KANCHI ACHARYA'S CHART.....Darker Picture with HP Theory

[Guest guest]

Dear Vatsa,

Does HP theory totally ignore aspect of Jupiter? Does occupation of a

Bhava by the Bhavesh receiving aspect of Jupiter also has no value? I

am asking this, since to my understanding , per Vedic Astrology that is

normally followed, exact reverse would be the case.

Chandrashekhar.

nameisego wrote:

Dear Friends,

There is a saying in Gujarati which means,

12th house Rahu either puts the jathaka in fetters (Hancuffs) or Hangs

him.

This combination is in chart of Yassar Arafat (Vrishabha Lagna) chart

He spent last years of his life in imprisonment confined to a house in

Palestine.

2nd chart is of Sri Sankaracharya J.S

Much against the sentimental postings posted by all of you speaking in

favour

of Sri Sankaracharya, Undersigned begs to differ from you all,

simply because

the analysis of his chart by HP Theory tells a different story.

This is the story of uncontrolled Mercury placed with ketu in KL chart.

His chart as seen from KL lagna with R1 position, will be as under.

DOB : 18th July 1935

TOB : 7.00 PM

79E26

10N42

Dhanur....Rahu (Kaal Lagna)Sake, Guke.

Kumbha....Moon, Sat ®

Mithunam..Ketu, Budha, SaRa, GuRa.

Kataka....Surya

Simha.....Sukra

Tula......Kuja, Guru

Dasa at birth : Kuja

Present Dasa Bhukti....Budha-Sani-Ketu

Analysis :

R1 POSITION or KAALA LAGNA

He is running 5th pratyari dasa of Budha who is associated with Ketu,

SaRa and GuRa are in 7th from KL.

In KL, Budha becomes Badhakadhipati and is occupying Badhakasthanam.

Asociation of Budha with very powerful Rahus of Sani and Guru along

with Lunar Ketu is one of the most unbecoming aspect of this horoscope.

Mercury with such an influence in his dasa period would make a person

whimsical, resorting

to exteremes,Lying, cheating, fraud and make him perform Dushkarma .

It would make him very ambitious.

If in trade/finances, such a combination would make a person resort to

illegal

and Unethical ways and means.Association of Mercury with Ketu/Rahu

would give a

person association with dushkarmis like Robbers, cheats, Murderers etc.

such Mercury would make the person Buddhi Bhrasta.

Mercury in 6th from Natural Lagna with ketu would give him diseases

connected with ductless glands(Hormone secreting), hence he would

suffer from Metal tension,

and diseases of pancreas, stomach, heart etc.

R10 POSITION

If you take up this chart with R10 position BRL, to check his Karma

and Bhagya ,

It makes the picture much clearer.

Both the Karmadhipati Guru and Bhagyadhipati Kuja are in 8th position.

Mercury again becomes badhakadhipati in this position. Since 10th lord

is also Rajyasthanadhipati, government would fail to protect him due

to karmabadha/karmapida.

12th house is occupied by Vakri Sani and Chandra.Sani being in 9th

from Dasanatha would bring dihonour/padachyuti from high post,

destruction of Dharma etc in its bhukti if dasa is a bad dasa.

In this case all these things indicate,

THAT THE JATHAKA WOULD BE DISHONOURED, HE WILL HAVE TO SUFFER

IMPRISONMENT/PUNISHMENT

AND BEFORE SANI BHUKTI ENDS, HE WOULD HAVE TO ABDICATE HIS POSITION.

MORE WORSE THAN THIS IS, HE HAS A GANDAM TO HIS LIFE .

HE MAY SUFFER SOME BODY HARM WHICH MAY BE SELF INFLICTED ALSO.

God , please show kindly Light.

Tamasoma Jyotir gamaya.

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Respected Chandrashekhar ji,

If you take up Budhadasa as focal point, Guru becomes lord of the 7th

which is a badhaka place. As owner of that house, Guru is placed in

5th, which is house of thinking. Distortion/destruction of a bhava is

Guru's forte.(Guru is a double edged sword)

 

Its power is what might have spoiled the auspiciousnedd of 5th bhava!!

The rot must have set in right when Budha dasa started.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel>

wrote:

> Dear Vatsa,

> Does HP theory totally ignore aspect of Jupiter? Does occupation of a

> Bhava by the Bhavesh receiving aspect of Jupiter also has no value?

I am

> asking this, since to my understanding , per Vedic Astrology that is

> normally followed, exact reverse would be the case.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> nameisego wrote:

>

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> > There is a saying in Gujarati which means,

> > 12th house Rahu either puts the jathaka in fetters (Hancuffs) or Hangs

> > him.

> > This combination is in chart of Yassar Arafat (Vrishabha Lagna) chart

> > He spent last years of his life in imprisonment confined to a house in

> > Palestine.

> > 2nd chart is

 

 

 

 

 

 

of Sri Sankaracharya J.S

> >

> >

> > Much against the sentimental postings posted by all of you speaking in

> > favour

> > of Sri Sankaracharya, Undersigned begs to differ from you all,

> > simply because

> > the analysis of his chart by HP Theory tells a different story.

> > This is the story of uncontrolled Mercury placed with ketu in KL

chart.

> > His chart as seen from KL lagna with R1 position, will be as under.

> >

> > DOB : 18th July 1935

> > TOB : 7.00 PM

> > 79E26

> > 10N42

> >

> > Dhanur....Rahu (Kaal Lagna)Sake, Guke.

> > Kumbha....Moon, Sat ®

> > Mithunam..Ketu, Budha, SaRa, GuRa.

> > Kataka....Surya

> > Simha.....Sukra

> > Tula......Kuja, Guru

> > Dasa at birth : Kuja

> > Present Dasa Bhukti....Budha-Sani-Ketu

> >

> >

> > Analysis :

> >

> > R1 POSITION or KAALA LAGNA

> >

> > He is running 5th pratyari dasa of Budha who is associated with Ketu,

> > SaRa and GuRa are in 7th from KL.

> >

> > In KL, Budha becomes Badhakadhipati and is occupying Badhakasthanam.

> > Asociation of Budha with very powerful Rahus of Sani and Guru along

> > with Lunar Ketu is one of the most unbecoming aspect of this

horoscope.

> >

> > Mercury with such an influence in his dasa period would make a person

> > whimsical, resorting

> > to exteremes,Lying, cheating, fraud and make him perform Dushkarma .

> > It would make him very ambitious.

> >

> > If in trade/finances, such a combination would make a person resort to

> > illegal

> > and Unethical ways and means.Association of Mercury with Ketu/Rahu

> > would give a

> > person association with dushkarmis like Robbers, cheats, Murderers

etc.

> >

> > such Mercury would make the person Buddhi Bhrasta.

> > Mercury in 6th from Natural Lagna with ketu would give him diseases

> > connected with ductless glands(Hormone secreting), hence he would

> > suffer from Metal tension,

> > and diseases of pancreas, stomach, heart etc.

> >

> >

> > R10 POSITION

> >

> > If you take up this chart with R10 position BRL, to check his Karma

> > and Bhagya ,

> > It makes the picture much clearer.

> >

> > Both the Karmadhipati Guru and Bhagyadhipati Kuja are in 8th position.

> > Mercury again becomes badhakadhipati in this position. Since 10th lord

> > is also Rajyasthanadhipati, government would fail to protect him due

> > to karmabadha/karmapida.

> >

> > 12th house is occupied by Vakri Sani and Chandra.Sani being in 9th

> > from Dasanatha would bring dihonour/padachyuti from high post,

> > destruction of Dharma etc in its bhukti if dasa is a bad dasa.

> >

> >

> > In this case all these things indicate,

> >

> > THAT THE JATHAKA WOULD BE DISHONOURED, HE WILL HAVE TO SUFFER

> > IMPRISONMENT/PUNISHMENT

> > AND BEFORE SANI BHUKTI ENDS, HE WOULD HAVE TO ABDICATE HIS POSITION.

> > MORE WORSE THAN THIS IS, HE HAS A GANDAM TO HIS LIFE .

> > HE MAY SUFFER SOME BODY HARM WHICH MAY BE SELF INFLICTED ALSO.

> >

> > God , please show kindly Light.

> > Tamasoma Jyotir gamaya.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

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[Guest guest]

Dear All,

 

I think such traditional aphoristic pronouncements are always intended

to be explored in context and/or to serve as mnemonic devices - to be

layered atop other placements and significations. To take such dicta

at face value seems quite absurd - and also perpetuates common

apprehensions and stereotypes about Jyotisha.

 

Sarva mangalam,

 

J.I. Abbot

 

vedic astrology, "nameisego" <nameisego>

wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

> There is a saying in Gujarati which means,

> 12th house Rahu either puts the jathaka in fetters (Hancuffs) or Hangs

> him.

> This combination is in chart of Yassar Arafat (Vrishabha Lagna) chart

> He spent last years of his life in imprisonment confined to a house in

> Palestine.

> 2nd chart is of Sri Sankaracharya J.S

>

>

> Much against the sentimental postings posted by all of you speaking in

> favour

> of Sri Sankaracharya, Undersigned begs to differ from you all,

> simply because

> the analysis of his chart by HP Theory tells a different story.

> This is the story of uncontrolled Mercury placed with ketu in KL chart.

> His chart as seen from KL lagna with R1 position, will be as under.

>

> DOB : 18th July 1935

> TOB : 7.00 PM

> 79E26

> 10N42

>

> Dhanur....Rahu (Kaal Lagna)Sake, Guke.

> Kumbha....Moon, Sat ®

> Mithunam..Ketu, Budha, SaRa, GuRa.

> Kataka....Surya

> Simha.....Sukra

> Tula......Kuja, Guru

> Dasa at birth : Kuja

> Present Dasa Bhukti....Budha-Sani-Ketu

>

>

> Analysis :

>

> R1 POSITION or KAALA LAGNA

>

> He is running 5th pratyari dasa of Budha who is associated with Ketu,

> SaRa and GuRa are in 7th from KL.

>

> In KL, Budha becomes Badhakadhipati and is occupying Badhakasthanam.

> Asociation of Budha with very powerful Rahus of Sani and Guru along

> with Lunar Ketu is one of the most unbecoming aspect of this horoscope.

>

> Mercury with such an influence in his dasa period would make a person

> whimsical, resorting

> to exteremes,Lying, cheating, fraud and make him perform Dushkarma .

> It would make him very ambitious.

>

> If in trade/finances, such a combination would make a person resort to

> illegal

> and Unethical ways and means.Association of Mercury with Ketu/Rahu

> would give a

> person association with dushkarmis like Robbers, cheats, Murderers etc.

>

> such Mercury would make the person Buddhi Bhrasta.

> Mercury in 6th from Natural Lagna with ketu would give him diseases

> connected with ductless glands(Hormone secreting), hence he would

> suffer from Metal tension,

> and diseases of pancreas, stomach, heart etc.

>

>

> R10 POSITION

>

> If you take up this chart with R10 position BRL, to check his Karma

> and Bhagya ,

> It makes the picture much clearer.

>

> Both the Karmadhipati Guru and Bhagyadhipati Kuja are in 8th position.

> Mercury again becomes badhakadhipati in this position. Since 10th lord

> is also Rajyasthanadhipati, government would fail to protect him due

> to karmabadha/karmapida.

>

> 12th house is occupied by Vakri Sani and Chandra.Sani being in 9th

> from Dasanatha would bring dihonour/padachyuti from high post,

> destruction of Dharma etc in its bhukti if dasa is a bad dasa.

>

>

> In this case all these things indicate,

>

> THAT THE JATHAKA WOULD BE DISHONOURED, HE WILL HAVE TO SUFFER

> IMPRISONMENT/PUNISHMENT

> AND BEFORE SANI BHUKTI ENDS, HE WOULD HAVE TO ABDICATE HIS POSITION.

> MORE WORSE THAN THIS IS, HE HAS A GANDAM TO HIS LIFE .

> HE MAY SUFFER SOME BODY HARM WHICH MAY BE SELF INFLICTED ALSO.

>

> God , please show kindly Light.

> Tamasoma Jyotir gamaya.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

[Guest guest]

i wonder one thing.

sankaracharya would have done so many pujas/spiritual

practices in his life.So how come he did not get

freedom from bonds of karma. Also with so many time

devoted to relgious practices like mantra etc should

have changed his destiny to better. If we belive that

he is getting whta is in his chart what is the use of

spiritual practices and remedies.

 

--- Korengai <jiabbot-lists wrote:

 

>

> Dear All,

>

> I think such traditional aphoristic pronouncements

> are always intended

> to be explored in context and/or to serve as

> mnemonic devices - to be

> layered atop other placements and significations.

> To take such dicta

> at face value seems quite absurd - and also

> perpetuates common

> apprehensions and stereotypes about Jyotisha.

>

> Sarva mangalam,

>

> J.I. Abbot

>

> vedic astrology, "nameisego"

> <nameisego>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> > There is a saying in Gujarati which means,

> > 12th house Rahu either puts the jathaka in fetters

> (Hancuffs) or Hangs

> > him.

> > This combination is in chart of Yassar Arafat

> (Vrishabha Lagna) chart

> > He spent last years of his life in imprisonment

> confined to a house in

> > Palestine.

> > 2nd chart is of Sri Sankaracharya J.S

> >

> >

> > Much against the sentimental postings posted by

> all of you speaking in

> > favour

> > of Sri Sankaracharya, Undersigned begs to differ

> from you all,

> > simply because

> > the analysis of his chart by HP Theory tells a

> different story.

> > This is the story of uncontrolled Mercury placed

> with ketu in KL chart.

> > His chart as seen from KL lagna with R1 position,

> will be as under.

> >

> > DOB : 18th July 1935

> > TOB : 7.00 PM

> > 79E26

> > 10N42

> >

> > Dhanur....Rahu (Kaal Lagna)Sake, Guke.

> > Kumbha....Moon, Sat ®

> > Mithunam..Ketu, Budha, SaRa, GuRa.

> > Kataka....Surya

> > Simha.....Sukra

> > Tula......Kuja, Guru

> > Dasa at birth : Kuja

> > Present Dasa Bhukti....Budha-Sani-Ketu

> >

> >

> > Analysis :

> >

> > R1 POSITION or KAALA LAGNA

> >

> > He is running 5th pratyari dasa of Budha who is

> associated with Ketu,

> > SaRa and GuRa are in 7th from KL.

> >

> > In KL, Budha becomes Badhakadhipati and is

> occupying Badhakasthanam.

> > Asociation of Budha with very powerful Rahus of

> Sani and Guru along

> > with Lunar Ketu is one of the most unbecoming

> aspect of this horoscope.

> >

> > Mercury with such an influence in his dasa period

> would make a person

> > whimsical, resorting

> > to exteremes,Lying, cheating, fraud and make him

> perform Dushkarma .

> > It would make him very ambitious.

> >

> > If in trade/finances, such a combination would

> make a person resort to

> > illegal

> > and Unethical ways and means.Association of

> Mercury with Ketu/Rahu

> > would give a

> > person association with dushkarmis like Robbers,

> cheats, Murderers etc.

> >

> > such Mercury would make the person Buddhi Bhrasta.

> > Mercury in 6th from Natural Lagna with ketu would

> give him diseases

> > connected with ductless glands(Hormone secreting),

> hence he would

> > suffer from Metal tension,

> > and diseases of pancreas, stomach, heart etc.

> >

> >

> > R10 POSITION

> >

> > If you take up this chart with R10 position BRL,

> to check his Karma

> > and Bhagya ,

> > It makes the picture much clearer.

> >

> > Both the Karmadhipati Guru and Bhagyadhipati Kuja

> are in 8th position.

> > Mercury again becomes badhakadhipati in this

> position. Since 10th lord

> > is also Rajyasthanadhipati, government would fail

> to protect him due

> > to karmabadha/karmapida.

> >

> > 12th house is occupied by Vakri Sani and

> Chandra.Sani being in 9th

> > from Dasanatha would bring dihonour/padachyuti

> from high post,

> > destruction of Dharma etc in its bhukti if dasa is

> a bad dasa.

> >

> >

> > In this case all these things indicate,

> >

> > THAT THE JATHAKA WOULD BE DISHONOURED, HE WILL

> HAVE TO SUFFER

> > IMPRISONMENT/PUNISHMENT

> > AND BEFORE SANI BHUKTI ENDS, HE WOULD HAVE TO

> ABDICATE HIS POSITION.

> > MORE WORSE THAN THIS IS, HE HAS A GANDAM TO HIS

> LIFE .

> > HE MAY SUFFER SOME BODY HARM WHICH MAY BE SELF

> INFLICTED ALSO.

> >

> > God , please show kindly Light.

> > Tamasoma Jyotir gamaya.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">|| Jaya Jagannath ||

It is not right to correlate the troubles in this world with the amount of

spiritual merit of person. The history is full of incidents where the bhaktas

were tested time and again. Some of the examples

are given below:

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">

Arial">The parents of Krsna Vasudev

and Devaki were imprisoned by Kansa.

10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Prahlaad was put to

severe tests by his father.

10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Mirabaai had to drink

poison.

Arial">Even Lord Sri Rama had to suffer 14 years

of Vanavaas.

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">There are numerous such examples…

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">One has to redeem the bonds of the past

karma in many ways. Some of them can be imprisonment too.

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Best Wishes

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Sarajit

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">

font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Jatin Prakash

[jatinprakash ]

Monday, November 15, 2004

2:36 PM

To:

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Re: [vedic astrology] Re:

KANCHI ACHARYA'S CHART.....Darker Picture with HP Theory

12.0pt">

10.0pt">i wonder one thing.

sankaracharya would have done so many

pujas/spiritual

practices in his life.So how come he did not get

freedom from bonds of karma. Also with so many

time

devoted to relgious practices like mantra etc

should

have changed his destiny to better. If we belive

that

he is getting whta is in his chart what is the use

of

spiritual practices and remedies.

--- Korengai <jiabbot-lists (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net>

wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> I think such traditional aphoristic

pronouncements

> are always intended

> to be explored in context and/or to serve as

> mnemonic devices - to be

> layered atop other placements and

significations.

> To take such dicta

> at face value seems quite absurd - and also

> perpetuates common

> apprehensions and stereotypes about Jyotisha.

>

> Sarva mangalam,

>

> J.I. Abbot

>

> vedic astrology,

"nameisego"

> <nameisego>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> > There is a saying in Gujarati which

means,

> > 12th house Rahu either puts the jathaka

in fetters

> (Hancuffs) or Hangs

> > him.

> > This combination is in chart of Yassar

Arafat

> (Vrishabha Lagna) chart

> > He spent last years of his life in

imprisonment

> confined to a house in

> > Palestine.

> > 2nd chart is of Sri Sankaracharya J.S

> >

> >

> > Much against the sentimental postings

posted by

> all of you speaking in

> > favour

> > of Sri Sankaracharya, Undersigned begs

to differ

> from you all,

> > simply because

> > the analysis of his chart by HP Theory

tells a

> different story.

> > This is the story of uncontrolled

Mercury placed

> with ketu in KL chart.

> > His chart as seen from KL lagna with R1

position,

> will be as under.

> >

> > DOB : 18th July 1935

> > TOB : 7.00 PM

> > 79E26

> > 10N42

> >

> > Dhanur....Rahu (Kaal Lagna)Sake, Guke.

> > Kumbha....Moon, Sat ®

> > Mithunam..Ketu, Budha, SaRa, GuRa.

> > Kataka....Surya

> > Simha.....Sukra

> > Tula......Kuja,

Guru

> > Dasa at birth : Kuja

> > Present Dasa Bhukti....Budha-Sani-Ketu

> >

> >

> > Analysis :

> >

> > R1 POSITION or KAALA LAGNA

> >

> > He is running 5th pratyari dasa of Budha

who is

> associated with Ketu,

> > SaRa and GuRa are in 7th from KL.

> >

> > In KL, Budha becomes Badhakadhipati and

is

> occupying Badhakasthanam.

> > Asociation of Budha with very powerful

Rahus of

> Sani and Guru along

> > with Lunar Ketu is one of the most

unbecoming

> aspect of this horoscope.

> >

> > Mercury with such an influence in his

dasa period

> would make a person

> > whimsical, resorting

> > to exteremes,Lying, cheating, fraud and

make him

> perform Dushkarma .

> > It would make him very ambitious.

> >

> > If in trade/finances, such a combination

would

> make a person resort to

> > illegal

> > and Unethical ways and means.Association

of

> Mercury with Ketu/Rahu

> > would give a

> > person association with dushkarmis like

Robbers,

> cheats, Murderers etc.

> >

> > such Mercury would make the person

Buddhi Bhrasta.

> > Mercury in 6th from Natural Lagna with

ketu would

> give him diseases

> > connected with ductless glands(Hormone

secreting),

> hence he would

> > suffer from Metal tension,

> > and diseases of pancreas, stomach, heart

etc.

> >

> >

> > R10 POSITION

> >

> > If you take up this chart with R10

position BRL,

> to check his Karma

> > and Bhagya ,

> > It makes the picture much clearer.

> >

> > Both the Karmadhipati Guru and

Bhagyadhipati Kuja

> are in 8th position.

> > Mercury again becomes badhakadhipati in

this

> position. Since 10th lord

> > is also Rajyasthanadhipati, government

would fail

> to protect him due

> > to karmabadha/karmapida.

> >

> > 12th house is occupied by Vakri Sani and

> Chandra.Sani being in 9th

> > from Dasanatha would bring

dihonour/padachyuti

> from high post,

> > destruction of Dharma etc in its bhukti

if dasa is

> a bad dasa.

> >

> >

> > In this case all these things indicate,

> >

> > THAT THE JATHAKA WOULD BE DISHONOURED,

HE WILL

> HAVE TO SUFFER

> > IMPRISONMENT/PUNISHMENT

> > AND BEFORE SANI BHUKTI ENDS, HE WOULD

HAVE TO

> ABDICATE HIS POSITION.

> > MORE WORSE THAN THIS IS, HE HAS A GANDAM

TO HIS

> LIFE .

> > HE MAY SUFFER SOME BODY HARM WHICH MAY

BE SELF

> INFLICTED ALSO.

> >

> > God , please show kindly Light.

> > Tamasoma Jyotir gamaya.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

>

 

 

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">|| Jaya Jagannath ||

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Dear Anna,

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Needless to say that everything happens

due to the wishes of the almighty god. Of-course we end up believing that there

is some invisible force behind the curtain, who is directing the whole play.

How, much the actors can do, when the director’s wish is supreme. The

only thing the actors can do is to realize that they are being directed.

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Thus the best thing we can do is to be

aware of the invisible hands and surrender to his wishes and then only can we

break away from the shackles of karma, be it positive or negative.

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RE: [vedic astrology] Re:

KANCHI ACHARYA'S CHART.....Darker Picture with HP Theory

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12.0pt">Dear Sarajit,

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12.0pt">No doubt, you are perfectly right. But that questions remedies in

general- we are over and over again provenly left with the trust in God,

only.

12.0pt">What are spiritual merits anyway, if not trust in God, only

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12.0pt">From whichever point I start I always come there- let God decide- only

He knows all the merits and true reasons for troubles, only He can punish

and reward...I beleive that God does know our merits and honesty of our

hearts...

12.0pt">we are not supposed to judge either.

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Longing for knowledge and self-betterment are quite another issues,

though

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12.0pt">Blessings,

12.0pt">Anna

Sarajit Poddar

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">|| Jaya Jagannath ||

It is not right to correlate the troubles in this world with the amount of

spiritual merit of person. The history is full of incidents where the bhaktas

were tested time and again. Some of the examples are given below:

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Arial">The parents of Krsna Vasudev and Devaki were imprisoned by Kansa.

Arial">Prahlaad was put to severe tests by his father.

Arial">Mirabaai had to drink poison.

Arial">Even Lord Sri Rama had to suffer 14 years of Vanavaas.

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">There are numerous such examples

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">One has to redeem the bonds of the past

karma in many ways. Some of them can be imprisonment too.

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Best Wishes

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Sarajit

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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Jatin Prakash

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Monday, November 15, 2004

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Re: [vedic astrology] Re:

KANCHI ACHARYA'S CHART.....Darker Picture with HP Theory

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10.0pt">i wonder one thing.

sankaracharya would have done so many

pujas/spiritual

practices in his life.So how come he did not get

freedom from bonds of karma. Also with so many

time

devoted to relgious practices like mantra etc

should

have changed his destiny to better. If we belive

that

he is getting whta is in his chart what is the use

of

spiritual practices and remedies.

--- Korengai <jiabbot-lists (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net>

wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> I think such traditional aphoristic

pronouncements

> are always intended

> to be explored in context and/or to serve as

> mnemonic devices - to be

> layered atop other placements and

significations.

> To take such dicta

> at face value seems quite absurd - and also

> perpetuates common

> apprehensions and stereotypes about Jyotisha.

>

> Sarva mangalam,

>

> J.I. Abbot

>

> vedic astrology,

"nameisego"

> <nameisego>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> > There is a saying in Gujarati which

means,

> > 12th house Rahu either puts the jathaka

in fetters

> (Hancuffs) or Hangs

> > him.

> > This combination is in chart of Yassar

Arafat

> (Vrishabha

Lagna) chart

> > He spent last years of his life in

imprisonment

> confined to a house in

> > Palestine.

> > 2nd chart is of Sri Sankaracharya J.S

> >

> >

> > Much against the sentimental postings

posted by

> all of you speaking in

> > favour

> > of Sri Sankaracharya, Undersigned begs

to differ

> from you all,

> > simply because

> > the analysis of his chart by HP Theory

tells a

> different story.

> > This is the story of uncontrolled

Mercury placed

> with ketu in KL chart.

> > His chart as seen from KL lagna with R1

position,

> will be as under.

> >

> > DOB : 18th July 1935

> > TOB : 7.00 PM

> > 79E26

> > 10N42

> >

> > Dhanur....Rahu (Kaal Lagna)Sake, Guke.

> > Kumbha....Moon, Sat ®

> > Mithunam..Ketu, Budha, SaRa, GuRa.

> > Kataka....Surya

> > Simha.....Sukra

> > Tula......Kuja,

Guru

> > Dasa at birth : Kuja

> > Present Dasa Bhukti....Budha-Sani-Ketu

> >

> >

> > Analysis :

> >

> > R1 POSITION or KAALA LAGNA

> >

> > He is running 5th pratyari dasa of Budha

who is

> associated with Ketu,

> > SaRa and GuRa are in 7th from KL.

> >

> > In KL, Budha becomes Badhakadhipati and

is

> occupying Badhakasthanam.

> > Asociation of Budha with very powerful

Rahus of

> Sani and Guru along

> > with Lunar Ketu is one of the most

unbecoming

> aspect of this horoscope.

> >

> > Mercury with such an influence in his

dasa period

> would make a person

> > whimsical, resorting

> > to exteremes,Lying, cheating, fraud and

make him

> perform Dushkarma .

> > It would make him very ambitious.

> >

> > If in trade/finances, such a combination

would

> make a person resort to

> > illegal

> > and Unethical ways and means.Association

of

> Mercury with Ketu/Rahu

> > would give a

> > person association with dushkarmis like

Robbers,

> cheats, Murderers etc.

> >

> > such Mercury would make the person

Buddhi Bhrasta.

> > Mercury in 6th from Natural Lagna with

ketu would

> give him diseases

> > connected with ductless glands(Hormone

secreting),

> hence he would

> > suffer from Metal tension,

> > and diseases of pancreas, stomach, heart

etc.

> >

> >

> > R10 POSITION

> >

> > If you take up this chart with R10

position BRL,

> to check his Karma

> > and Bhagya ,

> > It makes the picture much clearer.

> >

> > Both the Karmadhipati Guru and

Bhagyadhipati Kuja

> are in 8th position.

> > Mercury again becomes badhakadhipati in

this

> position. Since 10th lord

> > is also Rajyasthanadhipati, government

would fail

> to protect

him due

> > to karmabadha/karmapida.

> >

> > 12th house is occupied by Vakri Sani and

> Chandra.Sani being in 9th

> > from Dasanatha would bring

dihonour/padachyuti

> from high post,

> > destruction of Dharma etc in its bhukti

if dasa is

> a bad dasa.

> >

> >

> > In this case all these things indicate,

> >

> > THAT THE JATHAKA WOULD BE DISHONOURED,

HE WILL

> HAVE TO SUFFER

> > IMPRISONMENT/PUNISHMENT

> > AND BEFORE SANI BHUKTI ENDS, HE WOULD

HAVE TO

> ABDICATE HIS POSITION.

> > MORE WORSE THAN THIS IS, HE HAS A GANDAM

TO HIS

> LIFE .

> > HE MAY SUFFER SOME BODY HARM WHICH MAY

BE SELF

> INFLICTED ALSO.

> >

> > God , please show kindly Light.

> > Tamasoma Jyotir gamaya.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

>

 

 

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Hare Rama Krishna

 

Dear Jatin,

 

You aleady got several replies and i hope you'll not mind one more.

 

You spoke about karma. For easier understanding it is broken down

into, Prarabhda, Sanchita, agami...

 

Sanchita is the base on which Prarabhda is what has sprouted. So, in

this life what we are reaping is our Prarabhda. Those who understand

it try to experience it and do not look for any short cuts.

 

It is also said that Sanchita Karma can be dissolved through

spiritual practices i.e., exactly what you have mentioned. i think

you will agree that ultimate goal is to achieve moksha!

 

Though all are spiritual beings, we can guess that we are all at

different levels of spiritual evolution.. when we talk about

Sadhus/Saints etc., we rever their spiritual evolution...not that

they have taken birth without any prarabhda karma. (when we talk

about karma good & bad are relative terms)

 

The tools of astrology are exactly meant for providing guidance in

this area.

 

Hope this helps.

 

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vedic astrology, Jatin Prakash

<jatinprakash> wrote:

> i wonder one thing.

> sankaracharya would have done so many pujas/spiritual

> practices in his life.So how come he did not get

> freedom from bonds of karma. Also with so many time

> devoted to relgious practices like mantra etc should

> have changed his destiny to better. If we belive that

> he is getting whta is in his chart what is the use of

> spiritual practices and remedies.

>

> --- Korengai <jiabbot-lists@s...> wrote:

>

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > I think such traditional aphoristic pronouncements

> > are always intended

> > to be explored in context and/or to serve as

> > mnemonic devices - to be

> > layered atop other placements and significations.

> > To take such dicta

> > at face value seems quite absurd - and also

> > perpetuates common

> > apprehensions and stereotypes about Jyotisha.

> >

> > Sarva mangalam,

> >

> > J.I. Abbot

> >

> > vedic astrology, "nameisego"

> > <nameisego>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Friends,

> > > There is a saying in Gujarati which means,

> > > 12th house Rahu either puts the jathaka in fetters

> > (Hancuffs) or Hangs

> > > him.

> > > This combination is in chart of Yassar Arafat

> > (Vrishabha Lagna) chart

> > > He spent last years of his life in imprisonment

> > confined to a house in

> > > Palestine.

> > > 2nd chart is of Sri Sankaracharya J.S

> > >

> > >

> > > Much against the sentimental postings posted by

> > all of you speaking in

> > > favour

> > > of Sri Sankaracharya, Undersigned begs to differ

> > from you all,

> > > simply because

> > > the analysis of his chart by HP Theory tells a

> > different story.

> > > This is the story of uncontrolled Mercury placed

> > with ketu in KL chart.

> > > His chart as seen from KL lagna with R1 position,

> > will be as under.

> > >

> > > DOB : 18th July 1935

> > > TOB : 7.00 PM

> > > 79E26

> > > 10N42

> > >

> > > Dhanur....Rahu (Kaal Lagna)Sake, Guke.

> > > Kumbha....Moon, Sat ®

> > > Mithunam..Ketu, Budha, SaRa, GuRa.

> > > Kataka....Surya

> > > Simha.....Sukra

> > > Tula......Kuja, Guru

> > > Dasa at birth : Kuja

> > > Present Dasa Bhukti....Budha-Sani-Ketu

> > >

> > >

> > > Analysis :

> > >

> > > R1 POSITION or KAALA LAGNA

> > >

> > > He is running 5th pratyari dasa of Budha who is

> > associated with Ketu,

> > > SaRa and GuRa are in 7th from KL.

> > >

> > > In KL, Budha becomes Badhakadhipati and is

> > occupying Badhakasthanam.

> > > Asociation of Budha with very powerful Rahus of

> > Sani and Guru along

> > > with Lunar Ketu is one of the most unbecoming

> > aspect of this horoscope.

> > >

> > > Mercury with such an influence in his dasa period

> > would make a person

> > > whimsical, resorting

> > > to exteremes,Lying, cheating, fraud and make him

> > perform Dushkarma .

> > > It would make him very ambitious.

> > >

> > > If in trade/finances, such a combination would

> > make a person resort to

> > > illegal

> > > and Unethical ways and means.Association of

> > Mercury with Ketu/Rahu

> > > would give a

> > > person association with dushkarmis like Robbers,

> > cheats, Murderers etc.

> > >

> > > such Mercury would make the person Buddhi Bhrasta.

> > > Mercury in 6th from Natural Lagna with ketu would

> > give him diseases

> > > connected with ductless glands(Hormone secreting),

> > hence he would

> > > suffer from Metal tension,

> > > and diseases of pancreas, stomach, heart etc.

> > >

> > >

> > > R10 POSITION

> > >

> > > If you take up this chart with R10 position BRL,

> > to check his Karma

> > > and Bhagya ,

> > > It makes the picture much clearer.

> > >

> > > Both the Karmadhipati Guru and Bhagyadhipati Kuja

> > are in 8th position.

> > > Mercury again becomes badhakadhipati in this

> > position. Since 10th lord

> > > is also Rajyasthanadhipati, government would fail

> > to protect him due

> > > to karmabadha/karmapida.

> > >

> > > 12th house is occupied by Vakri Sani and

> > Chandra.Sani being in 9th

> > > from Dasanatha would bring dihonour/padachyuti

> > from high post,

> > > destruction of Dharma etc in its bhukti if dasa is

> > a bad dasa.

> > >

> > >

> > > In this case all these things indicate,

> > >

> > > THAT THE JATHAKA WOULD BE DISHONOURED, HE WILL

> > HAVE TO SUFFER

> > > IMPRISONMENT/PUNISHMENT

> > > AND BEFORE SANI BHUKTI ENDS, HE WOULD HAVE TO

> > ABDICATE HIS POSITION.

> > > MORE WORSE THAN THIS IS, HE HAS A GANDAM TO HIS

> > LIFE .

> > > HE MAY SUFFER SOME BODY HARM WHICH MAY BE SELF

> > INFLICTED ALSO.

> > >

> > > God , please show kindly Light.

> > > Tamasoma Jyotir gamaya.

> > >

> > > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Narasimha, Gupta, Viswanatham & others,

 

Namaste. i just wanted to share what i know about kalachakra.

 

You may be aware of the story of how a mango was won by Ganesha as a reward for

having come around the world in quicker time than Subramanya. Ganesha came

around his parents Uma and Siva and took the reward stating that parents are

his world. This gives us the clue of the existance of two zodiacs. For

conveninent sake let us name the two as the zodiac of Ganesha and the other one

as the zodiac of Subramanya. The zodiac of Ganesha begins from the the nakshatra

jyestha(bigger) and the zodiac of Subramanya begins from the nakshatra aswini.

The Ganesha zodiac is anti clockwise(is not Mother in the left side of the

lord) and that of Subramanya is clockwise.

 

The clockwise zodiac has 15 nakshatras and the anti clockwise zodiac has 12

nakshatras. What does the 3 additional nakshatras mean? This is the normal path

which speaks of brhamacharya, grihastashrama, vanaprastha and then sanyasa. The

Ganesha zodiac hints at direct sanyasa.

 

Sage Parasara instructs us to draw both the zodiacs for better understanding. He

calls the Subramanya zodiac as Savya and the Ganesha zodiac as apasavya.

 

Subramanya zodiac/savya chakra:- Aswini, bharani, krittika,

punarvasu.pushya,aslesha, hastam,chitra,swati,moolam

pooradam,uthiradom,poorattadhi,uttaratadhi and revathi.

 

Ganesha zodiac/Apasavya chakra;-

Rohini,mrigasira,aridra,makam,pooram,uttiram,visakam,anusham, ,jyeshtha,

sravana,dhanishta and sathayam.

 

As a first step, one should list all the planets and the ascendant as per the

nakshatra quarter(this was the olden day practice). Then plot the planets as

per the two zodiacs. The Ganesha/apasavya zodiac begins from vrishikha. For

example let us take the nakshatra Rohini 3rd pada. The 1st pada of Rohini falls

in Vrischika, the 2nd falls in tula and the 3rd falls in kanya and the 4th falls

in simha. So as per this understanding rohini 3rd pada falls in kanya.

 

This gives the kalachakra chart. We have taken all the planets(not only the moon).

 

For example let us take the chart of lunar year kartika which commenced on 12th

November 2004 at 19hours and 57 minutes in New Delhi. i am enclosing the

chart(the usual and not kalachakra) in jhd. for ready reference. The

nakshatrawise position of lagna and planets are as follows:-

Lagna;Mrigasira 4th pada Sun & Moon:- Visaka 2nd pada Mars:-Swati 1st pada

Buda:- Jyestha 1st pada Guru;- hastam 2nd pada Venus:-Chitra 1st pada Sani:-

Pushyami 1st pada Rahu:- Aswini 3rd pada Ketu:-Swati 1st pada Mandi:- Pooram

3rd pada Gulika:- Uttaram 2nd pada

 

The kalachakra chart in text form as per the above understanding is as follows:-

Lagna;-Mesha Sun&Moon:-Tula Mars&Ketu:-Dhanu Buda:-Meena Guru&Mandi:-Vrishaba

Sukra&Sani:-Simha Gulika:-Kumbha.

 

As per this chart A9 falls in Tula. Sani the badhaka afflicts Sun(5th

lord),Moon(4th lord) and Guru(9th lord) and A9. Guru is polluted by Mandi. The

9th house is polluted by Mars & Ketu.

 

As per kalachakra dasa scheme the dasa is that of Tula the deha rasi where we

find A9 posited. What can we expect when deha rasi dasa is on?

 

The lord of deha rasi and sign dispositor of A9 venus is afflicted by badhaka

and functional malefic Sani. This can be painful period for A9(Guru).

 

What can a weak and afflicted Sun who is in deha rasi confer? He can cause

confrontations with higher authorities/fear of own enemies/demotions.

 

What can an afflicted Moon who is in deha rasi confer? He can cause mental anguish and distress.

 

The lunar year unveils the stress/humilation and sufferings of religious heads/Gurus.

 

Purificatory acts to Sriyantra and prayers to Mata Sri Tripurasundari will help

redeem the situation.

 

Best wishes.

 

Astrologically yours,

p.s.ramanaryanan.vishwanatham <vishwanatham (AT) rocketmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Hare Rama KrishnaDear Abott,i know a few with this combination, who are neither

Sadhus nor handcuffed ( probably if they are alive, it could still happen to

them..logic applies here!)What goes abegging is whether bail will be granted or

Not? The final judgement on the crime,is a long way to come! i am not saying

that i am capable of predicting on a daily basis, but be rest assured that

character assassination is easily done on some flimsy grounds (read astro

logic!)regardsviswanadhamvedic astrology, "Korengai"

<jiabbot-lists@s...> wrote:> > Dear All, > > I think such traditional

aphoristic pronouncements are always intended> to be explored in context and/or

to serve as mnemonic devices - to be> layered atop other placements

and significations. To take such dicta> at face value seems quite absurd - and

also perpetuates common> apprehensions and stereotypes about Jyotisha.> > Sarva

mangalam,> > J.I. Abbot> > vedic astrology, "nameisego"

<nameisego>> wrote:> > > > Dear Friends,> > There is a saying in Gujarati

which means,> > 12th house Rahu either puts the jathaka in fetters (Hancuffs)

or Hangs> > him. > > This combination is in chart of Yassar Arafat (Vrishabha

Lagna) chart > > He spent last years of his life in imprisonment confined to a

house in> > Palestine.> > 2nd chart is of Sri Sankaracharya J.S> > > > > > Much

against the sentimental postings posted by all of you speaking in> > favour > >

of Sri Sankaracharya, Undersigned begs to differ

from you all,> > simply because > > the analysis of his chart by HP Theory tells

a different story.> > This is the story of uncontrolled Mercury placed with ketu

in KL chart.> > His chart as seen from KL lagna with R1 position, will be as

under.> > > > DOB : 18th July 1935> > TOB : 7.00 PM> > 79E26> > 10N42> > > >

Dhanur....Rahu (Kaal Lagna)Sake, Guke.> > Kumbha....Moon, Sat ®> >

Mithunam..Ketu, Budha, SaRa, GuRa.> > Kataka....Surya> > Simha.....Sukra> >

Tula......Kuja, Guru> > Dasa at birth : Kuja> > Present Dasa

Bhukti....Budha-Sani-Ketu> > > > > > Analysis :> > > > R1 POSITION or KAALA

LAGNA > > > > He is running 5th pratyari dasa of Budha who is associated with

Ketu, > > SaRa and GuRa are in 7th from

KL.> > > > In KL, Budha becomes Badhakadhipati and is occupying Badhakasthanam.

> > Asociation of Budha with very powerful Rahus of Sani and Guru along> > with

Lunar Ketu is one of the most unbecoming aspect of this horoscope.> > > >

Mercury with such an influence in his dasa period would make a person> >

whimsical, resorting > > to exteremes,Lying, cheating, fraud and make him

perform Dushkarma .> > It would make him very ambitious.> > > > If in

trade/finances, such a combination would make a person resort to> > illegal> >

and Unethical ways and means.Association of Mercury with Ketu/Rahu> > would

give a > > person association with dushkarmis like Robbers, cheats, Murderers

etc.> > > > such Mercury would make the person Buddhi Bhrasta.> > Mercury in

6th from Natural Lagna

with ketu would give him diseases > > connected with ductless glands(Hormone

secreting), hence he would> > suffer from Metal tension, > > and diseases of

pancreas, stomach, heart etc.> > > > > > R10 POSITION> > > > If you take up

this chart with R10 position BRL, to check his Karma> > and Bhagya ,> > It

makes the picture much clearer.> > > > Both the Karmadhipati Guru and

Bhagyadhipati Kuja are in 8th position.> > Mercury again becomes badhakadhipati

in this position. Since 10th lord> > is also Rajyasthanadhipati, government

would fail to protect him due> > to karmabadha/karmapida.> > > > 12th house is

occupied by Vakri Sani and Chandra.Sani being in 9th> > from Dasanatha would

bring dihonour/padachyuti from high post, > > destruction of Dharma etc in its

bhukti if dasa is a

bad dasa.> > > > > > In this case all these things indicate, > > > > THAT THE

JATHAKA WOULD BE DISHONOURED, HE WILL HAVE TO SUFFER> > IMPRISONMENT/PUNISHMENT

> > AND BEFORE SANI BHUKTI ENDS, HE WOULD HAVE TO ABDICATE HIS POSITION.> > MORE

WORSE THAN THIS IS, HE HAS A GANDAM TO HIS LIFE . > > HE MAY SUFFER SOME BODY

HARM WHICH MAY BE SELF INFLICTED ALSO.> > > > God , please show kindly Light.>

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|| Jaya

Jagannath ||

It is not right to correlate the troubles in this world with the amount

of

spiritual merit of person. The history is full of incidents where the bhaktas

were tested time and again. Some of the

examples

are given below:

 

The parents of Krsna Vasudev and Devaki were imprisoned by Kansa.

Prahlaad was put to severe tests

by his father.

Mirabaai had to drink poison.

Even Lord Sri Rama had to suffer 14 years of Vanavaas.

 

There are

numerous such examples…

 

One has to

redeem the bonds of the past

karma in many ways. Some of them can be imprisonment too.

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

 

Jatin Prakash

[jatinprakash ]

Monday, November

15, 2004

2:36 PM

To:

vedic astrology

Re:

[vedic astrology] Re:

KANCHI ACHARYA'S CHART.....Darker Picture with HP Theory

 

i wonder one thing.

sankaracharya would have done so many

pujas/spiritual

practices in his life.So how come he did

not get

freedom from bonds of karma. Also with

so many

time

devoted to relgious practices like

mantra etc

should

have changed his destiny to better. If

we belive

that

he is getting whta is in his chart what

is the use

of

spiritual practices and remedies.

--- Korengai

<jiabbot-lists (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net>

wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> I think such traditional aphoristic

pronouncements

> are always intended

> to be explored in context and/or to

serve as

> mnemonic devices - to be

> layered atop other placements and

significations.

> To take such dicta

> at face value seems quite absurd -

and also

> perpetuates common

> apprehensions and stereotypes about

Jyotisha.

>

> Sarva mangalam,

>

> J.I. Abbot

>

> --- In

vedic astrology,

"nameisego"

> <nameisego>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> > There is a saying in Gujarati

which

means,

> > 12th house Rahu either puts

the jathaka

in fetters

> (Hancuffs) or Hangs

> > him.

> > This combination is in chart

of Yassar

Arafat

> (Vrishabha Lagna) chart

> > He spent last years of his

life in

imprisonment

> confined to a house in

> > Palestine.

> > 2nd chart is of Sri

Sankaracharya J.S

> >

> >

> > Much against the sentimental

postings

posted by

> all of you speaking in

> > favour

> > of Sri Sankaracharya,

Undersigned begs

to differ

> from you all,

> > simply because

> > the analysis of his chart by

HP Theory

tells a

> different story.

> > This is the story of

uncontrolled

Mercury placed

> with ketu in KL chart.

> > His chart as seen from KL

lagna with R1

position,

> will be as under.

> >

> > DOB : 18th July 1935

> > TOB : 7.00 PM

> > 79E26

> > 10N42

> >

> > Dhanur....Rahu (Kaal

Lagna)Sake, Guke.

> > Kumbha....Moon, Sat ®

> > Mithunam..Ketu, Budha, SaRa,

GuRa.

> > Kataka....Surya

> > Simha.....Sukra

> > Tula......Kuja,

Guru

> > Dasa at birth : Kuja

> > Present Dasa

Bhukti....Budha-Sani-Ketu

> >

> >

> > Analysis :

> >

> > R1 POSITION or KAALA LAGNA

> >

> > He is running 5th pratyari

dasa of Budha

who is

> associated with Ketu,

> > SaRa and GuRa are in 7th from

KL.

> >

> > In KL, Budha becomes

Badhakadhipati and

is

> occupying Badhakasthanam.

> > Asociation of Budha with very

powerful

Rahus of

> Sani and Guru along

> > with Lunar Ketu is one of the

most

unbecoming

> aspect of this horoscope.

> >

> > Mercury with such an influence

in his

dasa period

> would make a person

> > whimsical, resorting

> > to exteremes,Lying, cheating,

fraud and

make him

> perform Dushkarma .

> > It would make him very

ambitious.

> >

> > If in trade/finances, such a

combination

would

> make a person resort to

> > illegal

> > and Unethical ways and

means.Association

of

> Mercury with Ketu/Rahu

> > would give a

> > person association with

dushkarmis like

Robbers,

> cheats, Murderers etc.

> >

> > such Mercury would make the

person

Buddhi Bhrasta.

> > Mercury in 6th from Natural

Lagna with

ketu would

> give him diseases

> > connected with ductless

glands(Hormone

secreting),

> hence he would

> > suffer from Metal tension,

> > and diseases of pancreas,

stomach, heart

etc.

> >

> >

> > R10 POSITION

> >

> > If you take up this chart with

R10

position BRL,

> to check his Karma

> > and Bhagya ,

> > It makes the picture much

clearer.

> >

> > Both the Karmadhipati Guru and

Bhagyadhipati Kuja

> are in 8th position.

> > Mercury again becomes

badhakadhipati in

this

> position. Since 10th lord

> > is also Rajyasthanadhipati,

government

would fail

> to protect him due

> > to karmabadha/karmapida.

> >

> > 12th house is occupied by

Vakri Sani and

> Chandra.Sani being in 9th

> > from Dasanatha would bring

dihonour/padachyuti

> from high post,

> > destruction of Dharma etc in

its bhukti

if dasa is

> a bad dasa.

> >

> >

> > In this case all these things

indicate,

> >

> > THAT THE JATHAKA WOULD BE

DISHONOURED,

HE WILL

> HAVE TO SUFFER

> > IMPRISONMENT/PUNISHMENT

> > AND BEFORE SANI BHUKTI ENDS,

HE WOULD

HAVE TO

> ABDICATE HIS POSITION.

> > MORE WORSE THAN THIS IS, HE

HAS A GANDAM

TO HIS

> LIFE .

> > HE MAY SUFFER SOME BODY HARM

WHICH MAY

BE SELF

> INFLICTED ALSO.

> >

> > God , please show kindly Light.

> > Tamasoma Jyotir gamaya.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

>

 

 

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Dear Vatsa,

Does the aspect of Guru change its nature (of aspect) because he is

Badhaka? Again if we take Budha centric view, then Dasha of Lagnesh

should give good results, is that not correct?

Chandrashekhar.

nameisego wrote:

 

Respected Chandrashekhar ji,

If you take up Budhadasa as focal point, Guru becomes lord of the 7th

which is a badhaka place. As owner of that house, Guru is placed in

5th, which is house of thinking. Distortion/destruction of a bhava is

Guru's forte.(Guru is a double edged sword)

Its power is what might have spoiled the auspiciousnedd of 5th bhava!!

The rot must have set in right when Budha dasa started.

Tatvam-Asi

vedic astrology,

Chandrashekhar

<boxdel>

wrote:

> Dear Vatsa,

> Does HP theory totally ignore aspect of Jupiter? Does occupation

of a

> Bhava by the Bhavesh receiving aspect of Jupiter also has no value?

I am

> asking this, since to my understanding , per Vedic Astrology that

is

> normally followed, exact reverse would be the case.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> nameisego wrote:

>

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> > There is a saying in Gujarati which means,

> > 12th house Rahu either puts the jathaka in fetters (Hancuffs)

or Hangs

> > him.

> > This combination is in chart of Yassar Arafat (Vrishabha

Lagna) chart

> > He spent last years of his life in imprisonment confined to a

house in

> > Palestine.

> > 2nd chart is

of Sri Sankaracharya J.S

> >

> >

> > Much against the sentimental postings posted by all of you

speaking in

> > favour

> > of Sri Sankaracharya, Undersigned begs to differ from you all,

> > simply because

> > the analysis of his chart by HP Theory tells a different

story.

> > This is the story of uncontrolled Mercury placed with ketu in

KL

chart.

> > His chart as seen from KL lagna with R1 position, will be as

under.

> >

> > DOB : 18th July 1935

> > TOB : 7.00 PM

> > 79E26

> > 10N42

> >

> > Dhanur....Rahu (Kaal Lagna)Sake, Guke.

> > Kumbha....Moon, Sat ®

> > Mithunam..Ketu, Budha, SaRa, GuRa.

> > Kataka....Surya

> > Simha.....Sukra

> > Tula......Kuja, Guru

> > Dasa at birth : Kuja

> > Present Dasa Bhukti....Budha-Sani-Ketu

> >

> >

> > Analysis :

> >

> > R1 POSITION or KAALA LAGNA

> >

> > He is running 5th pratyari dasa of Budha who is associated

with Ketu,

> > SaRa and GuRa are in 7th from KL.

> >

> > In KL, Budha becomes Badhakadhipati and is occupying

Badhakasthanam.

> > Asociation of Budha with very powerful Rahus of Sani and Guru

along

> > with Lunar Ketu is one of the most unbecoming aspect of this

horoscope.

> >

> > Mercury with such an influence in his dasa period would make

a person

> > whimsical, resorting

> > to exteremes,Lying, cheating, fraud and make him perform

Dushkarma .

> > It would make him very ambitious.

> >

> > If in trade/finances, such a combination would make a person

resort to

> > illegal

> > and Unethical ways and means.Association of Mercury with

Ketu/Rahu

> > would give a

> > person association with dushkarmis like Robbers, cheats,

Murderers

etc.

> >

> > such Mercury would make the person Buddhi Bhrasta.

> > Mercury in 6th from Natural Lagna with ketu would give him

diseases

> > connected with ductless glands(Hormone secreting), hence he

would

> > suffer from Metal tension,

> > and diseases of pancreas, stomach, heart etc.

> >

> >

> > R10 POSITION

> >

> > If you take up this chart with R10 position BRL, to check his

Karma

> > and Bhagya ,

> > It makes the picture much clearer.

> >

> > Both the Karmadhipati Guru and Bhagyadhipati Kuja are in 8th

position.

> > Mercury again becomes badhakadhipati in this position. Since

10th lord

> > is also Rajyasthanadhipati, government would fail to protect

him due

> > to karmabadha/karmapida.

> >

> > 12th house is occupied by Vakri Sani and Chandra.Sani being

in 9th

> > from Dasanatha would bring dihonour/padachyuti from high post,

> > destruction of Dharma etc in its bhukti if dasa is a bad dasa.

> >

> >

> > In this case all these things indicate,

> >

> > THAT THE JATHAKA WOULD BE DISHONOURED, HE WILL HAVE TO SUFFER

> > IMPRISONMENT/PUNISHMENT

> > AND BEFORE SANI BHUKTI ENDS, HE WOULD HAVE TO ABDICATE HIS

POSITION.

> > MORE WORSE THAN THIS IS, HE HAS A GANDAM TO HIS LIFE .

> > HE MAY SUFFER SOME BODY HARM WHICH MAY BE SELF INFLICTED ALSO.

> >

> > God , please show kindly Light.

> > Tamasoma Jyotir gamaya.

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> > Tatvam-Asi

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Respected Sri Chandrashekhar ji,

 

Guru aspect can be good if Guru is pure.

Please check here. Huru is fully aspected by Rahu with reverse 3rd aspect.

The worst aspect of Rahu in this case.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel>

wrote:

> Dear Vatsa,

> Does the aspect of Guru change its nature (of aspect) because he is

> Badhaka? Again if we take Budha centric view, then Dasha of Lagnesh

> should give good results, is that not correct?

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> nameisego wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Tatvam-Asi,

Sorry to interrupt- Rahu and Guru make 3rd aspect? Not 5th?

If so, why is that the worst one? I am not getting this- please explain when you

get a chance- Thank you. /I haven't been involved in this issue, bcs. I haven't

been informed enough- plus, I know for sure that I believe in God more than

many 'priests', LOL- it has nothing to do with religion, any, let alone GOD

Himself- except that "benefit of doubt"/Narasimha/ is in order, always, minimal

gesture of human compassion, indeed-so my Q maybe off- sorry if that's the case/

Regards,

Annanameisego <nameisego > wrote:

Respected Sri Chandrashekhar ji,Guru aspect can be good if Guru is pure.Please

check here. Huru is fully aspected by Rahu with reverse 3rd aspect.The worst

aspect of Rahu in this case.Tatvam-Asivedic astrology,

Chandrashekhar <boxdel>wrote:> Dear Vatsa,> Does the aspect of Guru change

its nature (of aspect) because he is > Badhaka? Again if we take Budha centric

view, then Dasha of Lagnesh > should give good results, is that not correct?>

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Hare Rama Krishna

 

Dear Ramanarayanan,

 

Thanks for your informative post. Indeed it is a sad event, done in

complete ignorance. When the nation's horoscope speaks of such a

fall in dharma, where to go?

 

Anyway, who is to do the remedies? What is the trikala yagnam that

the seer was performing at the time of arrest? Can you pls throw some

light on it?

 

Thanks & regards

viswanadham

vedic astrology, rama narayanan

<sree88ganesha> wrote:

> SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM

> AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

>

> Dear Narasimha, Gupta, Viswanatham & others,

>

> Namaste. i just wanted to share what i know about kalachakra.

>

> You may be aware of the story of how a mango was won by Ganesha as

a reward for having come around the world in quicker time than

Subramanya. Ganesha came around his parents Uma and Siva and took the

reward stating that parents are his world. This gives us the clue of

the existance of two zodiacs. For conveninent sake let us name the

two as the zodiac of Ganesha and the other one as the zodiac of

Subramanya. The zodiac of Ganesha begins from the the nakshatra

jyestha(bigger) and the zodiac of Subramanya begins from the

nakshatra aswini. The Ganesha zodiac is anti clockwise(is not Mother

in the left side of the lord) and that of Subramanya is clockwise.

>

> The clockwise zodiac has 15 nakshatras and the anti clockwise

zodiac has 12 nakshatras. What does the 3 additional nakshatras mean?

This is the normal path which speaks of brhamacharya, grihastashrama,

vanaprastha and then sanyasa. The Ganesha zodiac hints at direct

sanyasa.

>

> Sage Parasara instructs us to draw both the zodiacs for better

understanding. He calls the Subramanya zodiac as Savya and the

Ganesha zodiac as apasavya.

>

> Subramanya zodiac/savya chakra:- Aswini, bharani, krittika,

punarvasu.pushya,aslesha, hastam,chitra,swati,moolam

pooradam,uthiradom,poorattadhi,uttaratadhi and revathi.

>

> Ganesha zodiac/Apasavya chakra;-

Rohini,mrigasira,aridra,makam,pooram,uttiram,visakam,anusham, ,jyeshth

a, sravana,dhanishta and sathayam.

>

> As a first step, one should list all the planets and the ascendant

as per the nakshatra quarter(this was the olden day practice). Then

plot the planets as per the two zodiacs. The Ganesha/apasavya zodiac

begins from vrishikha. For example let us take the nakshatra Rohini

3rd pada. The 1st pada of Rohini falls in Vrischika, the 2nd falls in

tula and the 3rd falls in kanya and the 4th falls in simha. So as per

this understanding rohini 3rd pada falls in kanya.

>

> This gives the kalachakra chart. We have taken all the planets(not

only the moon).

>

> For example let us take the chart of lunar year kartika which

commenced on 12th November 2004 at 19hours and 57 minutes in New

Delhi. i am enclosing the chart(the usual and not kalachakra) in jhd.

for ready reference. The nakshatrawise position of lagna and planets

are as follows:-

> Lagna;Mrigasira 4th pada Sun & Moon:- Visaka 2nd pada Mars:-Swati

1st pada Buda:- Jyestha 1st pada Guru;- hastam 2nd pada Venus:-Chitra

1st pada Sani:- Pushyami 1st pada Rahu:- Aswini 3rd pada Ketu:-Swati

1st pada Mandi:- Pooram 3rd pada Gulika:- Uttaram 2nd pada

>

> The kalachakra chart in text form as per the above understanding is

as follows:-

> Lagna;-Mesha Sun&Moon:-Tula Mars&Ketu:-Dhanu Buda:-Meena

Guru&Mandi:-Vrishaba Sukra&Sani:-Simha Gulika:-Kumbha.

>

> As per this chart A9 falls in Tula. Sani the badhaka afflicts Sun

(5th lord),Moon(4th lord) and Guru(9th lord) and A9. Guru is polluted

by Mandi. The 9th house is polluted by Mars & Ketu.

>

> As per kalachakra dasa scheme the dasa is that of Tula the deha

rasi where we find A9 posited. What can we expect when deha rasi dasa

is on?

>

> The lord of deha rasi and sign dispositor of A9 venus is afflicted

by badhaka and functional malefic Sani. This can be painful period

for A9(Guru).

>

> What can a weak and afflicted Sun who is in deha rasi confer? He

can cause confrontations with higher authorities/fear of own

enemies/demotions.

>

> What can an afflicted Moon who is in deha rasi confer? He can cause

mental anguish and distress.

>

> The lunar year unveils the stress/humilation and sufferings of

religious heads/Gurus.

>

> Purificatory acts to Sriyantra and prayers to Mata Sri

Tripurasundari will help redeem the situation.

>

> Best wishes.

>

> Astrologically yours,

> p.s.ramanaryanan.