Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Jyothis Vithvan Chandrashekharji, During my causal talk with my village Prohit and valluva-Pandaram, I have made a reference about the availability of Kalachakra dasa compilation in JHL.6. They astonished and said how could it be, it is Bhagiratha-prayathna .To understand, it is comparatively difficult and equal to venturing Siva-Patha-Dharshna, do their words are true? They further added, if at all available, it would only be a Naveena-Kalachakra-dasa system. Since they natured a doubt in me, I request you to opine on it as a Vijayadasami day gift. Regards, Dhananjayan. Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Dear Dhananjayan, I think the Pundits, perhaps confused it with the Kalachakra Puja performed at Gaya. Kalachakra Dasha is elaborated upon in BPHS at length. Therefore I think they are confusing this with the Kalachakra, at the center of which resides Lord Shiva who, alone, can control the gateway to 7 hells underneath as envisaged in Kalachakra. Kalachakra Puja is performed by H.H. Dalai Lama every year at Bodh-Gaya. If you could ask them about it and explain the difference between the two, I am certain they will understand. Chandrashekhar. Dhananjayan Brahma wrote: Jyothis Vithvan Chandrashekharji, During my causal talk with my village Prohit and valluva-Pandaram, I have made a reference about the availability of Kalachakra dasa compilation in JHL.6. They astonished and said how could it be, it is Bhagiratha-prayathna .To understand, it is comparatively difficult and equal to venturing Siva-Patha-Dharshna, do their words are true? They further added, if at all available, it would only be a Naveena-Kalachakra-dasa system. Since they natured a doubt in me, I request you to opine on it as a Vijayadasami day gift. Regards, Dhananjayan. Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Dear Sir, I am the programmer of JHL 6.0 software. What I programmed is Kalachakra dasa as taught by Parasara in "Brihat Parasara Hora Sastram". Of course, this implementation is based on my limited understanding. My programming was also based on a text called "Kalachakram" written by Sriman Tirumala Samudrala Venkata Raghavacharya in 1930. That text gives a discussion on Kalachakra dasa between Shiva and Parvati. It has a lot of Sanskrit verses and their translation into Telugu by Sriman Raghavacharya. These verses may be from some Purana or some other classical text, but the source is not mentioned. This source is much much more detailed than BPHS. I used this source and BPHS in my understanding of Kalachakra dasa. I sincerely tried my best to program it correctly. However, I am not completely clear why it is called "Kalachakra" dasa by Parasara and what is the link between this dasa and Kalachakra. So I will not be surprised if it turns out that my understanding is imperfect. If the village Purohit you mentioned can elaborate, I can try to learn and correct any errors in my software. Can he kindly elaborate what he means by "Naveena Kalachakra dasa" and how the ancient system differs from the new one? From your words, it sounds like this this gentleman knows something more than I do. I will be grateful if he can shed further light for the benefit of all. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha > Jyothis Vithvan Chandrashekharji, > > During my causal talk with my village Prohit and valluva-Pandaram, I have made a reference about the availability of Kalachakra dasa compilation in JHL.6. They astonished and said how could it be, it is Bhagiratha-prayathna .To understand, it is comparatively difficult and equal to venturing Siva-Patha-Dharshna, do their words are true? They further added, if at all available, it would only be a Naveena-Kalachakra-dasa system. > > Since they natured a doubt in me, I request you to opine on it as a Vijayadasami day gift. > > Regards, > > Dhananjayan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Dear Narasimha, Kalachakra Dashas referred to perhaps have to do with Yoginis as indicated in Prashnamarga as under. n]ÇE> kalc³StEyaeRigNy m&Tyuna twa, sMàdayaNtrae®tin kWyNte l][aNyw.;aefza*ay> 81. nakñatraiù kälacakrastairyoginya måtyunä tathä| sampradäyäntarokttani kathyante lakñaëänyatha||81|| Regards, Chandrashekhar. pvr108 wrote: Dear Sir, I am the programmer of JHL 6.0 software. What I programmed is Kalachakra dasa as taught by Parasara in "Brihat Parasara Hora Sastram". Of course, this implementation is based on my limited understanding. My programming was also based on a text called "Kalachakram" written by Sriman Tirumala Samudrala Venkata Raghavacharya in 1930. That text gives a discussion on Kalachakra dasa between Shiva and Parvati. It has a lot of Sanskrit verses and their translation into Telugu by Sriman Raghavacharya. These verses may be from some Purana or some other classical text, but the source is not mentioned. This source is much much more detailed than BPHS. I used this source and BPHS in my understanding of Kalachakra dasa. I sincerely tried my best to program it correctly. However, I am not completely clear why it is called "Kalachakra" dasa by Parasara and what is the link between this dasa and Kalachakra. So I will not be surprised if it turns out that my understanding is imperfect. If the village Purohit you mentioned can elaborate, I can try to learn and correct any errors in my software. Can he kindly elaborate what he means by "Naveena Kalachakra dasa" and how the ancient system differs from the new one? From your words, it sounds like this this gentleman knows something more than I do. I will be grateful if he can shed further light for the benefit of all. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha > Jyothis Vithvan Chandrashekharji, > > During my causal talk with my village Prohit and valluva-Pandaram, I have made a reference about the availability of Kalachakra dasa compilation in JHL.6. They astonished and said how could it be, it is Bhagiratha-prayathna .To understand, it is comparatively difficult and equal to venturing Siva-Patha-Dharshna, do their words are true? They further added, if at all available, it would only be a Naveena-Kalachakra-dasa system. > > Since they natured a doubt in me, I request you to opine on it as a Vijayadasami day gift. > > Regards, > > Dhananjayan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Jyothis Vithvan Chandrashekharji, I acknowledge with thanks, your Vijayadasami day gift is more than my expectations. You have shown me a different horizon, which the village Prohit amazed to know the link between Budhavihkar & Jhl-Vedic Astrology. Regards, Dhananjayan. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Dhananjayan,I think the Pundits, perhaps confused it with the Kalachakra Puja performed at Gaya. Kalachakra Dasha is elaborated upon in BPHS at length. Therefore I think they are confusing this with the Kalachakra, at the center of which resides Lord Shiva who, alone, can control the gateway to 7 hells underneath as envisaged in Kalachakra. Kalachakra Puja is performed by H.H. Dalai Lama every year at Bodh-Gaya. If you could ask them about it and explain the difference between the two, I am certain they will understand.Chandrashekhar.Dhananjayan Brahma wrote: Jyothis Vithvan Chandrashekharji, During my causal talk with my village Prohit and valluva-Pandaram, I have made a reference about the availability of Kalachakra dasa compilation in JHL.6. They astonished and said how could it be, it is Bhagiratha-prayathna .To understand, it is comparatively difficult and equal to venturing Siva-Patha-Dharshna, do their words are true? They further added, if at all available, it would only be a Naveena-Kalachakra-dasa system. Since they natured a doubt in me, I request you to opine on it as a Vijayadasami day gift. Regards, Dhananjayan. Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Dear Mr.PVRji, Thanks for your kind response to my mail addressed toMr.Chandrashekharji.Since you are the author of JHL, it would have been proper on my part to address you direct; however I make it clear that I have no motives behind it. As regards to your Kala chakr dasa, I have made few print outs from JHL6. With nakshatras U.Bha 4th quarter, U.Bha 3rd quarter, P.Bha 4th quarter, Makh 1st quarter. They show paramayush as 88,86,100,85 years respectively; where as my village Prohit compared them with what is appearing in Vasan thirk panchangam, the panchangam show the above referred years as 86,83, 86, 86 years, further we have verified with BPHS Ch. On Kaal chakr sloka 89. (The numbers of years (Purna Ayu) are, as under. For the Añú in Mesh 100 years, in Vrishabh 85 years, in Mithun 83 years, in Kark 86 years. The number of years will be the same for Râúis, situated the 5th and 9th to them.) We found that Vasan panchangam is only in agreement with BHPS. Vasan panchangam also differs from dega / jeewa rasis as that of yours. My village prohit had opined that the Kala chakr in JHL is a unique dasa system of its oun and resembles to be naveena / noodhana Kaal chakr dasa system which he have not so far come accrossed. I feel the subject is somewhat hard net to crack, on my understanding the dasa system in due course; I shall revert to you for any further discussions on it. Dhananjayan. pvr108 <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Sir,I am the programmer of JHL 6.0 software. What I programmed is Kalachakra dasa as taught by Parasara in "Brihat Parasara Hora Sastram". Of course, this implementation is based on my limited understanding.My programming was also based on a text called "Kalachakram" written by Sriman Tirumala Samudrala Venkata Raghavacharya in 1930. That text gives a discussion on Kalachakra dasa between Shiva and Parvati. It has a lot of Sanskrit verses and their translation into Telugu by Sriman Raghavacharya. These verses may be from some Purana or some other classical text, but the source is not mentioned. This source is much much more detailed than BPHS. I used this source and BPHS in my understanding of Kalachakra dasa.I sincerely tried my best to program it correctly. However, I am not completely clear why it is called "Kalachakra" dasa by Parasara and what is the link between this dasa and Kalachakra. So I will not be surprised if it turns out that my understanding is imperfect.If the village Purohit you mentioned can elaborate, I can try to learn and correct any errors in my software. Can he kindly elaborate what he means by "Naveena Kalachakra dasa" and how the ancient system differs from the new one? >From your words, it sounds like this this gentleman knows something more than I do. I will be grateful if he can shed further light for the benefit of all.May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha> Jyothis Vithvan Chandrashekharji,> > During my causal talk with my village Prohit and valluva-Pandaram, I have made a reference about the availability of Kalachakra dasa compilation in JHL.6. They astonished and said how could it be, it is Bhagiratha-prayathna .To understand, it is comparatively difficult and equal to venturing Siva-Patha-Dharshna, do their words are true? They further added, if at all available, it would only be a Naveena-Kalachakra-dasa system.> > Since they natured a doubt in me, I request you to opine on it as a Vijayadasami day gift.> > Regards,> > Dhananjayan. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 MR.Chandrashekharji, Smt.Shanti, Mr.PVR.Narasimhaji, Mr.Chandrashekarji, My perception is that you’re a man of vivid Astrological knowledge; you could circumvent any astrological discussion. However your misconceptions about Astrological Kala chakra dasa to some other pooja system had caused me to approach my Village Prohit for further clarifications. Smt.Shanti, Please understand from Mr. Narasimha’s post to you, that “ All that glitters are not gold” Mr.P.V.R. Narasimha Rao, My village Prohit is a practicing in Krishna Yajurveda Aabhassthmba suthram, he directed me to contact his Guru at Thanjavour who had taught him Mukurtha Sastra and Kala chakra dasa system several 10s of years ago. Leaving my Divalli business, I road all the way to Thanjavour in search of my Prohit’s Guruji and really after my Bhakiratha- Prayathna I could trace my Prohit’s Guruji at Pondicherry 605005,INDIA.It was a surprise for me to understand that my Prohit’s Guruji as well as Mr.VedapuriBaskaraBandulu.D.Sathiyanarayanagupta are the one and the same person. Mr.VedapuriBaskarabandulu.D.sathiyanarayanagupta was kind enough to give Bala-siksha in Kala chackra dasa system, the blue print of it have been publicized Mr.Narasimha Rao, Sir, if your genuinely interested in honoring, you may do so and send copies of your book and commercial soft-wear to: Mr.VedapuriBaskaraBandulu.D.Sathiyanarayanagupta, # 24, 2nd Cross-, Annanagar, PONDICHERRY 605005, Pond cherry State, I N D I A. My address: Mr.K.Krishnamoorthy,(Dhananjayan) Prop. Gandhi Textiles, # 115 / H2, Pootai Road, Sankarapuram 606401. Villupuram Dist, Tamil Nadu State, INDIA. My village Prohit has no system, do know English, he told me your books or soft- wear is of no use to him. I have a system for my business purpose only. In our village we Often face Electricity failure and net-congestion. Dhananjayan. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Narasimha,Kalachakra Dashas referred to perhaps have to do with Yoginis as indicated in Prashnamarga as under.n]ÇE> kalc³StEyaeRigNy m&Tyuna twa,sMàdayaNtrae®tin kWyNte l][aNyw.;aefza*ay> 81. nakñatraiù kälacakrastairyoginya måtyunä tathä|sampradäyäntarokttani kathyante lakñaëänyatha||81||Regards,Chandrashekhar.pvr108 wrote: Dear Sir,I am the programmer of JHL 6.0 software. What I programmed is Kalachakra dasa as taught by Parasara in "Brihat Parasara Hora Sastram". Of course, this implementation is based on my limited understanding.My programming was also based on a text called "Kalachakram" written by Sriman Tirumala Samudrala Venkata Raghavacharya in 1930. That text gives a discussion on Kalachakra dasa between Shiva and Parvati. It has a lot of Sanskrit verses and their translation into Telugu by Sriman Raghavacharya. These verses may be from some Purana or some other classical text, but the source is not mentioned. This source is much much more detailed than BPHS. I used this source and BPHS in my understanding of Kalachakra dasa.I sincerely tried my best to program it correctly. However, I am not completely clear why it is called "Kalachakra" dasa by Parasara and what is the link between this dasa and Kalachakra. So I will not be surprised if it turns out that my understanding is imperfect.If the village Purohit you mentioned can elaborate, I can try to learn and correct any errors in my software. Can he kindly elaborate what he means by "Naveena Kalachakra dasa" and how the ancient system differs from the new one? From your words, it sounds like this this gentleman knows something more than I do. I will be grateful if he can shed further light for the benefit of all.May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha> Jyothis Vithvan Chandrashekharji,> > During my causal talk with my village Prohit and valluva-Pandaram, I have made a reference about the availability of Kalachakra dasa compilation in JHL.6. They astonished and said how could it be, it is Bhagiratha-prayathna .To understand, it is comparatively difficult and equal to venturing Siva-Patha-Dharshna, do their words are true? They further added, if at all available, it would only be a Naveena-Kalachakra-dasa system.> > Since they natured a doubt in me, I request you to opine on it as a Vijayadasami day gift.> > Regards,> > Dhananjayan. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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