HP Theory Predicts History in Making US Elections....R4 position ..Part II

October 19, 2004

Dear Friends,

As promised , self is posting part II of series in US Presiden's

election , as seen thro' HP THEORY R4 position.

Guru Ramadasaji has posted a rejoinder to his prediction based on R10

position also known as BRL position.

In order to demonstrate versatility of predicting same thing based on

Rahu's position, this attemt is made using R4 or YBL position of Rahu.

JOHN KERRY

As posted earlier, many different birth timings of John

kerry are there. I proposed that I will discuss Vrischik

Lagna of John Kerry using R4 position (YBL) of Rahu.

John Kerry

ARIES..........YBL

TAURUS.........Moon, Mars

GEMINI.........Saturn

CANCER.........Rahu

LEO............Jupiter

LIBRA..........Venus

SCORPIO........Sun..(Natl.Asc)

SAGGI..........Mercury

CAPRI..........Ketu

Running Mercury-Mercury-Rahu period

What the horoscope means at this juncture?

EXPLANATION:

If we take R4 position , YBL is Mesha and 4th house

lord Moon in 2nd house is with Mars.

Lagna lord and 4th lord in 2nd in exaltation will make him bid

for living in an EXLTED HOUSE known as WHITE HOUSE.

This is further confirmed from 9th lord Jupiter occupying 5th.

This is also further confirmed from 5th lord Sun aspecting this

exalted Moon.

But whether his dreams will become reality ?

The answer is NO..... a BIG NO.

Why ? What are the reasons?

He is neither running Period of Moon, Jupiter or Sun.

He is running Budha dasa Budha bhukti.

Budha is lord of two bad houses 3rd and 6th.

Budha is occupying 9th house aspected by Badhakadhipati Sani and 8th

lord Mars.

Mercury is in Mula Nakshatra with Ketus of Saturn and Jupiter GUKE

and SAKE keeing him company.

Mercury in company of such Ketus will make him a pseudo Idealist

using figures as weapon.

Mercury in aspect of Saturn will make him an oscillator of Ideology

changing

his stand from time to time to suit his purpose.

His Guru is in 5th as Bhagyadhipathi and Sukhabhagyadhipathi (12TH) .

And apart from being in VM,Guru is fully aspected by Saturn. Thus his

Bhagya is attacked by Sani (Bush)

and Rahu (His policy on Iraq and computer /software field)

His change of dasa from Sombre Sani dasa which saw him rise in

Politics, just got over and exactly opposite natured Mercury Dasa

in Dhanus Rasi has started.

This changeover will leave him a confused politician,talking glibly.

Why talking glibly???

Because Mercury is in 2nd house in his natal chart in Mula Nakshatra.

In YBL, Mercury becomes his Opponent, the 6th lord ... meaning Bush .

As 6th lord , Mercury is well placed in 9th aspected by 9th lord

Jupiter.

Same Mercury is aspected by Satun and Mars.Thus making his

opponent MORE CRUEL AND POWERFUL THAN HIMSELF.Thus in Tug of war, he

will lose.

There can be some more arguements put forth against his hope to win

US president's seat.

But this should suffice.

When undersigned made a prediction many months back while discussing

Kala sarpa yoga analysis as seen through HP Theory,which is present

in George Bush's chart,

it was observed that he will become next president of USA.(Fortune

favours not so intelligents)

Same thing is being repeated ,

If findings of self as seen thro HP Theory hold true in this win/lose

situation,

"JOHN KERRY WILL LOSE THIS ELECTION EVEN BEFORE THE VOTE BY AMERICANS

ARE CAST.

HIS BHAGYA WILL DESERT HIM AT LAST MOMENT LIKE KARNA LOSING HIS

KAVACH IN THE BATTLE GROUND.

Then Krishna (Kaal or Rahu) had shown the way, here

Mlechhas /Terrorists /Fundamentalists and Computer jobs/professionals

and his war response on all battle grounds ,will directly or

indirectly see to his fall from public eye."

Women , southern states and Western states would go against him.

Tatvam-Asi

-

vedic astrology, "nameisego" <nameisego>

wrote:

>

> Hello Friends,

>

> HP Theory is now on anvil and is being tested for its usefulness

and

> simplicity.

> Atmasnehi Guru Ramadasa has been using it very effectively in

> analysing charts.This is another attempt by self using R4 or YBL

> position of Rahu. Some startling things might happen during Kataka

> sojourn of Saturn.

> Today, self is posting the first of the three parts of US election

> analysis.

>

> Most of the astrologers and learned Gurus have given their readings

> on "THE GREAT FIGHT"between John Kerry and G.W Bush.

> And predictably everyone except Guru Ramadasa has predicted Kerry

to

> carry forward the star spangled banner for the next four years.

> Self is but a sudent of astrology trying to establish a new system

of

> prediction based on Rahu centric HP theory.

>

> Ramadasa ji had predicted Bush to win based on Simha Lagna for John

> Kerry and usual Kataka Lagna for George Bush.

> Many more birth timings of Kerry has surfaced giving Vrischik Lagna

> and so on .

> The beauty of HP system is that it is not so sensitive to time

> changes as long as Moon remains in the same rasi.

> So , since Ramadasaji has given his predictions based on R10

position

> called BRL ,

> in order to show that HP system can use any position of Rahu in R4,

> R1 ,R10

> to predict the even with same result.

>

> As per HP, 4th house denotes Service.

> President of USA is a paid servent .

> Hence that is one reason, self is using R4 position of Rahu and the

> second reason is, R4 stands for Living quarters of the person and

is

> a sensitive point on that count.

> Third most important reason to select R4 position is , Saturn's

> ingress in Kataka Rasi which is Rahu's favourit place as per HP

> theory.

> So the reading given is based on R4 postion and the lagna of Kerry

> taken for prediction is Vrischik .

>

> George W Bush' chart as per R4 position with Rahu in 4th house will

> be as follows.

>

> AQUARIUS.............Ascendent (YBL)

> CANCER ..............Natal Asc.

> TAURUS...............Rahu

> CANCER...............Sat, Ven, Merc

> LEO..................Mars

> VIRGO................Jup,Moon

> SCORPIO..............Ketu

> Dasa ................Sat-Jup-Venus

>

> Salient points of the horoscopes are as follows.

> He has a very strong 6th house placement of Saturn

> Mars is his Parakramadhipati in 7th

> And lord of 6th Moon in 8th aspected by Saturn.

> Venus is his 4th and 9th lord is with Lagnadhipati and 5th lord

> Mercury in 6th.

> Sun, the 7th lord in 5th in VM.

>

> What this means ?

> It means, he will use every trick available to him to win this

> election.

> As his opponent is in VM sign and his 3rd lord Mars is in 7th,

> He will completely overpower his opponent as the fight progresses.

>

> Decisive help will come from Rahu which aspects his 7th house

> with reverse aspect which has Mars in Leo in it.

>

> A SURPRISE IN THE FORM OF MAY BE OSAMA BIN LADEN'S CAPTURE

> or an Attack by so called FUNDAMENTALISTS and George Bush's actions

> there of would swing the scales in his favour.

>

> What prompts for such deduction?

> Kataka Rasi transit of Saturn is a direct attack by Saturn

> on most preferred place of Rahu , which is 4th sign/4th house

>

> His (Prez Bush's) domain is over most Americans who are not

bothered

> about foreign policy .

> The only language they know is Gun and the only problems they

> understand are

> problems of local issues to their world.(America).

>

> Intelligentia are a minority spread in east and west coast but rest

> of America

> is a playground for people like Bush . These voters would rather

> watch a football game than

> hear political speeches by Kerry and Bush.

> Virginians would prefer to hear about Christianity and war than

> foreign policy.

>

> Hence He will again raise the bogie of satanic forces out to

destroy

> America in next 30 days .

> Or produce/attack Osama Bi Laden or something more explosive

> happening in Middle east and

> create an opportunity to show his strong arm to the American

public .

>

> To be contd....

>

vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

<ramadasrao@g...>

> wrote:

> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------

> > Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao>

> > Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:06:41 +0100 (BST)

> > Fwd: Re: My analysis on the two Presidential candidates

> > ramadasrao@g...

> >

> > Note: forwarded message attached.

> >

> > India Matrimony: Find your life partner online.

> >

> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------

> > Ramadas Rao

> > Rao Nemani

> > Sun, 26 Sep 2004 20:16:59 +0100 (BST)

> > Re: My analysis on the two Presidential candidates

> >

> > ` nmae naray[ay,

> >

> > om namo näräyaëäya|

> >

> > Dear Rao,

> >

> > I had gone through your analysis of both charts and I would like

to

> > comment on my part through HP Rahu's Centric Theory.

> >

> > Now what is Rahu Centric Theory ? Rahu is a badhaka for one's

Karma

> as

> > 10th is between 9th and 11th.9th is Bhagya Sthana and 11th is

Labha

> > Shana.Rahu is the planet of Maya or Illusion and he makes us false

> > promises.Rahu works like Shani,so he casts aspects like Shani

> > ie.,3rd,7th and 10th house.Now Rahu is also Serpent.A serpent

widens

> > its mouth about 3 times to swallow its prey.Similarly as Rahu is

> also

> > a Serpent,the houses before and next to Rahu also have the

poisons

> of

> > Rahu and hence these 2 houses are called Visha Mukha planets and

any

> > planets there are called Visha Mukha planets.They give only evil

> > results.The same results can be had from Ketu and the 2 houses

> before

> > and next to Ketu.Now using these principles let me analyse the

> charts

> > of both presdient contestants in USA.

> >

> > Now let me analyse 1st the chart of George Bush.As per his

chart,the

> > natal Lagna is Kataka with Rahu in 11th house.Now considering

Rahu

> in

> > 10th house, count the houses backwards and we get Simha as Badha

> Rahu

> > Lagna or BRL.So Shani becomes 6th and 7th lord, Guru becomes 5th

and

> > 8th lord,Chandra becomes 12th lord.Shukra is 3rd and 10th lord

and

> is

> > the lord of sign occupied by Rahu.Now 12th from BRl, we have

Budha ,

> > Shukra and Shani .Kuja is in BRL.Now during Shani -Rahu between

> > 10-12-1999 and 1-10-2002 ( using 360 days per year ) Bush won the

> > elections and became the President of America.here the reason was

> > Shani being 6th lord placed in 12th along with Shukra,the 3rd

lord

> and

> > 10th lord aspected by Rahu gave him powers due to Vipareetha Raja

> > Yoga.Now Shani - Guru is running from 01/10/2002 to

> 31/03/2005.During

> > the time of elections,Kuja's Pratyanatara is running from

22/09/2004

> > to 14/11/2004.Kuja is the 4th and 9th lord from BRL placed in

> > Lagna.Guru is 5th and 8th lord placed in 2nd house, along with

> > Chandra.Here again both Guru and Chandra form Vipareetha raja

> Yoga.Now

> > Mesha becomes AL for BRL Simha and Kuja becomes the lord of AL

from

> > this BRL and is aspected by Rahu by his backwards 10th

aspect.dasha

> > Lord Shani aspects the Antar Dasha lord Guru and Shani's sign

> > dispositor Chandra also.Shani also aspects AL from BRL.So

> considering

> > all these points, it can be deduced that George Bush will again

win

> in

> > the next elections and become the President of USA.Also Guru in

> > transit crosses over his Natal Guru and aspects natal Rahu and all

> > these indicate his gain in the elections again.

> >

> > Now coming to Kerry's chart, his natal Lagna is Simha with Guru in

> > that indicating he is a truthful person and dont know how to

> > manipulate things with common man.Here badha Rahu Lagna will be

Tula

> > where its lord Shukra himself is there.Here Shani (V) is occupied

> 12th

> > from rahu indicating he is a Visha Mukha planet.Similarly Guru is

in

> > 2nd to Rahu indicating another Visha Mukha Planet.Shani is a Yoga

> > Karaka for this BRL Tula but Guru becomes a malefic being the

lord

> of

> > 3rd and 6th from BRL.Pratyanatara dasha lord Kuja is 7th and 2nd

> lord

> > placed in 8th along with Chandra indicating mass or people.At the

> time

> > of elections,Shani- Guru-Kuja is running from 09/10/2004 to

> > 02/12/2004.As explained above Shani and Guru are Visha Mukha

planets

> > and Kuja is in 8th from BRL along with Chandra who is the sign

> > dispositor for Rahu ,all indicate his failure in the US

Presidential

> > elections.

> >

> > I hope this helps you.

> >

> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> >

> > Ramadas Rao.

> >

> > Rao Nemani <raon1008> wrote:

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> >

> > Namaste Guru Ji,

> >

> > Here are the two messages, I have posted in VA list Y'day.

Please

> go

> > thru my anlaysis and give your guidance. I have used a different

> birth

> > details of Kerry's, which are publicly available as this was

given

> to

> > me by Sat Siri Khalsa Ji, in turn she got it directly from Kerry

> > himself.

> >

> > Regards

> > Raghunatha Rao

> >

> > ----- First Message 44598 ----

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> >

> > Namaste Gurus and Learned Members,

> >

> > Today, I have attempted to see on a very focused way of 2004

> upcoming

> > Presidential Candidates (two native Bush and Kerry) charts. As

> usual,

> > I applied few different methods to see the result, so that I could

> > verify the things.

> >

> > Please have a look at this analysis and correct me wherever I am

> > wrong, so that I can learn from your replies.

> >

> > Bush-1:-

> > =======

> >

> > I have considered the following birth details of Bush for this

> analysis:-

> >

> > July 6, 1946

> > Time: 7:27:00

> > Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT)

> > Place: 72 W 55' 43", 41 N 18' 29"

> > New Haven, Connecticut, USA

> >

> > From V-Dasa's:-

> > ==============

> > This native is running Sat-Jup-Merc and election date is 2nd Nov

> 2004,

> > so the Merc Pratyantar Dasa will be running during the election

day

> > also.

> >

> > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

> >

> > Sat MD: 1987-05-14 (8:58:50) - 2006-05-13 (23:33:38)

> > Jup AD: 2003-10-31 (16:48:59) - 2006-05-13 (23:33:38)

> > Merc PD: 2004-07-27 (13:47:01) - 2004-12-05 (15:44:20)

> >

> > Here the Jup is 6th and 9th lord placed in 3rd house with Lagna

Lord

> > Moon and being aspected by Rahu, who is 8th co-lord placed in 11th

> > house.

> >

> > Merc is the 3rd and 12th lord placed in Lagna with 4th and 11th

> lord

> > Venus along with 7th and 8th Lord Saturn. Lagna also have Mandi

and

> > SL. Cn is being aspcted by Rahu, A3 ( From Ta) and Ketu,GL and AL

> from

> > Sc and A5 from 8th house Aq too.

> >

> > Bush-2:-

> > =======

> > Let us see from my favourite Narayana Dasa point of View:-

> >

> > D-1:-

> > ====

> >

> > The native will be running the following D-1 Narayana Dasa during

> the

> > election time:-

> >

> > Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

> >

> > Pi MD: 2000-07-05 (9:43:48) - 2006-07-05 (20:39:00)

> > Sc AD: 2004-07-05 (9:00:36) - 2005-01-03 (23:55:12)

> > Cp PD: 2004-10-19 (21:42:27) - 2004-11-04 (2:57:00)

> >

> > Sc Antar Dasa is in 5th house with GL and AL. Ketu the Antar Dasa

> > co-lord is placed in Antar Dasa it self and the Mars the other

Lord

> > placed in Le with HL. Sc is 9th from the Pi Dasa Rasi too.

> >

> > Cp Pratyantar Dasa is 7th from lagna and 10th from Pi Dasa and 3rd

> > from Sc Antar Dasa. Cp Lord Sat is placed in Lagna and aspcting

the

> Sc

> > and also aspecting the Cp rasi too. Here you will notice that GL

and

> > SL are mutually aspecting. Bhoga of Cp is Li and having argala

from

> Le

> > where Mar (Sc Antar Dasa's Lord) and HL is placed there. So with

> this

> > I can see a connection between GL,SL and HL on Cp's Bhoga and

this

> is

> > a very good indication to be successful in his election.

> >

> > So summary from here is Sc-Cn-Ar is a potentially good for his

> success.

> >

> > D-10:-

> > =====

> >

> > The native will be running the following D-10 Narayana Dasa:-

> >

> > Narayana Dasa of D-10 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

> >

> > Cp MD: 2004-07-05 (9:00:36) - 2008-07-05 (8:17:24)

> > Ar AD: 2004-07-05 (9:00:36) - 2004-11-04 (2:57:00)

> > Sg PD: 2004-10-24 (23:27:18) - 2004-11-04 (2:57:00)

> >

> > Cp Maha Dasa which is 7th from D-10 Lagna and its Paaka is Ar and

> its

> > Bhoga is also Ar. Antar Dasa Ar is 10th from D-10 Lagna and 4th

from

> > Cp Maha Dasa. Its Paaka is placed in Cp ( maha dasa sign) along

with

> > Jup who is 6th and 9th lord ). Cp is being aspected by AL from

Ta.

> Its

> > Bhoga D-10 Lagna itself and being aspected by HL from Aq. D-10

Lagna

> > have A10, A3 and A11 too.

> >

> > Now let us see the Sg Pratynar Dasa. Sg is 6th house from D-10

and

> it

> > is 12th from Maha Dasa and 9th from Ar Antar Dasa. Sg has D-10

Lagna

> > Lord moon, 2nd lord Sun and 3rd and 11th lord Venus along with GL

> and

> > Gulika.

> > Sg's Paaka is Cp which is nothing but Maha Dasa itself and its

Bhoga

> > is Aq which has HL and A6 and A4 in it. This Aq is aspecting Ar

> where

> > its own lord Sat is placed, also aspecting Li where SL is placed

and

> > lastly aspecting the D-10 Lagna too.

> > So this is a very good combination too.

> >

> > Bush-3:-

> > =======

> >

> > Padanaathaamsa Dasa:-

> > =====================

> > Here I am taking the Padanaathaamsa Dasa and will try to analyse

> > whether there are any indication for his success.

> >

> > Padanaathaamsa Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

> >

> > Li MD: 1998-07-05 (22:05:24) - 2007-07-06 (2:28:12)

> > Ar AD: 2004-07-05 (9:00:36) - 2005-04-05 (7:22:30)

> > Cp PD: 2004-10-27 (12:19:43) - 2004-11-19 (8:11:33)

> >

> > Ar Antar Dasa which is 6th from AL and its paaka is Le which is

10th

> > from AL. AL's lord Mars is placed in Le which is nothing but the

> Ar's

> > paaka lagna and HL is also placed there. You will also notice

that

> HL.

> > This Mars is aspecting AL and GL too.

> >

> > Now Cp Pratyantar Dasa is 3rd from AL and its Paaka is D-1 Lagna

and

> > this is placed in 9th from AL itself. You will also notice that Sc

> > where AL is placed is aspecting Cp ( Pratyantar Dasa), Ar (Antar

> Dasa)

> > and Cn (D-1 lagna along with SL) by Rasi Drishti, which is

> connecting

> > all the dasa and GL and SL too.

> > So this is also indicating a good time ahead.

> >

> > Bush-4:-

> > =======

> >

> > Let me take the Tithi Pravesha to verify the above indications and

> > close my analysis with this.

> >

> > Annual T.P:-

> > ===========

> > June 25, 2004

> > Time: 20:52:13

> > Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT)

> > Place: 72 W 55' 43", 41 N 18' 29"

> > New Haven, Connecticut, USA

> >

> > Here the Hora Lord is Merc and he is 7th and 10th lord placed in

7th

> > house which is its own house along with 9th lord Sun and 2nd and

3rd

> > lord Sat, so that is good. Merc is aspecting lagna too. Gulika and

> > Mandi are placed in Pi and HL and Moon are placed in vi are

> aspecting

> > Lagna and Hora Lord too. Jup is aspecting Lagna by Graha Drishti.

> >

> > Lagna is placed in 6/8 with the Natal Lagna which is not a very

> good indication.

> >

> > Vaara Lord is Venus (Vakra), who is 6th and 11th lord placed in

its

> > own house in Ta.

> >

> > Monthly T.P:-

> > ===========

> > October 20, 2004

> > Time: 23:20:18

> > Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT)

> > Place: 72 W 55' 43", 41 N 18' 29"

> > New Haven, Connecticut, USA

> >

> > Here the Hora Lord is Sat and he is 7th and 8th lord placed in

> Lagna,

> > so that is good. Moon and Sat has Parivartana hence Moon behaves

> like

> > as if it is in itw own house in Lagna too. This combination is

being

> > aspected by GL and HL from Aq by Rasi Drishti. Sat is aspecting

10th

> > house where SL, AL and Rahu are placed.

> >

> > Lagna is Cn which is same as the Natal Lagna which is very good

> indication.

> >

> > Vaara Lord is Merc, who is 3rd and 12th Lord Placed in 4th house

> with

> > 2nd lord Sun and 5th co-lord Ketu.

> >

> > Now looking at the Tithi Astottari Dasa:

> >

> > Tithi Ashtottari Dasa of Janma tithi (useful especially in Tithi

> > Pravesha charts):

> >

> > Maha Dasas:

> >

> > Rah: 2004-10-18 (17:27:26) - 2004-10-21 (18:08:25)

> > Ven: 2004-10-21 (18:08:25) - 2004-10-27 (9:10:32)

> > Sun: 2004-10-27 (9:10:32) - 2004-10-29 (2:28:03)

> > Moon: 2004-10-29 (2:28:03) - 2004-11-02 (14:54:33)

> > Mars: 2004-11-02 (14:54:33) - 2004-11-05 (1:32:07)

> > Merc: 2004-11-05 (1:32:07) - 2004-11-09 (21:16:04)

> > Sat: 2004-11-09 (21:16:04) - 2004-11-12 (10:09:48)

> > Jup: 2004-11-12 (10:09:48) - 2004-11-17 (0:54:57)

> > Rah: 2004-11-17 (0:54:57) - 2004-11-20 (2:46:27)

> >

> > So during the Moon, Mars and Merc the election will be held and

> > results will be announced. So now looking at these Dasa's. Moon

is

> in

> > 7th house and also has parivartana with Sat and aspecting the 7th

> > house. Mars is the Yogakaraka in this chart and also forming a

> > DharamaKarmadhi Pati Yoga with Jup. This Mars also forming a

> RajaYoga

> > with Jup too. So Mars Dasa is very good too. Next is Merc, who is

> > Vaara Lord and placed in 4th house and also involved in forming

the

> > Brahma Yoga.

> >

> > So looking at that level, This native's chances are very high to

be

> > successful in the forthcoming elections.

> >

> > I will write another message on the other candidate (Kerry's)

> Analysis

> > separately, as this message is too long already.

> >

> > Regards

> > Raghunatha Rao

> >

> > --- Second message 44599 ---

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> >

> > Namaste Gurus and Learned Members,

> >

> > This is in continuation to my earlier analysis message, here I

have

> > attempted to see the second 2004 Presidential Candidates (Kerry)

> > charts. As usual, I applied few different methods to see the

> result,

> > so that I could verify the things.

> >

> > Please have a look at this analysis and correct me wherever I am

> > wrong, so that I can learn from your replies.

> >

> > Kerry-1:-

> > =======

> >

> > I have considered the following birth details of Kerry for this

> analysis:-

> >

> > December 11, 1943

> > Time: 0:21:37

> > Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT)

> > Place: 104 W 49' 53", 39 N 43' 46"

> > Aurora, Colorado, USA

> >

> > From V-Dasa's:-

> > ==============

> > This native is running Sat-Jup-Merc and election date is 2nd Nov

> 2004,

> > so the Merc Pratyantar Dasa will be running during the election

day

> > also.

> >

> > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

> >

> > Sat MD: 1987-03-10 (13:59:32) - 2006-03-10 (4:34:20)

> > Jup AD: 2003-08-27 (21:49:41) - 2006-03-10 (4:34:20)

> > Ket PD: 2004-10-01 (20:45:02) - 2004-11-24 (20:08:38)

> >

> > Interestingly you will notice that, both these natives are running

> > Sat-Jup at the same time.

> >

> > Now here the Jup is 5th and 8th lord placed in Lagna. This Jup is

> > being aspected by Sat and Rahu too. Jup is being aspected by GL by

> > Rasi Drishti. Jup is placed in 4th from Moon. Lagna has A4 and

> Gulika

> > too.

> >

> > Ketu the Pratyantar Dasa Lord is placed in 6th house from Lagna

and

> > also being aspected by Rahu who is placed in 12th house from

lagna

> and

> > Rahu is the 7th lord.

> >

> > Kerry-2:-

> > =======

> > Let us see from my favourite Narayana Dasa point of View:-

> >

> > D-1:-

> > ====

> >

> > The native will be running the following D-1 Narayana Dasa during

> the

> > election time:-

> >

> > Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

> >

> > Ta MD: 2000-12-09 (20:06:01) - 2005-12-10 (1:12:01)

> > Cn AD: 2004-09-09 (11:55:31) - 2005-02-08 (16:21:01)

> > Aq PD: 2004-10-30 (5:24:01) - 2004-11-11 (21:46:09)

> >

> > Native is currenly running Cn Antar Dasa and which is 12th from D-

1

> > Lagn and 3rd from Ta Maha Dasa. Paaka of Cn is Ta which is

nothing

> but

> > the Maha Dasa and it has SL and 4th and 9th lord Mar and 12th lord

> > Moon. Bhoga is SC which has Sun who is the Lagna Lord and A6 also

> > placed there. Rahu is aspecting Sc by Rasi Drishti.

> >

> > Aq Pratyantar Dasa, which is 7th from D-1 lagna, 10th from Ta Maha

> > Dasa and 8th from Cn Antar Dasa. This is again aspected by Rahu.

Its

> > paaka is Cn and its Bhoga is Li and being aspected by Jup,Lagna

(Le)

> > and SL(Ta) by Rashi Drishti.

> >

> > So summary from here is Ta-Cn-Aq is a above average and may give

> success.

> >

> > D-10:-

> > =====

> >

> > The native will be running the following D-10 Narayana Dasa:-

> >

> > Narayana Dasa of D-10 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

> >

> > Sc MD: 2003-12-10 (13:33:37) - 2010-12-10 (6:18:01)

> > Sg AD: 2004-07-10 (14:57:19) - 2005-02-08 (16:21:01)

> > Vi PD: 2004-10-25 (3:39:10) - 2004-11-11 (21:46:09)

> >

> > Sg Antar Dasa is 2nd from Sc Maha Dasa and 11th from D-10 Lagna.

Its

> > Paaka is Vi which is 12th from Sc and 10th from Sg. Its Bhoga is

Pi

> > and which is 6th from Sc and 4th from Sg and 2nd from D-10

Lagna.

> Sg

> > is being aspected by Rahu by Graha Drishti. Sat and Mara both are

> > retro are aspecting Sg rasi by Graha Drishti. But Jup is

aspecting

> Sg

> > by Rasi drishti too.

> >

> > Vi Pratyantar Dasa, which is 12th from Sc Maha Dasa, 10th from Sg

> > antar Dasa and 8th from D-10 lagna.

> >

> > Its paaka is is Pi and which is 6th from Sc and 4th from Sg and

2nd

> > from D-10 Lagna. Its Bhoga is Ge which has Two retro planets Sat

> and

> > Mars. All these are being aspected as we have discussed above.

> >

> > So summary from here is : In my opinion, Sc-Sg-Vi is not very

> promising.

> >

> > Kerry-3:-

> > =======

> >

> > Padanaathaamsa Dasa:-

> > =====================

> > Here I am taking the Padanaathaamsa Dasa and will try to analyse

> > whether there are any indication for his success.

> >

> > Padanaathaamsa Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

> >

> > Le MD: 1996-12-09 (20:49:13) - 2005-12-10 (1:12:01)

> > Cp AD: 2004-06-10 (4:28:13) - 2005-03-11 (2:50:07)

> > Sg PD: 2004-10-25 (3:39:10) - 2004-11-16 (23:31:00)

> >

> > Cp Antar Dasa is 3rd from AL and its lord Sat is placed in 8th

from

> > AL. Cp has Ketu who is a co-lord of AL (Sc) and alos A8 is placed

in

> > Cp. if you look at the Rasi Drishti point of view, Cp is being

> > aspected by Ar (GL is placed ), Cn ( where Rahu and A3 are

placed )

> > and Sc (AL, Sun and A6 are placed).

> >

> > Sg Pratyantar Dasa is 2nd from AL and its lord Jup is placed in

> Lagna

> > and also it is 10th from AL. Lagna has Gulika and A4 placed and

> being

> > aspected by Rahu from Cn by graha drishti. This Rahu is also

> aspecting

> > AL and Cp Antar Dasa too.

> >

> > So I am not seeing much of promise from this Le-Cp-Sg dasa for

his

> success.

> >

> > Kerry-4:-

> > =======

> >

> > Let me take the Tithi Pravesha to verify the above indications and

> > close my analysis with this.

> >

> > Annual T.P:-

> > ===========

> >

> > December 8, 2003

> > Time: 3:41:02

> > Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT)

> > Place: 104 W 49' 53", 39 N 43' 46"

> > Aurora, Colorado, USA

> >

> > Hora Lord is Jup. Jup is 4th and 7th lord and he is placed in 12th

> > house. This is Jup is being aspected by Rahu and Sun (12th Lord)

its

> > dispositor. Not a good indication.

> >

> > Vaara Lord is Sun who is 12th lord and placed in 3rd house being

> > aspected by Jup and Rahu.

> >

> > Lagna is Vi and Natal Lagna is Le, so these two are in 2/12

> relationship ship.

> > Overall the Annual T.P is not very promising.

> >

> > Monthly T.P:-

> > ===========

> >

> > October 9, 2003

> > Time: 14:55:58

> > Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT)

> > Place: 104 W 49' 53", 39 N 43' 46"

> > Aurora, Colorado, USA

> >

> > Hora Lord is again Jup. Jup is 3rd and 12th lord and placed in 8th

> > house and being aspected by Rahu by Graha and Rasi Drishti. Sat is

> > also aspecting Jup by Graha Drishti from Ge.

> >

> > Vaara Lord is Jup, so the above is repeated again.

> >

> > Lagna is Cp and the Natal Lagna is Le, so these two are in 6/8

> > relationship ship. Overall the Monthly T.P is not very promising

> too.

> >

> > Summary of my analysis of the two charts are:

> >

> > In my opinion, I am seeing a positive thing for Bush here, unless

my

> > mind only seeing positive only today. Please review my analysis

and

> > correct me wherever I am not correct.

> >

> > Regards

> > Raghunadha Rao

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

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> >

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> >

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> >

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October 20, 2004

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Namaste Tattvam- Asi,

That was a splendid interpretation based on Rahu's position from 4th house

called Yoni Badha Lagna or simpley YBL.Actually when I analysed both Kerry and

Bush charts using planetary nodes, somehow I missed those points.

Thanks for such a beautiful explanation.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

nameisego <nameisego > wrote: Dear Friends,As promised , self is

posting part II of series in US Presiden's election , as seen thro' HP THEORY

R4 position.Guru Ramadasaji has posted a rejoinder to his prediction based on

R10 position also known as BRL position.In order to demonstrate versatility of

predicting same thing based on Rahu's position, this attemt is made using R4 or

YBL position of Rahu.JOHN KERRYAs posted earlier, many different birth timings

of Johnkerry are there. I proposed that I will discuss Vrischik Lagna of John

Kerry using R4 position (YBL) of Rahu.John

KerryARIES..........YBLTAURUS.........Moon,

MarsGEMINI.........SaturnCANCER.........RahuLEO............JupiterLIBRA..........VenusSCORPIO........Sun..(Natl.Asc)SAGGI..........MercuryCAPRI..........KetuRunning

Mercury-Mercury-Rahu

period What the horoscope means at this juncture?EXPLANATION:If we take R4

position , YBL is Mesha and 4th house lord Moon in 2nd house is with Mars.

Lagna lord and 4th lord in 2nd in exaltation will make him bid for living in an

EXLTED HOUSE known as WHITE HOUSE.This is further confirmed from 9th lord

Jupiter occupying 5th.This is also further confirmed from 5th lord Sun

aspecting this exalted Moon.But whether his dreams will become reality ?The

answer is NO..... a BIG NO.Why ? What are the reasons?He is neither running

Period of Moon, Jupiter or Sun.He is running Budha dasa Budha bhukti.Budha is

lord of two bad houses 3rd and 6th. Budha is occupying 9th house aspected by

Badhakadhipati Sani and 8th lord Mars.Mercury is in Mula Nakshatra with Ketus

of Saturn and Jupiter GUKE and SAKE keeing him company.Mercury in company of

such Ketus will make him a pseudo Idealist

using figures as weapon.Mercury in aspect of Saturn will make him an oscillator

of Ideology changing his stand from time to time to suit his purpose.His Guru

is in 5th as Bhagyadhipathi and Sukhabhagyadhipathi (12TH) .And apart from

being in VM,Guru is fully aspected by Saturn. Thus his Bhagya is attacked by

Sani (Bush) and Rahu (His policy on Iraq and computer /software field)His

change of dasa from Sombre Sani dasa which saw him rise in Politics, just got

over and exactly opposite natured Mercury Dasa in Dhanus Rasi has started.This

changeover will leave him a confused politician,talking glibly.Why talking

glibly???Because Mercury is in 2nd house in his natal chart in Mula

Nakshatra.In YBL, Mercury becomes his Opponent, the 6th lord ... meaning Bush

..As 6th lord , Mercury is well placed in 9th aspected by 9th lord Jupiter.Same

Mercury is aspected by Satun and Mars.Thus making his

opponent MORE CRUEL AND POWERFUL THAN HIMSELF.Thus in Tug of war, he will

lose.There can be some more arguements put forth against his hope to win US

president's seat.But this should suffice.When undersigned made a prediction

many months back while discussing Kala sarpa yoga analysis as seen through HP

Theory,which is present in George Bush's chart,it was observed that he will

become next president of USA.(Fortune favours not so intelligents)Same thing is

being repeated ,If findings of self as seen thro HP Theory hold true in this

win/lose situation, "JOHN KERRY WILL LOSE THIS ELECTION EVEN BEFORE THE VOTE BY

AMERICANS ARE CAST.HIS BHAGYA WILL DESERT HIM AT LAST MOMENT LIKE KARNA LOSING

HIS KAVACH IN THE BATTLE GROUND.Then Krishna (Kaal or Rahu) had shown the way,

here Mlechhas /Terrorists /Fundamentalists and Computer jobs/professionals and

his war response on all battle grounds ,will

directly or indirectly see to his fall from public eye."Women , southern states

and Western states would go against

him.Tatvam-Asi----

In vedic astrology, "nameisego" wrote:> > > Hello Friends,> > HP

Theory is now on anvil and is being tested for its usefulness and > simplicity.>

Atmasnehi Guru Ramadasa has been using it very effectively in > analysing

charts.This is another attempt by self using R4 or YBL > position of Rahu. Some

startling things might happen during Kataka > sojourn of Saturn.> Today, self is

posting the first of the three parts of US election > analysis.> > Most of the

astrologers and learned Gurus have given their readings > on "THE GREAT

FIGHT"between John Kerry and G.W Bush.> And predictably everyone except

Guru Ramadasa has predicted Kerry to > carry forward the star spangled banner

for the next four years.> Self is but a sudent of astrology trying to establish

a new system of > prediction based on Rahu centric HP theory.> > Ramadasa ji had

predicted Bush to win based on Simha Lagna for John > Kerry and usual Kataka

Lagna for George Bush.> Many more birth timings of Kerry has surfaced giving

Vrischik Lagna > and so on .> The beauty of HP system is that it is not so

sensitive to time > changes as long as Moon remains in the same rasi.> So ,

since Ramadasaji has given his predictions based on R10 position > called BRL ,

> in order to show that HP system can use any position of Rahu in R4, > R1 ,R10

> to predict the even with same result.> > As per HP, 4th house denotes

Service. > President of USA is a paid servent .> Hence that is one reason,

self is using R4 position of Rahu and the > second reason is, R4 stands for

Living quarters of the person and is > a sensitive point on that count.> Third

most important reason to select R4 position is , Saturn's > ingress in Kataka

Rasi which is Rahu's favourit place as per HP > theory.> So the reading given

is based on R4 postion and the lagna of Kerry > taken for prediction is

Vrischik .> > George W Bush' chart as per R4 position with Rahu in 4th house

will > be as follows.> > AQUARIUS.............Ascendent (YBL)> CANCER

...............Natal Asc.> TAURUS...............Rahu> CANCER...............Sat,

Ven, Merc> LEO..................Mars> VIRGO................Jup,Moon>

SCORPIO..............Ketu> Dasa ................Sat-Jup-Venus> > Salient points

of the horoscopes are as follows.> He has a very strong 6th house placement of

Saturn> Mars is his Parakramadhipati in 7th > And lord of 6th Moon in 8th

aspected by Saturn.> Venus is his 4th and 9th lord is with Lagnadhipati and 5th

lord > Mercury in 6th.> Sun, the 7th lord in 5th in VM.> > What this means ?> It

means, he will use every trick available to him to win this > election.> As his

opponent is in VM sign and his 3rd lord Mars is in 7th,> He will completely

overpower his opponent as the fight progresses.> > Decisive help will come from

Rahu which aspects his 7th house > with reverse aspect which has Mars in Leo in

it.> > A SURPRISE IN THE FORM OF MAY BE OSAMA BIN LADEN'S CAPTURE > or an

Attack by so called FUNDAMENTALISTS and George Bush's actions > there of would

swing the scales in his favour.> > What prompts for such deduction?> Kataka

Rasi transit of Saturn is a direct attack by Saturn > on most

preferred place of Rahu , which is 4th sign/4th house> > His (Prez Bush's)

domain is over most Americans who are not bothered > about foreign policy . >

The only language they know is Gun and the only problems they > understand are

> problems of local issues to their world.(America).> > Intelligentia are a

minority spread in east and west coast but rest > of America > is a playground

for people like Bush . These voters would rather > watch a football game than >

hear political speeches by Kerry and Bush.> Virginians would prefer to hear

about Christianity and war than > foreign policy.> > Hence He will again raise

the bogie of satanic forces out to destroy > America in next 30 days .> Or

produce/attack Osama Bi Laden or something more explosive > happening in Middle

east and > create an opportunity to show his strong arm to the American

public .> > To be contd....> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao > wrote:> > ---------- Forwarded

message ----------> > Ramadas Rao > > Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:06:41

+0100 (BST)> > Fwd: Re: My analysis on the two Presidential

candidates> > ramadasrao@g...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Note:

forwarded message attached.> > > > India Matrimony: Find your life

partner online. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------> >

Ramadas Rao > > Rao Nemani > > Sun, 26 Sep 2004 20:16:59 +0100 (BST)>

>

Re: My analysis on the two Presidential candidates> > > > > > > > `

nmae naray[ay,> > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > > Dear Rao,> > > > I had gone

through your analysis of both charts and I would like to> > comment on my part

through HP Rahu's Centric Theory.> > > > Now what is Rahu Centric Theory ? Rahu

is a badhaka for one's Karma > as> > 10th is between 9th and 11th.9th is Bhagya

Sthana and 11th is Labha> > Shana.Rahu is the planet of Maya or Illusion and he

makes us false> > promises.Rahu works like Shani,so he casts aspects like Shani>

> ie.,3rd,7th and 10th house.Now Rahu is also Serpent.A serpent widens> > its

mouth about 3 times to swallow its prey.Similarly as Rahu is > also> > a

Serpent,the houses before and next to Rahu also have the poisons

> of> > Rahu and hence these 2 houses are called Visha Mukha planets and any> >

planets there are called Visha Mukha planets.They give only evil> > results.The

same results can be had from Ketu and the 2 houses > before> > and next to

Ketu.Now using these principles let me analyse the > charts> > of both

presdient contestants in USA.> > > > Now let me analyse 1st the chart of George

Bush.As per his chart,the> > natal Lagna is Kataka with Rahu in 11th house.Now

considering Rahu > in> > 10th house, count the houses backwards and we get

Simha as Badha > Rahu> > Lagna or BRL.So Shani becomes 6th and 7th lord, Guru

becomes 5th and> > 8th lord,Chandra becomes 12th lord.Shukra is 3rd and 10th

lord and > is> > the lord of sign occupied by Rahu.Now 12th from BRl, we have

Budha ,> > Shukra and Shani

..Kuja is in BRL.Now during Shani -Rahu between> > 10-12-1999 and 1-10-2002 (

using 360 days per year ) Bush won the> > elections and became the President of

America.here the reason was> > Shani being 6th lord placed in 12th along with

Shukra,the 3rd lord > and> > 10th lord aspected by Rahu gave him powers due to

Vipareetha Raja> > Yoga.Now Shani - Guru is running from 01/10/2002 to >

31/03/2005.During> > the time of elections,Kuja's Pratyanatara is running from

22/09/2004> > to 14/11/2004.Kuja is the 4th and 9th lord from BRL placed in> >

Lagna.Guru is 5th and 8th lord placed in 2nd house, along with> > Chandra.Here

again both Guru and Chandra form Vipareetha raja > Yoga.Now> > Mesha becomes AL

for BRL Simha and Kuja becomes the lord of AL from> > this BRL and is aspected

by Rahu by his backwards 10th aspect.dasha> > Lord Shani

aspects the Antar Dasha lord Guru and Shani's sign> > dispositor Chandra

also.Shani also aspects AL from BRL.So > considering> > all these points, it

can be deduced that George Bush will again win > in> > the next elections and

become the President of USA.Also Guru in> > transit crosses over his Natal Guru

and aspects natal Rahu and all> > these indicate his gain in the elections

again.> > > > Now coming to Kerry's chart, his natal Lagna is Simha with Guru

in> > that indicating he is a truthful person and dont know how to> >

manipulate things with common man.Here badha Rahu Lagna will be Tula> > where

its lord Shukra himself is there.Here Shani (V) is occupied > 12th> > from rahu

indicating he is a Visha Mukha planet.Similarly Guru is in> > 2nd to Rahu

indicating another Visha Mukha Planet.Shani is a Yoga> > Karaka for

this BRL Tula but Guru becomes a malefic being the lord > of> > 3rd and 6th from

BRL.Pratyanatara dasha lord Kuja is 7th and 2nd > lord> > placed in 8th along

with Chandra indicating mass or people.At the > time> > of elections,Shani-

Guru-Kuja is running from 09/10/2004 to> > 02/12/2004.As explained above Shani

and Guru are Visha Mukha planets> > and Kuja is in 8th from BRL along with

Chandra who is the sign> > dispositor for Rahu ,all indicate his failure in the

US Presidential> > elections.> > > > I hope this helps you.> > > > With Shri

Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > Rao Nemani

wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna> > > > Namaste Guru Ji,> > >

> Here are the two messages, I have posted in VA list Y'day. Please > go> > thru

my anlaysis and give your guidance. I have used a different > birth> > details

of Kerry's, which are publicly available as this was given > to> > me by Sat

Siri Khalsa Ji, in turn she got it directly from Kerry> > himself.> > > >

Regards> > Raghunatha Rao> > > > ----- First Message 44598 ----> > > > > > > >

Hare Rama Krishna> > > > Namaste Gurus and Learned Members,> > > > Today, I

have attempted to see on a very focused way of 2004 > upcoming> > Presidential

Candidates (two native Bush and Kerry) charts. As > usual,> > I applied few

different methods to see the result, so that I could> > verify the things.> > >

> Please have a look at this

analysis and correct me wherever I am> > wrong, so that I can learn from your

replies.> > > > Bush-1:-> > =======> > > > I have considered the following

birth details of Bush for this > analysis:-> > > > July 6, 1946> > Time:

7:27:00> > Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT)> > Place: 72 W 55' 43", 41 N 18'

29"> > New Haven, Connecticut, USA> > > > From V-Dasa's:-> > ==============> >

This native is running Sat-Jup-Merc and election date is 2nd Nov > 2004,> > so

the Merc Pratyantar Dasa will be running during the election day> > also.> > >

> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):> > > > Sat MD: 1987-05-14 (8:58:50) -

2006-05-13 (23:33:38)> > Jup AD: 2003-10-31 (16:48:59) - 2006-05-13 (23:33:38)>

> Merc PD: 2004-07-27 (13:47:01) -

2004-12-05 (15:44:20)> > > > Here the Jup is 6th and 9th lord placed in 3rd

house with Lagna Lord> > Moon and being aspected by Rahu, who is 8th co-lord

placed in 11th> > house.> > > > Merc is the 3rd and 12th lord placed in Lagna

with 4th and 11th > lord> > Venus along with 7th and 8th Lord Saturn. Lagna

also have Mandi and> > SL. Cn is being aspcted by Rahu, A3 ( From Ta) and

Ketu,GL and AL > from> > Sc and A5 from 8th house Aq too.> > > > Bush-2:-> >

=======> > Let us see from my favourite Narayana Dasa point of View:-> > > >

D-1:-> > ====> > > > The native will be running the following D-1 Narayana Dasa

during > the> > election time:-> > > > Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile

phalita rasi dasa):> > > > Pi MD: 2000-07-05

(9:43:48) - 2006-07-05 (20:39:00)> > Sc AD: 2004-07-05 (9:00:36) - 2005-01-03

(23:55:12)> > Cp PD: 2004-10-19 (21:42:27) - 2004-11-04 (2:57:00)> > > > Sc

Antar Dasa is in 5th house with GL and AL. Ketu the Antar Dasa> > co-lord is

placed in Antar Dasa it self and the Mars the other Lord> > placed in Le with

HL. Sc is 9th from the Pi Dasa Rasi too.> > > > Cp Pratyantar Dasa is 7th from

lagna and 10th from Pi Dasa and 3rd> > from Sc Antar Dasa. Cp Lord Sat is

placed in Lagna and aspcting the > Sc> > and also aspecting the Cp rasi too.

Here you will notice that GL and> > SL are mutually aspecting. Bhoga of Cp is

Li and having argala from > Le> > where Mar (Sc Antar Dasa's Lord) and HL is

placed there. So with > this> > I can see a connection between GL,SL and HL on

Cp's Bhoga and this > is> > a very

good indication to be successful in his election.> > > > > > So summary from

here is Sc-Cn-Ar is a potentially good for his > success.> > > > D-10:-> >

=====> > > > The native will be running the following D-10 Narayana Dasa:-> > >

> Narayana Dasa of D-10 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):> > > > Cp MD:

2004-07-05 (9:00:36) - 2008-07-05 (8:17:24)> > Ar AD: 2004-07-05 (9:00:36) -

2004-11-04 (2:57:00)> > Sg PD: 2004-10-24 (23:27:18) - 2004-11-04 (2:57:00)> >

> > Cp Maha Dasa which is 7th from D-10 Lagna and its Paaka is Ar and > its> >

Bhoga is also Ar. Antar Dasa Ar is 10th from D-10 Lagna and 4th from> > Cp Maha

Dasa. Its Paaka is placed in Cp ( maha dasa sign) along with> > Jup who is 6th

and 9th lord ). Cp is being aspected by AL from Ta. > Its> >

Bhoga D-10 Lagna itself and being aspected by HL from Aq. D-10 Lagna> > have

A10, A3 and A11 too.> > > > Now let us see the Sg Pratynar Dasa. Sg is 6th

house from D-10 and > it> > is 12th from Maha Dasa and 9th from Ar Antar Dasa.

Sg has D-10 Lagna> > Lord moon, 2nd lord Sun and 3rd and 11th lord Venus along

with GL > and> > Gulika.> > Sg's Paaka is Cp which is nothing but Maha Dasa

itself and its Bhoga> > is Aq which has HL and A6 and A4 in it. This Aq is

aspecting Ar > where> > its own lord Sat is placed, also aspecting Li where SL

is placed and> > lastly aspecting the D-10 Lagna too.> > So this is a very good

combination too.> > > > Bush-3:-> > =======> > > > Padanaathaamsa Dasa:-> >

=====================> > Here I am taking the Padanaathaamsa Dasa and will try

to analyse> > whether there are any indication for his success.> > > >

Padanaathaamsa Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):> > > > Li MD:

1998-07-05 (22:05:24) - 2007-07-06 (2:28:12)> > Ar AD: 2004-07-05 (9:00:36) -

2005-04-05 (7:22:30)> > Cp PD: 2004-10-27 (12:19:43) - 2004-11-19 (8:11:33)> >

> > Ar Antar Dasa which is 6th from AL and its paaka is Le which is 10th> >

from AL. AL's lord Mars is placed in Le which is nothing but the > Ar's> >

paaka lagna and HL is also placed there. You will also notice that > HL.> >

This Mars is aspecting AL and GL too.> > > > Now Cp Pratyantar Dasa is 3rd from

AL and its Paaka is D-1 Lagna and> > this is placed in 9th from AL itself. You

will also notice that Sc> > where AL is placed is aspecting Cp ( Pratyantar

Dasa), Ar (Antar > Dasa)>

> and Cn (D-1 lagna along with SL) by Rasi Drishti, which is > connecting> > all

the dasa and GL and SL too.> > So this is also indicating a good time ahead.> >

> > Bush-4:-> > =======> > > > Let me take the Tithi Pravesha to verify the

above indications and> > close my analysis with this.> > > > Annual T.P:-> >

===========> > June 25, 2004> > Time: 20:52:13> > Time Zone: 4:00:00

(West of GMT)> > Place: 72 W 55' 43", 41 N 18' 29"> > New Haven, Connecticut,

USA> > > > Here the Hora Lord is Merc and he is 7th and 10th lord placed in

7th> > house which is its own house along with 9th lord Sun and 2nd and 3rd> >

lord Sat, so that is good. Merc is aspecting lagna too. Gulika and> > Mandi are

placed in Pi and HL and Moon are placed in vi are >

aspecting> > Lagna and Hora Lord too. Jup is aspecting Lagna by Graha Drishti.>

> > > Lagna is placed in 6/8 with the Natal Lagna which is not a very > good

indication.> > > > Vaara Lord is Venus (Vakra), who is 6th and 11th lord placed

in its> > own house in Ta.> > > > Monthly T.P:-> > ===========> > October

20, 2004> > Time: 23:20:18> > Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT)> > Place: 72 W

55' 43", 41 N 18' 29"> > New Haven, Connecticut, USA> > > > Here the Hora Lord

is Sat and he is 7th and 8th lord placed in > Lagna,> > so that is good. Moon

and Sat has Parivartana hence Moon behaves > like> > as if it is in itw own

house in Lagna too. This combination is being> > aspected by GL and HL from Aq

by Rasi Drishti. Sat is aspecting 10th> > house where SL,

AL and Rahu are placed.> > > > Lagna is Cn which is same as the Natal Lagna

which is very good > indication.> > > > Vaara Lord is Merc, who is 3rd and 12th

Lord Placed in 4th house > with> > 2nd lord Sun and 5th co-lord Ketu.> > > > Now

looking at the Tithi Astottari Dasa:> > > > Tithi Ashtottari Dasa of Janma tithi

(useful especially in Tithi> > Pravesha charts):> > > > Maha Dasas:> > > > Rah:

2004-10-18 (17:27:26) - 2004-10-21 (18:08:25)> > Ven: 2004-10-21 (18:08:25) -

2004-10-27 (9:10:32)=== message truncated ===

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October 20, 2004

Dear Astrolgers,

I was reading your predictions several times and got some some

confusions as mentioned below. I am still trying to understand your

techniques here:

> > Now let me analyse 1st the chart of George Bush.As per his

chart,the

> > natal Lagna is Kataka with Rahu in 11th house.Now considering

Rahu

> in

> > 10th house, count the houses backwards and we get Simha as Badha

> Rahu

> > Lagna or BRL.So Shani becomes 6th and 7th lord, Guru becomes 5th

and

> > 8th lord,Chandra becomes 12th lord.Shukra is 3rd and 10th lord

and

> is

> > the lord of sign occupied by Rahu.Now 12th from BRl, we have

Budha ,

> > Shukra and Shani .Kuja is in BRL.Now during Shani -Rahu between

> > 10-12-1999 and 1-10-2002 ( using 360 days per year ) Bush won the

> > elections and became the President of America.here the reason was

> > Shani being 6th lord placed in 12th along with Shukra,the 3rd

lord

> and

> > 10th lord aspected by Rahu gave him powers due to Vipareetha Raja

> > Yoga.Now Shani - Guru is running from 01/10/2002 to

> 31/03/2005.During

> > the time of elections,Kuja's Pratyanatara is running from

22/09/2004

> > to 14/11/2004.Kuja is the 4th and 9th lord from BRL placed in

> > Lagna.Guru is 5th and 8th lord placed in 2nd house, along with

> > Chandra.Here again both Guru and Chandra form Vipareetha raja

> Yoga.Now

> > Mesha becomes AL for BRL Simha and Kuja becomes the lord of AL

from

> > this BRL and is aspected by Rahu by his backwards 10th

aspect.dasha

> > Lord Shani aspects the Antar Dasha lord Guru and Shani's sign

> > dispositor Chandra also.Shani also aspects AL from BRL.So

> considering

> > all these points, it can be deduced that George Bush will again

win

> in

> > the next elections and become the President of USA.Also Guru in

> > transit crosses over his Natal Guru and aspects natal Rahu and all

> > these indicate his gain in the elections again.

Questions: 1. Are Shani's aspects considered Benfic in this case or

are they considered benfic because Shani is Dasha Lord?

2. Are Rahu's aspects considered benefic in this Rahu Centric Theory?

Are you applying rahu's aspects in anti-clockwise manner? When Rahu

causes posionous effects, then how come Rahu's aspects are considered

powerful as mentioned above?

3. What exactly is this rahu centric theory? What are the critical

combinations which can generate power and finances when Rahu itself

is causing poisonous effects on 9th and 11th house, with Rahu being

considered as planet in 10th house? Howcome the Lords of 2nd and 12th

from rahu's position free from rahu's effects when the rashi's lorded

by them have become poisonous? Its hard to understand all this form

your examples, when the rules are not clear here. Seems to me that

this rahu centric theory can be easily manipulated anyway and in any

direction convenient to the astrologer or prehaps i cannot understand

it at all.

How does AL fit in here when there is new lagna called BRL introduced

here?

Thanks and Regards..rmk.

vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao>

wrote:

>

> ` nmae naray[ay,

>

> om namo näräyaëäya|

>

> Namaste Tattvam- Asi,

>

> That was a splendid interpretation based on Rahu's position from

4th house called Yoni Badha Lagna or simpley YBL.Actually when I

analysed both Kerry and Bush charts using planetary nodes, somehow I

missed those points.

>

> Thanks for such a beautiful explanation.

>

> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

>

> Ramadas Rao.

>

> nameisego <nameisego> wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

> As promised , self is posting part II of series in US Presiden's

> election , as seen thro' HP THEORY R4 position.

> Guru Ramadasaji has posted a rejoinder to his prediction based on

R10

> position also known as BRL position.

> In order to demonstrate versatility of predicting same thing based

on

> Rahu's position, this attemt is made using R4 or YBL position of

Rahu.

>

> JOHN KERRY

> As posted earlier, many different birth timings of John

> kerry are there. I proposed that I will discuss Vrischik

> Lagna of John Kerry using R4 position (YBL) of Rahu.

> John Kerry

>

> ARIES..........YBL

> TAURUS.........Moon, Mars

> GEMINI.........Saturn

> CANCER.........Rahu

> LEO............Jupiter

> LIBRA..........Venus

> SCORPIO........Sun..(Natl.Asc)

> SAGGI..........Mercury

> CAPRI..........Ketu

>

> Running Mercury-Mercury-Rahu period

>

> What the horoscope means at this juncture?

>

> EXPLANATION:

> If we take R4 position , YBL is Mesha and 4th house

> lord Moon in 2nd house is with Mars.

>

> Lagna lord and 4th lord in 2nd in exaltation will make him bid

> for living in an EXLTED HOUSE known as WHITE HOUSE.

>

> This is further confirmed from 9th lord Jupiter occupying 5th.

> This is also further confirmed from 5th lord Sun aspecting this

> exalted Moon.

>

> But whether his dreams will become reality ?

> The answer is NO..... a BIG NO.

> Why ? What are the reasons?

>

> He is neither running Period of Moon, Jupiter or Sun.

> He is running Budha dasa Budha bhukti.

> Budha is lord of two bad houses 3rd and 6th.

> Budha is occupying 9th house aspected by Badhakadhipati Sani and

8th

> lord Mars.

>

> Mercury is in Mula Nakshatra with Ketus of Saturn and Jupiter GUKE

> and SAKE keeing him company.

>

> Mercury in company of such Ketus will make him a pseudo Idealist

> using figures as weapon.

>

> Mercury in aspect of Saturn will make him an oscillator of Ideology

> changing

> his stand from time to time to suit his purpose.

>

> His Guru is in 5th as Bhagyadhipathi and Sukhabhagyadhipathi

(12TH) .

> And apart from being in VM,Guru is fully aspected by Saturn. Thus

his

> Bhagya is attacked by Sani (Bush)

> and Rahu (His policy on Iraq and computer /software field)

>

> His change of dasa from Sombre Sani dasa which saw him rise in

> Politics, just got over and exactly opposite natured Mercury Dasa

> in Dhanus Rasi has started.

>

> This changeover will leave him a confused politician,talking glibly.

> Why talking glibly???

>

> Because Mercury is in 2nd house in his natal chart in Mula

Nakshatra.

>

> In YBL, Mercury becomes his Opponent, the 6th lord ... meaning

Bush .

> As 6th lord , Mercury is well placed in 9th aspected by 9th lord

> Jupiter.

> Same Mercury is aspected by Satun and Mars.Thus making his

> opponent MORE CRUEL AND POWERFUL THAN HIMSELF.Thus in Tug of war,

he

> will lose.

>

> There can be some more arguements put forth against his hope to win

> US president's seat.

>

> But this should suffice.

>

> When undersigned made a prediction many months back while

discussing

> Kala sarpa yoga analysis as seen through HP Theory,which is present

> in George Bush's chart,

> it was observed that he will become next president of USA.(Fortune

> favours not so intelligents)

> Same thing is being repeated ,

> If findings of self as seen thro HP Theory hold true in this

win/lose

> situation,

>

> "JOHN KERRY WILL LOSE THIS ELECTION EVEN BEFORE THE VOTE BY

AMERICANS

> ARE CAST.

> HIS BHAGYA WILL DESERT HIM AT LAST MOMENT LIKE KARNA LOSING HIS

> KAVACH IN THE BATTLE GROUND.

> Then Krishna (Kaal or Rahu) had shown the way, here

> Mlechhas /Terrorists /Fundamentalists and Computer

jobs/professionals

> and his war response on all battle grounds ,will directly or

> indirectly see to his fall from public eye."

>

> Women , southern states and Western states would go against him.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> -

>

> vedic astrology, "nameisego"

> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Friends,

> >

> > HP Theory is now on anvil and is being tested for its usefulness

> and

> > simplicity.

> > Atmasnehi Guru Ramadasa has been using it very effectively in

> > analysing charts.This is another attempt by self using R4 or YBL

> > position of Rahu. Some startling things might happen during

Kataka

> > sojourn of Saturn.

> > Today, self is posting the first of the three parts of US

election

> > analysis.

> >

> > Most of the astrologers and learned Gurus have given their

readings

> > on "THE GREAT FIGHT"between John Kerry and G.W Bush.

> > And predictably everyone except Guru Ramadasa has predicted Kerry

> to

> > carry forward the star spangled banner for the next four years.

> > Self is but a sudent of astrology trying to establish a new

system

> of

> > prediction based on Rahu centric HP theory.

> >

> > Ramadasa ji had predicted Bush to win based on Simha Lagna for

John

> > Kerry and usual Kataka Lagna for George Bush.

> > Many more birth timings of Kerry has surfaced giving Vrischik

Lagna

> > and so on .

> > The beauty of HP system is that it is not so sensitive to time

> > changes as long as Moon remains in the same rasi.

> > So , since Ramadasaji has given his predictions based on R10

> position

> > called BRL ,

> > in order to show that HP system can use any position of Rahu in

R4,

> > R1 ,R10

> > to predict the even with same result.

> >

> > As per HP, 4th house denotes Service.

> > President of USA is a paid servent .

> > Hence that is one reason, self is using R4 position of Rahu and

the

> > second reason is, R4 stands for Living quarters of the person and

> is

> > a sensitive point on that count.

> > Third most important reason to select R4 position is , Saturn's

> > ingress in Kataka Rasi which is Rahu's favourit place as per HP

> > theory.

> > So the reading given is based on R4 postion and the lagna of

Kerry

> > taken for prediction is Vrischik .

> >

> > George W Bush' chart as per R4 position with Rahu in 4th house

will

> > be as follows.

> >

> > AQUARIUS.............Ascendent (YBL)

> > CANCER ..............Natal Asc.

> > TAURUS...............Rahu

> > CANCER...............Sat, Ven, Merc

> > LEO..................Mars

> > VIRGO................Jup,Moon

> > SCORPIO..............Ketu

> > Dasa ................Sat-Jup-Venus

> >

> > Salient points of the horoscopes are as follows.

> > He has a very strong 6th house placement of Saturn

> > Mars is his Parakramadhipati in 7th

> > And lord of 6th Moon in 8th aspected by Saturn.

> > Venus is his 4th and 9th lord is with Lagnadhipati and 5th lord

> > Mercury in 6th.

> > Sun, the 7th lord in 5th in VM.

> >

> > What this means ?

> > It means, he will use every trick available to him to win this

> > election.

> > As his opponent is in VM sign and his 3rd lord Mars is in 7th,

> > He will completely overpower his opponent as the fight progresses.

> >

> > Decisive help will come from Rahu which aspects his 7th house

> > with reverse aspect which has Mars in Leo in it.

> >

> > A SURPRISE IN THE FORM OF MAY BE OSAMA BIN LADEN'S CAPTURE

> > or an Attack by so called FUNDAMENTALISTS and George Bush's

actions

> > there of would swing the scales in his favour.

> >

> > What prompts for such deduction?

> > Kataka Rasi transit of Saturn is a direct attack by Saturn

> > on most preferred place of Rahu , which is 4th sign/4th house

> >

> > His (Prez Bush's) domain is over most Americans who are not

> bothered

> > about foreign policy .

> > The only language they know is Gun and the only problems they

> > understand are

> > problems of local issues to their world.(America).

> >

> > Intelligentia are a minority spread in east and west coast but

rest

> > of America

> > is a playground for people like Bush . These voters would rather

> > watch a football game than

> > hear political speeches by Kerry and Bush.

> > Virginians would prefer to hear about Christianity and war than

> > foreign policy.

> >

> > Hence He will again raise the bogie of satanic forces out to

> destroy

> > America in next 30 days .

> > Or produce/attack Osama Bi Laden or something more explosive

> > happening in Middle east and

> > create an opportunity to show his strong arm to the American

> public .

> >

> > To be contd....

> >

> > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

>

> > wrote:

> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------

> > > Ramadas Rao

> > > Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:06:41 +0100 (BST)

> > > Fwd: Re: My analysis on the two Presidential candidates

> > > ramadasrao@g...

> > >

> > > Note: forwarded message attached.

> > >

> > > India Matrimony: Find your life partner online.

> > >

> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------

> > > Ramadas Rao

> > > Rao Nemani

> > > Sun, 26 Sep 2004 20:16:59 +0100 (BST)

> > > Re: My analysis on the two Presidential candidates

> > >

> > > ` nmae naray[ay,

> > >

> > > om namo näräyaëäya|

> > >

> > > Dear Rao,

> > >

> > > I had gone through your analysis of both charts and I would

like

> to

> > > comment on my part through HP Rahu's Centric Theory.

> > >

> > > Now what is Rahu Centric Theory ? Rahu is a badhaka for one's

> Karma

> > as

> > > 10th is between 9th and 11th.9th is Bhagya Sthana and 11th is

> Labha

> > > Shana.Rahu is the planet of Maya or Illusion and he makes us

false

> > > promises.Rahu works like Shani,so he casts aspects like Shani

> > > ie.,3rd,7th and 10th house.Now Rahu is also Serpent.A serpent

> widens

> > > its mouth about 3 times to swallow its prey.Similarly as Rahu

is

> > also

> > > a Serpent,the houses before and next to Rahu also have the

> poisons

> > of

> > > Rahu and hence these 2 houses are called Visha Mukha planets

and

> any

> > > planets there are called Visha Mukha planets.They give only evil

> > > results.The same results can be had from Ketu and the 2 houses

> > before

> > > and next to Ketu.Now using these principles let me analyse the

> > charts

> > > of both presdient contestants in USA.

> > >

> > > Now let me analyse 1st the chart of George Bush.As per his

> chart,the

> > > natal Lagna is Kataka with Rahu in 11th house.Now considering

> Rahu

> > in

> > > 10th house, count the houses backwards and we get Simha as

Badha

> > Rahu

> > > Lagna or BRL.So Shani becomes 6th and 7th lord, Guru becomes

5th

> and

> > > 8th lord,Chandra becomes 12th lord.Shukra is 3rd and 10th lord

> and

> > is

> > > the lord of sign occupied by Rahu.Now 12th from BRl, we have

> Budha ,

> > > Shukra and Shani .Kuja is in BRL.Now during Shani -Rahu between

> > > 10-12-1999 and 1-10-2002 ( using 360 days per year ) Bush won

the

> > > elections and became the President of America.here the reason

was

> > > Shani being 6th lord placed in 12th along with Shukra,the 3rd

> lord

> > and

> > > 10th lord aspected by Rahu gave him powers due to Vipareetha

Raja

> > > Yoga.Now Shani - Guru is running from 01/10/2002 to

> > 31/03/2005.During

> > > the time of elections,Kuja's Pratyanatara is running from

> 22/09/2004

> > > to 14/11/2004.Kuja is the 4th and 9th lord from BRL placed in

> > > Lagna.Guru is 5th and 8th lord placed in 2nd house, along with

> > > Chandra.Here again both Guru and Chandra form Vipareetha raja

> > Yoga.Now

> > > Mesha becomes AL for BRL Simha and Kuja becomes the lord of AL

> from

> > > this BRL and is aspected by Rahu by his backwards 10th

> aspect.dasha

> > > Lord Shani aspects the Antar Dasha lord Guru and Shani's sign

> > > dispositor Chandra also.Shani also aspects AL from BRL.So

> > considering

> > > all these points, it can be deduced that George Bush will again

> win

> > in

> > > the next elections and become the President of USA.Also Guru in

> > > transit crosses over his Natal Guru and aspects natal Rahu and

all

> > > these indicate his gain in the elections again.

> > >

> > > Now coming to Kerry's chart, his natal Lagna is Simha with Guru

in

> > > that indicating he is a truthful person and dont know how to

> > > manipulate things with common man.Here badha Rahu Lagna will be

> Tula

> > > where its lord Shukra himself is there.Here Shani (V) is

occupied

> > 12th

> > > from rahu indicating he is a Visha Mukha planet.Similarly Guru

is

> in

> > > 2nd to Rahu indicating another Visha Mukha Planet.Shani is a

Yoga

> > > Karaka for this BRL Tula but Guru becomes a malefic being the

> lord

> > of

> > > 3rd and 6th from BRL.Pratyanatara dasha lord Kuja is 7th and

2nd

> > lord

> > > placed in 8th along with Chandra indicating mass or people.At

the

> > time

> > > of elections,Shani- Guru-Kuja is running from 09/10/2004 to

> > > 02/12/2004.As explained above Shani and Guru are Visha Mukha

> planets

> > > and Kuja is in 8th from BRL along with Chandra who is the sign

> > > dispositor for Rahu ,all indicate his failure in the US

> Presidential

> > > elections.

> > >

> > > I hope this helps you.

> > >

> > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> > >

> > > Ramadas Rao.

> > >

> > > Rao Nemani wrote:

> > >

> > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > >

> > > Namaste Guru Ji,

> > >

> > > Here are the two messages, I have posted in VA list Y'day.

> Please

> > go

> > > thru my anlaysis and give your guidance. I have used a

different

> > birth

> > > details of Kerry's, which are publicly available as this was

> given

> > to

> > > me by Sat Siri Khalsa Ji, in turn she got it directly from Kerry

> > > himself.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Raghunatha Rao

> > >

> > > ----- First Message 44598 ----

> > >

> > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > >

> > > Namaste Gurus and Learned Members,

> > >

> > > Today, I have attempted to see on a very focused way of 2004

> > upcoming

> > > Presidential Candidates (two native Bush and Kerry) charts. As

> > usual,

> > > I applied few different methods to see the result, so that I

could

> > > verify the things.

> > >

> > > Please have a look at this analysis and correct me wherever I am

> > > wrong, so that I can learn from your replies.

> > >

> > > Bush-1:-

> > > =======

> > >

> > > I have considered the following birth details of Bush for this

> > analysis:-

> > >

> > > July 6, 1946

> > > Time: 7:27:00

> > > Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT)

> > > Place: 72 W 55' 43", 41 N 18' 29"

> > > New Haven, Connecticut, USA

> > >

> > > From V-Dasa's:-

> > > ==============

> > > This native is running Sat-Jup-Merc and election date is 2nd

Nov

> > 2004,

> > > so the Merc Pratyantar Dasa will be running during the election

> day

> > > also.

> > >

> > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

> > >

> > > Sat MD: 1987-05-14 (8:58:50) - 2006-05-13 (23:33:38)

> > > Jup AD: 2003-10-31 (16:48:59) - 2006-05-13 (23:33:38)

> > > Merc PD: 2004-07-27 (13:47:01) - 2004-12-05 (15:44:20)

> > >

> > > Here the Jup is 6th and 9th lord placed in 3rd house with Lagna

> Lord

> > > Moon and being aspected by Rahu, who is 8th co-lord placed in

11th

> > > house.

> > >

> > > Merc is the 3rd and 12th lord placed in Lagna with 4th and 11th

> > lord

> > > Venus along with 7th and 8th Lord Saturn. Lagna also have Mandi

> and

> > > SL. Cn is being aspcted by Rahu, A3 ( From Ta) and Ketu,GL and

AL

> > from

> > > Sc and A5 from 8th house Aq too.

> > >

> > > Bush-2:-

> > > =======

> > > Let us see from my favourite Narayana Dasa point of View:-

> > >

> > > D-1:-

> > > ====

> > >

> > > The native will be running the following D-1 Narayana Dasa

during

> > the

> > > election time:-

> > >

> > > Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

> > >

> > > Pi MD: 2000-07-05 (9:43:48) - 2006-07-05 (20:39:00)

> > > Sc AD: 2004-07-05 (9:00:36) - 2005-01-03 (23:55:12)

> > > Cp PD: 2004-10-19 (21:42:27) - 2004-11-04 (2:57:00)

> > >

> > > Sc Antar Dasa is in 5th house with GL and AL. Ketu the Antar

Dasa

> > > co-lord is placed in Antar Dasa it self and the Mars the other

> Lord

> > > placed in Le with HL. Sc is 9th from the Pi Dasa Rasi too.

> > >

> > > Cp Pratyantar Dasa is 7th from lagna and 10th from Pi Dasa and

3rd

> > > from Sc Antar Dasa. Cp Lord Sat is placed in Lagna and aspcting

> the

> > Sc

> > > and also aspecting the Cp rasi too. Here you will notice that

GL

> and

> > > SL are mutually aspecting. Bhoga of Cp is Li and having argala

> from

> > Le

> > > where Mar (Sc Antar Dasa's Lord) and HL is placed there. So

with

> > this

> > > I can see a connection between GL,SL and HL on Cp's Bhoga and

> this

> > is

> > > a very good indication to be successful in his election.

> > >

> > > So summary from here is Sc-Cn-Ar is a potentially good for his

> > success.

> > >

> > > D-10:-

> > > =====

> > >

> > > The native will be running the following D-10 Narayana Dasa:-

> > >

> > > Narayana Dasa of D-10 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

> > >

> > > Cp MD: 2004-07-05 (9:00:36) - 2008-07-05 (8:17:24)

> > > Ar AD: 2004-07-05 (9:00:36) - 2004-11-04 (2:57:00)

> > > Sg PD: 2004-10-24 (23:27:18) - 2004-11-04 (2:57:00)

> > >

> > > Cp Maha Dasa which is 7th from D-10 Lagna and its Paaka is Ar

and

> > its

> > > Bhoga is also Ar. Antar Dasa Ar is 10th from D-10 Lagna and 4th

> from

> > > Cp Maha Dasa. Its Paaka is placed in Cp ( maha dasa sign) along

> with

> > > Jup who is 6th and 9th lord ). Cp is being aspected by AL from

> Ta.

> > Its

> > > Bhoga D-10 Lagna itself and being aspected by HL from Aq. D-10

> Lagna

> > > have A10, A3 and A11 too.

> > >

> > > Now let us see the Sg Pratynar Dasa. Sg is 6th house from D-10

> and

> > it

> > > is 12th from Maha Dasa and 9th from Ar Antar Dasa. Sg has D-10

> Lagna

> > > Lord moon, 2nd lord Sun and 3rd and 11th lord Venus along with

GL

> > and

> > > Gulika.

> > > Sg's Paaka is Cp which is nothing but Maha Dasa itself and its

> Bhoga

> > > is Aq which has HL and A6 and A4 in it. This Aq is aspecting Ar

> > where

> > > its own lord Sat is placed, also aspecting Li where SL is

placed

> and

> > > lastly aspecting the D-10 Lagna too.

> > > So this is a very good combination too.

> > >

> > > Bush-3:-

> > > =======

> > >

> > > Padanaathaamsa Dasa:-

> > > =====================

> > > Here I am taking the Padanaathaamsa Dasa and will try to analyse

> > > whether there are any indication for his success.

> > >

> > > Padanaathaamsa Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi

dasa):

> > >

> > > Li MD: 1998-07-05 (22:05:24) - 2007-07-06 (2:28:12)

> > > Ar AD: 2004-07-05 (9:00:36) - 2005-04-05 (7:22:30)

> > > Cp PD: 2004-10-27 (12:19:43) - 2004-11-19 (8:11:33)

> > >

> > > Ar Antar Dasa which is 6th from AL and its paaka is Le which is

> 10th

> > > from AL. AL's lord Mars is placed in Le which is nothing but

the

> > Ar's

> > > paaka lagna and HL is also placed there. You will also notice

> that

> > HL.

> > > This Mars is aspecting AL and GL too.

> > >

> > > Now Cp Pratyantar Dasa is 3rd from AL and its Paaka is D-1

Lagna

> and

> > > this is placed in 9th from AL itself. You will also notice that

Sc

> > > where AL is placed is aspecting Cp ( Pratyantar Dasa), Ar

(Antar

> > Dasa)

> > > and Cn (D-1 lagna along with SL) by Rasi Drishti, which is

> > connecting

> > > all the dasa and GL and SL too.

> > > So this is also indicating a good time ahead.

> > >

> > > Bush-4:-

> > > =======

> > >

> > > Let me take the Tithi Pravesha to verify the above indications

and

> > > close my analysis with this.

> > >

> > > Annual T.P:-

> > > ===========

> > > June 25, 2004

> > > Time: 20:52:13

> > > Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT)

> > > Place: 72 W 55' 43", 41 N 18' 29"

> > > New Haven, Connecticut, USA

> > >

> > > Here the Hora Lord is Merc and he is 7th and 10th lord placed

in

> 7th

> > > house which is its own house along with 9th lord Sun and 2nd

and

> 3rd

> > > lord Sat, so that is good. Merc is aspecting lagna too. Gulika

and

> > > Mandi are placed in Pi and HL and Moon are placed in vi are

> > aspecting

> > > Lagna and Hora Lord too. Jup is aspecting Lagna by Graha

Drishti.

> > >

> > > Lagna is placed in 6/8 with the Natal Lagna which is not a very

> > good indication.

> > >

> > > Vaara Lord is Venus (Vakra), who is 6th and 11th lord placed in

> its

> > > own house in Ta.

> > >

> > > Monthly T.P:-

> > > ===========

> > > October 20, 2004

> > > Time: 23:20:18

> > > Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT)

> > > Place: 72 W 55' 43", 41 N 18' 29"

> > > New Haven, Connecticut, USA

> > >

> > > Here the Hora Lord is Sat and he is 7th and 8th lord placed in

> > Lagna,

> > > so that is good. Moon and Sat has Parivartana hence Moon

behaves

> > like

> > > as if it is in itw own house in Lagna too. This combination is

> being

> > > aspected by GL and HL from Aq by Rasi Drishti. Sat is aspecting

> 10th

> > > house where SL, AL and Rahu are placed.

> > >

> > > Lagna is Cn which is same as the Natal Lagna which is very good

> > indication.

> > >

> > > Vaara Lord is Merc, who is 3rd and 12th Lord Placed in 4th

house

> > with

> > > 2nd lord Sun and 5th co-lord Ketu.

> > >

> > > Now looking at the Tithi Astottari Dasa:

> > >

> > > Tithi Ashtottari Dasa of Janma tithi (useful especially in Tithi

> > > Pravesha charts):

> > >

> > > Maha Dasas:

> > >

> > > Rah: 2004-10-18 (17:27:26) - 2004-10-21 (18:08:25)

> > > Ven: 2004-10-21 (18:08:25) - 2004-10-27 (9:10:32)

>

> === message truncated ===

>

> India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.

October 21, 2004

Please reconsider ur predictions , Mr. Kerry winning - his exalted saturn (

Navanayaka Raja for the 2004) in varnada lagna aspects mercury in sree lagna, a

big boost and boon to him.Also consider Mer's shyshtyamsa placement .

Dhananjayan.nameisego <nameisego > wrote:

Dear Friends,As promised , self is posting part II of series in US Presiden's

election , as seen thro' HP THEORY R4 position.Guru Ramadasaji has posted a

rejoinder to his prediction based on R10 position also known as BRL position.In

order to demonstrate versatility of predicting same thing based on Rahu's

position, this attemt is made using R4 or YBL position of Rahu.JOHN KERRYAs

posted earlier, many different birth timings of Johnkerry are there. I proposed

that I will discuss Vrischik Lagna of John Kerry using R4 position (YBL) of

Rahu.John KerryARIES..........YBLTAURUS.........Moon,