Bush/Kerry

October 29, 2004

Dear Astrologers,

Chart analysis of Mr. Kerry-----------------Mr. Bush.

Birth star Mirgaserida, popular & Accommodative------------------------Chitrta not.

----------------------------Popular & not accommodative.

Sc.Lagna,Subha-karthari yoga-------------Cn.Lagna,Aasubha-karthari yoga.

Thaarana yr’s Aadhaya 2 points-----------Aadhaya 14 points.

Born in Rajoo guna manipulative-----------Sathva guna non manipulative.

Raajayoga Jhathaka---------------------------Raajayoga not apparent.

Fit for popular mandate----------------------Unfit for popular

-------------------mandate.

Present vimshotri dasa not so well---------Vimshotri dasa good.

Present gochara is good for victory-------------------gochara is fair.

In spite of my above analysis as my scale’s pans are oscillatory, I have

resorted to Prasana which tells me that Mr. Bush’s Ca.Lagna would be

Victorious.

Dhananjayan.

GWBrennan (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

Regarding the lively Bush/Kerry controversy.

I have recently done a lot of research on the annual new year chart. It seems

to me that there is a considerable degree of self-deception in trying to

balance fine distinctions against fine distinctions in the charts of the

candidates when it is not the whole picture anyway. This is a really major

national and international event and mundane astrology can answer it. In fact

it should be a recognized principle of astrology that when an event gets to the

national level of importance then the annual chart for the nation will show what

is happening. This could save astrologers with much better reputations than me

from making complete fools of themselves and reducing the status of astrology

by using methods which do not work because they do not address the crucial

issue.

Sanjay has recently written on this at http://parasara.blogspot.com/ using the

Tithi Pravesha chart, one of the mundane methods, and has come out in favour of

Kerry. The annual new year chart or Chaitra Shukla chart will show exactly what

will happen and if you apply the appropriate dasha it will show when it will

happen. Other people may be able to read this better than I can, and if I get

this wrong it is not the fault of the chart, as it is accurate.

The chart data is 20/3/2004 at 17.41.24 hrs in Washington DC Ascendant is Leo 29.43 degrees.

The ascendant lord Sun - president - is weak due to the lagna and in the 8th and

aspected by Saturn from divisive Gemini. He is with dark Moon representing

public and they do not like what he is doing. Lord of the tenth, president, is

with the evil-doer Rahu in the 9th (12th house of loss in relation to 10th). He

is getting away with it thanks to Jupiter's aspect. Lord of 12th is also with

the lord of the 1st along with debilitated lord of 11th, all not good news.

Lord of 4th - domestic opposition - is in 10th of high office and lord of 9th

is Mars, same as lord of 4th and might represent a senator going from the 9th

Senate to the 10th White House. Saturn represents dissatisfied masses and he

aspects the ascendant, the fifth of job loss and the lord of the 5th, and the

ascendant Lord Sun. Using Shripati house calculation Saturn, the democrat,

goes from 11th to 10th. Saturn also represents harsh judgement

and forced decisions and I think it is possible that Kerry will get to the White

House backed by a court decision made on behalf of the public. Either that or

there is just a sudden rush for Kerry.

Mars Dasha - compressed Vimshottari works on every chart I have tried - begins

on 1st November and indicates both strife and victory for the opposition party,

especially as Mars gives his results quickly.

If anyone can read a Bush victory from this I would be delighted to hear the argument.

Regards

Gordon Brennan

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November 1, 2004

Mr.Gordon Brennan,

I have few genuine doubts in your Chitra Shukla chart analysis, I cannot able to

draw conclusions like you, please clarify.

“The chart data is 20/3/2004 at 17.41.24 hrs in Washington DC Ascendant is Leo 29.43 degrees.”

I agree.

“The ascendant lord Sun - president - is weak due to the lagna and in the 8th

and aspected by Saturn from divisive Gemini.”

I cannot presume that the Sun is week; it seems to me it is strong. Further, if

I treat Sun as a karaka, it would represent various Rupas viz. President, Prime

minister and top excicutives in both Government & private sectors. On the other

hand if I treat Sun as the Lord of the 1st Bhava, it would represent general

condition of the country, its people and their moods depending on their joy or

sorrow caused by the Governments’ governess, the reputation of a country in the

eyes of the world community. The world community as a whole accepts USA as a

supper power. If so then how did you deduce that the president alone is week?

“ He is with dark Moon representing public and they do not like what he is doing.”

I presume Moon as a karaka represents masses, agriculture, women and democracy;

I have no reason to believe that US agriculture, women and democracy in a bad

shape. On the other hand if I consider Moon as the Lord of 12th house it

represents expenditure, secret enemies, prisons; US economy is relatively good.

Then how did you deduce that people do not like him?

“ Lord of the tenth, president, is with the evil-doer Rahu in the 9th (12th

house of loss in relation to 10th). He is getting away with it thanks to

Jupiter's aspect. “

Lord of the 10th house represents Leaders in a country, as such both Mr. John

Kerry and Mr. Bush are considered as Leaders, how could you mean that one

Leader is affected and the other is not?

“ Lord of 12th is also with the lord of the 1st along with debilitated lord of

11th, all not good news.”

I cannot agree to your argument that only one Rupa represented by Lord of the

1st house, alone is affected while the others are purported to be safe.

“ Lord of 4th - domestic opposition - is in 10th of high office and lord of 9th

is Mars, same as lord of 4th and might represent a senator going from the 9th

Senate to the 10th White House. Saturn represents dissatisfied masses and he

aspects the ascendant, the fifth of job loss and the lord of the 5th, and the

ascendant Lord Sun. Using Shripati house calculation Saturn, the democrat,

goes from 11th to 10th. Saturn also represents harsh judgement and forced

decisions and I think it is possible that Kerry will get to the White House

backed by a court decision made on behalf of the public. Either that or there

is just a sudden rush for Kerry.”

The Parivarthana between Mars and Venus creates Raja yoga to USA as a whole;

further the association of Ragu with Venus indicates another Raja yoga

depicting communications, Media are relatively at its highest peak, the native

Muslims are happy with their Government.

The 4th house, represents both the ruling and the opposition parties in the

Senate, I could not differentiate and infer that only one Senator going to

White House and others are forbidden to go. One of the Rupas attributed to

Saturn is unruly mass in a country; I cannot digest you drawing a parallel to

job-less and unruly mass.

“Mars Dasha - compressed Vimshottari works on every chart I have tried - begins

on 1st November and indicates both strife and victory for the opposition party,

especially as Mars gives his results quickly.”

No comments on Mars dasa, Iam yet to experiment it.

“If anyone can read a Bush victory from this I would be delighted to hear the argument.”

Please refer to the predictions based on technical grounds favoring Mr. Bush

made by M/S.RaghunathaRao, Sathyanarayanagupta, RamadasRao, RamanSuprajaRama,

Tatvam-Asi and others, you may treat them as good counter discussions to your

predictions.