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MUCH.......Sabri <korua (AT) efes (DOT) net.tr> wrote:

Dear Jatin,My humble thinking and limited experience; by spiritual practice one

evolves and grows out from ones chart at a certain pace. Big karma gets reduced

to little, or even broken down to little pieces, hence does not hurt as much.

But if the karma is real heavy then it may not be possible to completely clear

it away. Even very highly evolved souls keep on reaping karma, also they "take

on" the karma of the people they are guiding. There is no scientific proof as

to how much karma is releived etc. one I beleive feels it. Also people not

doing the known spiritual practices, if they are evolving through other ways,

e.g. philosophy etc., may be entitled to the same process.Personal thoughts

above, best wishes, Sabri.vedic astrology, Jatin Prakash

<jatinprakash>

wrote:> i wonder one thing.> sankaracharya would have done so many

pujas/spiritual> practices in his life.So how come he did not get> freedom from

bonds of karma. Also with so many time> devoted to relgious practices like

mantra etc should> have changed his destiny to better. If we belive that> he is

getting whta is in his chart what is the use of> spiritual practices and

remedies.> > --- Korengai <jiabbot-lists@s...> wrote:> > > > > Dear All, > > >

> I think such traditional aphoristic pronouncements> > are always intended> >

to be explored in context and/or to serve as> > mnemonic devices - to be> >

layered atop other placements and significations. > > To take such dicta> > at

face value seems quite absurd - and also> > perpetuates common> > apprehensions

and stereotypes about

Jyotisha.> > > > Sarva mangalam,> > > > J.I. Abbot> > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "nameisego"> > <nameisego>> > wrote:> > >

> > > Dear Friends,> > > There is a saying in Gujarati which means,> > > 12th

house Rahu either puts the jathaka in fetters> > (Hancuffs) or Hangs> > > him.

> > > This combination is in chart of Yassar Arafat> > (Vrishabha Lagna) chart

> > > He spent last years of his life in imprisonment> > confined to a house

in> > > Palestine.> > > 2nd chart is of Sri Sankaracharya J.S> > > > > > > > >

Much against the sentimental postings posted by> > all of you speaking in> > >

favour > > > of Sri Sankaracharya, Undersigned begs to differ>

> from you all,> > > simply because > > > the analysis of his chart by HP Theory

tells a> > different story.> > > This is the story of uncontrolled Mercury

placed> > with ketu in KL chart.> > > His chart as seen from KL lagna with R1

position,> > will be as under.> > > > > > DOB : 18th July 1935> > > TOB : 7.00

PM> > > 79E26> > > 10N42> > > > > > Dhanur....Rahu (Kaal Lagna)Sake, Guke.> > >

Kumbha....Moon, Sat ®> > > Mithunam..Ketu, Budha, SaRa, GuRa.> > >

Kataka....Surya> > > Simha.....Sukra> > > Tula......Kuja, Guru> > > Dasa at

birth : Kuja> > > Present Dasa Bhukti....Budha-Sani-Ketu> > > > > > > > >

Analysis :> > > > > > R1 POSITION or KAALA LAGNA

> > > > > > He is running 5th pratyari dasa of Budha who is> > associated with

Ketu, > > > SaRa and GuRa are in 7th from KL.> > > > > > In KL, Budha becomes

Badhakadhipati and is> > occupying Badhakasthanam. > > > Asociation of Budha

with very powerful Rahus of> > Sani and Guru along> > > with Lunar Ketu is one

of the most unbecoming> > aspect of this horoscope.> > > > > > Mercury with

such an influence in his dasa period> > would make a person> > > whimsical,

resorting > > > to exteremes,Lying, cheating, fraud and make him> > perform

Dushkarma .> > > It would make him very ambitious.> > > > > > If in

trade/finances, such a combination would> > make a person resort to> > >

illegal> > > and Unethical ways and

means.Association of> > Mercury with Ketu/Rahu> > > would give a > > > person

association with dushkarmis like Robbers,> > cheats, Murderers etc.> > > > > >

such Mercury would make the person Buddhi Bhrasta.> > > Mercury in 6th from

Natural Lagna with ketu would> > give him diseases > > > connected with

ductless glands(Hormone secreting),> > hence he would> > > suffer from Metal

tension, > > > and diseases of pancreas, stomach, heart etc.> > > > > > > > >

R10 POSITION> > > > > > If you take up this chart with R10 position BRL,> > to

check his Karma> > > and Bhagya ,> > > It makes the picture much clearer.> > >

> > > Both the Karmadhipati Guru and Bhagyadhipati Kuja> > are in 8th

position.> >

> Mercury again becomes badhakadhipati in this> > position. Since 10th lord> > >

is also Rajyasthanadhipati, government would fail> > to protect him due> > > to

karmabadha/karmapida.> > > > > > 12th house is occupied by Vakri Sani and> >

Chandra.Sani being in 9th> > > from Dasanatha would bring dihonour/padachyuti>

> from high post, > > > destruction of Dharma etc in its bhukti if dasa is> > a

bad dasa.> > > > > > > > > In this case all these things indicate, > > > > > >

THAT THE JATHAKA WOULD BE DISHONOURED, HE WILL> > HAVE TO SUFFER> > >

IMPRISONMENT/PUNISHMENT > > > AND BEFORE SANI BHUKTI ENDS, HE WOULD HAVE TO> >

ABDICATE HIS POSITION.> > > MORE WORSE THAN THIS IS, HE HAS A GANDAM TO HIS> >

LIFE . > > > HE

MAY SUFFER SOME BODY HARM WHICH MAY BE SELF> > INFLICTED ALSO.> > > > > > God ,

please show kindly Light.> > > Tamasoma Jyotir gamaya.> > > > > > Tatvam-Asi> >

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