Guest guest Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Dear list, Jyotish is mainly to forewarn ,may be destiny unalterable but none could foresee this important event in the life of Sankaracharya. Or may be out of humility did not mention so. Every Indian is bound to be shocked to hear the news about allegations on His holiness Sri Jayendra Saraswati . No body to my mind predicted about such a reputation damaging possibility .He is in custody with effect from Nov 12( the`Black Diwali day ) to 26 Nov at Vellore prison. Natural question arises, how a person who is held in high esteem and is embodiment of divine Guna by conduct and traditional samskara; revered by millions of Hindus has to suffer detention on distant and rarest possibility of involvement in a heinous crime like Murder. His horoscope has been highly studied by savants and masters alike. One hopes charges are not only proved baseless but ordeal ends as early as possible. Amavasya has brought downfall of reputation to institution of Sanyasa, Loss of reputation is equivalent to death in terms of NITI Shastra. DOB 18 july 1935 at Irul Nekki 10 N 42 79E 26 19 PM as this Data is used in crux of vedic astrology. Sukra dasa – sani Bhukti and Guru pratayantara started on 21 th oct 2004. Although Mahadasa nath is Yogkarka from both the lagna and moon it is in Kaal amsa.Bhukti nath sani is Retrograde ,it is with Saturn. Bhuktinath Saturn is in Ghora amsa. Jupitor is Pratyantra nath is malefic from Lagna and is in Vanmsa Kshya Amsa. Is it suggestive that D60 Amsa lord manifests its attributes in significant way irrespective to soul status.Prima faci some past life misdeed surfaces into this event, is the only possible conclusion. Annual TP chart and daily TP charts also are not pinpointing the event.May be i need more understanding on this technique. Will the gurus like to dwell upon and concentrate how the mystery of unknown be gauged prior to occurance of EVENT,and jyotish attains a status of useful science apart from being a acedamic subject. Although it is sad but can gurus throw light why this event happened. Hari om tatsat. Jyotish is mainly to forewarn ,may be destiny unalterable but none could foresee this important event in the life of Sankaracharya. Or may be out of humility did not mention so. Every Indian is bound to be shocked to hear the news about allegations on His holiness Sri Jayendra Saraswati . No body to my mind predicted about such a reputation damaging possibility .He is in custody with effect from Nov 12( the`Black Diwali day ) to 26 Nov at Vellore prison. Natural question arises, how a person who is held in high esteem and is embodiment of divine Guna by conduct and traditional samskara; revered by millions of Hindus has to suffer detention on distant and rarest possibility of involvement in a heinous crime like Murder. His horoscope has been highly studied by savants and masters alike. One hopes charges are not only proved baseless but ordeal ends as early as possible. Amavasya has brought downfall of reputation to institution of Sanyasa, Loss of reputation is equivalent to death in terms of NITI Shastra. DOB 18 july 1935 at Irul Nekki 10 N 42 79E 26 19 PM as this Data is used in crux of vedic astrology. Sukra dasa – sani Bhukti and Guru pratayantara started on 21 th oct 2004. Although Mahadasa nath is Yogkarka from both the lagna and moon it is in Kaal amsa.Bhukti nath sani is Retrograde ,it is with Saturn. Bhuktinath Saturn is in Ghora amsa. Jupitor is Pratyantra nath is malefic from Lagna and is in Vanmsa Kshya Amsa. Is it suggestive that D60 Amsa lord manifests its attributes in significant way irrespective to soul status. Annual TP chart and daily TP charts also are not pinpointing the event. Will the gurus like to dwell upon and concentrate how the mystery of unknown be gauged prior to occurance of EVENT,and jyotish attains a status of useful science apart from being a acedamic subject. Hari om tatsat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Dear R. C. Srivastava, It, indeed, is a black day not only for Hindus but the government of the day who thought it fit to arrest H.H.Jayendra Saraswati on Dhanateras Day while performing Puja. It does not take a very intelligent person to understand the machinations working behind this. The police say that they were looking for him in Bangalore. This, when Kamakoti website had given his specific program well in advance and that, precisely, is where he was when arrested. This is what the Supreme court said about arrests in case of Murasoli Maran whom too the Tamil Nadu C.M. Jayalalita had arrested in night. "The police personnel effecting the arrest should inform a relative, or friend or a person interested in his welfare of the arrest and place of custody. The Court has also frowned on arrests being made at unearthly hours and transgressing the fundamentals of fair play and natural justice." The Law commission has made the following recommendations about arrests and these are accepted by the Government. " The National Police Commission, comprising the former Cabinet Secretary and the Governor of West Bengal, Dharam Vira, as the chairperson, Mr C. V. Narasimhan, former of Central Bureau of Investigation, as the secretary, and distinguished persons from various walks of life as members, had remarked that the arsenal of powers of arrest, search, seizure, institution of criminal cases and so on enjoyed by the police afforded a vast scope for misconduct by police personnel of different ranks causing harm and harassment to citizens. It laid down the following very stringent criteria for making arrests during investigation of a cognisable case: *The case should involve a grave offence like murder, dacoity, robbery or rape, making an arrest necessary to restrain the accused and infuse confidence among terror-stricken victims; *There should be a reasonable presumption that the accused is likely to abscond and evade the processes of law, or given to violent behaviour, or is likely to commit further offences. *The accused should be a habitual offender and it is essential to take him into custody so that he is not free to commit more, or similar, offences. The report of the Commission had been accepted by the Government which had circulated to the State Governments and police forces all over the country a Code of Conduct to which they were required to adhere by way of pledging their allegiance to the Constitution and their sacred commitment to human rights and dignity." Since none of this applies, the element of conspiracy to defame the Acharya and Hindus at large to appease certain politicians is obvious. Note Rahu in 12th and its action becomes clear. In so far as forewarning the Acharya by Jyotishis is concerned, I am of the firm view that being the authority on Vedas and Vedangas he knew about the events in advance. The Acharya has great knowledge of astrology himself. Like a true Yogi, he , in his wisdom perhaps decided to undergo what is to happen. Having said that , if we look at the chart as a matter of academic interest, the fact of Bandhana caused by Saturn and Moon in 2nd and Rahu in 12th is apparent. Lagna is in Papakartari. Dasha operating is of 6th Lord Mercury afflicted by Ketu and occupying the 6th house (Note that Mercury gets Kendradhipati dosha in Navamsha and is Marakesh there). Antar dasha is of Saturn who is Marakesh by virtue of being Lagna Lord and capable of activating Rahu results who is the other planet giving papakartari to Lagna. Mars the 11th lord gives Pratyantar and I think the Prana/sukshma dasha would be Moon who is Marakesh. In Transit Saturn is aspecting Lagna and Jupiter the 12th and 3rd Lord is in 9th. The event was triggered when Saturn turned retrograde. Police are telling that they decided he was the main accused on 9th of this month as per T.V. News. It is interesting to note that Transit Saturn is in 6/8 position to Natal Saturn and Transit Guru is in 2/12 Position to Natal Jupiter. Moon is lacking Paksha Bala and SUN, Mars and Moon are all afflicted by Ketu in Transit as well as trining natal Lagna. Yet Jupiter aspecting Lagna and Saturn aspecting it will make him emerge stronger. Of course this is my view and others more learned than me might hold a different view. Chandrashekhar. R.C.Srivastava wrote: Dear list, Jyotish is mainly to forewarn ,may be destiny unalterable but none could foresee this important event in the life of Sankaracharya. Or may be out of humility did not mention so. Every Indian is bound to be shocked to hear the news about allegations on His holiness Sri Jayendra Saraswati . No body to my mind predicted about such a reputation damaging possibility .He is in custody with effect from Nov 12( the`Black Diwali day ) to 26 Nov at Vellore prison. Natural question arises, how a person who is held in high esteem and is embodiment of divine Guna by conduct and traditional samskara; revered by millions of Hindus has to suffer detention on distant and rarest possibility of involvement in a heinous crime like Murder. His horoscope has been highly studied by savants and masters alike. One hopes charges are not only proved baseless but ordeal ends as early as possible. Amavasya has brought downfall of reputation to institution of Sanyasa, Loss of reputation is equivalent to death in terms of NITI Shastra. DOB 18 july 1935 at Irul Nekki 10 N 42 79E 26 19 PM as this Data is used in crux of vedic astrology. Sukra dasa – sani Bhukti and Guru pratayantara started on 21 th oct 2004. Although Mahadasa nath is Yogkarka from both the lagna and moon it is in Kaal amsa.Bhukti nath sani is Retrograde ,it is with Saturn. Bhuktinath Saturn is in Ghora amsa. Jupitor is Pratyantra nath is malefic from Lagna and is in Vanmsa Kshya Amsa. Is it suggestive that D60 Amsa lord manifests its attributes in significant way irrespective to soul status.Prima faci some past life misdeed surfaces into this event, is the only possible conclusion. Annual TP chart and daily TP charts also are not pinpointing the event.May be i need more understanding on this technique. Will the gurus like to dwell upon and concentrate how the mystery of unknown be gauged prior to occurance of EVENT,and jyotish attains a status of useful science apart from being a acedamic subject. Although it is sad but can gurus throw light why this event happened. Hari om tatsat. Jyotish is mainly to forewarn ,may be destiny unalterable but none could foresee this important event in the life of Sankaracharya. Or may be out of humility did not mention so. Every Indian is bound to be shocked to hear the news about allegations on His holiness Sri Jayendra Saraswati . No body to my mind predicted about such a reputation damaging possibility .He is in custody with effect from Nov 12( the`Black Diwali day ) to 26 Nov at Vellore prison. Natural question arises, how a person who is held in high esteem and is embodiment of divine Guna by conduct and traditional samskara; revered by millions of Hindus has to suffer detention on distant and rarest possibility of involvement in a heinous crime like Murder. His horoscope has been highly studied by savants and masters alike. One hopes charges are not only proved baseless but ordeal ends as early as possible. Amavasya has brought downfall of reputation to institution of Sanyasa, Loss of reputation is equivalent to death in terms of NITI Shastra. DOB 18 july 1935 at Irul Nekki 10 N 42 79E 26 19 PM as this Data is used in crux of vedic astrology. Sukra dasa – sani Bhukti and Guru pratayantara started on 21 th oct 2004. Although Mahadasa nath is Yogkarka from both the lagna and moon it is in Kaal amsa.Bhukti nath sani is Retrograde ,it is with Saturn. Bhuktinath Saturn is in Ghora amsa. Jupitor is Pratyantra nath is malefic from Lagna and is in Vanmsa Kshya Amsa. Is it suggestive that D60 Amsa lord manifests its attributes in significant way irrespective to soul status. Annual TP chart and daily TP charts also are not pinpointing the event. Will the gurus like to dwell upon and concentrate how the mystery of unknown be gauged prior to occurance of EVENT,and jyotish attains a status of useful science apart from being a acedamic subject. Hari om tatsat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Dear all, I'm no Guru, but dont the transits show some of the problems of the Sankaracharya? Natal Sun is at 2 degrees Cancer, and transiting Saturn is stationary at 3 degrees Cancer. Not only that, it is beginning to retrograde, so it will actually slowly pass back over the natal Sun. It will be very close to his natal Sun for the next few weeks, not days. So I'm guessing his troubles will last at least until then. Not only that, notice that Sun is afflicted/conjunct Saturn in Shastyamsa also. I'm no expert, but doesnt this show some past life Karma that needs to be repaid? Additionally, Saturn will stop again in Gemini and then come back over his Sun one more time, sometime next year. Again, the reason I note this is that I had the exact same combination happen to me last year and early this year - Saturn going back and forth over my natal Sun. It was a time of extreme hardship - relentless pressure - used to get only 2-4 hours of sleep, every day, day after day for many months. Do others have similar experiences too with transiting Saturn going over natal Sun? Sundeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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