Guest guest Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Edrees, and other learned members, Please check into the following: (I am using MJUS, as rtanslated by Pt. Sanjay Rath, Sagar Publications. CHAPTER I QUARTTER 1 1.1.10 Atmadhikaha kaladibhirna bhogassaptanamashtanam va [4 words] [Via NK] Yes -- Maharishi Jaimini is introducing us into the calculations of the **Chara** Karakas. 1.1.11 Sa eeshtay bandhamokshayoh. [3 words] [Via NK] The Atmakaraka indicates the Ishtadevta and its disposition indicates bondage or emancipation. "Good" and "Bad" are subjective terms, and do not capture the essence of lessons learnt. Also remember that there are 3 Karak schemes: 1) Naisargik or natiral significators 2) Sthira or fixed significators 3) Chara or temporal significators The lessons experienced by the Atman, will be different as experienced by the Manas, as will be different from that of the physical self. For example, Mercury cannot become the Maharishis by mimicing them. Hence, in Pisces, he falls. There are no emotions involved. Anoter example -- the Moon cannot sustain the dead, hence reaches its fall in Scorpio. WHERE the lessons of the Atman are experienced will be gatherd more from the HOUSE where the Chara Atmakaraka sits. A) Look at the sign where it is to examine the ENVIRONMENT (in fall, thriving, or elsewise, etc.) B) Look at the House where it sits C) Look at other planets / interactions in the chart D) Look at the Navamsa as well to get a better idea of Bhagya (or fortune) For example, what does it mean to have the planet signifying the Chara AtmaKaraka sitting in the 6th Vs. 7th House? For Gemini rising, the Moon as the Chara AK in the 6th indicates that: A) Cancer rules the 2nd House B) The Moon is in Scorpio ...... life's challnges for the person will manifest in trying to sustain him/herself (2nd House), or from the immediate family (or kula) and manifest where there is service / rivalry involved. The person will be compassionate (Moon) or on the way to such whereas will find others may not share the same compassionate with him / her....... For Taurus rising, the Moon as the Chara AK in the 7th indicates that: A) Cancer rules the 3nd House B) The Moon is in Scorpio .....life's challenges for the person will manifest in initiation (parakrama, 3rd House) and will manifest in the environment of alliances / partnerships....... The person will be compassionate (Moon) or on the way to such whereas will find others may not share the same compassionate with him / her....... For Aries rising, the Moon as the Chara AK in the 8th indicates that: A) Cancer rules the 4nd House B) The Moon is in Scorpio .....life's challenges for the person will manifest in inner peace (4th House) and will manifest in the environment of great transformations....... The person will be compassionate (Moon) or on the way to such whereas will find others may not share the same compassionate with him / her....... I hope some of these examples help.... More at: http://www..org/learn/ck.htm Nitin. || Namah Shivaaya || Dear friend, you had asked whether AK exalted , debilitated will make a difference , here i quote 2 verses of Jaimini Sutras to clear the point, that they do, indeed make an impact and a difference. SU. 11.-Atmadhikaha kaladibhirna bhogassaptanamashtanamva. Of the seven planets from the Sun to Saturn, or the eight planets from the Sun to Rahu, whichever gets the highest number of degrees becomes the Atmakaraka. SU. 12.-Saeeshtay bandhamokshayoh. Atmakaraka gives bad and good result by virtue of malefic and benefic dispositions such as debility, exaltation, etc. Edrees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 Hi Nitin Namaskar. Could you please elaborate the followings (bold in particular) - For example, Mercury cannot become the Maharishis by mimicing them. Hence, in Pisces, he falls. There are no emotions involved. Anoter example -- the Moon cannot sustain the dead, hence reaches its fall in Scorpio. For Leo lagna with Mars (exalted) as AK in 6th (Makar), can we say that - "Life challenges will manifest from inner peace, harmony, mother, happiness - 4th & dharma, bhagya, father - 9th and will manifest in the environment of strife, struggles, obstacles, services and/or debts. The person will be a fighter (mentally/physically) and find others hindering his way to succeed." Does this make sense? regards Tushankur "Nitin" <astronitin@ vedic astrology .com> cc: [vedic astrology] #2 Atma karaka qualities 01/11/2004 23:13 || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Edrees, and other learned members, Please check into the following: (I am using MJUS, as rtanslated by Pt. Sanjay Rath, Sagar Publications. CHAPTER I QUARTTER 1 1.1.10 Atmadhikaha kaladibhirna bhogassaptanamashtanam va [4 words] [Via NK] Yes -- Maharishi Jaimini is introducing us into the calculations of the **Chara** Karakas. 1.1.11 Sa eeshtay bandhamokshayoh. [3 words] [Via NK] The Atmakaraka indicates the Ishtadevta and its disposition indicates bondage or emancipation. "Good" and "Bad" are subjective terms, and do not capture the essence of lessons learnt. Also remember that there are 3 Karak schemes: 1) Naisargik or natiral significators 2) Sthira or fixed significators 3) Chara or temporal significators The lessons experienced by the Atman, will be different as experienced by the Manas, as will be different from that of the physical self. For example, Mercury cannot become the Maharishis by mimicing them. Hence, in Pisces, he falls. There are no emotions involved. Anoter example -- the Moon cannot sustain the dead, hence reaches its fall in Scorpio. WHERE the lessons of the Atman are experienced will be gatherd more from the HOUSE where the Chara Atmakaraka sits. A) Look at the sign where it is to examine the ENVIRONMENT (in fall, thriving, or elsewise, etc.) B) Look at the House where it sits C) Look at other planets / interactions in the chart D) Look at the Navamsa as well to get a better idea of Bhagya (or fortune) For example, what does it mean to have the planet signifying the Chara AtmaKaraka sitting in the 6th Vs. 7th House? For Gemini rising, the Moon as the Chara AK in the 6th indicates that: A) Cancer rules the 2nd House B) The Moon is in Scorpio ...... life's challnges for the person will manifest in trying to sustain him/herself (2nd House), or from the immediate family (or kula) and manifest where there is service / rivalry involved. The person will be compassionate (Moon) or on the way to such whereas will find others may not share the same compassionate with him / her....... For Taurus rising, the Moon as the Chara AK in the 7th indicates that: A) Cancer rules the 3nd House B) The Moon is in Scorpio .....life's challenges for the person will manifest in initiation (parakrama, 3rd House) and will manifest in the environment of alliances / partnerships....... The person will be compassionate (Moon) or on the way to such whereas will find others may not share the same compassionate with him / her....... For Aries rising, the Moon as the Chara AK in the 8th indicates that: A) Cancer rules the 4nd House B) The Moon is in Scorpio .....life's challenges for the person will manifest in inner peace (4th House) and will manifest in the environment of great transformations....... The person will be compassionate (Moon) or on the way to such whereas will find others may not share the same compassionate with him / her....... I hope some of these examples help.... More at: http://www..org/learn/ck.htm Nitin. || Namah Shivaaya || Dear friend, you had asked whether AK exalted , debilitated will make a difference , here i quote 2 verses of Jaimini Sutras to clear the point, that they do, indeed make an impact and a difference. SU. 11.-Atmadhikaha kaladibhirna bhogassaptanamashtanamva. Of the seven planets from the Sun to Saturn, or the eight planets from the Sun to Rahu, whichever gets the highest number of degrees becomes the Atmakaraka. SU. 12.-Saeeshtay bandhamokshayoh. 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