Guest guest Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Dear Chandrashekhar sir, I beg to differ sir, on this. It is definitely not a black day for me (iam a hindu). Just because he is a head of Hindu mutt, do you think he should go free of the crime ? You reap what you sow(karma). It will catch you sooner or later. Even Ravana(though a very great siva bhakta) was punished for his wrongdoings. If Jayendra Saraswati have committed this crime he should be punished for the same. I have been following this case for quite sometime (it started about corruptions,misuse of power at the mutt)..much before the victim was killed, and it definitely points to the top people in the mutt. Remember this Govt is friend of Jayendra Saraswati. Police are not that dumb to put a very infuential person in jail without any reason that too now.(with the popularity for killing veerappan). Only couple of months ago our president took Jayendra's Blessing. With Jayendra's political infuences and reach, do you think this govt or the police would have acted in that fashion without any hard evidence????) A charcoal will not become a diamond easily, it has to withstand heat & pressure. We will wait and watch whether Jayendra is a coal or a diamond. I can add more but i would like to stop here. Sorry i have offended your feelings. Regards & Have a Nice Day Senthil vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote: > Dear R. C. Srivastava, > It, indeed, is a black day not only for Hindus but the government of the > day who thought it fit to arrest H.H.Jayendra Saraswati on Dhanateras > Day while performing Puja. It does not take a very intelligent person to > understand the machinations working behind this. The police say that > they were looking for him in Bangalore. This, when Kamakoti website had > given his specific program well in advance and that, precisely, is where > he was when arrested. This is what the Supreme court said about arrests > in case of Murasoli Maran whom too the Tamil Nadu C.M. Jayalalita had > arrested in night. > > "The police personnel effecting the arrest should inform a relative, or > friend or a person interested in his welfare of the arrest and place of > custody. The Court has also frowned on arrests being made at unearthly > hours and transgressing the fundamentals of fair play and natural justice." > > The Law commission has made the following recommendations about arrests > and these are accepted by the Government. > " > > The National Police Commission, comprising the former Cabinet Secretary > and the Governor of West Bengal, Dharam Vira, as the chairperson, Mr C. > V. Narasimhan, former Director of Central Bureau of Investigation, as > the secretary, and distinguished persons from various walks of life as > members, had remarked that the arsenal of powers of arrest, search, > seizure, institution of criminal cases and so on enjoyed by the police > afforded a vast scope for misconduct by police personnel of different > ranks causing harm and harassment to citizens. It laid down the > following very stringent criteria for making arrests during > investigation of a cognisable case: > > **The case should involve a grave offence like murder, dacoity, robbery > or rape, making an arrest necessary to restrain the accused and infuse > confidence among terror-stricken victims; * > > **There should be a reasonable presumption that the accused is likely to > abscond and evade the processes of law, or given to violent behaviour, > or is likely to commit further offences. * > > **The accused should be a habitual offender and it is essential to take > him into custody so that he is not free to commit more, or similar, > offences.* > > The report of the Commission had been accepted by the Government which > had circulated to the State Governments and police forces all over the > country a Code of Conduct to which they were required to adhere by way > of pledging their allegiance to the Constitution and their sacred > commitment to human rights and dignity." > > Since none of this applies, the element of conspiracy to defame the > Acharya and Hindus at large to appease certain politicians is obvious. > Note Rahu in 12th and its action becomes clear. > > In so far as forewarning the Acharya by Jyotishis is concerned, I am of > the firm view that being the authority on Vedas and Vedangas he knew > about the events in advance. The Acharya has great knowledge of > astrology himself. Like a true Yogi, he , in his wisdom perhaps decided > to undergo what is to happen. > > Having said that , if we look at the chart as a matter of academic > interest, the fact of Bandhana caused by Saturn and Moon in 2nd and Rahu > in 12th is apparent. Lagna is in Papakartari. Dasha operating is of 6th > Lord Mercury afflicted by Ketu and occupying the 6th house (Note that > Mercury gets Kendradhipati dosha in Navamsha and is Marakesh there). > Antar dasha is of Saturn who is Marakesh by virtue of being Lagna Lord > and capable of activating Rahu results who is the other planet giving > papakartari to Lagna. Mars the 11th lord gives Pratyantar and I think > the Prana/sukshma dasha would be Moon who is Marakesh. In Transit Saturn > is aspecting Lagna and Jupiter the 12th and 3rd Lord is in 9th. The > event was triggered when Saturn turned retrograde. Police are telling > that they decided he was the main accused on 9th of this month as per > T.V. News. > > It is interesting to note that Transit Saturn is in 6/8 position to > Natal Saturn and Transit Guru is in 2/12 Position to Natal Jupiter. Moon > is lacking Paksha Bala and SUN, Mars and Moon are all afflicted by Ketu > in Transit as well as trining natal Lagna. Yet Jupiter aspecting Lagna > and Saturn aspecting it will make him emerge stronger. > > Of course this is my view and others more learned than me might hold a > different view. > Chandrashekhar. > > > R.C.Srivastava wrote: > > > *Dear list, * > > > > ** > > > > *Jyotish is mainly to forewarn ,may be destiny unalterable but none > > could foresee this important event in the life of Sankaracharya. Or > > may be out of humility did not mention so.* > > > > *Every Indian is bound to be shocked to hear the news about > > allegations on His holiness Sri Jayendra Saraswati . No body to my > > mind predicted about such a reputation damaging possibility .He is in > > custody with effect from Nov 12( the`Black Diwali day ) to 26 Nov at > > **Vellore** prison.* > > > > *Natural question arises, how a person who is held in high esteem and > > is embodiment of divine Guna by conduct and traditional samskara; > > revered by millions of Hindus has to suffer detention on distant and > > rarest possibility of involvement in a heinous crime like Murder. His > > horoscope has been highly studied by savants and masters alike. * > > > > *One hopes charges are not only proved baseless but ordeal ends as > > early as possible. Amavasya has brought downfall of reputation to > > institution of Sanyasa, Loss of reputation is equivalent to death in > > terms of NITI Shastra.* > > > > *DOB **18 july 1935** at Irul Nekki 10 N 42 79E 26 19 PM as this Data > > is used in crux of vedic astrology.* > > > > * * > > > > *Sukra dasa - sani Bhukti and Guru pratayantara started on 21 th oct > > 2004.* > > > > *Although Mahadasa nath is Yogkarka from both the lagna and moon it is > > in Kaal amsa.Bhukti nath sani is Retrograde ,it is with Saturn. > > Bhuktinath Saturn is in Ghora amsa. Jupitor is Pratyantra nath is > > malefic from Lagna and is in Vanmsa Kshya Amsa.* > > > > *Is it suggestive that D60 Amsa lord manifests its attributes in > > significant way irrespective to soul status.Prima faci some past life > > misdeed surfaces into this event, is the only possible conclusion.* > > > > *Annual TP chart and daily TP charts also are not pinpointing the > > event.May be i need more understanding on this technique.* > > > > *Will the gurus like to dwell upon and concentrate how the mystery of > > unknown be gauged prior to occurance of EVENT,and jyotish attains a > > status of useful science apart from being a acedamic subject.* > > > > *Although it is sad but can gurus throw light why this event happened.* > > > > *Hari om tatsat.* > > > > * * > > > > * * > > > > * * > > > > **Jyotish is mainly to forewarn ,may be destiny unalterable but none > > could foresee this important event in the life of Sankaracharya. Or > > may be out of humility did not mention so.** > > > > **Every Indian is bound to be shocked to hear the news about > > allegations on His holiness Sri Jayendra Saraswati . No body to my > > mind predicted about such a reputation damaging possibility .He is in > > custody with effect from Nov 12( the`Black Diwali day ) to 26 Nov at > > **Vellore** prison.** > > > > **Natural question arises, how a person who is held in high esteem and > > is embodiment of divine Guna by conduct and traditional samskara; > > revered by millions of Hindus has to suffer detention on distant and > > rarest possibility of involvement in a heinous crime like Murder. His > > horoscope has been highly studied by savants and masters alike. ** > > > > **One hopes charges are not only proved baseless but ordeal ends as > > early as possible. Amavasya has brought downfall of reputation to > > institution of Sanyasa, Loss of reputation is equivalent to death in > > terms of NITI Shastra.** > > > > **DOB **18 july 1935** at Irul Nekki 10 N 42 79E 26 19 PM as this > > Data is used in crux of vedic astrology.** > > > > ** ** > > > > **Sukra dasa - sani Bhukti and Guru pratayantara started on 21 th > > oct 2004.** > > > > **Although Mahadasa nath is Yogkarka from both the lagna and moon it > > is in Kaal amsa.Bhukti nath sani is Retrograde ,it is with Saturn. > > Bhuktinath Saturn is in Ghora amsa. 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Guest guest Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Namaste friends, When a matter is under judicial probe, there is no need to speculate and jump to conclusions (especially if those conclusions are negative). We normally extend the "innocent until proven guilty" presumption to anyone accused of a crime. More so if a reverred person is involved. Senthil's arguments have no merit. Just because Swamiji is well-connected and yet he is arrested, it certainly does not mean the charges must somehow be correct. That is a nonsensical argument. Even people who took his blessings can turn against him if they think there is political mileage in those actions. DMK has been upping the ante recently and there was immense political pressure on the AIADMK government. I am not saying that I have a proof that he is innocent. All I am saying is that he should be presumed to be innocent for now. Let the judicial process take its course. There is no need to convince us that the charges are probably correct. That is totally unnecessary, Senthil. If someone uses astrological techniques to guess whether Swamiji is innocent or not, I can appreciate it. But non-astrological mails such as this are idle gosspping and they are in a poor taste. Talking about finding out whether Swamiji is "charcoal" or "diamond" as Senthil said below is in poor taste. Even if it turns out that Swamiji had some weaknesses and blessed some wrongdoings at the mutt, he is still a far more learned and wise man than most of us. It is quite arrogant and foolish of Senthil to talk in those terms about a saint of Swamiji's stature. He seems to lack humility and does not seem to understand the simple courtesy of extending the benefit of doubt. This has nothing to do with me being a Hindu. If the same thing had happened to Pope or a respected leader from another religion, I would be talking the same way. My message is simple: Give the benefit of doubt and show humility. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha List founder & admin > Dear Chandrashekhar sir,> > I beg to differ sir, on this.> It is definitely not a black day for me (iam a hindu).> > Just because he is a head of Hindu mutt, do you think he should > go free of the crime ?> > You reap what you sow(karma). It will catch you sooner or later.> > Even Ravana(though a very great siva bhakta) was punished for his > wrongdoings.> If Jayendra Saraswati have committed this crime he should be > punished for the same.> > I have been following this case for quite sometime> (it started about corruptions,misuse of power at the mutt)..much > before the victim was killed,> and it definitely points to the top people in the mutt.> > Remember this Govt is friend of Jayendra Saraswati.> Police are not that dumb to put a very infuential person in jail > without any reason that too now.(with the popularity for killing > veerappan). > > Only couple of months ago our president took Jayendra's Blessing. > With Jayendra's political infuences and reach, do you think this > govt or the police would have acted in that fashion without any hard > evidence????) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 Dear Senthil Namste Here is what I gathered and compiled from various Internet reources. Needless to say that one's concern should be dharma alone, nothing else. If indeed His Holiness Jayendra Sarasvati (HH) committed the crime, he must be punished. But, let us see if prima facie HH could've had a motive to kill Sankararaman (SR). According to press report at rediff-- for the last 7 years SR has been managing the accounts of another reputed temple in Kanchipuram, NOT the HH Sankara mutha. So, he couldn't have been privy to any financial irregularities on the part of HH, supposing that any such irregularity existed. By all reports, since 1987, SR had an estranged relationship with HH. So, even if he had been allowed to visit the matha, it is just unlikely that he knew the details of the accounts. So, what could he have exposed? Or, supposing that he exposed, HH Sankara matha is a private trust. The funds are distributed at the sole discretion of HH. They are not accountable to the government as to how they spend their funds. How could it have hurt HH anymore than a calumny would've? So, prima facie, I don't find a compelling motive. But, look further at the evidences provided: 1. Alleged phone calls from the cell phone of HH to the accused murderers: If indeed HH had plotted the murder, will he talking directly to hit men from his cell phone? His lawyer pointed out that HH doesn't carry the cell himself.(I was in HH matha from 11 sep till 14 sep all the time . I never saw HH carrying any cell phone or talking on cell phone) Why is this supposed evidence being released several weeks after the murder? I would like to know what kind of change, configuration and security procedures the cell phone company call transaction system has. Is it foolproof at the levels of on-line transaction and backup? If not, this is no evidence at all. 2. Rupees 1 million was withdrawn the day after the murder and parts of that supposedly recovered from some of the criminals: My initial inquiries reveal that the matha always withdraws anywhere between Rupees 2,00,000 to Rupees 25,00,000 every day. Often parts of that amount are deposited back. This is due to 2 reasons -- one, the matha runs many projects and two, the matha receives large donations. Now, if the matha were to pay the hitmen, obviously they won't leave a glaring trail. They would pay through a circuitous route or they would pay from the collected undeposited donations. Why will they pay from the cash withdrawn from the bank thus digging their own grave? I just spoke to a respected senior banker. He said that the banks, as a general practice, do not record the serial number of the currency notes disbursed. It is done only when there is a CBI request to do so. Normally, CBI sleuths make such request only when they want to trap a criminal. In the case of HH, nobody could've predicted that he was going to plot the death of a temple accountant, and hence laid a trap in a small town of Tamilnadu. So, the onus is on the police to prove that the currency supposedly recovered from the criminals were disbursed by the bank to the matha. But, it doesn't stop there. The currency was supposedly recovered from the murderers several weeks after the murder of SR. How do we know that it did not pass several legitimate hands after leaving the matha before supposedly landing on the lap of the murderers? Again, the prosecution has to prove it didn't. 3. An alleged letter from SR to HH threatening that SR will expose HH: Per the police, HH handed this letter over to the murderers and asked them to trace the sender and his address. The police claim that they recovered this letter from one of the murderers. Nothing sounds sillier. Why should the pontiff hand over the letter to the murderers? How can they trace the anonymous sender? If HH didn't have a clue about the sender, how will the hit men have? If HH knew who sent it, where is the necessity to hand over the letter? Kanchipuram is not Baghdad. HH obviously knew where SR worked and lived. So, if the motive was to murder SR, all he had to do was order the hit men. Why at all hand over the letter? Obviously, one can see that there is a planting of evidences. Today, Karunanidhi declared that the government should take over the Kanchi matha. As usual, Hindus will focus their attention on Karunanidhi and feel outraged by his claims. This is because Hindus can't think critically. I believe, HH is just being used as a smokescreen and a scarificial lamb by somebody else. Who could that be? Can we find astrological reason in neecha Rahu in 12th? SR has been supposedly petitioning the Hindu Religious Endowment Board about some irregularities. There are reports that the officials of the temple where he worked were unhappy because he was honest and strict. So, the reports that he sent, if at all they contained any incriminating evidence, pertained to the temple that he was intimately familiar with. It couldn't have pertained to the HH Sankara matha. So, someone felt threatened by the reports he sent. SR had to be murdered. It can't be said for certain who could've felt threatened. But, one oddity should stand out: Jayalalitha, despite her proximity to the matha for years, never expressed a word of support for HH. More interestingly, I just received reports from Chennai that her Jaya TV had been as hostile towards HH as the Karunanidhi owned Sun TV. Why this sudden change on Jayalalitha's part? Okay, the missionaries, Dravidianists and Congress all had vested interest in humiliating HH. But, I think their role here is incidental. Somebody felt compelled that the murder case of SR doesn't go to CBI. Somebody was in a hurry in packing off HH to prison. Probably wanting him to die there. Who? Why? The answer can be found only when the REAL complaints filed by SR were known - if at all he really filed any. There is no confirmation that he did. If somebody had an urgent need to implicate HH, some matha official obliged them with a few phone calls. Thanks alot for your Time and Sapce. Prabodh Vekhande Jai Jai Shankar Har Har Shankar vedic astrology, "senthilastra" <senthilastra> wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekhar sir, > > I beg to differ sir, on this. > It is definitely not a black day for me (iam a hindu). > > Just because he is a head of Hindu mutt, do you think he should > go free of the crime ? > > You reap what you sow(karma). It will catch you sooner or later. > > Even Ravana(though a very great siva bhakta) was punished for his > wrongdoings. > If Jayendra Saraswati have committed this crime he should be > punished for the same. > > I have been following this case for quite sometime > (it started about corruptions,misuse of power at the mutt)..much > before the victim was killed, > and it definitely points to the top people in the mutt. > > Remember this Govt is friend of Jayendra Saraswati. > Police are not that dumb to put a very infuential person in jail > without any reason that too now.(with the popularity for killing > veerappan). > > Only couple of months ago our president took Jayendra's Blessing. > With Jayendra's political infuences and reach, do you think this > govt or the police would have acted in that fashion without any hard > evidence????) > > A charcoal will not become a diamond easily, it has to withstand > heat & pressure. > > We will wait and watch whether Jayendra is a coal or a diamond. > > I can add more but i would like to stop here. > > Sorry i have offended your feelings. > > Regards & Have a Nice Day > Senthil > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel> > wrote: > > Dear R. C. Srivastava, > > It, indeed, is a black day not only for Hindus but the government > of the > > day who thought it fit to arrest H.H.Jayendra Saraswati on > Dhanateras > > Day while performing Puja. It does not take a very intelligent > person to > > understand the machinations working behind this. The police say > that > > they were looking for him in Bangalore. This, when Kamakoti > website had > > given his specific program well in advance and that, precisely, is > where > > he was when arrested. This is what the Supreme court said about > arrests > > in case of Murasoli Maran whom too the Tamil Nadu C.M. Jayalalita > had > > arrested in night. > > > > "The police personnel effecting the arrest should inform a > relative, or > > friend or a person interested in his welfare of the arrest and > place of > > custody. The Court has also frowned on arrests being made at > unearthly > > hours and transgressing the fundamentals of fair play and natural > justice." > > > > The Law commission has made the following recommendations about > arrests > > and these are accepted by the Government. > > " > > > > The National Police Commission, comprising the former Cabinet > Secretary > > and the Governor of West Bengal, Dharam Vira, as the chairperson, > Mr C. > > V. Narasimhan, former Director of Central Bureau of Investigation, > as > > the secretary, and distinguished persons from various walks of > life as > > members, had remarked that the arsenal of powers of arrest, > search, > > seizure, institution of criminal cases and so on enjoyed by the > police > > afforded a vast scope for misconduct by police personnel of > different > > ranks causing harm and harassment to citizens. It laid down the > > following very stringent criteria for making arrests during > > investigation of a cognisable case: > > > > **The case should involve a grave offence like murder, dacoity, > robbery > > or rape, making an arrest necessary to restrain the accused and > infuse > > confidence among terror-stricken victims; * > > > > **There should be a reasonable presumption that the accused is > likely to > > abscond and evade the processes of law, or given to violent > behaviour, > > or is likely to commit further offences. * > > > > **The accused should be a habitual offender and it is essential to > take > > him into custody so that he is not free to commit more, or > similar, > > offences.* > > > > The report of the Commission had been accepted by the Government > which > > had circulated to the State Governments and police forces all over > the > > country a Code of Conduct to which they were required to adhere by > way > > of pledging their allegiance to the Constitution and their sacred > > commitment to human rights and dignity." > > > > Since none of this applies, the element of conspiracy to defame > the > > Acharya and Hindus at large to appease certain politicians is > obvious. > > Note Rahu in 12th and its action becomes clear. > > > > In so far as forewarning the Acharya by Jyotishis is concerned, I > am of > > the firm view that being the authority on Vedas and Vedangas he > knew > > about the events in advance. The Acharya has great knowledge of > > astrology himself. Like a true Yogi, he , in his wisdom perhaps > decided > > to undergo what is to happen. > > > > Having said that , if we look at the chart as a matter of academic > > interest, the fact of Bandhana caused by Saturn and Moon in 2nd > and Rahu > > in 12th is apparent. Lagna is in Papakartari. Dasha operating is > of 6th > > Lord Mercury afflicted by Ketu and occupying the 6th house (Note > that > > Mercury gets Kendradhipati dosha in Navamsha and is Marakesh > there). > > Antar dasha is of Saturn who is Marakesh by virtue of being Lagna > Lord > > and capable of activating Rahu results who is the other planet > giving > > papakartari to Lagna. Mars the 11th lord gives Pratyantar and I > think > > the Prana/sukshma dasha would be Moon who is Marakesh. In Transit > Saturn > > is aspecting Lagna and Jupiter the 12th and 3rd Lord is in 9th. > The > > event was triggered when Saturn turned retrograde. Police are > telling > > that they decided he was the main accused on 9th of this month as > per > > T.V. News. > > > > It is interesting to note that Transit Saturn is in 6/8 position > to > > Natal Saturn and Transit Guru is in 2/12 Position to Natal > Jupiter. Moon > > is lacking Paksha Bala and SUN, Mars and Moon are all afflicted by > Ketu > > in Transit as well as trining natal Lagna. Yet Jupiter aspecting > Lagna > > and Saturn aspecting it will make him emerge stronger. > > > > Of course this is my view and others more learned than me might > hold a > > different view. > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > R.C.Srivastava wrote: > > > > > *Dear list, * > > > > > > ** > > > > > > *Jyotish is mainly to forewarn ,may be destiny unalterable but > none > > > could foresee this important event in the life of Sankaracharya. > Or > > > may be out of humility did not mention so.* > > > > > > *Every Indian is bound to be shocked to hear the news about > > > allegations on His holiness Sri Jayendra Saraswati . No body to > my > > > mind predicted about such a reputation damaging possibility .He > is in > > > custody with effect from Nov 12( the`Black Diwali day ) to 26 > Nov at > > > **Vellore** prison.* > > > > > > *Natural question arises, how a person who is held in high > esteem and > > > is embodiment of divine Guna by conduct and traditional > samskara; > > > revered by millions of Hindus has to suffer detention on > distant and > > > rarest possibility of involvement in a heinous crime like > Murder. His > > > horoscope has been highly studied by savants and masters alike. * > > > > > > *One hopes charges are not only proved baseless but ordeal ends > as > > > early as possible. Amavasya has brought downfall of reputation > to > > > institution of Sanyasa, Loss of reputation is equivalent to > death in > > > terms of NITI Shastra.* > > > > > > *DOB **18 july 1935** at Irul Nekki 10 N 42 79E 26 19 PM as > this Data > > > is used in crux of vedic astrology.* > > > > > > * * > > > > > > *Sukra dasa - sani Bhukti and Guru pratayantara started on 21 > th oct > > > 2004.* > > > > > > *Although Mahadasa nath is Yogkarka from both the lagna and moon > it is > > > in Kaal amsa.Bhukti nath sani is Retrograde ,it is with Saturn. > > > Bhuktinath Saturn is in Ghora amsa. Jupitor is Pratyantra nath > is > > > malefic from Lagna and is in Vanmsa Kshya Amsa.* > > > > > > *Is it suggestive that D60 Amsa lord manifests its attributes > in > > > significant way irrespective to soul status.Prima faci some > past life > > > misdeed surfaces into this event, is the only possible > conclusion.* > > > > > > *Annual TP chart and daily TP charts also are not pinpointing > the > > > event.May be i need more understanding on this technique.* > > > > > > *Will the gurus like to dwell upon and concentrate how the > mystery of > > > unknown be gauged prior to occurance of EVENT,and jyotish > attains a > > > status of useful science apart from being a acedamic subject.* > > > > > > *Although it is sad but can gurus throw light why this event > happened.* > > > > > > *Hari om tatsat.* > > > > > > * * > > > > > > * * > > > > > > * * > > > > > > **Jyotish is mainly to forewarn ,may be destiny unalterable but > none > > > could foresee this important event in the life of Sankaracharya. > Or > > > may be out of humility did not mention so.** > > > > > > **Every Indian is bound to be shocked to hear the news about > > > allegations on His holiness Sri Jayendra Saraswati . No body to > my > > > mind predicted about such a reputation damaging possibility .He > is in > > > custody with effect from Nov 12( the`Black Diwali day ) to 26 > Nov at > > > **Vellore** prison.** > > > > > > **Natural question arises, how a person who is held in high > esteem and > > > is embodiment of divine Guna by conduct and traditional > samskara; > > > revered by millions of Hindus has to suffer detention on > distant and > > > rarest possibility of involvement in a heinous crime like > Murder. His > > > horoscope has been highly studied by savants and masters alike. > ** > > > > > > **One hopes charges are not only proved baseless but ordeal ends > as > > > early as possible. Amavasya has brought downfall of reputation > to > > > institution of Sanyasa, Loss of reputation is equivalent to > death in > > > terms of NITI Shastra.** > > > > > > **DOB **18 july 1935** at Irul Nekki 10 N 42 79E 26 19 PM as > this > > > Data is used in crux of vedic astrology.** > > > > > > ** ** > > > > > > **Sukra dasa - sani Bhukti and Guru pratayantara started on 21 > th > > > oct 2004.** > > > > > > **Although Mahadasa nath is Yogkarka from both the lagna and > moon it > > > is in Kaal amsa.Bhukti nath sani is Retrograde ,it is with > Saturn. > > > Bhuktinath Saturn is in Ghora amsa. Jupitor is Pratyantra nath > is > > > malefic from Lagna and is in Vanmsa Kshya Amsa.** > > > > > > **Is it suggestive that D60 Amsa lord manifests its attributes > in > > > significant way irrespective to soul status.** > > > > > > **Annual TP chart and daily TP charts also are not pinpointing > the > > > event.** > > > > > > **Will the gurus like to dwell upon and concentrate how the > mystery of > > > unknown be gauged prior to occurance of EVENT,and jyotish > attains a > > > status of useful science apart from being a acedamic subject.** > > > > > > **Hari om tatsat.** > > > > > > ** ** > > > > > > ** ** > > > > > > ** ** > > > > > > ** ** > > > > > > ** ** > > > > > > ** ** > > > > > > ** ** > > > > > > * * > > > > > > * * > > > > > > * * > > > > > > * * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > ....... 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