Pt. Rath & other Astrologers... My 2 cents worth. Chi. PVN

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Dear Chi. Narasimha,

Absolutely not. There is no question of self getting offended.

If there is Karta bhava in self, then there comes the question of

getting offended.

 

Undersigned was just quoting Pt. Rath .

 

On the contrary, it is a good discussion which helps in determining

truth like karakatwas etc.

 

You have asked a question as to from which house to see EXTERNAL

OPPONENTS.. when 6H is meant for internal opponents..

 

In Kurukshetra, there were all relatives facing Arjun. How would you

classify them?

Internal or external enemies?

 

 

For the undersigned, opponent whether internal or external in a

Prasna chart is to be seen as an enemy and only 6th house which is

ARI STHANA needs to be seen.Sub divisions like Internal, external,

fraternal, maternal opponents are all opponents and must be

considered as SHATRUS/ARIS.

 

 

We can view a thing with simple eye or a compound eye.

Both , when used present a very different picture.

 

The real meaning is made by perceptive power of the brain of the

person seeing that thing.

 

A microbiologist when he sees the skin under a microscope, he sees

cells, veins blood particles etc. A poet sees it as a thing of beauty.

So let us stick to our chosen paths and offer different perspectives

to all who are serious students of astrology.

 

SOME SALI ON THE KNOWN SEA ROUTES...SOME TAKE AN UNKNOWN ROUTE.

PEOPLE SAILING ON KNOWN ROUTE FIND THEIR DESTINATION FASTER ...

PEOPLE WHO TAKE AN UNCHARTERED ROUTE, MAY GET LOST OR DISCOVER A

CONTINENT.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

Your question has again opened a new line to think for self about

internal/external enemy. Another posting will be necessary on this

question soon.

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr@c...> wrote:

> Namaste,

>

> Looks like you are offended.

I did not mean to offend you.

 

 

 

 

When you said the rulers and the opposition party are seen from 1st

and 6th in a nation's chart, I did not realize that you had your own

set of meanings for all houses. I said it was not logical, based on

the standard accepted meanings. I am sorry if you are offended.

>

> However, the fact remains that your meanings are not the accepted

meanings. This must be your own research like your "Rahu-centric"

theory.

>

> Normally, we consider the 10th house as the Indra sthana, 1st house

as Prajapati sthana, 7th house as Shiva sthana, 9th house as Vishnu

sthana and so on. This is not my research, but based on the teachings

of elders.

>

> Each individual is a microcosmic representation of the universe

(macrocosm). There is a "Prajapati" within each of us. He is

respeonsible for creating various gods and demons within us (our good

and bad qualities). He is responsible for re-vitalizing/creating

thousands of cells within our body everyday. This is why, a strong

lagna/lagna lord is necessary for good health, intelligence and good

character.

>

> When you are looking at a nation, it makes sense to see its king

from Indra sthana rather than Prajapati sthana. BTW, with your

approach, if the 6th house shows the internal opponents of the leader

of the nation, which house shows the external enemies of the nation

(like Al Qaeda, Iraq etc in the case of USA)? The 9th house?

>

> You are free to pursue what sounds logical to you. But I am most

happy with the teachings of Sages and see no need to deviate in the

name of research.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

> > Coming to your observation about Nation,

> > 1st house denotes the Head of the nation,(Karta)

> > 4th house denotes Nation

> > and 10th house denotes Pentagon/ (In case of USA).

> >

> > If you have your ideas different from self, you are welcome to

have

> > them.

> > Same thing goes to Grahas and Houses arguement put forth by you.

> >

> > Self treats TP chart/Prasna chart or any aroodha chart with the

same

> > yardstick

> > and is getting contantly good result.

> >

> > Let us stick to our ways which might differ at many points.

> > What is important is to find out easier method of prognostication.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

[Guest guest]

Dear Chi. Narasimha,

Absolutely not. There is no question of self getting offended.

If there is Karta bhava in self, then there comes the question of

getting offended.

 

Undersigned was just quoting Pt. Rath .

 

On the contrary, it is a good discussion which helps in determining

truth like karakatwas etc.

 

You have asked a question as to from which house to see EXTERNAL

OPPONENTS.. when 6H is meant for internal opponents..

 

In Kurukshetra, there were all relatives facing Arjun. How would you

classify them?

Internal or external enemies?

 

 

For the undersigned, opponent whether internal or external in a

Prasna chart is to be seen as an enemy and only 6th house which is

ARI STHANA needs to be seen.Sub divisions like Internal, external,

fraternal, maternal opponents are all opponents and must be

considered as SHATRUS/ARIS.

 

 

We can view a thing with simple eye or a compound eye.

Both , when used present a very different picture.

 

The real meaning is made by perceptive power of the brain of the

person seeing that thing.

 

A microbiologist when he sees the skin under a microscope, he sees

cells, veins blood particles etc. A poet sees it as a thing of beauty.

So let us stick to our chosen paths and offer different perspectives

to all who are serious students of astrology.

 

SOME SALI ON THE KNOWN SEA ROUTES...SOME TAKE AN UNKNOWN ROUTE.

PEOPLE SAILING ON KNOWN ROUTE FIND THEIR DESTINATION FASTER ...

PEOPLE WHO TAKE AN UNCHARTERED ROUTE, MAY GET LOST OR DISCOVER A

CONTINENT.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

Your question has again opened a new line to think for self about

internal/external enemy. Another posting will be necessary on this

question soon.

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr@c...> wrote:

> Namaste,

>

> Looks like you are offended.

I did not mean to offend you.

 

 

 

 

When you said the rulers and the opposition party are seen from 1st

and 6th in a nation's chart, I did not realize that you had your own

set of meanings for all houses. I said it was not logical, based on

the standard accepted meanings. I am sorry if you are offended.

>

> However, the fact remains that your meanings are not the accepted

meanings. This must be your own research like your "Rahu-centric"

theory.

>

> Normally, we consider the 10th house as the Indra sthana, 1st house

as Prajapati sthana, 7th house as Shiva sthana, 9th house as Vishnu

sthana and so on. This is not my research, but based on the teachings

of elders.

>

> Each individual is a microcosmic representation of the universe

(macrocosm). There is a "Prajapati" within each of us. He is

respeonsible for creating various gods and demons within us (our good

and bad qualities). He is responsible for re-vitalizing/creating

thousands of cells within our body everyday. This is why, a strong

lagna/lagna lord is necessary for good health, intelligence and good

character.

>

> When you are looking at a nation, it makes sense to see its king

from Indra sthana rather than Prajapati sthana. BTW, with your

approach, if the 6th house shows the internal opponents of the leader

of the nation, which house shows the external enemies of the nation

(like Al Qaeda, Iraq etc in the case of USA)? The 9th house?

>

> You are free to pursue what sounds logical to you. But I am most

happy with the teachings of Sages and see no need to deviate in the

name of research.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

> > Coming to your observation about Nation,

> > 1st house denotes the Head of the nation,(Karta)

> > 4th house denotes Nation

> > and 10th house denotes Pentagon/ (In case of USA).

> >

> > If you have your ideas different from self, you are welcome to

have

> > them.

> > Same thing goes to Grahas and Houses arguement put forth by you.

> >

> > Self treats TP chart/Prasna chart or any aroodha chart with the

same

> > yardstick

> > and is getting contantly good result.

> >

> > Let us stick to our ways which might differ at many points.

> > What is important is to find out easier method of prognostication.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi