesh. Pratyantar is of Venus the 8th Lord again. Saturn acts as Killer when associating with other Killer. Venus gives results of Saturn and vice-a-versa in each other's Maha/ Antar dasha or Antar/Pratyantar. In transit Saturn turned retrograde recently and conjoins Natal Saturn aspecting 7th house. Jupiter Lord of 3rd and 6th aspects Natal 6th and 8th in transit. Venus joins Lagna and squares Natal Venus and Saturn. So does Ketu. Moon and Sun are in Maraka 2nd house aspecting the 8th. It is interesting that the Sookshma dasha of Mercury and Prana of Rahu and Deha Dasha of Marakesh Mars was operating at the time of death. Chandrashekhar. Narasimha P.V.R. Rao wrote: Namaste all, This is sad news. I will make one quick astrological point. Smt Subbulakshmi has the 7th lord Mars in lagna. According to Maharshi Parasara, Dwisaptati sama dasa works in her chart, in addition to Vimsottari dasa. You can see that she is running Moon antardasa in Jupiter mahadasa as per this dasa. Both the planets are in the 7th house of death. The logic is quite straight-forward if we use Dwisaptati sama dasa. Here are the calculations for those who want to cross-check: Dwi-saptati sama dasa (applicable if lagna lord is in 7th or 7th lord is in lagna): Maha Dasas: Mars: 1908-08-12 (16:30:06) - 1917-08-12 (23:54:15) Merc: 1917-08-12 (23:54:15) - 1926-08-13 (7:01:12) Jup: 1926-08-13 (7:01:12) - 1935-08-13 (14:31:18) Ven: 1935-08-13 (14:31:18) - 1944-08-12 (21:56:39) Sat: 1944-08-12 (21:56:39) - 1953-08-13 (5:10:14) Rah: 1953-08-13 (5:10:14) - 1962-08-13 (12:30:11) Sun: 1962-08-13 (12:30:11) - 1971-08-13 (19:57:55) Moon: 1971-08-13 (19:57:55) - 1980-08-13 (3:19:35) Mars: 1980-08-13 (3:19:35) - 1989-08-13 (10:35:54) Merc: 1989-08-13 (10:35:54) - 1998-08-13 (17:56:03) Jup: 1998-08-13 (17:56:03) - 2007-08-14 (1:16:58) <<<< Antardasas in Jupiter MD: Jup: 1998-08-13 (17:56:03) - 1999-09-29 (9:30:03) Ven: 1999-09-29 (9:30:03) - 2000-11-12 (21:45:39) Sat: 2000-11-12 (21:45:39) - 2001-12-27 (12:51:20) Rah: 2001-12-27 (12:51:20) - 2003-02-10 (0:38:03) Sun: 2003-02-10 (0:38:03) - 2004-03-26 (4:36:42) Moon: 2004-03-26 (4:36:42) - 2005-05-11 (11:34:05) <<<< Mars: 2005-05-11 (11:34:05) - 2006-06-27 (16:31:25) Merc: 2006-06-27 (16:31:25) - 2007-08-14 (1:16:58) Those who want to study the chart of Sri PV Narasimha Rao may do well to use Chaturaseeti sama dasa in addition to Vimsottari dasa. If the 10th lord is in 10th, that is the dasa recommended by Maharshi Parasara. Using that dasa, Sri PVN Rao was India's Prime Minister during the dasa of Mercury who is in 10th in own house with Sun and Mars. Sri PVN Rao is running Jupiter dasa right now. Jupiter is the 7th lord and certainly capable of giving death. But the antardasa right now is that of Sun. I am not sure if Sun can give death. Moon antardasa will start next year and that can certainly give death, as Moon occupies the 7th house! May Lord Shiva prove me wrong and give a very long life to the beloved former PM! May Jupiter's light shine on us, PVR Narasimha Rao PS: I am cc'ing this mail to vedic astrology , as people there will find this data useful too! > M.S. Subbulakshmi dead > I got up from the bed, thought I would see the letters in > email and also hear news fearing that I would hear bad news > about one of the two: P.V. Narasimha Rao a former prime > minister of India or M.S. Subbulakshmi, a very respected > female singer of Karnatic music. > Subbulakshmi died.You may discuss her horoscope. The data > is > 16 September 1916 > 9/30 AM ( nearly correct) > MADURAI > Lagna Tula 19/50 > Moon in Mesha 25/19 > Died on the midnight of 11/12 December 2004. > Vimshottari dasha at the time of death Mercury/Rahu. > KEEP THIS HOROSCOPE IN YOUR HOROSCOPE DATA FOR FUTURE RESEARCH. > > ===== > Yours sincerely, > K.N.Rao, F-291 Saraswati Kunj, Patparganj, I.P.Extension, Delhi 110092. > Phones 272-1624/ 272-1625 > sales@a... > website www//journalofastrology.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 Dear Lakshmi/ Hari, I join you in expressing my deep sorrow on learning of demise of M.S. Subbalakshmi. It is said the world was created out of sound (Nada Brahma), and she was master of the divine sound (Classical Music and devotional Music). Chandrashekhar. lakshmi ramesh wrote: Om Gurave Namah Namaste Hari, It is indeed a great loss to the world of music. As is evident from the tapaswi yoga in her 10H, the sattwik sign of Cancer, involving Lagna lord Venus and 5th Lord Saturn, her music was her prayer and her tapasya and hence it always touched the audience in a strange manner and her listeners always returned in an elevated mood. I always considered her to be the most beautiful woman I have ever seen. Her incomparable grace and beauty, which inspired in the onlookers great respect, is beyond anything that can ever be achieved by our so called beauty queens. Her purity and atma soundarya shone through in a manner so uncontrived, effortless and guileless. She lives on in the hearts of people. Regards, Lakshmi onlyhari <onlyhari > wrote: ||Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya Svaha|| Namaste, This noble soul, who demonstrated to all of us the art of being immersed in bhakti yoga when rendering the songs, is dead. Let us pray that this noble soul ascends to the higher lokas and receives the divine bliss of Lord Krishna. Jyotisa shastra is a vedanga. Let us resolve to follow M.S. Subbulakshmi's example and work hard to codify the subject of Jyotisa for the benefit of future generations. At the feet of Lord Jagannatha, I remain Hari vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote: > Namaste all, > > This is sad news. I will make one quick astrological point. > > Smt Subbulakshmi has the 7th lord Mars in lagna. According to Maharshi Parasara, Dwisaptati sama dasa works in her chart, in addition to Vimsottari dasa. You can see that she is running Moon antardasa in Jupiter mahadasa as per this dasa. Both the planets are in the 7th house of death. The logic is quite straight-forward if we use Dwisaptati sama dasa. > > Here are the calculations for those who want to cross-check: > > Dwi-saptati sama dasa (applicable if lagna lord is in 7th or 7th lord is in lagna): > > Maha Dasas: > > Mars: 1908-08-12 (16:30:06) - 1917-08-12 (23:54:15) > Merc: 1917-08-12 (23:54:15) - 1926-08-13 (7:01:12) > Jup: 1926-08-13 (7:01:12) - 1935-08-13 (14:31:18) > Ven: 1935-08-13 (14:31:18) - 1944-08-12 (21:56:39) > Sat: 1944-08-12 (21:56:39) - 1953-08-13 (5:10:14) > Rah: 1953-08-13 (5:10:14) - 1962-08-13 (12:30:11) > Sun: 1962-08-13 (12:30:11) - 1971-08-13 (19:57:55) > Moon: 1971-08-13 (19:57:55) - 1980-08-13 (3:19:35) > > Mars: 1980-08-13 (3:19:35) - 1989-08-13 (10:35:54) > Merc: 1989-08-13 (10:35:54) - 1998-08-13 (17:56:03) > Jup: 1998-08-13 (17:56:03) - 2007-08-14 (1:16:58) <<<< > > Antardasas in Jupiter MD: > > Jup: 1998-08-13 (17:56:03) - 1999-09-29 (9:30:03) > Ven: 1999-09-29 (9:30:03) - 2000-11-12 (21:45:39) > Sat: 2000-11-12 (21:45:39) - 2001-12-27 (12:51:20) > Rah: 2001-12-27 (12:51:20) - 2003-02-10 (0:38:03) > Sun: 2003-02-10 (0:38:03) - 2004-03-26 (4:36:42) > Moon: 2004-03-26 (4:36:42) - 2005-05-11 (11:34:05) <<<< > Mars: 2005-05-11 (11:34:05) - 2006-06-27 (16:31:25) > Merc: 2006-06-27 (16:31:25) - 2007-08-14 (1:16:58) > > Those who want to study the chart of Sri PV Narasimha Rao may do well to use Chaturaseeti sama dasa in addition to Vimsottari dasa. If the 10th lord is in 10th, that is the dasa recommended by Maharshi Parasara. Using that dasa, Sri PVN Rao was India's Prime Minister during the dasa of Mercury who is in 10th in own house with Sun and Mars. > > Sri PVN Rao is running Jupiter dasa right now. Jupiter is the 7th lord and certainly capable of giving death. But the antardasa right now is that of Sun. I am not sure if Sun can give death. Moon antardasa will start next year and that can certainly give death, as Moon occupies the 7th house! > > May Lord Shiva prove me wrong and give a very long life to the beloved former PM! > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > PVR Narasimha Rao > > PS: I am cc'ing this mail to vedic astrology , as people there will find this data useful too! The all-new My – What will yours do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 Namaste Pradeep ji, Please forgive me for intruding. I feel M.S.'s lack of progeny is attributable to the following reasons: 1) The deep involvement of 5th lord Saturn in Tapaswi yoga, so her entire creative energy was invested in the great outpouring of melody, which left no room for other attachments and diversions. The fact that Saturn is also the 4th lord and is in a quadrant from Moon (also aspecting the moon) indicates the depth of her penance. 2) The 5th lord caught in the nodal axis 3) The sthira as well as chara putrakaraka Jupiter afflicted by Mars, Saturn, Rahu and Ketu all in quadrants from Jupiter. 4) The 9th lord (5th from 5th) is exalted in the 12th house in conjunction with Sun (5th lord from moon) in marana karana avastha. 5) The fact that both 5th and 9th houses are ruled by strong napunsaka planets 6) In navamsa too Jupiter, the exalted 5th lord is caught in the nodal axis and aspected powerfully by exalted Mars. 7) In Saptamsa Jupiter is the 5th lord again aspected by Mars, the D-7 lagna and 6th lord (moola trikona). 8) Interestingly in D-60 Mars (as the 6 & 11th lord) occupies Libra, the 5th house. He occupies the same house (lagna)in D-1, resulting in kuja dosha, which was considerably offset by Moon's placement in Aries. In D-1, D-9, D-7 as well as D-60 the nodal axis afflicts Cancer (the natural womb). I think all in all strong sarpa dosha exists in the horoscope, which M.S., I am sure, had remedied long back by her good deeds. But, seeing that Rahu is her AK, perhaps this particular affliction made her a selfless person and led her more and more towards God. Over to Chandrasekhar ji for comments and corrections. Regards, Lakshmi vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep > wrote: Dear Chandrashekhar jiWhat could be the reason for no children in her chart.Thanks Pradeepvedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote:> Dear Narasimha,> I shall try to see the same sad event from Vimshottary Dasha > perspective. Its accuracy is amazing.> She was running Dasha of 12th Lord Mercury Antardasha of Rahu who > occupies Capricorn, thus capable of giving results of Yoga Karaka Saturn > and gets aspect of both Saturn and Venus (8th Lord, besides being > Lagnesh. Pratyantar is of Venus the 8th Lord again. Saturn acts as > Killer when associating with other Killer. Venus gives results of Saturn > and vice-a-versa in each other's Maha/ Antar dasha or Antar/Pratyantar.> In transit Saturn turned retrograde recently and conjoins Natal Saturn > aspecting 7th house. Jupiter <a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=lord%20of" onmouseover="window.status='Lord of'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">Lord of</a> 3rd and 6th aspects Natal 6th and > 8th in transit. Venus joins Lagna and squares Natal Venus and Saturn. So > does Ketu. Moon and Sun are in Maraka 2nd house aspecting the 8th. It is > interesting that the Sookshma dasha of Mercury and Prana of Rahu and > Deha Dasha of Marakesh Mars was operating at the time of death.> Chandrashekhar.> > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao wrote:> > > Namaste all,> > > > This is sad news. I will make one quick astrological point.> > > > Smt Subbulakshmi has the 7th lord Mars in lagna. According to Maharshi > > Parasara, Dwisaptati sama dasa works in her chart, in addition to > > Vimsottari dasa. You can see that she is running Moon antardasa in > > Jupiter mahadasa as per this dasa. Both the planets are in the 7th > > house of death. The logic is quite straight-forward if we use > > Dwisaptati sama dasa.> > > > Here are the calculations for those who want to cross-check:> > > > Dwi-saptati sama dasa (applicable if lagna lord is in 7th or 7th lord > > is in lagna):> > > > Maha Dasas:> > > > Mars: 1908-08-12 (16:30:06) - 1917-08-12 (23:54:15)> > Merc: 1917-08-12 (23:54:15) - 1926-08-13 (7:01:12)> > Jup: 1926-08-13 (7:01:12) - 1935-08-13 (14:31:18)> > Ven: 1935-08-13 (14:31:18) - 1944-08-12 (21:56:39)> > Sat: 1944-08-12 (21:56:39) - 1953-08-13 (5:10:14)> > Rah: 1953-08-13 (5:10:14) - 1962-08-13 (12:30:11)> > Sun: 1962-08-13 (12:30:11) - 1971-08-13 (19:57:55)> > Moon: 1971-08-13 (19:57:55) - 1980-08-13 (3:19:35)> > > > Mars: 1980-08-13 (3:19:35) - 1989-08-13 (10:35:54)> > Merc: 1989-08-13 (10:35:54) - 1998-08-13 (17:56:03)> > Jup: 1998-08-13 (17:56:03) - 2007-08-14 (1:16:58) <<<<> > > > Antardasas in Jupiter MD:> > > > Jup: 1998-08-13 (17:56:03) - 1999-09-29 (9:30:03)> > Ven: 1999-09-29 (9:30:03) - 2000-11-12 (21:45:39)> > Sat: 2000-11-12 (21:45:39) - 2001-12-27 (12:51:20)> > Rah: 2001-12-27 (12:51:20) - 2003-02-10 (0:38:03)> > Sun: 2003-02-10 (0:38:03) - 2004-03-26 (4:36:42)> > Moon: 2004-03-26 (4:36:42) - 2005-05-11 (11:34:05) <<<<> > Mars: 2005-05-11 (11:34:05) - 2006-06-27 (16:31:25)> > Merc: 2006-06-27 (16:31:25) - 2007-08-14 (1:16:58)> > > > Those who want to study the chart of Sri PV Narasimha Rao may do well > > to use Chaturaseeti sama dasa in addition to Vimsottari dasa. If the > > 10th lord is in 10th, that is the dasa recommended by Maharshi > > Parasara. Using that dasa, Sri PVN Rao was India's Prime Minister > > during the dasa of Mercury who is in 10th in own house with Sun and Mars.> > > > Sri PVN Rao is running Jupiter dasa right now. Jupiter is the 7th lord > > and certainly capable of giving death. But the antardasa right now is > > that of Sun. I am not sure if Sun can give death. Moon antardasa will > > start next year and that can certainly give death, as Moon occupies > > the 7th house!> > > > May Lord Shiva prove me wrong and give a very long life to the beloved > > former PM!> > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> > PVR Narasimha Rao> > > > PS: I am cc'ing this mail to vedic astrology , as people > > there will find this data useful too!> > > > > M.S. Subbulakshmi dead> > > I got up from the bed, thought I would see the letters in> > > email and also hear news fearing that I would hear bad news> > > about one of the two: P.V. Narasimha Rao a former prime> > > minister of India or M.S. Subbulakshmi, a very respected> > > female singer of Karnatic music.> > > Subbulakshmi died.You may discuss her horoscope. The data> > > is> > > 16 September 1916> > > 9/30 AM ( nearly correct)> > > MADURAI> > > Lagna Tula 19/50> > > Moon in Mesha 25/19> > > Died on the midnight of 11/12 December 2004.> > > Vimshottari dasha at the time of death Mercury/Rahu.> > > KEEP THIS HOROSCOPE IN YOUR HOROSCOPE DATA FOR FUTURE RESEARCH.> > >> > > =====> > > Yours sincerely,> > > K.N.Rao, F-291 Saraswati Kunj, Patparganj, I.P.Extension, Delhi 110092.> > > Phones 272-1624/ 272-1625> > > sales@a <sales@a>...> > > website www//journalofastrology.com> >> >> > Archives: vedic astrology> >> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> >> > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Look at Lord of the 5th Saturn afflicted by Ketu, and Jupiter the Putra Karaka in exaltation in the 5th house in Navamsha chart. Then look at Saptamsha which has Jupiter again in the 5th house and 5th Lord Mercury in 8th(for Saptamsha). Remember what I say about Jupiter harming the Bhava he occupies, especially if strong? Note that Ketu acting like Saturn and Venus besides owning 2nd house by co Lordship, also gives results of Mars the Marakesh. Chandrashekhar. vijayadas_pradeep wrote: Dear Chandrashekhar ji What could be the reason for no children in her chart. Thanks Pradeep vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Narasimha, > I shall try to see the same sad event from Vimshottary Dasha > perspective. Its accuracy is amazing. > She was running Dasha of 12th Lord Mercury Antardasha of Rahu who > occupies Capricorn, thus capable of giving results of Yoga Karaka Saturn > and gets aspect of both Saturn and Venus (8th Lord, besides being > Lagnesh. Pratyantar is of Venus the 8th Lord again. Saturn acts as > Killer when associating with other Killer. Venus gives results of Saturn > and vice-a-versa in each other's Maha/ Antar dasha or Antar/Pratyantar. > In transit Saturn turned retrograde recently and conjoins Natal Saturn > aspecting 7th house. Jupiter <a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=lord%20of" onmouseover="window.status='Lord of'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">Lord of</a> 3rd and 6th aspects Natal 6th and > 8th in transit. Venus joins Lagna and squares Natal Venus and Saturn. So > does Ketu. Moon and Sun are in Maraka 2nd house aspecting the 8th. It is > interesting that the Sookshma dasha of Mercury and Prana of Rahu and > Deha Dasha of Marakesh Mars was operating at the time of death. > Chandrashekhar. > > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao wrote: > > > Namaste all, > > > > This is sad news. I will make one quick astrological point. > > > > Smt Subbulakshmi has the 7th lord Mars in lagna. According to Maharshi > > Parasara, Dwisaptati sama dasa works in her chart, in addition to > > Vimsottari dasa. You can see that she is running Moon antardasa in > > Jupiter mahadasa as per this dasa. Both the planets are in the 7th > > house of death. The logic is quite straight-forward if we use > > Dwisaptati sama dasa. > > > > Here are the calculations for those who want to cross-check: > > > > Dwi-saptati sama dasa (applicable if lagna lord is in 7th or 7th lord > > is in lagna): > > > > Maha Dasas: > > > > Mars: 1908-08-12 (16:30:06) - 1917-08-12 (23:54:15) > > Merc: 1917-08-12 (23:54:15) - 1926-08-13 (7:01:12) > > Jup: 1926-08-13 (7:01:12) - 1935-08-13 (14:31:18) > > Ven: 1935-08-13 (14:31:18) - 1944-08-12 (21:56:39) > > Sat: 1944-08-12 (21:56:39) - 1953-08-13 (5:10:14) > > Rah: 1953-08-13 (5:10:14) - 1962-08-13 (12:30:11) > > Sun: 1962-08-13 (12:30:11) - 1971-08-13 (19:57:55) > > Moon: 1971-08-13 (19:57:55) - 1980-08-13 (3:19:35) > > > > Mars: 1980-08-13 (3:19:35) - 1989-08-13 (10:35:54) > > Merc: 1989-08-13 (10:35:54) - 1998-08-13 (17:56:03) > > Jup: 1998-08-13 (17:56:03) - 2007-08-14 (1:16:58) <<<< > > > > Antardasas in Jupiter MD: > > > > Jup: 1998-08-13 (17:56:03) - 1999-09-29 (9:30:03) > > Ven: 1999-09-29 (9:30:03) - 2000-11-12 (21:45:39) > > Sat: 2000-11-12 (21:45:39) - 2001-12-27 (12:51:20) > > Rah: 2001-12-27 (12:51:20) - 2003-02-10 (0:38:03) > > Sun: 2003-02-10 (0:38:03) - 2004-03-26 (4:36:42) > > Moon: 2004-03-26 (4:36:42) - 2005-05-11 (11:34:05) <<<< > > Mars: 2005-05-11 (11:34:05) - 2006-06-27 (16:31:25) > > Merc: 2006-06-27 (16:31:25) - 2007-08-14 (1:16:58) > > > > Those who want to study the chart of Sri PV Narasimha Rao may do well > > to use Chaturaseeti sama dasa in addition to Vimsottari dasa. If the > > 10th lord is in 10th, that is the dasa recommended by Maharshi > > Parasara. Using that dasa, Sri PVN Rao was India's Prime Minister > > during the dasa of Mercury who is in 10th in own house with Sun and Mars. > > > > Sri PVN Rao is running Jupiter dasa right now. Jupiter is the 7th lord > > and certainly capable of giving death. But the antardasa right now is > > that of Sun. I am not sure if Sun can give death. Moon antardasa will > > start next year and that can certainly give death, as Moon occupies > > the 7th house! > > > > May Lord Shiva prove me wrong and give a very long life to the beloved > > former PM! > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > PVR Narasimha Rao > > > > PS: I am cc'ing this mail to vedic astrology , as people > > there will find this data useful too! > > > > > M.S. Subbulakshmi dead > > > I got up from the bed, thought I would see the letters in > > > email and also hear news fearing that I would hear bad news > > > about one of the two: P.V. 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Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Namaste Chandrasekharji, Which TOB are you using for M.S.? Because for 8:26:47am that I am using, Jupiter though he is certainly the 5th lord, occupies 9H in exaltation in navamsa and 8H in saptamsa. He does not occupy 5H in any chart. Though I could be wrong, I feel that this time could be more correct because in this case Moon and Venus occupy navamsa lagna and the 2nd (voice) and 5th (bhakthi) lord Jupiter's (also Ishta devata) exaltation in 9th is consistent with Mercury's exaltation in rasi chart. Even in dasamsa you would find Jupiter exalted in 9th along with Venus and in d-20 the 8th house has saraswathi yoga of Venus and Mercury. And the 8L is in 2nd house along with A10! In D-60 too, the nodal axis is along the 2-8 houses and AK Rahu occupies 2nd house (Cancer!) along with gulika and mandi. No doubt M.S. had to drink her own share of poison, but she sucked out poison from many hearts with her gaana-amrita. When 9.30 am is used, the second lord and 9th lord is indeed exalted, but in the 11H along with Sun and Rahu. And, I am more inclined to think that sattwik Jupiter, conjunct ketu, as 2nd lord defines her divine voice better than the fiery Mars. But whichever time is used, Jupiter is definitely the chara as well as the sthira putrakaraka and is heavily afflicted by Mars in all the above charts, as well as in D-6 and D-30. With 9.30am as TOB, in D-9 the 5th lord Moon is debilitated and unable to protect the house. Any particular reason, Sir, for ignoring these afflictions? . Regards, LakshmiChandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Look at Lord of the 5th Saturn afflicted by Ketu, and Jupiter the Putra Karaka in exaltation in the 5th house in Navamsha chart. Then look at Saptamsha which has Jupiter again in the 5th house and 5th Lord Mercury in 8th(for Saptamsha). Remember what I say about Jupiter harming the Bhava he occupies, especially if strong?Note that Ketu acting like Saturn and Venus besides owning 2nd house by co Lordship, also gives results of Mars the Marakesh.Chandrashekhar.vijayadas_pradeep wrote: Dear Chandrashekhar jiWhat could be the reason for no children in her chart.Thanks Pradeep--- In vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote:> Dear Narasimha,> I shall try to see the same sad event from Vimshottary Dasha > perspective. Its accuracy is amazing.> She was running Dasha of 12th Lord Mercury Antardasha of Rahu who > occupies Capricorn, thus capable of giving results of Yoga Karaka Saturn > and gets aspect of both Saturn and Venus (8th Lord, besides being > Lagnesh. Pratyantar is of Venus the 8th Lord again. Saturn acts as > Killer when associating with other Killer. Venus gives results of Saturn > and vice-a-versa in each other's Maha/ Antar dasha or Antar/Pratyantar.> In transit Saturn turned retrograde recently and conjoins Natal Saturn > aspecting 7th house. Jupiter <a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=lord%20of" onmouseover="window.status='Lord of'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">Lord of</a> 3rd and 6th aspects Natal 6th and > 8th in transit. Venus joins Lagna and squares Natal Venus and Saturn. So > does Ketu. Moon and Sun are in Maraka 2nd house aspecting the 8th. It is > interesting that the Sookshma dasha of Mercury and Prana of Rahu and > Deha Dasha of Marakesh Mars was operating at the time of death.> Chandrashekhar.> > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao wrote:> > > Namaste all,> > > > This is sad news. I will make one quick astrological point.> > > > Smt Subbulakshmi has the 7th lord Mars in lagna. According to Maharshi > > Parasara, Dwisaptati sama dasa works in her chart, in addition to > > Vimsottari dasa. You can see that she is running Moon antardasa in > > Jupiter mahadasa as per this dasa. Both the planets are in the 7th > > house of death. The logic is quite straight-forward if we use > > Dwisaptati sama dasa.> > > > Here are the calculations for those who want to cross-check:> > > > Dwi-saptati sama dasa (applicable if lagna lord is in 7th or 7th lord > > is in lagna):> > > > Maha Dasas:> > > > Mars: 1908-08-12 (16:30:06) - 1917-08-12 (23:54:15)> > Merc: 1917-08-12 (23:54:15) - 1926-08-13 (7:01:12)> > Jup: 1926-08-13 (7:01:12) - 1935-08-13 (14:31:18)> > Ven: 1935-08-13 (14:31:18) - 1944-08-12 (21:56:39)> > Sat: 1944-08-12 (21:56:39) - 1953-08-13 (5:10:14)> > Rah: 1953-08-13 (5:10:14) - 1962-08-13 (12:30:11)> > Sun: 1962-08-13 (12:30:11) - 1971-08-13 (19:57:55)> > Moon: 1971-08-13 (19:57:55) - 1980-08-13 (3:19:35)> > > > Mars: 1980-08-13 (3:19:35) - 1989-08-13 (10:35:54)> > Merc: 1989-08-13 (10:35:54) - 1998-08-13 (17:56:03)> > Jup: 1998-08-13 (17:56:03) - 2007-08-14 (1:16:58) <<<<> > > > Antardasas in Jupiter MD:> > > > Jup: 1998-08-13 (17:56:03) - 1999-09-29 (9:30:03)> > Ven: 1999-09-29 (9:30:03) - 2000-11-12 (21:45:39)> > Sat: 2000-11-12 (21:45:39) - 2001-12-27 (12:51:20)> > Rah: 2001-12-27 (12:51:20) - 2003-02-10 (0:38:03)> > Sun: 2003-02-10 (0:38:03) - 2004-03-26 (4:36:42)> > Moon: 2004-03-26 (4:36:42) - 2005-05-11 (11:34:05) <<<<> > Mars: 2005-05-11 (11:34:05) - 2006-06-27 (16:31:25)> > Merc: 2006-06-27 (16:31:25) - 2007-08-14 (1:16:58)> > > > Those who want to study the chart of Sri PV Narasimha Rao may do well > > to use Chaturaseeti sama dasa in addition to Vimsottari dasa. If the > > 10th lord is in 10th, that is the dasa recommended by Maharshi > > Parasara. Using that dasa, Sri PVN Rao was India's Prime Minister > > during the dasa of Mercury who is in 10th in own house with Sun and Mars.> > > > Sri PVN Rao is running Jupiter dasa right now. Jupiter is the 7th lord > > and certainly capable of giving death. But the antardasa right now is > > that of Sun. I am not sure if Sun can give death. Moon antardasa will > > start next year and that can certainly give death, as Moon occupies > > the 7th house!> > > > May Lord Shiva prove me wrong and give a very long life to the beloved > > former PM!> > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> > PVR Narasimha Rao> > > > PS: I am cc'ing this mail to vedic astrology , as people > > there will find this data useful too!> > > > > M.S. Subbulakshmi dead> > > I got up from the bed, thought I would see the letters in> > > email and also hear news fearing that I would hear bad news> > > about one of the two: P.V. Narasimha Rao a former prime> > > minister of India or M.S. Subbulakshmi, a very respected> > > female singer of Karnatic music.> > > Subbulakshmi died.You may discuss her horoscope. The data> > > is> > > 16 September 1916> > > 9/30 AM ( nearly correct)> > > MADURAI> > > Lagna Tula 19/50> > > Moon in Mesha 25/19> > > Died on the midnight of 11/12 December 2004.> > > Vimshottari dasha at the time of death Mercury/Rahu.> > > KEEP THIS HOROSCOPE IN YOUR HOROSCOPE DATA FOR FUTURE RESEARCH.> > >> > > =====> > > Yours sincerely,> > > K.N.Rao, F-291 Saraswati Kunj, Patparganj, I.P.Extension, Delhi 110092.> > > Phones 272-1624/ 272-1625> > > sales@a <sales@a>...> > > website www//journalofastrology.com> >> >> > Archives: vedic astrology> >> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> >> > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 Dear Lakshmi, I am using the time given by K.N. Rao in his mail. It is 9.30. The time you are using is, perhaps, corrected time. Anyway, as you say, Putrakaraka/ Lord of the fifth is severely afflicted. Chandrashekhar. lakshmi ramesh wrote: Om Gurave Namah Namaste Chandrasekharji, Which TOB are you using for M.S.? Because for 8:26:47am that I am using, Jupiter though he is certainly the 5th lord, occupies 9H in exaltation in navamsa and 8H in saptamsa. He does not occupy 5H in any chart. Though I could be wrong, I feel that this time could be more correct because in this case Moon and Venus occupy navamsa lagna and the 2nd (voice) and 5th (bhakthi) lord Jupiter's (also Ishta devata) exaltation in 9th is consistent with Mercury's exaltation in rasi chart. Even in dasamsa you would find Jupiter exalted in 9th along with Venus and in d-20 the 8th house has saraswathi yoga of Venus and Mercury. And the 8L is in 2nd house along with A10! In D-60 too, the nodal axis is along the 2-8 houses and AK Rahu occupies 2nd house (Cancer!) along with gulika and mandi. No doubt M.S. had to drink her own share of poison, but she sucked out poison from many hearts with her gaana-amrita. When 9.30 am is used, the second lord and 9th lord is indeed exalted, but in the 11H along with Sun and Rahu. And, I am more inclined to think that sattwik Jupiter, conjunct ketu, as 2nd lord defines her divine voice better than the fiery Mars. But whichever time is used, Jupiter is definitely the chara as well as the sthira putrakaraka and is heavily afflicted by Mars in all the above charts, as well as in D-6 and D-30. With 9.30am as TOB, in D-9 the 5th lord Moon is debilitated and unable to protect the house. Any particular reason, Sir, for ignoring these afflictions? . Regards, Lakshmi Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Look at Lord of the 5th Saturn afflicted by Ketu, and Jupiter the Putra Karaka in exaltation in the 5th house in Navamsha chart. Then look at Saptamsha which has Jupiter again in the 5th house and 5th Lord Mercury in 8th(for Saptamsha). Remember what I say about Jupiter harming the Bhava he occupies, especially if strong? Note that Ketu acting like Saturn and Venus besides owning 2nd house by co Lordship, also gives results of Mars the Marakesh. Chandrashekhar. vijayadas_pradeep wrote: Dear Chandrashekhar ji What could be the reason for no children in her chart. Thanks Pradeep vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Narasimha, > I shall try to see the same sad event from Vimshottary Dasha > perspective. Its accuracy is amazing. > She was running Dasha of 12th Lord Mercury Antardasha of Rahu who > occupies Capricorn, thus capable of giving results of Yoga Karaka Saturn > and gets aspect of both Saturn and Venus (8th Lord, besides being > Lagnesh. Pratyantar is of Venus the 8th Lord again. Saturn acts as > Killer when associating with other Killer. Venus gives results of Saturn > and vice-a-versa in each other's Maha/ Antar dasha or Antar/Pratyantar. > In transit Saturn turned retrograde recently and conjoins Natal Saturn > aspecting 7th house. Jupiter <a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=lord%20of" onmouseover="window.status='Lord of'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">Lord of</a> 3rd and 6th aspects Natal 6th and > 8th in transit. Venus joins Lagna and squares Natal Venus and Saturn. So > does Ketu. Moon and Sun are in Maraka 2nd house aspecting the 8th. It is > interesting that the Sookshma dasha of Mercury and Prana of Rahu and > Deha Dasha of Marakesh Mars was operating at the time of death. > Chandrashekhar. > > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao wrote: > > > Namaste all, > > > > This is sad news. I will make one quick astrological point. > > > > Smt Subbulakshmi has the 7th lord Mars in lagna. According to Maharshi > > Parasara, Dwisaptati sama dasa works in her chart, in addition to > > Vimsottari dasa. You can see that she is running Moon antardasa in > > Jupiter mahadasa as per this dasa. Both the planets are in the 7th > > house of death. The logic is quite straight-forward if we use > > Dwisaptati sama dasa. > > > > Here are the calculations for those who want to cross-check: > > > > Dwi-saptati sama dasa (applicable if lagna lord is in 7th or 7th lord > > is in lagna): > > > > Maha Dasas: > > > > Mars: 1908-08-12 (16:30:06) - 1917-08-12 (23:54:15) > > Merc: 1917-08-12 (23:54:15) - 1926-08-13 (7:01:12) > > Jup: 1926-08-13 (7:01:12) - 1935-08-13 (14:31:18) > > Ven: 1935-08-13 (14:31:18) - 1944-08-12 (21:56:39) > > Sat: 1944-08-12 (21:56:39) - 1953-08-13 (5:10:14) > > Rah: 1953-08-13 (5:10:14) - 1962-08-13 (12:30:11) > > Sun: 1962-08-13 (12:30:11) - 1971-08-13 (19:57:55) > > Moon: 1971-08-13 (19:57:55) - 1980-08-13 (3:19:35) > > > > Mars: 1980-08-13 (3:19:35) - 1989-08-13 (10:35:54) > > Merc: 1989-08-13 (10:35:54) - 1998-08-13 (17:56:03) > > Jup: 1998-08-13 (17:56:03) - 2007-08-14 (1:16:58) <<<< > > > > Antardasas in Jupiter MD: > > > > Jup: 1998-08-13 (17:56:03) - 1999-09-29 (9:30:03) > > Ven: 1999-09-29 (9:30:03) - 2000-11-12 (21:45:39) > > Sat: 2000-11-12 (21:45:39) - 2001-12-27 (12:51:20) > > Rah: 2001-12-27 (12:51:20) - 2003-02-10 (0:38:03) > > Sun: 2003-02-10 (0:38:03) - 2004-03-26 (4:36:42) > > Moon: 2004-03-26 (4:36:42) - 2005-05-11 (11:34:05) <<<< > > Mars: 2005-05-11 (11:34:05) - 2006-06-27 (16:31:25) > > Merc: 2006-06-27 (16:31:25) - 2007-08-14 (1:16:58) > > > > Those who want to study the chart of Sri PV Narasimha Rao may do well > > to use Chaturaseeti sama dasa in addition to Vimsottari dasa. If the > > 10th lord is in 10th, that is the dasa recommended by Maharshi > > Parasara. Using that dasa, Sri PVN Rao was India's Prime Minister > > during the dasa of Mercury who is in 10th in own house with Sun and Mars. > > > > Sri PVN Rao is running Jupiter dasa right now. Jupiter is the 7th lord > > and certainly capable of giving death. But the antardasa right now is > > that of Sun. I am not sure if Sun can give death. Moon antardasa will > > start next year and that can certainly give death, as Moon occupies > > the 7th house! > > > > May Lord Shiva prove me wrong and give a very long life to the beloved > > former PM! > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > PVR Narasimha Rao > > > > PS: I am cc'ing this mail to vedic astrology , as people > > there will find this data useful too! > > > > > M.S. Subbulakshmi dead > > > I got up from the bed, thought I would see the letters in > > > email and also hear news fearing that I would hear bad news > > > about one of the two: P.V. Narasimha Rao a former prime > > > minister of India or M.S. Subbulakshmi, a very respected > > > female singer of Karnatic music. > > > Subbulakshmi died.You may discuss her horoscope. The data > > > is > > > 16 September 1916 > > > 9/30 AM ( nearly correct) > > > MADURAI > > > Lagna Tula 19/50 > > > Moon in Mesha 25/19 > > > Died on the midnight of 11/12 December 2004. > > > Vimshottari dasha at the time of death Mercury/Rahu. > > > KEEP THIS HOROSCOPE IN YOUR HOROSCOPE DATA FOR FUTURE RESEARCH. > > > > > > ===== > > > Yours sincerely, > > > K.N.Rao, F-291 Saraswati Kunj, Patparganj, I.P.Extension, Delhi 110092. > > > Phones 272-1624/ 272-1625 > > > sales@a <sales@a>... > > > website www//journalofastrology.com > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 Dear Lakshmi, In continuation of my previous mail since I missed answering your last sentence question. "With 9.30am as TOB, in D-9 the 5th lord Moon is debilitated and unable to protect the house. Any particular reason, Sir, for ignoring these afflictions? ." Even if Moon is in debilitation it has moved to the 9th house and derives some strength, it also gets aspect of an Exalted Jupiter (also Vakra), who is also Lagnesh. Putrakaraka is on the other hand severely afflicted and is placed in Putrabhava, that too in Cancer Rasi. Thus I gave more weightage to that affliction. No doubt, Lord of the 5th being debilitated adds to overall problems in the chart. Regards, Chandrashekhar. lakshmi ramesh wrote: Om Gurave Namah Namaste Chandrasekharji, Which TOB are you using for M.S.? Because for 8:26:47am that I am using, Jupiter though he is certainly the 5th lord, occupies 9H in exaltation in navamsa and 8H in saptamsa. He does not occupy 5H in any chart. Though I could be wrong, I feel that this time could be more correct because in this case Moon and Venus occupy navamsa lagna and the 2nd (voice) and 5th (bhakthi) lord Jupiter's (also Ishta devata) exaltation in 9th is consistent with Mercury's exaltation in rasi chart. Even in dasamsa you would find Jupiter exalted in 9th along with Venus and in d-20 the 8th house has saraswathi yoga of Venus and Mercury. And the 8L is in 2nd house along with A10! In D-60 too, the nodal axis is along the 2-8 houses and AK Rahu occupies 2nd house (Cancer!) along with gulika and mandi. No doubt M.S. had to drink her own share of poison, but she sucked out poison from many hearts with her gaana-amrita. When 9.30 am is used, the second lord and 9th lord is indeed exalted, but in the 11H along with Sun and Rahu. And, I am more inclined to think that sattwik Jupiter, conjunct ketu, as 2nd lord defines her divine voice better than the fiery Mars. But whichever time is used, Jupiter is definitely the chara as well as the sthira putrakaraka and is heavily afflicted by Mars in all the above charts, as well as in D-6 and D-30. With 9.30am as TOB, in D-9 the 5th lord Moon is debilitated and unable to protect the house. Any particular reason, Sir, for ignoring these afflictions? . Regards, Lakshmi Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Look at Lord of the 5th Saturn afflicted by Ketu, and Jupiter the Putra Karaka in exaltation in the 5th house in Navamsha chart. Then look at Saptamsha which has Jupiter again in the 5th house and 5th Lord Mercury in 8th (for Saptamsha). Remember what I say about Jupiter harming the Bhava he occupies, especially if strong? Note that Ketu acting like Saturn and Venus besides owning 2nd house by co Lordship, also gives results of Mars the Marakesh. Chandrashekhar. vijayadas_pradeep wrote: Dear Chandrashekhar ji What could be the reason for no children in her chart. Thanks Pradeep vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Narasimha, > I shall try to see the same sad event from Vimshottary Dasha > perspective. Its accuracy is amazing. > She was running Dasha of 12th Lord Mercury Antardasha of Rahu who > occupies Capricorn, thus capable of giving results of Yoga Karaka Saturn > and gets aspect of both Saturn and Venus (8th Lord, besides being > Lagnesh. Pratyantar is of Venus the 8th Lord again. Saturn acts as > Killer when associating with other Killer. Venus gives results of Saturn > and vice-a-versa in each other's Maha/ Antar dasha or Antar/Pratyantar. > In transit Saturn turned retrograde recently and conjoins Natal Saturn > aspecting 7th house. Jupiter <a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=lord%20of" onmouseover="window.status='Lord of'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">Lord of</a> 3rd and 6th aspects Natal 6th and > 8th in transit. Venus joins Lagna and squares Natal Venus and Saturn. So > does Ketu. Moon and Sun are in Maraka 2nd house aspecting the 8th. It is > interesting that the Sookshma dasha of Mercury and Prana of Rahu and > Deha Dasha of Marakesh Mars was operating at the time of death. > Chandrashekhar. > > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao wrote: > > > Namaste all, > > > > This is sad news. I will make one quick astrological point. > > > > Smt Subbulakshmi has the 7th lord Mars in lagna. According to Maharshi > > Parasara, Dwisaptati sama dasa works in her chart, in addition to > > Vimsottari dasa. You can see that she is running Moon antardasa in > > Jupiter mahadasa as per this dasa. Both the planets are in the 7th > > house of death. The logic is quite straight-forward if we use > > Dwisaptati sama dasa. > > > > Here are the calculations for those who want to cross-check: > > > > Dwi-saptati sama dasa (applicable if lagna lord is in 7th or 7th lord > > is in lagna): > > > > Maha Dasas: > > > > Mars: 1908-08-12 (16:30:06) - 1917-08-12 (23:54:15) > > Merc: 1917-08-12 (23:54:15) - 1926-08-13 (7:01:12) > > Jup: 1926-08-13 (7:01:12) - 1935-08-13 (14:31:18) > > Ven: 1935-08-13 (14:31:18) - 1944-08-12 (21:56:39) > > Sat: 1944-08-12 (21:56:39) - 1953-08-13 (5:10:14) > > Rah: 1953-08-13 (5:10:14) - 1962-08-13 (12:30:11) > > Sun: 1962-08-13 (12:30:11) - 1971-08-13 (19:57:55) > > Moon: 1971-08-13 (19:57:55) - 1980-08-13 (3:19:35) > > > > Mars: 1980-08-13 (3:19:35) - 1989-08-13 (10:35:54) > > Merc: 1989-08-13 (10:35:54) - 1998-08-13 (17:56:03) > > Jup: 1998-08-13 (17:56:03) - 2007-08-14 (1:16:58) <<<< > > > > Antardasas in Jupiter MD: > > > > Jup: 1998-08-13 (17:56:03) - 1999-09-29 (9:30:03) > > Ven: 1999-09-29 (9:30:03) - 2000-11-12 (21:45:39) > > Sat: 2000-11-12 (21:45:39) - 2001-12-27 (12:51:20) > > Rah: 2001-12-27 (12:51:20) - 2003-02-10 (0:38:03) > > Sun: 2003-02-10 (0:38:03) - 2004-03-26 (4:36:42) > > Moon: 2004-03-26 (4:36:42) - 2005-05-11 (11:34:05) <<<< > > Mars: 2005-05-11 (11:34:05) - 2006-06-27 (16:31:25) > > Merc: 2006-06-27 (16:31:25) - 2007-08-14 (1:16:58) > > > > Those who want to study the chart of Sri PV Narasimha Rao may do well > > to use Chaturaseeti sama dasa in addition to Vimsottari dasa. If the > > 10th lord is in 10th, that is the dasa recommended by Maharshi > > Parasara. Using that dasa, Sri PVN Rao was India's Prime Minister > > during the dasa of Mercury who is in 10th in own house with Sun and Mars. > > > > Sri PVN Rao is running Jupiter dasa right now. Jupiter is the 7th lord > > and certainly capable of giving death. But the antardasa right now is > > that of Sun. I am not sure if Sun can give death. Moon antardasa will > > start next year and that can certainly give death, as Moon occupies > > the 7th house! > > > > May Lord Shiva prove me wrong and give a very long life to the beloved > > former PM! > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > PVR Narasimha Rao > > > > PS: I am cc'ing this mail to vedic astrology , as people > > there will find this data useful too! > > > > > M.S. Subbulakshmi dead > > > I got up from the bed, thought I would see the letters in > > > email and also hear news fearing that I would hear bad news > > > about one of the two: P.V. Narasimha Rao a former prime > > > minister of India or M.S. Subbulakshmi, a very respected > > > female singer of Karnatic music. > > > Subbulakshmi died.You may discuss her horoscope. The data > > > is > > > 16 September 1916 > > > 9/30 AM ( nearly correct) > > > MADURAI > > > Lagna Tula 19/50 > > > Moon in Mesha 25/19 > > > Died on the midnight of 11/12 December 2004. > > > Vimshottari dasha at the time of death Mercury/Rahu. > > > KEEP THIS HOROSCOPE IN YOUR HOROSCOPE DATA FOR FUTURE RESEARCH. > > > > > > ===== > > > Yours sincerely, > > > K.N.Rao, F-291 Saraswati Kunj, Patparganj, I.P.Extension, Delhi 110092. > > > Phones 272-1624/ 272-1625 > > > sales@a <sales@a>... > > > website www//journalofastrology.com > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... 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