Guest guest Posted November 17, 2004 Report Share Posted November 17, 2004 Dear Praveen & Vishwanatham and others here are my $0.02 worth on this subject.. How does one behave in this world is determined by the Dharma trikona, first being the lagna & 5th being the poorva punya. Now coming to the 9th, Look for the movable and Dual signs the 9th house which dictates the direction that one should follow does not cast any aspect to the Lagna. noe for fixed signs it does have a rasi aspect but it is also the Bhadaka rasi. hence you see there are several obstacles that restrains one from doing good unless the 9th lord is strong and well placed. also 9th represents the Guru(Teacher)who shall guide and elevate one to a better plane. in the absence of such combination, the 5th house takes the drivers seat which equates to past Karma. there fore there is some contribution from past Karma which can be over ridden by a strong 9th house factors. Also ones mind ( Mo) need to be strong to over come any temptations. see Mo is the natural signifactor of AL which is how one is perceived. If the AL OR Mo is influenced by benefics, then one tend to make a wise decision and he will be perceived as a venerable soul which really means that Free will also does drives one. Just as 9th protrcts the Lagna 9th from AL protects one's Image. so it is important that these houses has benefics or strong which can tell about one's spiritual abilities.. Lakshman --- vishwanatham <vishwanatham wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear Sri Praveen, > > Agreed that we all speculate and nothing wrong with > that. Though, as > you said 'sabhda' is superior to 'anumana'. So, > learning from a Guru > (GuruMukha) is important. > > In any theory we present, Prayer to God should Not > become redundant, > is the only submission i like to make. i mean when > and if we say, > everything is predestined, then God worship provides > what? > > We can discuss this hours on, if you are the same > Praveen i know from > Mumbai! > > regards > viswanadham > P.S: 98202 28271 > > vedic astrology, Praveen > Kumar > <chunnu2001@v...> wrote: > > Brilliant ! That is exactly my idea I have been > pondering over for > years. Then concept of Karmaphala (consequences of > own deeds) too > becomes questionable. When everything is predestined > then what we can > mean by self and own karma. If a person has benefic > influence on > Lagna he is bound to do good Karmas than the one > with Mars and Saturn > influencing his personality. Even a great yogi's > life is discussed > through his horoscope which itself means that there > is nothing like > self generated things. There is a loose concept like > partial > freewill. Late Shri B.V.Raman too has talked about > semi independent > karma. But then, we enter a complex and > controversial area with no > proof in support thereof. We have ample proofs of > destiny but, > perhaps, none supporting Karmaphala. Now someone can > ask, "why this > destiny then and how it functions". But then, we can > better leave it > like many other unresolved mysteries of the world > rather than putting > forward inexplicable theories. > > > > The only strong point favouring Karmaphala lies in > the concept > of 'Shabda Praman' in Indian Philosophy. In Indian > Philosophy we find > mention of 'Shabda Praman', that is words or actions > of superior ones > are Praman (evidence) in itself and need not be > substantiated by any > further proof. Hence the great Rishies (seers) who > had given us > astrology which works, also preached about > Karmaphala as the basis of > astrology spanning over more than one births. Today > we don't have any > scientific explanation for planetary influences and > so for Karmaphala > too. > > > > But still, the problem remains unresolved. > > > > Praveen Kumar (Mumbai) > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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